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The Game:
The Mets (86-69) begin a four-game series against the National League Central champion Cubs (94-60) tonight at Shea Stadium, starting at 7:10 pm.
The Lineup:
- SS Jose Reyes
- LF Daniel Murphy
- 3B David Wright
- 1B Carlos Delgado
- CF Carlos Beltran
- RF Ryan Church
- 2B Luis Castillo
- C Brian Schneider
- P Jon Niese
The Pitchers:
LHP Jon Niese (1-0, 4.09 ERA) starts for the Mets. In his last start versus on September 13 versus the Braves, Neise pitched eight shutout innings, allowing six hits and two walks, whiles striking out seven, earning his first career victory. This is Niese’s first career start versus the Cubs.
RHP Jason Marquis (10-9, 4.38 ERA) starts for the Cubs. In 20 careers games, 13 starts, Marquis is 5-5 with a 4.45 ERA. His last start versus the Mets came on August 5, 2007, earning a loss, allowing five runs on nine hits over 5.1 IP. Marquis is 6-3 with a 3.05 in 12 road starts this season.
How To Catch It:
Tonight’s game can be seen on SNY and heard on WFAN.
The Bleachers:
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…enjoy, and as always, Let’s Go Mets…YA GOTTA BELIEVE!
IF we lose with Castillo tonight, is it fair to ask for a shake up and A. Reyes the rest of the way? Regardless of OBP, zone ratings…just look at the Wins vs the losses…
we are not getting any offensive help from any of our second basemen unless easily comes back…..therefore put in reyes because i think he is better defensively
exactly. if our 2nd baseman can’t hit he might as well be able to field. argenis at least gives you good range and a good glove.
and a 16-6 record for the team when he plays, as opposed to a sub-.500 record with castiNO
^Which means absolutely nothing…
If Easley is at all able to start this week, then do so. If not, Castillo plays, because the offensive difference outweighs the defensive difference…
there is no offensive difference…..castillo is horrendous.
I am one who actually believes that Castillo somehow brings bad results to the team.
But how can you think the same thing after saying for nearly a year the problem was basically Willie?
Willie is gone and the team got better. Do you really want me to harp on Willie? He’s gone. Reyes and Delgado got better…JUST AS I PREDICTED. Maybe give me a little credit for understanding that “chemistry” is more important than stats.
Willie was bad for the team…he’s gone. We got better. I don’t care about him anymore. I care about the METS…this team. Now, with what I observe, Castillo is an issue. Lets resolve it. Thats all I’m asking for.
I’ve been clamouring for Castillo’s exile for ages……if i have accomplished one thing this year with going on the FAN and on message boards it is to awaken fans to the fact that castillo is as much a problem for this team as anything.
The team got better?
Teams naturally go through ups and down during the season. It just might be that Jerry took over at a fortunate time, especially considering how Johan is a second half pitcher, and Pelfrey grew a lot during the year.
And if the team doesn’t make the playoffs, it will really be even more debatable how much better the team got.
You can harp on Willie all you want. I don’t care. Bash him if you want to now. It’s just that if you feel Castillo is a big reason for the team’s poor play, then it stands to reason that Willie probably wasn’t a major one.
And that’s just nonsense about Reyes getting better under Manuel. He has been playing better all year long.
The only one who got better under Manuel was Delgado. Figures you’d try to revise history.
And another thing, right before they fired Wilie, the team had been playing better, winning their previous few series.
Castillo is not THE problem he is ONE of the problems. And in the scheme of things one of the smaller ones. Lack of production from 2B hurts but not as bad as Maine, Pedro, Wagner, and the entire pen falling apart.
Reading some of these guys you would think that all the Mets need to do next year is release Castillo, trade Heilman and start Awful Reyes and we would win 106 games next season.
castillo stinks and so does a. reyes…
so much for the cubs resting players. we’ll be lucky to split this series. putting us in a nice must sweep situation against florida who will be thrilled to push us out of the playoffs. nice job mets.
let today be the start of a 7 game winning streak
7 playoff games in september. though these are even more tense because winning 4 doesn’t mean you go forward.
i don’t see a pitcher’s duel tonight. 8-6 mets
Wow, it appears Gooden will be at the ceremonies to close Shea. Look at the sidebar. Awesome.
retire #16.
it might just be for the autographs not necessarily at shea. though i’d go to that game for sure if he was finally back.
