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According to Ken Davidoff in Newsday, citing 
‘one person informed of the team’s thinking,’ do not expect the Mets to sign Francisco Rodriguez when he becomes a free agent this off-season.
Davidoff also reports that the Mets are also likely to pass on Rockies reliever Brian Fuentes, who will be a free agent as well, “Instead, they intend to be creative with their closer role.”
Yesterday, John Maine told reporters that he would be open to being the team’s closer next season, if he were asked, though he 
would prefer to remain a starting pitcher.
However, according to the Daily News and the Star-Ledger, GM Omar Minaya later told reporters that he’s not considering Maine for closer in 2009.
Nevertheless, if Maine is put in to such a role this season, he joked with reporters yesterday saying he will use Posse on Broadway by Sir Mix-A-Lot as his theme song.
according to everyone in the media last year we also had no shot at Johan Santana
Having no shot at someone and not wanting to sign someone are two different things.
Perhaps mrose was referring more to the media’s propensity to get a story wrong. After all, Davidoff’s source on this isn’t even a Mets official. It’s someone “informed of the team’s thinking.” An agent? A player? The bat boy?
thanks FAHIII , that was my point…
I will not believe the mets will “not sign” him until he signs with another team
Damn, they should at least make him an offer. There will be only one year in which his and Wagner’s contracts overlap. Big deal.
I hope this is just a smokescreen so as to keep the bidding down OR Davidoff is just wrong … like when Klaptrap said last winter that the Mets would be pursing A-Rod hard. He was totally wrong and supposedly had Mets officials as his source.
Um, say what?
This doesn’t make a lick of sense.
Closers aren’t something you get “creative” with unless you are a small market no-frills team.
Or, Omar.
Or you have at least one full season of guaranteed sellouts because of the opening of a new ballpark.
So what? Because of that they should get creative with a closer? I don’t see how they’re at all related. If anything, the guaranteed sellouts would mean more money, which would mean the ability to go get a closer even with Billy on the payroll.
That’s not how the Mets work under Wilpon ownership. If you think they would have acquired Santana without “The Collapse I” last season, you are delusional.
If they react to failure, according to you, then this year should make them want to react again with a big acquisition. Because even if they make the postseason, it’s clear the bullpen has been a disaster. 27 blown saves may be the most for a Mets team over the last 30 years or so.
No one would have come to Shea this year if they did not acquire Santana. They won’t have that problem next season at Citi Field. There is no pressure to do anything.
Whether they acquired Santana or not, droves would have come to Shea this year merely because it’s the last year.
Sure, there may have been a little less, but they would still have drawn more than in 2007. And they probably knew it going into last winter due to advance sales and such.
To think that selling seats is their only priority is wrong. As I’ve been saying to other fans in other discussions about Citi Fields’ capacity, if that were the case, they would have increased capacity in the new park as current demand greatly exceeds the new capacity.
They want to win too.
Amen! We’ve got to get a closer or a bullpen!
The Mets needs to be smart…not ‘creative’…sign Fuentes.
Creative? Isn’t that what we have now with a closer by proxy?
Exactly.
And how has your creative thinking worked out THIS year, Omar?
I bet K-Rod would have gotten Casey Kotchman, Gregor BLanco, and Martin Prado out. In order, too.
two totally different scenarios. In the off-season and ST you can evaluate everyone in your farm and on your roster to test them out as closer. You CANT do that in mid-Sept in a pennant race. You have to be smart now but can afford to be creative in the off-season.
And I’d say he has been creative this year…(a.reyes, evans, murphy) they all helped us big time in august and hopefully the next few weeks. Unfortunately he has been forced to be creative due to his failures in the offseason (luis, no depth in OF, no proven bullepn arms)
maybe the wilpons said omar can’t spend anymore. maybe they are picking up their option on delgado and won’t have the funds to pay for a top notch reliever…especially considering they will have to ante-up to keep oliver.
They have at least about $30 million coming off the books even if they pick up Delgado’s option. That should allow them to both retain Ollie and make K-Rod a competitive offer.
