|
|
|
I believe the Mets can win the NL East. This is not to say that they are guaranteed to win, just because you and I believe – that, of course, is up to the team on the field.
However, I do believe the Mets have the talent and ability to outplay and outlast the Phillies for the division crown.
The question is: Will that talent be realized, rise to the challenge and succeed.
Yesterday, I wrote how I hope to see this team walk calmly, clear eyed and smart towards the pressure in this pennant race, and not cower and hide like they have done during season’s past.
If the Mets give 100 percent, rise to the challenge, play their best and fail, I will be disappointed, but I’ll also be proud of their effort.
Hopefully, last night was the start of such an effort, which I believe can push this team to October.
 |
 |
 |
RSS 2.0 Both comments and pings are currently closed.
David Wright needs to chill out.
He needs to see Nieves at bat against Feliciano last night and remember that you are allowed to drive in runs without hitting the ball off or over the wall.
he also just needs to loosen up in general. he was wound up so tightly last night that he couldn’t throw the ball to first in the ninth inning.
He needs to get laid…
oh man, i hope he doesn’t have a problem getting laid. i mean, i didn’t when i was 25 and i was no david wright.
Maybe Heilman will do the honors? I mean, he’s getting f**ked in the a$$ by every hitter in the league already!
Repeatedly.
Give him some Valium before the game.
nooo, we don’t need another Doc Gooden.
Reyes could give him some of his wine.
caba-reyes is my $hit
What’s the magic number?
You guys are absolutely hilarious. The guy makes 1 error in 37 games and now it’s expected that he NEVER makes an error and his AB’s are effecting his defense. Players make errors, Wright has always had some trouble throwing but has been on an incredible defensive streak that HAD to end sometime.
Sorry, but that play was just ugly. Everybody makes errors, but that play doesn’t happen if David’s loose.
Even Keith Hernandez said to him the play looked like he was moping from his prior at bat.
he just looks tight, that’s all i’m saying. i’m not saying he’s not allowed to make errors.
Has he had to make any other throws this week?
What is his September batting average and OPS this season?
how do you “cower and hide” during a baseball game? does that mean the players refuse to come out of the dugout? or they won’t get close enough to the plate when they’re hitting? i’m confused.
LOL, me too. I have yet to see a baseball team cower and hide.
Oh, hi, you missed 2007?
Forget the Mets, I just love Matt’s Dillon Panthers reference.
oh hi, i didn’t know “cower and hide” was synonymous with “the bullpen was unable to get a high school hitter out in 2007″
The Phillies are riding a 6 game winning streak. The Mets finally got off the schneid and survived a 1-4 streak and yet only percentage points separate the 2 teams. Do the Phillies remain hot or are they due for a letdown? Are the Mets due for one final winning streak?
Both teams are extremely streaky. The Mets have recently had a down swing, and the Phillies are at their peak. Yet the Mets still control their own destiny with the likelyhood that those streaks are going to reverse soon. It’s over by Wednesday.
Streakiest team of all is Milwaukee… I recall them on two occasions reeling off like 9 stright wins and on 2 occasions losing about 7 straight as well…
they’re facing Harden tonight…hopefully he pitches something like 130 pitches and wins and then is tired for his next start…i’m hopeful aren’t I?
2 PM today… We will know by tonight if we are still up 1 in the loss column or if we are up 2 over Milwaukee in the loss column…
One hopes that Lou pushes Harden, anticipating that it will be his last start of the regular season – if he wins today the Cubs magic number drops to 2, and they likely clinch over the weekend. Then the Cubs can push his last start back or skip it altogether.
Okay, they’re probably not going to skip it, but if they want him on track for the NLDS then their best bet is to push him back all the way to 9/26 or 9/27 – at Wrigley, vs. Milwaukee.
Wishful thinking.
Or maybe he will be on a 50-60 pitch count or something like that against us. That would be OK too.