You think he’d come back to Queens that weekend only to avoid Shea? I can’t see it. That would be terrible.
I think he’ll be there.
He wasn’t at Yankee Stadium yesterday, was he? Would be nice if he shows up at Shea after having avoided the Bronx.
sweet! i wonder if he can come out of the pen?
Phils traded for Brad Lidge, signed Chad Durbin, re-signed JC Romero, signed Rudy Seanez and dealt nothing for Scott Eyre. They have ERA+s of 238, 150, 167, 120 and 218 respectively.
All of those players potentially could have been Mets. Three were free agents and Eyre was dealt for nothing so it wouldn’t have cost us a top prospect. All of them except for Seanez have a better ERA+ than every Met reliever except Wagner. And Seanez is better than all but three others.
But Minaya did all he could? How do you get outdone by the Phils GM who has significantly less money to spend???
those guys are having career years. it’s just incredibly lucky for the phillies, like the 2005 white sox who got huge years out of several relievers who have been mediocre outside that season.
not that minaya should get off blame-free, but the idea that the phillies are smart enough to know that they were putting together such a good bullpen is laughable. they’re extremely fortunate it has all come together for them. do you not think that mets fans would’ve been up in arms with a stupid contract like the one the phils gave romero? this isn’t incredibly advanced scouting the mets missed out on.
I’m not heartened by the suggestion that the Phils got lucky 5 times while our Mets got unlucky 5 times. That kind of talk is a sad excuse, nothing more.
Romero was lights out last year. Only the Phils guessed he’d be that good this year? We shell out 4 years for Luis Castillo but wouldn’t for a good bullpen arm?
Why on earth do you automatically as sume that Romero would have left Philly to come to the Mets?
I don’t.
The point is that everyone keeps making lame excuses for Minaya.
The Phils found 5 competant bullpen arms for their playoff stretch run. Each have an ERA+ over 120. Four have an ERA+ over 150, better than all but Wagner’s 179. The Phils found 5 and the Mets found none.
But I guess we didn’t want any good relievers in our bullpen.
So you completely discount what Ayala and Stokes have been for this pen?
Ayala has an ERA+ of 102 and if you think he should be your closer… well… what else can I say?
Stokes has been better (125), but still only barely exceeds Seanez’s 120.
Can you read or do you just make stuff up? Where on earth did I say I wanted Ayala as my closer? I believe Wagner was our closer?
Not to mention that it would have been hard to sign Romero after he had pitched for Philly the season before. Or the fact that Seanez was and still is terrible and Eyre would have been our 104th LHRP at the time and had about a 9.00 ERA. The only one that would have interested me at the time was of course Lidge and I wanted to trade for him the same as everyone else. However, the Astro’s way overvalued Bourn.
You’re only interested in Lidge.
I’m interested in the other 4 relievers in their bullpen who were available and are pitching better than anyone we’ve got healthy.
Again, Seanez is terrible. We could not have gotten Romero being that he clearly wanted to stay in Philly. Eyre would have seriously been our 4th LHRP and had an ERA around 9.00. Durbin would have been an ok pick up and Lidge would have been huge. What more do you want me to say?
you’re just making excuses. it’s clear minaya is a helpless idiot by not giving romero a 3 year deal and doing what most other GMs did and ignoring pieces of garbage like durbin and eyre.
Let’s go Niese shut down these overrated cubbies!!!!!!
we are so screwed…….the cubs gotta rest some of there dudes this week no??
We gotta hope their starters dont pitch more than 5 and get rested up…..
But that lineup might tee off tonight
If Niese throws a gem, is Pedro’s post-season spot in jeopardy?
(I think it should be)
If Niese gives up 3 in 6 innings then Pedro should never start for us again. In fact I would start Knight over Pedro this week if Pedro HAS to pitch.
Lets remember Mike’s battle charge.