They have another rotation spot to fill though. Plus I think the bullpen needs more work than just a closer.
LOL, yeah. I know you like Garland. But Niese has been impressive and Heilman can always take the fifth spot.
Johan
Ollie
Maine
Pelfrey
Niese/Hielman
They are not so short of starters for next year.
If you get a strong closer, then that puts less stress on everyone else. Maybe:
K-Rod
Ayala
Parnell
Feliciano
Sanchez
Stokes (for long man)
I’m thinking and hoping Sanchez will be stronger next year as this year is his first pitching after the injury.
problem is we dont know what the Mets buget will be for 2009.
we know it is around 130 mil this year, and we know that if they pick up Delgado’s option they will have almost 100 mil commited to 9 position players, 1 starting pitcher and 2 relief pitchers (one of whom is out for the year)
In addition they have Church, Maine, and numerous relievers up for arbitration, and Pelfrey, Joe Smith, and a few position players who are 0-3 and will make near minimum salary. They need half a pitching staff new.
I sure hope they have more than 30 mil to spend because all that will allow is bringing back Ollie and signing 1-2 veteran relievers.
I think it’s safe to a-s-sume that the Mets revenues have risen this year and will rise next year. The Luxury Tax threshold also rises by $7 million.
So, why wouldn’t next year’s budget be at least $7 million more?
A-s-suming they will raise it by at least that amount, they will have at least about $37 million extra to spend next year.
I’m not sure how it works, but because Maine and Church both missed significant chunks of the season, I don’t think they will see big raises, if any, in arbitration. And I believe Pelfrey signed a ML contract right after being drafted so he is not arb eligible.
Also, Joe Smith is NOT arb eligible this winter.
The $37 million should more than cover Ollie, K-Rod, plus either another starter (non-elite) or middle reliever.
Thats true about Pelf, he will make alot more than the minimum… but its already in the budget.
I didnt say Joe Smith was arbitration. Dauner, Heilman, and Feliciano are though. Of course they might be traded or non tendered as well.
The Mets do have some nice 0-3 players who will help them save a few bucks on the bench or as platoons.
you are making as a-s-s out of the word filter. :)
Actions speak louder than words……
So, who does that exactly leave out there if they’re not going after K-Rod or Fuentes?
Maine is always the joker… Posse on Broadway…
I always thought “Shut Em Down” by Public Enemy would be great theme music for a closer.
the Pete Rock remix of SHUT EM DOWN…the regular is a lil too slow
This is silly. So, in mid-September we are hearing declaritive statements about who the team will and will not sign in the off-season as it relates to key positional holes not only on the major league level, but also throughout the organization?
Come on.
*declarative
WHO THE HELL CARES whether the Mets go after Rodriquez when 2008 is over.
Thirteen days, thirteen games to get this crap in line.
operative word: crap
Patrick,
Because, deep down, we all know this isn’t going to be THE year.
if you really think that, then go get another team to root for
Yeah, whatever. Omar’s no dummy. He’ll get K-Rod if he can.
can someone please explain to me what ‘creative’ means when it comes to a closer? Either you have a closer or you don’t.
Creative should likely mean by trade. There really isnt any other creative options to get a closer.
They might know something from trade talks earlier this year. Such as creating a trade for Huston Street around Heilman, for instance. I dont know beyond a trade.
Going with this same cast of characters next year isnt creative, its stupid.
certainly a strange comment to say we’ll be ‘creative’ with a closer next year. sounds ominous to me. Luis Ayala is a creative option for a closer. Is he saying that whoever we send out in the 9th to pitch with a lead and slap the informal closer label on is our ‘creative’ solution to a closer? I don’t like it one bit.
creative means you evaluate all options in the off-season and ST. you look at everyone you have in the farm and on the roster and see what might work. You CANT do that in mid-sept.
creative also means trying SP out as closer. esp unproven SP who may only have a few good pitches but not enough to be an effective starter.
The red sox were creative with Papelbon, and i’d say that worked out well for them.