First the METS gave up being in control of there own destiny when they lost first place. The only way we can get back in first is if the Marlins, Nats and Braves beat the Phillies and we win. To be honest I woul dlove nothing mopre than to see the METS win, but, I dont think they can. A) we have no closer, this gives the other team the advantage because they know we have a bad pull pen that is held together with duct tape and band aids. B) We have Pedro in our rotation and he only good for a few innings at best, then we are back to paoint a. C) Once the other team knocks out our startrer we are back to point a. D) Injuries, We do not have our a-team on the field and never will. E) The Phillies have an easy schedule and we play four against the Cubbies.F) These are the METS we are talking about here. Look at these teams we have faced and cant beat? We have to win every series and we lost two in a row. LETS GO METS !!!!!
Not true. The Phillies can’t win the division without the Mets losing a game. vice versa is also true, but still holds, it’s up to the Mets.
Phillies are headed into Florida, for a red-hot Marlins team that still thinks they are in it. We NEED to bury this Braves team…this weekend is our best chance to gain ground.
When you think about it the Braves showed up for 2 innings at Shea and walked away with 2 wins. That team needs to be swept.
lets get it done vs the nats first, though.
I just think the problem (regarding Cerrone’s post) is that fans take too much from the interviews and postgame comments of players after a loss. What if the pen completely blew the game last night, instead of almost blowing it? Then everyone would have been ridiculous for having “no heart” and all that nonsense. If fans didn’t equate success with effort like they do, the impulsive reactions wouldn’t be so common. But they do, so there tends to be a “they’re not trying hard enough” reaction when they lose, even if it’s just not the case.
Bravo, Bravo you win the Oscar.
LOL. If the Marlins sweep the Phillies they WILL be in it.
Good, the more the merrier.
I’d welcome the Marlins sweeping the Phillies, anyone who would not is nuts.
Today has to happen before three tomorrows though.
Let’s ride Johan tonight.. Phils are due for a freakin loss… and just put all this choke talk behind us…
Maybe we get Maine back next week.. Niese and Parnell Chip in… and god forbid Church actually starts hitting…
Let’s get er done boys….
Big win last night…and you said it, lets do it again with Johan on the mound and find a “nice little rhythm”
Church starting to hit would be HUGE.
I think if Wright were to start hitting, that would be even more huge. Church’s offensive absence has been filled with the freakishly consistent Dan..erm I mean Daniel Murphy. I would also like to see Heilman and Sanchez permenantly banned from pitching in games decided by 10 runs or less.
Don’t worry, Wright will go 16 for 18 in these next 2 games, which will be blowouts, and then go 0 for 12 in his next 3 games, all one run losses.
I’ve been on this blog for a while already and stil ldon’t understand the “(Comments wont nest below this level)” thing. I thought that meant that comments literally could not be attached to that thread, meaning if you hit reply to a post with tha written ont he bottom, it wouldn’t show up below it. What’s the deal?
It just means that threads can only go so deep. You won’t be able to directly reply to this comment, or yours. This is the deepest level. It’s only up from here..just like the Mets!
Has anyone here looked at Wright’s September numbers for this season? He is batting over .300 with a .926 OPS and you guys want him to start hitting?
Numbers are somewhat decieving. Have you watched the games? Every time he comes up with RISP, he either hits into a DP, strikes out trying to hit a 5-run HR, or comes up empty with 2 outs. It’s not THAT he is hitting, its WHEN he is hitting, and right now he’s just out of it mentally.
Oh my bad I did not realize that only production with RISP late count. That’s my fault. I thought that all the runs counted and a HR in the 1st inning was a good thing. My bad.
silly real!
Who said a HR in the 1st inning wasn’t a good thing? I think you’re overlooking the importance of late inning at bats in 1 run games with the BASES LOADED. Yep, those at bats are just as important as 1st inning at bats with 2 out and nobody on. lol
I get your point, and there’s truth to it, but I think real’s point is that he has indeed been contributing meaningfully, despite how it’s looked. he’s not dying at the plate.
The guy has a BA of .522 in the last 7 days with an OPS of 1.680. Yup the guy has clearly lost it and needs to be benched. You guys only remember the bad AB’s and forget every thing good. Do you know how significant it is that a player is hitting .522 when his team is struggling?