With that said, I still believe in this team, and you should too. Yes, the bullpen is horrific and the offense is spotty late in games, but this is no time to abandon this team or be negative.
We are Mets fans, dammit! We’re not front runners. We’re a collection of hopeful believers that loves our team until the very end, regardless of how joyful or brutal the outcome.
This team needs our support and we should all give it, with no strings attached.
If you will be at the games this week, I urge you to refrain from booing and cheer this time with everything you have. You don’t need to bring anything more than your loud voice and your heart.
As the late great Tug McGraw told Mets fans in 1973, ‘Ya Gotta Believe!’
very disappointed to see crapillo and church in the lineup. should be evans and murph on the corners. church can’t hit the broad side of a barn. what a shame…
can’t have evans and murph in the same outfield, too much inexperience…..what it should be, however, is argenis reyes and endy chavez.
too many holes with Endy too. If Castillo comes out, Church stops pressing and will get better. Start there.
Why would Church stop pressing if Castillo was replaced with Reyes? If Easley was available I would completely agree. But even you have to know that Awful Reyes is an even worse hitter than Castillo. If you want to say Awful is a better defender then fine but please don’t say that Church would press more with Castillo than he would awful.
You’re right…I was hasty with my response. How about we just win so I can feel better about this team…at least for tonite.
Very dissapointed to see Cubs playing all their starers…ANY CHANCE WE SEE PARNELL TONIGHT…ANY CHANCE?
We’ll win this game… The curse has been broken. Just win.
The other night after winning 3 straight Jerry Manuel said the word Matt shouldn’t have posted…
I’m feeling good about this game. Even better tomorrow with Johan. The Cubs aren’t going to break ther backs to win this game. Let’s hope we get some help from the Brewers.
And the Phillies losing too if it’s possible
Niese will pitch well tonight. The offense woke up last night at the end… sort of. Final homestand at Shea, they’ll find a way, I can feel it.
nasty curve
niese!
soriano got struck out twice in that ab
love that hook….
yes!
The Reds win over Florida helped… Now the only way the only way the game Fri will count for them is if the Marlins picked up 2 1/2 in this series which I don’t think will happen…
Score some in the bottom of the 1st inning Mets please…
i completely agree, i was monitoring that game closely for the same reasons.
i’ll also be looking at the houston series tomorrow as one more loss for them will completely take them out ot the race and then we’ll only have milwaukee to worry about and the phills ahead of us
tight strikezone tonight, uh oh…
great inning kid!
Niese is so much better than Pedro
Much better… Yup. Even Brandon Knight is lol
good start, let’s get 6 runs in the first to make it a great start
Good job Jon…
wow…what’s with that hsbc lumberjack commercial? how was that for a bank?…
Looks like he’s doing a good job of:
1) Mixing his pitches up
2) Nasty curve
3) Keeping the ball down
4) Good spotting on the fastball
Good start, kid. Keep it up.
I WOULDNT MIND SEEING REYES TRY TO LAY A BUNT DOWN…HOW COME HE NEVER DOES THAT?
You are SO right…he could add 10–15 points to his average if he bunted regularly…I wonder this all the time too.
i can’t believe how empty shea is
story of mets season, phils lead off with 2 doubles just as reyes pops up…
didn’t soriano hurt himself doing that earlier in the year?
reyes has really gotta just get on base….
it is not a good sign when the mets don’t score a first inning run
please dont get 1 hit today…please dont get 1 hit today…please dont get 1 hit today…please dont get 1 hit today
these phillies won’t lose… 1-0. gotta win tonight with the brew crew off
typical for the braves to bend over for the Phillies!
the philles are just on fire but the braves sure could try harder. if the mets bullpen didnt bend over the braves hitters though maybe things would look different
nice dive reyes
snakebitten
Why are we just going through the motions?
Crap.
WHERE’S THE BREAKING BALL SCHNEIDER??? YOU TOOL
What is his problem… 10 straight fasballs?
You are SO right…and of course he finally calls a curve and we get a weak grounder!
ok its over. pure bs. this is how things go, doesn’t it? well its not over but the bleeding better stop here
well this game is over
With that said, I still believe in this team, and you should too. Yes, the bullpen is horrific and the offense is spotty late in games, but this is no time to abandon this team or be negative.