What did you expect them to say…? We love him, we want him? Why drive up the price?
Exactly. Regardless of their true intentions/desires, and no matter how desperate they may be for a closer, the Mets can’t make it look like they’re salivating at the mere thought of signing K-Rod.
I mean, what kind of businessman would walk into a negotiation declaring that they’re completely desperate and willing to pay any price to get what the other guy has to offer?
Exactly. It might just be a strategy for now. Why say they’re going after him and drive up the price even more?
Not only that but there are rules against talking about players currently on other teams. There’s certain things they can’t say at this point. The whole “being creative” idea is too ridiculous to be real also. I hope they know better than to think that could work with the closer role.
Might be wishful thinking, only time will tell.
Also its not like he can say “Yup were gonna sign him so no one else even try” I mean come on K-Rod is still under contract for another club.
The Mets saw that Matt posted the magic number and decided to not pursue a free agent closer in the off-season. Cause and effect, imo.
retard
I thought that was funny……..
Then again, I took it as sarcasm….which I’m sure it was.
This is so funny. Of course they are going to say that. What should they be leaking?? “The Mets will make one of the biggest offers ever to a prospective closer!”
This is one of those absolute nonsense articles. If the 2008 Mets pen has taught us a thing, it’s that the entire pen needs to be overhauled. The only definite that should be coming back next year is Joe Smith because he’s young and controllable
agreed…but unfortunately there are many nonsensical posters on this site who get worked up over this.
Too true
While I’m not advocating either way when it comes to K-Rod or Fuentes, doesn’t it seem like this bullpen shouldn’t be creative at all?
Here’s what I think, for what it’s worth: I think Tony LaRussa invented the way bullpens work right now and all the other lemmings that make up MLB fron offices followed suit.
How about reevaluating what a bullpen is and should be. Maybe it should be a closer and a handful of guys who bail out a starter who doesn’t have it or is losing it. Maybe we need to get a rotation full of people capable of going 7 or 8 innings each time out. Maybe 120 pitches should once again become the norm and 140 become the high. (I’m not talking about developing pitchers here.)
The age-old lament is there’s not enough pitching in baseball. They’ve been saying that since the days of 9 man pitching staffs on 24 teams. Now that we have 30 teams and 12 and 13 man staffs, it’s more true. So maybe we get back to the point where starters are expected to go deep into games unless they really “don’t have it” that day, and the bullpen needs only a handful of talent.
I know, the modern pitcher isn’t used to going that deep with that many pitches. But that’s because they’ve not really been trained to or asked to. Stretch ‘em out and let ‘em pitch their games. And let Tony LaRussa use his bullpen and pick his nose in any way he sees fit.
So maybe we get back to the point where starters are expected to go deep into games unless they really “don’t have it” that day
Then they better raise the mound again. It’s easier to pitch with the higher mound,. a fact many of the dingbat proponents of the higher pitch counts fail to acknowledge.
As for a staff that goes 7 or 8 innings every start, I don’t think a single one like that exists in baseball today.
How about starting first with a better bullpen? For the amount of their payroll, the Mets bullpen lags dismally behind the rest of the NL.
They don’t exist today, but they did exist and they existed well after they lowered the mound.
You can’t get a better bullpen so easily mostly because there’s not enough quality pitching to fill the roughly 360 spots that are out there. Let’s get the strongest 5 starters we can, a strong closer and maybe a set up guy, and fill the rest with healthy bodies.
The 70s and 80s had plenty of starters throwing 7 and 8 innings and 130 pitches. It’s a mindset, not an inability these days.
Careers were probably shorter then too. Not to mention paychecks being a lot smaller.
As for a better bullpen, if most of the other clubs in the NL can find quality talent for their pens, why can’t the Mets. The excuse that there’s not enough quality talent to go around won’t fly when Lindstrom is closing for the Marlins and they signed Show instead of Bradford.
Of course they will always look for the 5 best starters within their budget — but are you advocating going for quantity instead of quality? I’d rather have quality. For example, you know you can get innings out of a Livan Herhandez, but is it worth it?