Where did you find that statistic? According to Baseball Reference, he is batting .292 his last 7 days, with 8 Ks in 24 ABs. No wonder you don’t think he’s struggling, you’re getting your stats from a faulty source! And btw, nobody (at least I’m not) is saying bench him…we would just like to see David Wright be David Wright and not Mark McGwire.
I don’t only remember the bad ones, but I do remember them. Perception defines these guys (unfortunately), and like closers, the spotlight’s def on HI right now. I’m not saying it’s right, I’m just saying it is.
That’s what I’m saying – people trying to justify D-Wright’s performance by pointing to his up-to-date season numbers, or his numbers in the last 12 games.
Cerrone hit it on the head when he posted that stat saying, “Wright is hitting .567 in his last 8 games. In the 10 before that, he hit .128. In the 9 before that, he hit .439. In the 14 before that, he hit .241.” (those numbers were made up to be used as examples)
It’s the A-rod syndrome, number slook great at season’s end but when looking back all you can remember is the constant double play with the bases loaded, the weak foul pop out with the tying run on 3rd, etc. The big at bats.
Well said as usual, Matt.
I know I’ll be on the edge of my seat, believing.
See you folks there.
I agree, yet the Phillies still have to lose, which they havnt yet. Not looking forward to seeing the Cubbies either.
Me either, but the Cubs could clinch over the weekend, so maybe they ease up by the time we play them.
True but the Mets will still likely be facing Harden and Zambrano and Depster at Shea… They will be tough to handle…
And they will clinch this weekend too, I believe. I think they win tonight and they would love nothing more than to clinch at home this weekend vs. the Cardinals.
But yeah, Z and Dempster will be tough, but they will probably be handled VERY cautiously.
Oh yeah, 5 innings, 90 pitches most likely… lou will want to get his guys work…
lets remember the mets typically play better against better teams..
The Mets can tie the Phils with a win tonite. If that happens, forget teh scoreboard watching. Both teams will control their own fate. However, we have the added benefit of winning the season series, so if the Brewers end up falling out, and the Mets and Phils are tied, the NL East title is awarded to the Mets, while the Wild Card goes to the Phils.
The Mets ARE tied with the Phils… LOSS COLUMN is allll that matters and the Mets and Phillies are even…
No. Both teams play tonight, so at the very best the Mets can overtake first place if they win and the Phils lose. The Mets already have their fate in their hands. However the schedules that both teams have is heavily in favor of the Phils.
edited to add: The Mets already have their fate in their hands. If they win every game remaining, they are guaranteed a tie.
We’re not going to win every game remaining. However, we need to win the vast majority of them. The only reason we are in this situation is because we lost 4 out of 6 to two of the WORST teams in baseball. All we can hope for is that the Marlins slow the Phils down (which they usually do) and the Nats keep swinging hot sticks when they close out the season in Philly (which they never do).
No schedule analysis and comparisons. It means nothing when the Phillies sweep a contender like Milwaukee and the Mets at best salvage a 4 game split with the lowly Nats. Forget about schedule watching, the Mets could sweep Chicago next week and I wouldn’t be surprised. Win games, that’s it. WIN GAMES. Win Games. Just win.
Couldn’t agree more. By winning, the pressure is then shifted to Philly.
agreed matt. they are in a position now to hang on, make a run, and take this thing. last night we all worried and cringed…but they hung in there, and that’s what he have to do, whenever they got a run, we got something back it seemed, we need to keep that up. never die, it’s never over.
phillies have to be due for a loss, and we have the chance to take this game and springboard from here with johan on the mound tonight.
they can do this, this isn’t last year, this is a different year, this is ours for the taking, essentially, only half game back in the division and half game up in wild card, it’s a 12 game season…here we go!
LET’S GO METS
The way things are going it looks like the Mets and Phillies are going to the playoffs … they can not play in round one no matter what because of MLB stupid rule of the wild card team can not play the division winner of there division. How great would it be Mets Phillies NLCS … that would be something else to watch?