We are Mets fans, dammit! We’re not front runners. We’re a collection of hopeful believers that loves our team until the very end, regardless of how joyful or brutal the outcome.
This team needs our support and we should all give it, with no strings attached.
If you will be at the games this week, I urge you to refrain from booing and cheer this time with everything you have. You don’t need to bring anything more than your loud voice and your heart.
As the late great Tug McGraw told Mets fans in 1973, ‘Ya Gotta Believe!’
Excellent TRS, and I am right there with you.
Can’t take credit for it at all. It was posted by Mike earlier today. I have just decided to repost it everytime a tool makes a post.
Well, if that is your strategy, you may wear our your fingers and your keyboard!
Copy and paste buddy. But I will save it for the real tools.
I want to believe but they’re not giving us a good reason to believe right now… Some runs may prove otherwise. A Delgado walk is a good start… Let’s go Mets
The Mets have to hit tonight. Niese will do alright but he won’t do perfect. If the Mets are losing like 2-0 in the sixth, I say all of us should just go watch Brett the Jet. If you can’t hit, you don’t deserve to be in the playoffs. They better hit tonight.
Right now the Mets are on this thing where they lose 3 in a row, than win three in a row and if they lose tonight they’d three in a row. So does that mean they’d win the next three? That sure wouldn’t be good if it meant we’d be swept by the Fish lol
Sad. Walks are not an excuse for everything. Marquis ain’t even a bad hitting pitcher. Good job Johnny boy to let the Cubs start out with the top of the order next inning…
can this offense score some runs???????????????
phew, good to see the cubs playing their B team.
That inning is all on Brian Schneider.. Terrible pitch calling…. terrible..
If these Mets don’t score a run in this inning, it may just be a Cy Young performance coming from Marquis.
I can predict it too. I could have told any of you Odalis Perez would have been the early 2000’s Randy Johnson after the performance against Lannon. It’s all about getting things started.
There are so many starting pitchings who look incredible against the Mets just because they don’t walk people which can include swinging at crap pitches. Not because they’re fooling anyone.
If we lose tonight and want to get in the playoffs without playing an extra game, than the Mets have to have the same record against the Pirates. I know both these two teams will get 3 against the Cubs at home – but I’d much rather have the Pirates than the Marlins. This win is very, very important… A 3 game skid for this team is 5 or 6 too easy
if we don’t get a hit this inning, the game is over
It’s the 2nd inning…
have you watched the new york mets play a baseball game in the years 2007 and 2008?
Sylar, it is a tough battle, but you are not alone…..
don’t even go there kingman, i’m not one of “those” you speak about, and don’t even get me started on you…
surprised beltran didn’t try to bunt there
the braves just keep on bending over for these Phils!
stupid Beltran!!
so much for we’re the team to beat, huh beltran
Gary Cohen truly is a jinx with these statistics lol He’s going to ruin Church too. Watch.
i know its ridiculous but I AGREE…beltran shuld be bunting there
here comes the dp
guessnot
thats exactly why beltran needs to bunt…we need to scratch out runs any way we can
Agreed. If Beltran bunts well there then we have runs right now.
there ya go churchy!
ugh, nomatter where you put him, you can’t hide Luis Castillo
Wait so Beltran is a very unaggressive runner… But he’ll swing a 2-0 or 3-1 pitch after loads of balls. Makes no sense.
Looks like I was wrong about Church lol
ugh Slappy no chance for a sac fly here
CASTILLO YOU BUM
No DP’s… score a run here no matter how you do it
wow, castillo, i’m speachless
crap
REAL productive out!
CHRIST I HATE CASTILLO
there’s your crapillo! can’t even get the ball past the mound. all we need is a pop fly to the outfield and that turd can’t do it. pathetic!
CASTILLO IS SO BAD!!!!!!!!!!!! HE CAN’T EVEN GET A SAC FLY!!!
I thought Aguayo’s so aggressive…
No. He’s just stupid.