As for the limitation in pitch counts and innings pitched,, it’s not all just a mindset. It’s based on data from the Tommy John doctor and analysis by Rick Peterson. Injuries rise the more you stress the arms.
BTW, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Lincecum comes up with arm problems by the middle of next season OR has a very off year in 2009 due to the stress his arm is undergoing now.
lincecum’s father would argue you over that.
he is confidant his son will never be on the DL in his career.
And to be honest, I may not agree with his DL prediction, but I do believe in his mechanics and how it doesn’t put added stress on his arm and actually may prolong effectiveness…if he has any injuries it’ll be with his leg’s, knees, or hips, because they are critical to his delivery.
and while it may look like a violent delivery, its quite smooth and fluid.
starz, I hope Lincecum’s dad is right, as it would be a shame if they ruined a young pitcher’s career when they aren’t even in a pennant race.
His innings are already more than the recommended amount for young pitchers. Both his pitch counts and innings would be a concern to most organizations.
I gotcha…i was talking more about his mechanics…wasn’t really aware about the IP. makes sense.
i still can’t believe he never ice’s his arm after games.
his dad claims “ice is good for two things…injuries and drinks.”
With the removal of amphetamines from the game we are seeing bullpens all over baseball being less and less effetive. At some point the players will adapt, or GM’s will adapt and find a different way to construct a pen.
But if this goes on for a few more years then baseball will have to do something to allow the starters to be more effective. They are afterall the best pitchers in the game, so allowing them to pitch more would be good for the game as a whole.
Teams may have to find more 2 inning relievers, and think about using relievers 60 times for 90 IP, rather than 80 times for 80 IP. Or raise the mound and let starters complete more games.
I understand the logic in announcing you’re intention to not sign K-Rod. By admitting it now, you’d surely be driving up the cost this Winter.
And, between K-Rod and Fuentes I’d go with K-Rod on the facts that a) he’s simply better, flat out and b) Fuentes is already 33 yrs old, compared to 26 (K-Rod).
All that being said, if we really do not go after K-Rod and sign him this off season, I’m going to be one p*ssed off fan. The man is 2nd best in history, only to Mo and he’s only 26. Any time we had our Closer(s) come into the game this year, at any point, a Win or a Hold was not guarenteed. In fact, it was at best 50%. With a guy like K-Rod you know that when he enters the game, it’s Game Over…
We need that. We have to have that. Without it, you get what we have now. Blown leads in the 9th inning and a pennant race that will come down to the wire.
Sign K-Rod.
I don’t want K-Rod. He would require a longer contract and I’m not too crazy about that. How is a guy who has seen his fastball slow down this year a good deal. It won’t get any faster, only slower. That means he projects as a setup man in a year or two and that is a lot of money for a setup man. Remember, you don’t sign a guy for what he has done in the past, you sign him for what he can do in the future.
Also, I think it ismore imperative next year to get some starting pitching as we only know of two pitchers who are a guarantee on our starting staff. I do think, however that Niese may be part of the options. I really think the Mets may go after CC and Ollie.
Second point, the big leagues are notorious for bringing up young guys as closers. Usually, guys are converted to closers who were starting pitchers. Gossage, Eckersley, Smoltz were all good examples. We may be better off trying to trade for a closer or a young guy who projects as a closer. I don’t think trying to find a closer from in your system is bad and I don’t think trying to turn a starting pitcher into a closer is a bad idea.
I cannot see paying krod more money than mo makes when the track rec with pitchers esp relievers lately has been to get hurt and mets are burned w/pedro and tying that much money on a closer when you could use it to get a possible starter or bat that is needed is a priority. krod is entertaining but could he handle ny and the fickle met fans? No on krod, find another solution. No on maine, we need him healthy and starting to give us a staff of Johan, Pelfrey, Maine, Neise and maybe op.
We have enough negative energy right now and there just piling on!! Seriously, The Mets have enough to worry about at this point and when the season is over then they need to discuss K-Rod.
Damn. Not more of this Maine as closer crap.