Remember if we tie with the Phillies for the East and the wild card, we win the division because of the head to head record.
really? thats good to know
Then what was the coin flip for? There are no head-to-heads in baseball, as far as I know. They will have a one game playoff in Philadelphia if the teams happen to be tied at the end of the regular season.
I stand corrected. You are right. If both teams are in the post season then there is no playoff game, and we win the division. But I still dont want that to happen. I wanna win it outright.
Also, I actually think that is a good rule. It usually makes the LCS’s more interesting and intense when division rivals are playing in a long series as opposed to a short one.
That would be a great series to watch. I think for home games the Mets should distribute sedatives at the turnstiles to help ensure we all make it out of the stadium alive.
Talk about stoking a rivalry…
I’ll say this over and over: I would lovelovelove to face the phils in the NLCS.
We CAN NOT win if Jerry uses Heilman in any meaningful situation
Heilman’s record since the all star break
W L 3-5
ERA 7.23
games 26
IP 23
H 28
earned runs 19
bb 22
this is no small sample. I honestly can’t remember any pitcher being this bad with so many appearances .
Heilman’s Met career is effectively over…
Heilman has a bum left left knee that he’s been pitching with all season. Don’t be so quick to dismiss him for next season – even possibly as a starter.
But, that said, I do agree with you regarding this season. I think both he and Sanchez should be shelved.
I also think Manuel should give Parnell and Al Reyes more of a shot.
Heilman in any respect has worn out his welcome with the Mets… He’s come up small this season after being given every opportunity…
They will strongly seek to move him…
Package him, Castillo, and maybe even Duaner Sanchez for a decent arm and a couple of prospects. I still can believe we signed Casti-no to a 4-year deal. What a dumb move. I said 2 years, and even that wouldn’t have been smart.
Wow, you might even throw in Duaner Sanchez? Generous!
i would age greatly if that were the case and develop a stomach ulcer
i would love it
“If the Mets give 100 percent, rise to the challenge, play their best and fail, I will be disappointed, but I’ll also be proud of their effort.”
How do you, Matt Cerrone – blogger, know if they are giving 100%? So if they cough up a 3.5 lead and don’t make the playoffs you will be proud of their effort, cause they gave 100%…
What is this little league? What a stupid and pointless entry.
Golly, I found it to be well written and it expressed my feelings exactly!
Funny how people see things so different…some are Phil fans and some are Mets fans.
And some are folks like Matt Cerrone who do something cool with his life, and some are folks like us, who appreciate Matt’s efforts, and some are impotent silly folks like guigsy who come on here and make stupid, pointless criticism.
Matt, you deserve sainthood for the drivel you put up with daily!!
Nonsense. No MET fan will be happy with the effort if they don’t make the playoffs. Farce.
Sainthood is a little much… lets not forget that this guy is makin bank on this website now with all its recognition… he was “making a living on it” before it was endorsed by SNY and sponsored by Geico…yes I appreciate it and enjoy reading it, but I don’t exactly feel bad for him…
Its hard for me to say that I would be proud of their effort if they lose… It just gives it too much of a little league feeling, they arent playing for a participation award here… I understand its harsh, but as fans we demand perfection, and when we dont get it, we bitch about it, thats why they get paid the big bucks.
And as for giving 100%… who knows? i mean you could argue that they gave 100% last year too (probably to no avail) but I wouldn’t believe it. I don’t think any met fan can say they were proud of their efforts in 2007
Tonight I’m a Braves fan
Anybody else finding it tough to root for Atlanta? Not that there’s any question who needs to win, but when I find myself saying things like, “Come on, now, Chipper, let’s see some pop,” I immediately feel like I have to go take a shower.
No not really. As much as I used to hate Atlanta, I hate Philly more now. And it helps that I’ve always had a TON of respect for Chipper.