So you guys still like Manuel better than Randolph? Phew. Why does he keep playing Castillo?
what other choice does he have? Argenis Reyes?
Yes. I’d play him over Castillo any day. Make that every day.
CASTILLO YOU ARE THE BIGGEST PIECE OF S**T I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE
Squash a golden opportunity Mets… Go ahead, do it.
Phils up 37-3 in the 3rd inning
CASTILLO NEEDS TO BE RELEASED RIGHT NOW. START RAMON MARTINEZ!
and that’s the only way we score there
YES! TAKE IT ANY WAY YOU CAN GET IT!!!
Can’t Ramon Martinez play 2nd??? Anyone besides Castillo or Reyes?
I have no faith in this team anymore and what kills me is that they know what they have to do but they seem like they don’t care. P.S I hope I am so wrong about them
I can’t believe there is any way on this green earth this team doesn’t care about getting in the post season.
He’s right though. We all know they care, but it’s not being shown through their emotion. Or even sometimes their physicality. Luis Castillo looks like he’s either injured or fighting the wind every time he runs.
Delgado scores! All though barely. He didn’t take off too quickly did he – lol!
or don’t squash gold lol i want more than silver though
THANK GOD…I HATE CASTILLO SO MUCH….HES GOOD FOR NOTHING…ID RATHER WATCH REYES GO 0-4 THAN CASTILLO GO 0-4
WOW GOOD JOB DELGADO GOING HOME. CASTILLO UR STILL A PIECE OF S**T
magic
castillo is just unbelievably bad
nice heads up play delgado
Castillo has to be benched. He is not very good and he is a huge jinx. I know a lot of folks here don’t believe in superstition, but this is baseball and the players believe in it.
On another front, if you can’t hit with RISP, take what you can get. Thanks Jason.
Boy we caught a break there.
give me a hit here brian.. just do it
Phl. 2 Atl. 0
FINALLY, a place to buy my crossbows legally
Luis is playing because he gets paid a lot of money. There’s no other way to say it. Jerry is a sell out on his own beliefs of how the game should be managed. He hasn’t played well. He hasn’t earned it. But he still gets it. Makes sense?
When Castillo went on the DL he was only a semi-disappointment. After coming back he is a complete disappointment!
You can’t put all the blame on Castillo I don’t like him either but the whole team is playing with no heart
???? How the hell do you know they are playing with no heart. What a cop out for a team that does not execute. Well it’s ok because I wasn’t trying.
it’s a little bizarre that the Mets got hot when Castillo was gone and then cooled off again once he was back in the lineup
1-2-3 inning here
I hate the Braves
I dont understand why Manuel refuses to throw rookies like Parnell in big spots…i think ANYONE would rather see Parnell than risk it with Heilman
CASTILLO HAS SATAN TRAPPED INSIDE HIS BODY!
LOL, that actually made me laugh. He is Napolean, Hitler and Martin Luther all wrapped into one.
wow,,, bottom of this lineup is worthless. Schneider was guessing that entire at bat. You know how you know he has no clue behind the plate.. Just look at the way he takes his at bats. He never has any clue what pitch is coming.. You would think a catcher would have a better understanding about what the pitcher is going to throw at him…
I want to see Niese get through the inning… Not Bermuda
nasty, nasty curveball
Niese will eventually be a good pitcher when he figures out his control problems
I have amazing news. I was lucky enough to find the transcript from Omar and Castillo’s agent from the winter.
Omar: We want to give you 4 years and 25 mil.
Agent: Seriously, Omar. What’s the offer?
Omar: 4 years and 25 mil.
Agent: Omar, I don’t have time for this. Other teams are offering 2 years and 8 mil. I have to get back to them.
Omar: Well, let me know.
Agent: (to Castillo sitting in the room) “Oh my God, I think he’s serious.”