Losing Perez and Pedro leaves 3 starters. Switching Maine to closer would leave 2.
Niese isn’t ready for a full season. He needs to spend half the year in AAA and the other half in NY as a callup, like Pelf last year.
Since there’s no one else, that means we would need to sign 3 FA’s. Not happening. Especially when they need to sign a closer.
Plus, who’s playing LF? I’d like to see Tatis, but didn’t Jerry say he likes Tatis off the bench? And no, F-Mart isn’t doing it. He likely needs a year or two before being ready to start.
Santana, Pelf, Perez, Maine, FA.
There is absolutely no reason for Tatis to be the opening day LF.
So who? There’s a certain guy in Colorado who might get traded this winter.
I would agree, but there aren’t a lot of other options, especially since we’re going to have to break the bank to fill pitching holes. It’s either Tatis, or someone in house, maybe Murphy/Evans depending on what happens with second base.
Also I don’t think we’ll be getting Matt Holliday unless we’re offering someone like Maine.
I’ll give them Heilman and Castillo and someone like Carp.
Yup, if they bring back Delgado (and why not?) then they can deal with LF and 2B internally. And Omar can concentrate on pitching alone.
however
If Murphy is the regular 2B then a LF platoon of Tatis and Chavez isnt so hot.
Evans as a backup LF/1B is probably wasting his talent. They should probably find someone else to fill that role and let Evans play 1B everyday in AAA.
The better options might be to suffer through another year of Castillo (oy) with Murphy and Evans in LF.
Maybe Tatis can take Easley’s role as backup 2B/3B and take much of Castillo’s playing time without forcing Omar to waste time exploring trade routes for 2B. Then keep A. Reyes as a backup SS/2B/PR
…but this year isnt over yet, right? LGM!
I would think it would take a lot more to get Holliday. When rumors were circling around before the deadline most rumors said they wanted a young controllable pitcher back.
I’m sure Pagan will be in the mix for LF.
What happend to Bobby Thigpen after his trillion save season again?
Surely the Mets need a closer and an improved bullpen, my dog knows that. Does not mean you have to buy the used car to go for a cross country drive.
Thigpen is no comparison to K-Rod.
Thigpen was a starter in the minors, had one magical year and then fizzled out. He wasnt overused by todays standards. He was not a stikeout pitcher and he wasnt a ground ball pitcher. He just wasnt very good…
K-Rod’s development as a starter was halted much earlier leaving him years in the minors to adjust to being a reliever. And he has a 6 year track record of similar use and similar success. He is still a strike out pitcher, and has shown the ability to be a 50%+ ground ball pitcher at the same time.
No comparison at all imo.
Its like worrying that your Honda will break down because thier IRL engines keep having problems.
creative? c-r-e-a-t-i-v-e?
omar/wilpons better go after k-rod.
anyone realize that this season isnt over and we have a legit shot at the playoffs and we are concerning ourselves with next season already. c’mon!
everyone in here knows the current situation of the mets right now. Its just a topic for converstion for next year. Not much more that can be said about the current situation than what has already been hashed and rehashed.
Anyone having problem with the Seven Pack Post-Season Ticket Opportunity? I got through at 12:00pm and there wasn’t anywhere to click to get tickets.
Not sure if we should trust the “sources.” I’m not a huge fan of signing K-Rod (the Angels have pushed him to the limit), but to come out and say not even going to entertain the idea is ludicrous
Fine, we will be arguing this once the season is over on September 28…
The calls for something big will get louder as we let the postseason slip slide away once again…
No matter what happens this year it is clear that for 2 years now the bullpen has been the Mets achilles heel. Last year Omar overhauled the pen by bringing in Matt Wise and taking a flyer on Brian Stokes. By overhaul I mean he did next to nothing. I realize wagner’s injury is a major part of the problem but it is clear that the pen as it stands now is killing this team. As ronnie said last night there are only so many time you can rely on your offense (2nd in the NL in runs scored) to bale you out. Unfortunately games like last night will happen, when your offense tanks, the main culprit has still been the pen. That said this season is not over, but if the pen doesn’t get an overhaul this upcoming season Minaya should ask Willie where he can vacation come April.