It would not shock me for the Phillies to go 9-1 the rest of the way… They have that feel of a team on a mission and everything is going their way…
The Mets are in much more of a survival mode right now… Given the bullpen and the schedule (the touoghes among the Phils and Brewers) I really do not have faith in them doing it. I’ll root as hard as all hell for it but I just can’t see it… Sadly, one week ago I felt they could not be caught… Same thing as last year… Unbelieveable…
Like I said yesterday, to win the East, Mets must go 8-3 as of today… To win the Wild Card, I think they must go 6-5 the rest of the way… A win tonight will help both causes…
If the Phils go 9-1 the rest of the way, coupled with their current 6-0 run, that would make them 15-1 to end the season. Not an easy task.
Well, when we had 17 left and Philly had 15 left I said we needed to go 10-7 to win the division… that meant Philly had to go 13-2…
Right now to match that we have to go 8-3 and Philly has to go 7-2… Philly has a better chance to go 7-2 than we do to go 8-3…
This of course takes into account a tie, where we would be division chammpions if both teams are in the postseason and are tied…
I love the survivor graphic because I feel like I barely survive each night. Tonight its time for our ace to shine again. I really think the Phillies are due to have a few bad losses within this last week and a half. That bullpen has pitched over its head the entire season and is Lidge really gonna have a perfect season in save situations? He barely escaped on Tuesday night.
The Phils have a HUGE edge on paper tonight with Hamels pitching against Jo Jo Reyes.
Hopefully the Fish beat them over the weekend.
Once again the Braves screw us as the beat us twice and lay down tot he Phils
My feelings exactly… Hampton pitching tonight versus PHI, Jo Jo Reyes faces us tomorrow…
According to mlb.com Jo-Jo Reyes goes tonight with Hampton tomorrow against us
According to Yahoo, Mike Hampton is scheduled to go for ATL tonight…
That would be a good thing. Usually a battered starter does better next time out. See Odalis Perez and John Lannan. Considering we hit JoJo and did not hit Hampton, I’d rather face Hampton in a rematch because JoJo Reyes would probably pitch a shutout next time.
Gee, i’m sure it has nothing at all to do with the Phillies. Sheesh. Hmmm…the Braves lost two days ago and really laid down…they came back twice in the game and had bases loaded in the bottom of the ninth…Yep, they laid down alright.
Sorry if you took it wrong. I did not mean to imply that they didn’t try just that they lost to the Phils (who are playing very well) yet beat us as they ALWAYS seem to do.
Everyone will give 100%, and everyone has been giving 100%. I’ve seen some boneheadedness, but I haven’t seen any dogging. These guys want it. Hopefully they go get it.
They want it but they are WAY too tight in going after it…
could be, but it’s not lack of effort.
but losing this division again after leading by 4 in the loss column with 17 to play is unacceptable for a team that has a high payroll and believes they can win the World Series…
They are NOT facing the World beaters of the NL right now…
well worldbeaters or not, they’re playing their a$$es off against us, and our guys are doing the same. If we lose, it’ll be because we didn’t have the pitching talent to finish, not that they didn’t give it their best shot.
Do the clowns coming out of the pen look like they are giving it their all to you?
It’s not always about giving it your all. It’s more about being focused, yet relaxed, and coming up with timely hits at the plate (cough* Wright *cough). Also, I think our bullsh!t…I mean bullpen needs to start pitching inside to hitters. Anybody notice how many hits are going right back up the box? That’s because they are sitting middle-away and GETTING it every single pitch. It’s time to pitch like they have a pair.
The pen is not coming in and throwing strikes either… Oh those walks come back to kill you all the time…
This is the time for the relievers to step and make the playoff roster (if they make it)… I’d say, so far, we have Smith, Ayala, Schoeneweis and Feliciano
yes, those clowns in the bullpen look like they’re giving it their all, but at the moment are not succeeding. They’re average pitchers. Each of their career lines say so. They don’t domintate because they’re not able to, not because they don’t try. If you honestly think any one of those guys goes out there thinking “ah screw it, I’m only gonna throw meatballs today”, you’re nuts.
Mmm….. meatballs.