Actually imagine how luck Houston feels as they were offering 3/21.
lol
It’s a coincidence, but the Mets got screwed by the schedule. The Cubs are going to phone in the weekend against the Brewers after the Mets get Zambrano and Harden. Maybe they will only go 5 this week and the Mets can get to the bullpens.
this blog has become like the mets team
the mets are the bullpen and everybody else, essentially two different parts
and this blog has been split into the optimists and the pessimists
you can blame that on the 07′ mets. i bet before the “collapse” there were a LOT more optimists around…
How about Cohen being very complimentary towards the Yanks? He usually doesn’t waste any opportunity to bash the Bronx Bombers. Not that that’s a bad thing.
kjk
Neise is afraid of Ramirez
man i just wish somebody, anybody, would give their opinion on castillo…it’s incredibley interesting and riveting
LOL.
OK, KH, even I can admit that that is clearly the funniest and best post of the night!
I take that back. VEry nice curve.
big out there
What a gun on Jose Reyes.
great seats for the last game on sunday. mezzanine, sec 4. make me an offer at chogi at gmail dot com.
(go niese with that nasty slurve!)
OMG – trying to weed through all the same post over and over and over and over again about Castilo. I get it guys, I get it – LOL.
Lets go Los Mets!! We Believe!!
SCORE MORE RUNS NOW!
someone needs to clarify whether neise can be used in the playoffs or not
Yes for sure.
thanks, is he gonna be our fourth starter?
How is he on the post-season roster? He wasn’t called up until September 1st. You have to be on the 25-man roster by August 31st to be eligible for the post-season roster.
that is ridiculous that he wasn’t brought up in time, pedro is over hill, we are in dire needs of arms in the bullpen and this kid can’t pitch in the playoffs?
i agree. it would be nice to have him available!!!
I think he’s on the roster
No. He was not on the roster by the August 31st deadline.
He was a call up and can take any DLed guys spot on the roster.
maine?
as in maines spot i mean…
Does not have to be Maine. It’s guys on the 40 man that get injured. Thus you could use even Wagner.
according to Wikipedia:
“Players must be on a team’s 25-man roster as of August 31 to be eligible for post-season play. The only exception is that a player on the 60-day disabled list may be replaced by another player from the team’s 40-man roster (as of August 31) who plays the same position.”
I don’t think Niese falls into this category. Which Mets pitcher that was going to be on the post-season roster was placed on the 60-day DL and is now replaced by Niese?
could wagner work?
Maine is on the 15-day and so is Wagner (even though he’s done for the year.)
Either way Niese is elligible. It has been discussed over and over again.
Keith is such a kill joy…
THAT’s what I’m talking about, Jose.
nice hittin jose!
Nice to see Reyes get a double…but hes the fastest player in hte league and i never see him try to lay a bunt down…when hes really struggling at the plate especially…why does he never try to lay one down?
reyes = mvp. period.
when he hits they win. and vice versa.
MURPHY !!!!!!!!!!!!
Back in form tonight.
hearts! guts!
when daniel murphy is up, you know he’ll get a hit
honestly, how can you NOT love that kid? he reminds me of mattingly.
MURPHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AKA D-REX
i could see murphy winning mvp in a playoff series
Come on David… Alright Carlos let’s go… A big home run may be coming
we need to keep this inning going
Clearly Murphy is the solution to half the post on this blog NEXT season. Trade Heilman and Castillo for Betancourt and Barfield. Then Barfield can be insurance for Murphy not being able to play 2nd.
i dont think anyone wants Heilman
why would they want our junk? lol
Because if you notice that is junk of their own. Barfield has been in the minors all season and Betancourt’s contracts is as bad as Castillo’s.
LOL – no one wants to pitch to Delgado.
Come on, Beltran.
Just come through on him Beltran. Don’t get owned by Marquis… You can do it. A base hit up the middle please
Carlos Bet-TRAN
lol who int. walks people this early. Well they’ve already clinched so they prob don’t care
beltran is so clutch
it may have been high but you can’t look at that
ugh Beltran!
hold the lead and add onto it next inning now mets… come on jon
the mets need at least a 6 run lead going into the 7th for them to win
nice inning boys…cmon jon hold the lead
Man look at that curve on his nose
here goes the lead
adios baseball. postseason baseball that is!