Knowing this why would you close the door on two relievers before the offseason even starts, completely bizzare. It could be a smokescreen, but if not ,it is ridiculous.
Knowing omar most likely its a smokescreen. He is not going to tip his hand this early in the game..hopefully it will lower the asking price for krod by elminating a (big market)front runner for his services. I am totally talking out my you know what on my speculation but to say that he will be creative has me worried….
About the Magic number:
Somebody probably already did this, but this has just been bothering me over the past day. Specifically Matt’s comment “The Majority wanted it posted”. While this statement is correct it is not the whole story:
Here are the numbers again quickly
44%: 0
41%: 10
8%: 15
8%: 20
Doing some quick math we can determin the average number people wanted it posted:
.44(0)+.41(10)=.08(15)+.08(20)=6.9
So using logic the number should not have been posted until 7, this way no one could argue with Matt because he would be doing exactly what the people wanted.
That equation should actually read:
.44(0)+.41(10)+.08(15)+.08(20)=6.9
Posse on Broadway sounds like a rip off of Paul Revere. I think our next closer should come out to “All Apologies” by Nirvana because we all know the game’ll get blown.
or whatever song that “I’m sorry….. so sorry” jingle comes from.
great, so what are we doing, saving our money for those areas of the team that need help more than the bullpen?
I hear ya’. Outside of signing some starting pitching, where the heck else is the money going?
Wow — only one comment about the m*gic n*mber in this thread so far (two counting mine, sorry).
Just such a breath of fresh air! Even if it is regarding a very stupid prediction about the off season which should not be anyone’s focus when we have some very important games in front of us…
Seems to me that we are currently trying that CREATIVE approach, and it isn’t working out to well.
agreed
I have a creative solution.
Fire Omar and hire someone who’s willing to go after the players this team needs.
Omar should be fired on general principles.
Something stinks here. With literally every single player the Mets seem to consider, Barry Bonds and Jose Reyes for Alex Rios included, Minaya has either said “we won’t rule him/it out” (which generally means they don’t get the guy) or just nothing at all. This is the first time anyone has actually said “no.” Davidoff has been chronically wrong before (he put put A-Rod on the Mets, for example, and said it was “almost certain” and used the same language about Joe Blanton and Huston Street); I’m beginning to wonder if his Mets source is all that valid.
magic # is 13
Its like groundhog day.
Everyday they play a game, everyday the number stays the same…
Being creative is just what the team could use. As much as I’ve criticized Omar, he seems to be learning on the job. Castillo seems to be at death’s door as far as the team goes, so he’s willing to admit his mistakes He didn’t panic and trade away a prospect for a rental reliever. (A lot of silly people will say that recent events have proven that to be a mistake. That is why they are silly. The best thing about 2008 so far–with the exception of the coming of age of Mike Pelfrey–is the emergence of Murphy, and he wasn’t even regarded as a significant prospect. Teams were asking for Niese and FMart!)
And now he’s reluctant to part with money and draft picks for quick fix, expensive, and highly overrated free agents. It’s almost as though he seems to know how overrated the closer title is and how meaningless the save statistic is. These are all good signs.
I wouldnt mind K ROD if the Mets were committing to spending a ton of money this offseason in order to look at the other holes in the team. However thats just not feasible. John Maine in the closer role is a creative solution as long as they get two starters in the mix in the offseason (replacing Pedro and Maine). Thats a lot of money.
forget Perez?
i wrote out a whole analysis on this and my comment got gobbled up AGAIN. Im way too fustrated to write it all out again so hopefully this shows up. I agree that omar did a heck of a job keeping the kids. I disagree with you last paragraph(20+ blown saves for the bullpen this year alone) and i have not heard omar publicly admit the castillo signing was a faliure….matt or someone really needs to get on top of this comment disappearing thing….my post followed all the rules.
I feel like they must add new random banned words every day.