Matt with all due respect, you’re out of your head. The Phillies have a much easier schedule than the Mets do. They finish up with the Braves and Nats at home while we finish up with probably the best team in the NL for 4 games, and the Marlins who absolutely love to spoil anything having to do with the Mets. Not to mention the Mets go into their own personal house of horrors Turner Field this weekend. This team has no shot.
I actually think the mets playing better teams will HELP them.
The mets tend to play down to their competition. I don’t fear aces or lineups. I fear no name scrubino pitchers and AAA batters.
Yeah, maybe so. But they have a huge series this weekend in the house of horrors against a weak team. How is that going to help them?
They swept the Braves in the house of horrors last year in a huge September series. As well as the year before.
I agree. They play better against the good teams. How many no name pitchers have eaten up the Mets this year. Alot.
that’s the spirit!
Uh, Cerrone? Clear eyes, full hearts, can’t lose is from Friday Night Lights. Not Survivor.
Coach Taylor would not be pleased.
You’d think we’d all have learned to to judge a September schedule like this!
First off, we all know teams playing for nothing like the Nationals are tough.
Secondly…the Marlins are on a 7-game win streak, and Philly is heading into South Florida. I have a serious feeling they are dropping 2 of 3 this weekend. Just a gut feel. The Marlins still think they are in it, so not only would they love to spoil the Phillies as much as the Mets, but they are still trying to get back in this.
By time we see them, they will be out – barring a miracle. Big advantage for us there.
The Marlins ARE very much in it… 5 back in the loss column…
Yeah, but there are 10 games left. I’m not writing them off, but they’d still have to jump Houston and 2 out of the Mets, Phillies, and Brewers. That’s life-support time.
Rockies last year proved anything is possible, but they’d need to run the table and get alot of help.
well, they’re off to a good start against houston. If they sweep tonight and take a couple from the phillies, this could get verrrry interesting (or rather even more so than it is. this is a fantastic race!)
Let’s not forget the Marlins won’t be seeing Hamels, since he is pitching tonight. I believe they get Blanton, Myers, and Moyer? Myers scares the sh!t out of me for some reason now, but the Fish absolutely KILL deadbeat nibblers like Moyer (see Pedro Martinez). However, a Phillies loss means NOTHING unless it is paired with a Mets win. In the words of the worst president in the history of mankind: Let’s Roll.
Actually those were not Bush’s words, they were Todd Beamer and Co’s. Far more an inspirational source.
True. But nobody knows that but you, lol.
Jimmy Carter said that?
hahaha. i think bush’s approval rating is a little lower than Carter’s, but I like the sense of humor.
Trust me if Carter had the media attention and had a 9-11 event then he would have had a negative rating. Good guy but……
Anyway back to baseball.
Division chances are slim at best. Only games the Phils may lose are this weekend in Florida. They will sweep all 6 games next week agst Atlanta and Washington while we get Chicago and Florida. Don’t get your hopes up folks. Focus on the wild card.
Sweep the Brewers in a 4 game series, and then sweep the Braves and Nationals next week? I understand the Phillies are hot right now, but that’s a tall order to expect them to keep sweeping everyone.
Not when it seems everything is going their way…
They swept the Nats last season last weekend of the year…
No they didn’t. They won 2 of 3. They lost game 161 when Maine pitched that 14 strikeout gem.
I remember that. He was sooo close to a no-no.
That damn backup catcher Dave Hoover hit that little squib.
I’d be surprised if they lost more than 1 game next week. They will sweep the Braves and maybe the Nats get one. Florida has a good chance to take 2 of 3 this weekend. Hopefully Hanley is not hurt too bad.
I guess it was a different team that lost 3 of 4 leading into their current 6-game win streak.
Everyone looks unbeatable when they are hot, but the Phillies are not unbeatable.
It is amazing huh? Last week the Phillies fans were ready to quit and now our fans think they are unbeatable.
Saddest thing is we’ve all forgot that these are THE PHILLIES. This is an organization that is solely founded on the principle of falling short when it matters.