Well I will be shocked if they get out of the inning without giving up a run
man derosa missed it by 6 feet
poop
Well, God forbid Wright or Beltran could have given the kid a little cushion.
dosen’t is seem that reyes is one step late on all those grounders?
big trouble here
start the bullpen up, he’s going to lose it this inning
the leash has to be short on niese
throw a hook 3-2 here please
good call
This kid might be good one day but so far he rattles very easy
a lot of bullpen tonight!
they got the hook timed, its over for him
maybe you dummies should have saved pelfrey for today and had him on 5 days rest so you could have had him for saturday
i meant you as in jerry manuel and the mets lol
Damn.
this is tough to watch…
come on… this is the point when he lost it against the brewers. one or two more base runners at tops and he has to be yanked
He slow down when throwing the curveball
difference beetween mets and cubs
cubs bottom of the order produces. mets bottom of the order can’t do crap
cubs have good bullpen mets do not
the starting Rotations are similar but the cubs win cause they don’t have pedro so basically we’re screwed!
How is Wright today, pressing? I just catching the game now
Someone in the Mets dugout should hold up a sign with the numbers of games left in the season maybe then they understand its do or die time
“games gettin’ excitin’!”
Bring Parnell
Yea, bring in the guy who was horrible in the minors.
what a stupid pitch on an 0-2 count… my god
BRIAN SCHNEIDER NEEDS TO BE TAKEN OUT OF THIS GAME!
gotta stop throwing balls over the heart of hte plate with a 0-2 count…
these last 10 games are an exact replica of last year at this same time, its amazing
No playoff!
maybe we should just close our eyes and hope for them to get out for this
OMG. Left him in one batter too many….
season over
congrats, 100th time you’ve said that this year
thanks, cause it looks i’m going to be right ahole
Congrats, you should celebrate. Like I said you are the offical jinx. Maybe you should try the opposite and post that they are going to do something good. Maybe then you could break the curse. Do you and Castillo go out at night and have a few beers and plot the overall demise of the Mets?
haha being right 100 times out of 100, thats pretty good.
I don’t believe you are right. Season isn’t over.
no October baseball this year!
didnt dontrelle do this?
Game over
You must be freaking kidding me.
I don’t know if I can take this anymore.
and there is your ballgame…and the season…
OK, I apologize. You were, and at this point probably are, right.
oh boy
YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!!
phillies win the pennant, phillies win the pennant…
…i don’t believe what i just saw.
i feel like crying right now
I cry at the beginning of the month, now, I just don’t care
it’s offical: The Mets are collapsing. The hope is being drained. This kid can’t pitch on Saturday.
Collapse Part Deux.
Who didn’t see that coming?
No matter how much I hate the Phillies and there fans they deserve to go to the playoffs
I mean you cant even blame niese for this…you gotta blame the mets lineup for not scoring runs with pitchers like pelfrey and santana on the mound…its just unblieveable
how can you not blam neice he gave a grand slam to the pitcher. i dont care how young you are its unacceptable.
At least we kind of saw it coming… At least the Phillies earned it. I mean they are a good team. The Mets played their way out of it. Or should I say the bullpen did while everyone else did. Too bad we don’t have a good enough GM to get us a new bullpen
This is not Minaya’s fault, you got guys in the bp that are not doing their job, look at Julio, he couldn’t get an out with us, and he looks like cy young against us.
just in time for monday night football
HOW THE F*** DO U GIVE A GRANDSLAM TO THE PITCHER. THIS TEAM IS DONE
They already did it once this season. To an AMERICAN LEAGUE pitcher. That “kid” from Seattle, as Francesa would say. Felix Hernandez. The Mets specialize in grand slams to pitchers.
that is mad weird!
…I was coming on to ask what the hell Manual was doing letting Niese pitch with the bases loaded… but uh… why take him out now? bases empty, no outs… whats the problem?
Manual screwed up tonight, this game is on him alone.
Pretty funny how much quicker Cox’s hook was this weekend in meaningless games for them.
i hate this geico kid
Thanks Niese, way to keep us in the game!!
Whatever can go wrong, will go wrong…
You know what? FU*CK this team!!!!!!!! What a collection of GUTLESS PIECES OF GARBAGE!!!
Burn Shea to the ground. With Heilman and Schoenweis still in it.
can we leave Sanchez in there too?
