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Note: Reyes and his September Struggles
By Matthew Cerrone - Sep 9, 2008 9:20 am

As Bart Hubbuch points out in the New York Post, Jose Reyes is hitting just .120 in 25 at bats during September.

Reyes hit .205 in September last season, which, according to Hubbuch, ‘was a primary reason’ for last year’s ‘Collapse.’

The good news for Reyes: the Mets are 4–2 in September, despite taking just one of three from the Phillies.

Last week, in the Journal News, Josh Thomson wrote a report about Reyes’s new workout routine, in an effort to prevent another ‘September slump.’

40 Responses to “Note: Reyes and his September Struggles”

  1. DjDeF says:

    The thing that concerns me about Reyes is he is popping out a lot in this September. It was the same thing as last year he kept popping up. It seems like he is trying to jack the ball out. Maybe he sees the end of the season and wants to pump up his power numbers. Someone has to sit him and down and tell him hit the top of the ball. Hit it on the ground

    • Danny says:

      Hitting the top of the ball? Really?

      • Hit The Weights Zeile says:

        He did pop up alot last september but I dont think its a matter of trying to hit HRs and was simply the effects of being fatigued last year causing him to drop his back shoulder. I dont think reyes is as tired this year due to the days off he got combined with fewer attempted SBs. 25 ABs is too small of a sample size to start saying “here we go again”.

        • DjDeF says:

          He did hit a shot in the first game of the series that Howard made a good play on but other then that it looks like he is flailing and popping up a lot more then usual. He has gone through slumps this season where has popped up a bunch I am just concerned that this could steamroll as it did last year.

      • DjDeF says:

        Any hitting coach will tell you to try and hit the top half of the ball especially for a guy like Jose Reyes who has speed.

        • Danny says:

          Not really. If you get to pick a part of the ball to hit, you pick the middle.

        • therealsince86 says:

          Right, thus at this point he is prob. trying to hit the middle of the ball and is poping it up. Thus if he were to try and hit the top of the ball he would most likely start hitting line drives.

  2. Danny says:

    Making a judgment about Reyes after 25 ABs is so smart.

  3. irishchris87 says:

    I’ll give him another week before I get worried. It’s been 6 games. EVERYONE goes through slumps.

    If he’s not hitting better by the end of the week (cmon it’s the Braves and Nats) then I’ll be worried.

  4. Prismo says:

    Reyes has really been scaring me of late. He needs to relax and just hit the ball hard and on the ground. Obviously easier said than done, otherwise I’d be in the majors…

    On a side-note, anyone think Piazza might want to become a hitting coach sometime in the future? ;)

    • ags412 says:

      Piazza was a great hitter, but would be a terrible hitting coach. His approach to hitting was just togo with his natural ability. He never looked at films, he didn’t break down his stance, or where he keeps his hands or wrists, etc. He just got in the box, saw the ball, and hit the ball.

      This worked for him because he is an all-time great hitter. But as a hitting coach, you need to be able to work with people who don’t have the talent to just get in the box and hit, and Piazza has never appraoched it that way.

  5. Danny says:

    Bart Hubbuch is the same idiot that tried to blow up the Manuel fertilizer comments.

    But hey, let’s give him a bunch of credibility.

    • shea_guevara says:

      Also, it’s the NY Post, so strike five right off the bat.

      • I have been reading Bart Hubbuch’s columns all season. I don’t recall seeing him write for the Post last season (covering the Mets anyway). Without checking him out on Wikipedia, I would say he has Philly or Yankee roots. His writing style is always postured in a negative tone for the Mets.

        For example, he will talk about a good win the night before, then follow it up with a comment about the September 2007 collapse. This has been going on all season. Halfway through the season, I started reading the columns before reading who wrote it (as some days he doesn’t have an article). It is amazing how I was able to pick his articles with almost 100% accuracy.

        The guy is a Mets hater and it’s time for the NY Post to get to the bottom of it. I don’t want a homer, but I certainly don’t want a Philly or a Yankee covering my team.

  6. Dirtysanchez says:

    Reyes and Wright have been in a mini slump as of late. They both seem to be trying to slam a hr or pulling the ball. I hope they can work out of it because we are going to need them before the end. I have hope and i know they will get out of it. Thank god for gado to pick up the slack in the meantime.

    • Danny says:

      Guys aren’t trying to hit HRs every time they slump.