Was last year a turning point? They lost 3 playoff games to Kaz Matsui! I don’t think so!
Don’t undestimate that franchise’s ability to fold. Ever.
Anyone know if the Mets and Phils end up in a tie but both teams make the playoffs because they finish with a better record than the Brewers, who gets the division title and who gets the wildcard? There won’t be a tiebreaking game since both teams will be in the playoffs
In that scenario, the Mets would get the division because of the head-to-head record.
are you quite sure about that?
Yes. If the Mets and Phils tie for the division AND wild card, Mets get the division. 100%
And if the Brewers, Mets, and Phillies all finish with identical records, then the Mets play the Phillies in a 1 game playoff. Winner get the division. Loser plays the Brewers for the wild card spot.
whomever wrote that logic should be beaten with an ugly stick, if the Mets win the division due to head to head, then the Phillies and Brewers should just square off for the wild card.
The rule is like that so a team cannot be eliminated from all postseason competition on a tiebreaker.
Yanks-Red Sox in 2005 is an example of the tiebreaker being used because both teams were already in. They finished tied and Yankes got the division on head-to-head. I think the Angels-Mariners is the only 1-game playoff for a division played in hte WC era.
Anyone realize that if Glavine had beat the Marlins last year, the Mets, Phillies, Rockies, and Padres would have all finished tied? I don’t even know how that would have worked. I’m not even sure MLB did.
I remember how crazy everyone was going over it…there were three articles a day for a week trying to keep up.
Well Tommy was the consummate pro…a staunch Union guy. He stepped in and saved everyone the trouble.
*single tear falls from eye*
theres no crying in baseball!!
oops
*grabs nuts, spits tobacco*
Devastated? No…
All I want to say is LETS GO METS!
Sign Riggins up, we need some heart
The Mets need to do exactly what they did last night, with Johan on the hill.
But exactly what they did plus not leaving any extra runners on base, or turning 1st and 3rd no out situations into two outs nobody on.
I agree with the talent in all areas except the bullpen. I can’t see how we can win the division with this pen. They are not going to all of sudden be world beaters. They are what they are. We can’t put any team away past the fifth. That will kill us.
They also had to get 4 innings from there bullpen last night … hopefully Santana, Ollie, Big Pelf, and hopefully hopefully even Pedro and Neise can get them through at least 7 and 8 innings these last 11 games and cut down not only on the number of outs the bullpen has to get but cut out some of those pitchers we don’t like seeing out there like Aarron Heilman …. Davids Wright error did not help to much lol what the hell kind of throw was that lol
HAHAHA. Pedro go 7 or 8 innings….priceless. We’re lucky to get 6 from that clown. He throws too many pitches because he falls behind hitters. Our best bet is our big 3: Santana, Pelfrey, and Perez. Niese is a toss-up, because you never know what you’re gonna get from a rookie (although his last start has me somewhat excited).
Pedro is a clown? Does it make you feel superior to trash one of the best pitchers ever?—He has worked extremely hard to return to form and is just not there yet. Shoulder surgery is not like Tommy John surgery. Pitchers do not usually come back stronger—especially if they’re in the mid 30s. He has yet to regain his trademark control…maybe everything just feels different. Not sure how that makes him a clown.
First of all, it was a joke. Do I hate the guy? No. I, too see him as one of the best pitchers of all time. But honestly, you can’t sit there and tell me you have faith in this guy to go more than 6 innings without giving up 4 or more runs. It just can’t happen. Again, I applaud him for his valiant effort to return to the top of his game, but it just isn’t going to work out for him. Best case scenario, I see him being a solid long relief guy.
Yeah, did you just use a FNL reference? Lame….
Smash Williams and Saracen are going to be pissed.
Three things currently on my mind:
#1: No BP for David Wright tonight. He needs to reset and we’ve seen results from no BP before.
#2: Should the Mets faulter and not win the NL East this year my scapegoat will still be Willie Randolph and the miserable play the first 60 some odd games under his regime. Or, it could be the Mets overall. Nonetheless, those Ls in April, May, and June are just as big as Ls in September.
