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In a report for the Daily News, Adam 
Rubin writes, “The Mets are signaling they intend to shop Luis Castillo this offseason, even if it means eating some contract.”
…well, jeeez, i would hope so…
…i think it’s becoming more and more clear that the Mets will have to pick up the option on Carlos Delgado for 2008 (a net cost of between $8 million and $12 million for the one year), meaning Daniel Murphy and Nick Evans will not get a crack at first base next season…the idea of murphy at second base is most intriguing to me…that said, it will be hard to ignore Orlando Hudson, who will be a free agent at the end of this season, and who has seemed like a perfect fit for a long time now – assuming castillo can be moved…
…for what it’s worth, earlier in the season, before the injuries, i recall some buzz that suggested the Cubs had interest in castillo and Aaron Heilman…
Rubin also writes about today’s series against the Phillies, as well as Jose Reyes and September’s past.
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I can’t picture Murphy at 2B… not exactly a slick moving type pf player … of course, i hope he can do it.
bro, i watched murphy play 2B at binghamton this year. he was stellar…great arm, went deep into the hole, great range, and turned slick DPs. believe it. i SAW it!
Murphy has a decent arm, and average range. He is very good at hanging in to turn the DP. I know because I saw it! Really, he could be an average 2B. Let’s not overvalue his skills.
We really have no clue, that’s why he is playing winter ball. He commited 5 errors in 14 games in AA. That really does not mean anything but the fact that he still has something to prove.
But he JUST moved into the position as well. I expect some errors for now that’ll lessen as time goes on. Now if he keeps making them after a month or so then we have a problem.
Exactly, that was not the point of my post. I am just saying that he has not proved that he can or can’t play the position yet. Hopefully this winter we will have an idea.
All he has to be is average (at second) if he keeps hitting like he has.
Good to hear. Forget Hudson - Murphy should be our man. Even if his defense wasn’t stellar, I’d sacrifice that for his hitting.
Right - what you said.
Because he’s a much better hitter than Hudson. And has so much more experience. And won gold gloves. No, let’s not even look at Hudson…
trying to trade Castillo? even if it means eating some $$???
1. You think someone will take 3/$24 of Castillo?!?!? the Mets will need to eat tons of $$
2. They wanna trade their worst starter at the position they have the most depth? also shocking
3. Next post gonna say something along the lines of “Mets would like to sign Sabathia to a cheap contract next year”? or “Mets hope Orlando Hudson will play for free next year”?
The blog post refers to an article that posits proposition # 1 in your reply, and I for one would giggle like a school girl in the Mets manage to dump Homerun Heilman and Slappy.
During the offseason the Astros had offered Castillo a 3 year deal. Rather than going higher with the $$ Omar decided to go to 4 years. Maybe they’d still be interested in him? Kaz Matsui is supposed to be their 2B now but he can’t stay on the field (damn those anal fissures!)
I would think that if the Mets were willing to eat a lot of the salary then someone would take a flier on him for the remaining 3 years. I mean the annual dollar amount of the contract is only $6mil. I’m sure someone would take him if they only had to pay him aroudn $4mil a year.
Why would they? Realistically, he’s probably as good as the #2 guy each team has on their depth chart. Which is probably a up and coming, or a journey man minor leaguer. Either of who get paid $500k tops. Why would any team be happy paying Castillo $4m per year?
I wouldn’t put him on my team at $2m per year, unless ofcourse all my other options were injured…
Wouldn’t the contract be more like 3/$18 since we’ve already paid for 1 year of $6 million dollar slappy.
Yes. That’s what I thought I said. Take a flier on him for the remaining 3 years. If the Mets kick in $6million then the team who gets him only has to pay 3 years/12 million, which is $4mill a year.
Luis Castillo (with the Mets sending 6-8M) plus a B prospect could possibly land you Rickie Weeks, who is having a down year but is still talented.
No chance!
Um you do know that the Mets actually paid Castillo this year, so not as if a team seeking a 2B has to give back the Money the Mets laid out this year.
He has 3/$18M left and despite the vitriol he has received he can play when healthy, I still do not believe he had his knees taken care of and consequently he has put stress on his hip.
Betlran had the same procedure Castillo needed on one knee done to both, you can’t tell me that the recovering time for one is a miracle and the other a long painful disaster. I do not believe he got knifed.
As for him being the worst starter, he still has better overall production than Easley and A Reyes and Schnieder I believe.
He was a scapegoat for the terrible start the same way Delgado was, and yet fans never learn that what they perceive as clear doom can change and quickly.