Oh, you’re absolutely right that it’s important to have an ace reliever just as it’s important to have an ace starter. That’s not what I’m saying.
I’m saying that the role of “closer” is artificial. You should use your relievers in situations that leverage their effectiveness best. The idea that there is one guy who is only allowed to come into the game if it’s the 9th inning or later and you have a 1-3 run lead is ludicrous to me. Use him when you need him; use him in the 7th if there are 2 on with no outs if he’s your best option at that time. Use him for 2 innings if necessary. And most important–have a lot of good bullpen arms available to back him up and set him up.
As for Omar not publicly dissing Castillo, he wouldn’t do that. (Hell, I can’t stand Castillo; and even I wouldn’t do that.) But if Murphy starts taking ground balls at 2nd over the winter it will be tantamount to an acknowledgment that the Luis Castillo signing was a failure.
(This is the best way to go, as Murphy, if he can play 2nd, would be a tremendous bat for the position, comparable in value to Jose Reyes–left field, not so much. Castillo, as the most ineffective player, has to be the odd man out here.)
man idk if matt does not want me to resond to YOUR particular comments but i AGAIN wrote a explination and im not going to bother typing it out again.
always copy your post before submitting it…just in case you have to, well, look for the hidden banned word.
If anyone blames Matt for the mets collapse of last year, or for there small fade right now they ARE OUT OF THEIR MINDS. The fact that matt even has to ask fans wether he can or cannot post a magic number is INSANE. It is a stat, it has no bearing on the mets, GET OVER IT. here are some predictions you can go crazy over.
The mets will win the division
The mets will win the NL championship
The mets will win the world series
The mets will picth a no hitter tonite.
GROW UP.
Lucky for us, you spelled “tonight” wrong, or else you might have jinxed the no hitter.
:-)
Ton”ite\, n. [Cf.L. tonare to thunder.] An explosive compound; a preparation of gun cotton.
Good. Spend the money on starting pitching and/or other bullpen help.
k-rod, omar. k-rod.
you know what i’m saying?
Give the front office a break. There is absolutely no reason to show their hand in how they intend to shore up the bullpen for next season when this season isn’t over yet.
Just because they seem to have “no interest” in Fuentes or K-Rod now doesn’t mean they won’t have interest when it’s time to sign them.
Relax, we already have a season to finish now.
Exactly, no team has ever had any “interest” in a FA to be during a pennant race.
Last year on the Santana deal:
However, the Twins insist a deal is ‘virtually impossible,’ as long as Jose Reyes is not part of the deal, adds Newsday.
Joined this one way too late but why on earth would the Mets come out right now and say “Yes we plan on signing Krod for his current contract demands” It’s called posturing. You say we are content with our in house options (none) trying to get him for a little cheaper knowing you have a fall back in guys like Fuentes or trading for Street. I also expect us to be “nearing” a deal for Street right up until we sign Krod.
I love how these “sources” love to stir the pot too…like they know everything. It sounds like a writer just looking for copy, can’t he talk about what the Mets need to do this year, with 12 games to go as opposed to wasting our time on what the Mets won’t do next year, jeez….
“creative with their closer role”? really? isnt this what the Mets are doing now? dear God! Mets Collapse part 2 coming soon to a theater near you. look out for part 3 next year! sigh, how shameful it is to be a Mets fan right now. Omar is on the hot seat, and WILL BE FIRED if the Mets miss the playoffs.
oh yea, I read somewhere else that this “creative” style will be signing Luis Ayala next year to be the full-time closer until Wags comes back in late September next year. I’m pretty sure the Mets will be out of contention around that time. Thanks Omar!, Appreciate it! (sarcasm)
First, Davidoff is always wrong.
Second, if this is true, it’s not surprising. The Mets have a policy of not talking about players on other teams. All you heard from Omar when asked about Santana was “I won’t talk about players on other teams”. He’d conclude saying something like “But we’ll look at anyone”.
The Mets would be stupid to say they’re not signing K-Rod in September. While you may not agree with his moves, Omar is not this stupid.
I think Omar likes having a bad bullpen.