#3: Batting rules going forward: 1. Take strike one. 2. Don’t strike out. 3. Drive the ball to opposite field. 4. CB, with men on, please refer to rule #1.
When the Mets have the attitude that they need to fight for it, they win.
When they instead think, it’s ok, we have the talent, the pieces will come together, they stink.
I think being 1/2 a game behind is a good thing for them right now.
I would much rather be 3.5 games up, but I see your point. But why can’t they make it easy, just this once?
that would not be mettish
I don’t disagree – and conversely let the Phillies play with the lead a little bit. They are the ones that were up 7 games in June…it shouldn’t be this close. They are not playing with house money this time around.
I think there is a direct correlation between the losing and no longer seeing Giuseppe Franco commercials.
Same here!
yes, get Giuseppe commercials back and running again … I don’t own the product, I don’t own nothing about it I just know that this product works.
What is it exactly that you wanted Omar to do? Just becasue we needed bullpen help does not mean Omar can jsut go out and make that happen. What did you want him to do give up a whole lot of young talent for Huston Street
I am sure he expected to lose Wagner, bottomline that is where the total desperation stems from.
What possible moves could he have made to address the bullpen? He got Stokes, who helped us a bunch…he got Ayala, who isn’t Wagner but he’s done a great job about 90% of the time. Who else could we have gotten without losing a big bat and/or our entire farm system? Before you criticize Omar, please remember that it was he who BUILT this team. It is because of Omar that our expectations ARE so high.
Yeah I mean I don’t get why when we need a certain position filled or another starter or relief help fans just jump on Omar and say how horrible he is just because he did not go out and get what we needed like it is that easy. Like Omar can just call up another teams GM and say hey I need a solid 8th inning RP so trade me yours and BAM just like that we got solid 8th inning guy. Hey I need a power hitting OF so hey Rockies hand over Matt Holliday … Omar has been a solid GM … he has brought in some solid free agents over the years and also has found players on the scrap heap who helped us allot over the years like Valentine (06), Endy, Easily, Tatis, Darren Oliver(06), Ollie and I am sure there are others I am missing. Every GM makes bad signings which Omar has done … but overall Omar has done a solid job in my opinion.
You can’t build if you don’t have the right chips to trade. And how is he going to BUILD a bullpen in less than a year? He can’t, because prospects take time to develop. Ever notice how many pitchers we have been drafting in the last two or three years? Right now we have guys like Holt, Niese, Parnell, Kunz, etc. who are all having success in the lower levels, but they just aren’t ready for the big time yet. Don’t worry, this bullpen will not be horrible in the next couple of years.
It is very hard to build a bullpen in the August when your closer goes down … who out there thought allot of these guys who have been solid for us in 06 and most of 07 would have horrible years. Stokes, Ayala have been good pick ups and have done well … I would like to see Al Reyes used.
it’s the same guys who think they can be an NFL coach or GM because they dominated their fantasy league. They actually believe that Omar just sits in his office every day and wonders why these guys aren’t pitching well. They believe that Omar isn’t trying and/or that he just doesn’t care. In other words, they are idiots.
Who was available before the deadline neared? Anybody worth Niese, F-Mart, AND another top prospect? Nope. And he DID have chips to trade, but he used him to get that Santana guy. Don’t blame Omar. He has done everything in his power to address the issue. And by the way, our bullpen was great in 06. It wasn’t until June/July of 07 that they started screwing things up, and given their past success, who can blame them for giving them a chance to snap out of it? When you do the math, our bullpen has been issue #1 for a little over a year now, which is NOT ample time to fix the problem. Earth to Houston: you know nothing about baseball, my friend.
Incompetence … you are right the same guy who brought Santana to Mets in the off season when everyone said it was impossible, yup Omars incompetence made us a horrible baseball team since he has taken over. Since he has taken over are team has been in the hunt every year. I guess the Mets being relevant in baseball again every year since he has been here … he had nothing to do with that at all.