By the way the Mets were NEVER going to be able to deal Mota and lo and behold…
Deal that dumps both Heilman and Castillo? That is too good to be true…
I kinda like that this news was leaked. Now both these players know their job is on the line in regards to being employed by the Mets. If they dont keep performing they’re gone but if they play real well down the stretch maybe they make it a hard decision on the front office (i think they’re gone, but I’m open to a little performance-incentive-based decision)
send slappy castillo to an over 35 slow pitch softball league
Slappy would probably need to be traded for a similarly bad contract…Carlos Silva comes to mind.
I think that would be OK actually.
or…not…
how do you figure? If the mets are willing to eat salary, they would practically trade him for nothing
If another team is goign to take on a 2b who MIGHT be useful for lesser than his contract, then..thats the deal!
exactly…cant get rid of him unless we take on $$…like the released Estrada who the Mets had to pay to never play to get rid of the one worse resigning of Omars tenure
Yes but they still saved money in the long run. Castillo is owed 18 million over the next 3. If you can cut that in half by sending cash or taking on a bad contract then it can get done.
Examples like Silva and Mora.
So the American League?
Castillo should be gone…but trading away that contract even if we pay 50% of it..still wont be easy. He appears close to being done. Who would want him even for 3 years and $9M total??
Not too many teams I expect would
I think it’s rather unfair to call his injury plagued 2008 ‘done’, and there is still 7 or so weeks of baseball left for him to show that. As much as fans want him gone, trading your best 2B is only worthwhile if you get something in return. If Murphy can then play second? fine, but otherwise, it hurts the team.
Right. Like you said if murphy can figure out 2b then great but otherwise what are our other options inhouse…castillo is more solid all around than easily and argenis. Our only other option would be to try to get odog but that putting all our eggs in one basket kinda thing.
Does Argenis Reyes not figure into the math here?
I know he’s not a hitting machine, at least not regularly, but his defense at 2B seems to be at least as good as Castillo’s, and probaby better. And maybe his bat hasn’t been great so far, but I think he’s at least got a good deal of upside potential, whereas Castillo probably does not.
A. Reyes hasn’t been able to hit at any level in the minors and he’s about to turn 26. I don’t think there’s much, if any, upside to him offensively. And IMO he’s to much of an offensive liability to play full time. Unless they really strengthen the line-up some other way next year.
Hudson is intriguing, but he is 30 this season and is coming off a couple solid (but not spectacular) seasons and is probably going to demand something around what Castillo got if not more. I’d much rather test the waters with giving someone like Murphy at shot a 2nd.
I’ve been a fan of Hudson too, and think he’d be a perfect fit here. With that golden glove of his, I can’t imagine the magic that would happen around the 2B bag with Reyes in the mix as well. He’d also fit very well in the 2 or 7 hole.
I’m not sure if it was baiting, but he had also expressed interest in coming to Queens in the past.
Hudson is a good option, with his excellent glove and solid hitting. Rickie Weeks from Milwaukee could also be had in a trade, so he ought to be considered as well.
I’d bring in one of those two (Hudson should command about 8M, Weeks will cost a decent prospect) and let Evans and Murphy platoon in left.
Comical, what Hudson has on Castillo is SLG% he usually gives back to Castillo in OBP% when both are healthy they are excellent fielders and btw people want to consider repacing a guy they think was signed to a bad deal with a guy who has had two serious wrist injuries to the same wrist in consecutive seasons.
HONESTLY!!
And wants more than double what the other is paid in years and money. Talk about a bad contract.
Hudson is rumored to be seeking Utley type money. LOL. No thanks. His bat is just not that good.
I think the O’s would be interested in Castillo. They will trade Roberts to someone this offseason and Castillo would be a nice replacement. Something like we take Mora and his 9 million owed for Castillo. Thus the O’s would be getting Castillo for 9 million for 3 years and the prospects for Roberts.
Silva would be an ideal bad contract for bad contract trade. if the Mariners would be willing to pay the difference in the contracts it would be perfect. even if they didn’t, its easier to bury a pitcher then a second basemen.
We need another starter anyway
Santana
Pelfrey
Maine (Hurt, who know what we will get next year)
Neise (?????)
Pedro (Free Agent)
Perez (Free Agent)
The only problem is that his production could be replaced by a guy like Lowe for cheaper and the same amount of years. You would be better off just sending him some place for a dump or for a role player like Mora in my opinion.
In this market we can probably get a better pitcher for a similar contract.
You should consider Neise the 6th or 7th starter next year.
1 Santana
2&3 Pelfrey & Maine.
they need 2 free agents this winter (Ollie could be 1)
Figueroa, Knight, Vargas Stokes fill the 7th & 8th in line
btw, Neise & Holt are the same age, (almost 22).
Holt should skip St Lucie & go straight to AA in 09