      • Dirtysanchez says:

        yea they pop up

        • Danny says:

          Every time someone pops up they aren’t trying to hit a HR.

        • Dirtysanchez says:

          and im sure your right..but sometimes they are…and i never said that EVERYTIME they go up there they are trying to hit a hr…

        • Danny says:

          I actually agree that Wright is trying to pull the ball too much.

          I think he’s gotten into a funk where he’s cheating to try and catch the fastball. And so that’s why he’s pulling out. He’s guessing too much up there in big spots and not trusting his pitch recognition. Keith has it right when he says that David has become a “slider speed” kind of guy.

          With Reyes, the problem when gets out of whack is usually his balance. He jumps at the ball a bit. He just needs to calm his body down and trust his hand speed, which is awesome. He’ll get it right.

        • Dirtysanchez says:

          agree 100%.

  7. teufelshuffle86 says:

    He needs to put together good ABs. I saw a couple in the Philly series where he was down on three pitches, swinging at balls in the dirt and popping up. It’s a simple case of not being patient and not being ready at the plate. He needs to forget about the bluffed bunts and all that garbage and just concentrate on getting hits and getting on base. His impatience kills him at the plate sometimes and is the primary reason for his slump.

  8. Mets Fan In Philly says:

    Way too small a sample size to worry yet. If it’s still like this in a week, and the Mets are struggling, then we can worry.

  9. shea_guevara says:

    Reyes had a horrible slump last September, but this idea that he was the ‘primary reason’ for the Mets’ collapse is ludicrous. The reason the Mets collapsed is because none of their pitchers–starters or relievers–could get anybody out.

    The Mets offense averaged 5.61 runs per game last September–virtually the same as the vaunted Phillies’ offense (who scored 1 run less that month). But they gave up just as many runs–5.67 per game, to be exact. You give up more runs than you score and guess what? You lose.

    Unless I missed something and Reyes was an ineffective 8th inning setup guy or a fifth starter, you can’t put the blame for last year’s collapse on his shoulders.

    • Danny says:

      Thank you.

    • DjDeF says:

      Totally agree here. I just don’t want to see him struggle. I can only imagine how many more runs they could have averaged has Reyes not slumped last September.

      BTW someone mentioned Piazza as hitting coach why doesn’t Keith Hernandez become a hitting coach. He seems to pick up on the different things that players are doing wrong almost immediately. He would be a great hitting coach. My only concern is he may get bored and want weeks off at a time.

      • Nightlife says:

        I think your last sentence answered why Keith isn’t/doesn’t want to become a hitting coach.

  10. brendanakathebza says:

    I’m a little more concerned with David at the moment. His swing just does not look right. Anyone happen to have his September LOB numbers?

  11. zen says:

    6 games is too early to be concerned. this is baseball…that’s like 10 minutes. though the jacket could have fixed zambrano since the start of september

  12. DK says:

    I am not worried about reyes, Fri night Ryan Coward took away an extra base hit from him and then sunday Dobbs took away another potential extra base hit…

    Wright is more concerning to me at this point..

  13. tug45 says:

    While Reyes clearly struggled last Sept, the real primary reason for the collapse was poor pitching, not Reyes (Hubbach is clueless as usual). With the exception of only a few games, the Mets put lots of runs on the board in the final 17 (8 losses in w/ 4 or more runs scored; 5 losses w/ 6 or more). Reyes is a convenient & unfair scapegoat for last year.

    That said I’m a little uneasy with the ABs Reyes & Wright are giving us right now, but i don’t think it’s connected to Sept pressure.

  14. ToastyJoe says:

    “The good news for Reyes: the Mets are 4–2 in September, despite taking just one of three from the Phillies.”

    I would have changed that sentence to:

    “The good news for Reyes – Bart Hubbach is an idiot.”

  15. SovereignRonnie says:

    The answer is so obvious: hire Lou Brown. “Every time you hit the ball in the air, Jose, you owe me 20 pushups.”

  16. richmurg says:

    It is concerning the start he has had to September because it immediately brings up thoughts of last year. Let’s see what he can do over the next 2 series to break out of it.

  17. mrBill aka DWright says:

    LVP like Delgado

  18. mrBill aka DWright says:

    AND Wright with his short throws to first base EVERY TIME!

    • Wrighton92 says:

      Umm…No.
      Wright has been playing the best defense of everyone on this team. Don’t start with THAT.