Comments on: Buzz: Tazawa Eyes MLB http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/11/buzz-tazawa-eyes-mlb/ Latest Mets News, Links, Rumors and Opinion Fri, 04 Feb 2011 21:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: kidfromqueens http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/11/buzz-tazawa-eyes-mlb/#comment-326046 kidfromqueens Fri, 12 Sep 2008 04:59:29 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=18550#comment-326046 Yea, in retrospect, my post seems a little harsh in tone. I'm just tired of people saying, every time that a Japanese player comes on the market, that we should sign them because of Dice-K or we shouldn't becasue of Komiyama (who, by the way was 36 when we signed him, cost us only 500,000 dollars and was never able to cut it as a starter in Japan after he went back there, either) as if everyone that comes over from Japan has an equal chance of success or failure.... Yea, in retrospect, my post seems a little harsh in tone. I’m just tired of people saying, every time that a Japanese player comes on the market, that we should sign them because of Dice-K or we shouldn’t becasue of Komiyama (who, by the way was 36 when we signed him, cost us only 500,000 dollars and was never able to cut it as a starter in Japan after he went back there, either) as if everyone that comes over from Japan has an equal chance of success or failure….

]]> By: L.E.S.metfan http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/11/buzz-tazawa-eyes-mlb/#comment-326044 L.E.S.metfan Fri, 12 Sep 2008 04:44:55 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=18550#comment-326044 Wow Kid, You sure told us! Wow Kid, You sure told us!

]]> By: Deadpanwalking http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/11/buzz-tazawa-eyes-mlb/#comment-326039 Deadpanwalking Fri, 12 Sep 2008 03:45:55 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=18550#comment-326039 He's sworn up and down that he'll stay in Japan but you and I both know how that goes. He's the main draw over there right now. His era is ridiculous, under 2.00 for the last two years. He's like a Japanese Dwight Gooden. He’s sworn up and down that he’ll stay in Japan but you and I both know how that goes. He’s the main draw over there right now. His era is ridiculous, under 2.00 for the last two years. He’s like a Japanese Dwight Gooden.

]]> By: kidfromqueens http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/11/buzz-tazawa-eyes-mlb/#comment-326034 kidfromqueens Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:40:40 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=18550#comment-326034 So, you realize that that's generally considered an ethnic slur, right? So, you realize that that’s generally considered an ethnic slur, right?

]]> By: kidfromqueens http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/11/buzz-tazawa-eyes-mlb/#comment-326033 kidfromqueens Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:38:42 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=18550#comment-326033 It amazes me how so many fans consider every player that comes over from Japan to be of the same background- there seems to be a general treatment of Japanese baseball as a proving ground whose biggest stars comprise the group of people who come over to the US- and this simply isn't true. Some that come over, like Dice-K, are established Japanese stars, but many aren't. I can't even count how many times I heard people talking about Shinjo as an example of what a Japanese offensive star could do in the majors, when, in fact, he was a very marginal player in Japan- his stats were, actually, generally better here than they were there. Similarly, I've heard announcers describe So Taguchi as a "former Japanese star" who came over to make it in the majors, but again, he wasn't even close to being a star there- his stats have actually been better, if anything, here, and that's with his being in his mid-thirties. Some players come over as accomplished stars and others don't, so lumping expectations for all of them together makes as much sense as doing so based on any other national origin- does anyone really say that they do or don't want to sign someone playing outside of the US based solely on the fact that they're Dominican, Mexican, or American? Tazawa is 22, older than the vast majority of draftees, and has been playing independent league baseball (which also means no posting fee). This isn't about getting a Japanese star, this is about getting someone who hasn't even been picked up by an NPL team for their affiliated minor league team yet, and would have been years ago if he was thought much of by Japanese scouts. He might develop into a better pitcher or he might not, but this isn't about getting a Dice-K or an Igawa, it's the equivalent of signing a 22-year old from the St. Paul Saints, the Bridgeport Bluefish, or any other independent minor league team and should be treated as such. It amazes me how so many fans consider every player that comes over from Japan to be of the same background- there seems to be a general treatment of Japanese baseball as a proving ground whose biggest stars comprise the group of people who come over to the US- and this simply isn’t true. Some that come over, like Dice-K, are established Japanese stars, but many aren’t. I can’t even count how many times I heard people talking about Shinjo as an example of what a Japanese offensive star could do in the majors, when, in fact, he was a very marginal player in Japan- his stats were, actually, generally better here than they were there. Similarly, I’ve heard announcers describe So Taguchi as a “former Japanese star” who came over to make it in the majors, but again, he wasn’t even close to being a star there- his stats have actually been better, if anything, here, and that’s with his being in his mid-thirties. Some players come over as accomplished stars and others don’t, so lumping expectations for all of them together makes as much sense as doing so based on any other national origin- does anyone really say that they do or don’t want to sign someone playing outside of the US based solely on the fact that they’re Dominican, Mexican, or American?

Tazawa is 22, older than the vast majority of draftees, and has been playing independent league baseball (which also means no posting fee). This isn’t about getting a Japanese star, this is about getting someone who hasn’t even been picked up by an NPL team for their affiliated minor league team yet, and would have been years ago if he was thought much of by Japanese scouts. He might develop into a better pitcher or he might not, but this isn’t about getting a Dice-K or an Igawa, it’s the equivalent of signing a 22-year old from the St. Paul Saints, the Bridgeport Bluefish, or any other independent minor league team and should be treated as such.

]]> By: The Slider http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/11/buzz-tazawa-eyes-mlb/#comment-326006 The Slider Fri, 12 Sep 2008 00:32:13 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=18550#comment-326006 Sign him to minor league contract and see if he can add depth to the bullpen. (I'm not that impressed.) Sign him to minor league contract and see if he can add depth to the bullpen. (I’m not that impressed.)

]]> By: aaronweil http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/11/buzz-tazawa-eyes-mlb/#comment-325991 aaronweil Thu, 11 Sep 2008 23:14:14 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=18550#comment-325991 oh my god i loved shioshi shinjo, honestly one of my favorite mets oh my god i loved shioshi shinjo, honestly one of my favorite mets

]]> By: aaronweil http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/11/buzz-tazawa-eyes-mlb/#comment-325990 aaronweil Thu, 11 Sep 2008 23:12:01 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=18550#comment-325990 i dont know about this remember our last japanese allstar? i dont know about this
remember our last japanese allstar?

]]> By: danlx13 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/11/buzz-tazawa-eyes-mlb/#comment-325982 danlx13 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:46:22 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=18550#comment-325982 dont take the chance unless he is very cheap...he may be like igawa or dice k but u never know.. id rather spend that money and get a starter that is already known.. it is an extremely risky move that the mets shouldnt make johan, sheets/burnett, pelf, maine, (open) krod cmon thats perfect.. its only two big moves they would need to make and the team next yr would be amazing. i would prefer burnett over sheets..i can see burnett being dirty in the national league. dont take the chance unless he is very cheap…he may be like igawa or dice k but u never know.. id rather spend that money and get a starter that is already known.. it is an extremely risky move that the mets shouldnt make

johan, sheets/burnett, pelf, maine, (open)
krod

cmon thats perfect.. its only two big moves they would need to make and the team next yr would be amazing.

i would prefer burnett over sheets..i can see burnett being dirty in the national league.

]]> By: the_other_matt http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/11/buzz-tazawa-eyes-mlb/#comment-325969 the_other_matt Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:53:33 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=18550#comment-325969 Yawn........ Yawn……..

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