Wow, calm down. It’s not over by a long shot. Granted, I have little faith in the offense after the first few innings, but still there’s a chance.
Of course, as I type that, Lee hits a homerun.
God. Damn. I need a beer.
i wonder what positive spin therealsince86 will put on this one?
Here try this one.
With that said, I still believe in this team, and you should too. Yes, the bullpen is horrific and the offense is spotty late in games, but this is no time to abandon this team or be negative.
We are Mets fans, dammit! We’re not front runners. We’re a collection of hopeful believers that loves our team until the very end, regardless of how joyful or brutal the outcome.
This team needs our support and we should all give it, with no strings attached.
If you will be at the games this week, I urge you to refrain from booing and cheer this time with everything you have. You don’t need to bring anything more than your loud voice and your heart.
As the late great Tug McGraw told Mets fans in 1973, ‘Ya Gotta Believe!’
Come on real you said that earlier, come up with something origonal
Nope I did not say it. Mike said it earlier today. I will just post it to any tool.
either way, come up with something original
This coming from Mr. Negative? Why don’t you come up with something original and ACTUALLY SUPPORT YOUR TEAM?
this is actually pretty funny
I give up!!!!
SEASON OVER!!!!
Yea and this talk of Niese in the rotation next year can please stop.
Yeah, we need to leave minor league prospects in the minors until they prove they’re ready, as opposed to relying on them to get us into the playoffs.
. . . and J.A. Happ is throwing a shutout against Atlanta tonight.
irrelevant, the phils may as well be 10 games up
Can I get another pep talk about “believing” now???
What a joke.
All I can think of is CBP when these scores are posted,
Forget the Phillies…we’ll be lucky to be in the Wild Card lead by Thursday. We’re gona cough it up to a team that went 0-7 vs. it’s primary competition this month.
HILARIOUS.
that basically ended the season. now we’ll have a 1 game lead in the wild card
HOW ARE YOU GUYS BLAMING THIS ON MANUEL. IT IS THE PITCHER BATTING NOT DERREK LEE OR ALFONSO SORIANO. NO MATTER HOW OLD OR YOUNG YOU ARE YOU DONT GIVE UP A HOMERUN TO A PITCHER
i feel like a moron for ever believing in this team
Please allow me to join to Moron Club. I should be running for office.
You know now that they are choking agian they are going to have to answer the same questions all next year and we fans are going to hear it agian from both Yankee and Phillie fans
yankees whole season was one big choke, they got nothing to say to us, but we will hear it from the sillies fans
To all of you who wanted to see the young guys pitch there you go. This is why you CAN NOT bring up a rookie during a pennant race!
Just checking— didn’t Humber wear #49 last year when he sh*t the bed in a last-week start?
Now we find out how god-awful Figueroa is.
THE FUNNY THING IS OUR BULLPEN RIGHT NOW WILL SHUT DOWN THE CUBS THE REST OF THE GAME…BUT OUR LINEUP WILL ONLY BE ABLE TO SCRATCH OUT A RUN OR 2 MORE
when the hell has our bullpen ever done that?
At least MNF is about to start.
OMG SPEECHLESS
see you guys sometime. it can’t get worse at least, right?
SEASON OVER
Lets Go Chargers!
HAHAHA – This is absolutely comical. Can it get any worse?
They could lose out and end up in 3rd place behind the Marlins.
watch it happen.
J-E-T-S
JETS!!
JETS!!
JETS!!
LETS GO CHARGERS!!!!!!!
damn
GOOD NIGHT!!!!
F THIS TEAM!
….gold dust on your feet, on the sunny side of the street…”
The pressure is off for tonight, ain’t it? It’s meaningless for us to watch from this point.
Six games to go, up 1 game. Can the Mets hold it against the Brewers?
well the phillies won the division unless they lose every single game including tonight’s but the good news is that the brewers are as bad as we are sowe can back ur way into the playoffs and lose to the cubs
good season cant wait until 09 hopefully well have a bullpen to protect a lead
Big time Figueroa, big time…
batting practice.
WHAT IS HAPPENING. WHY DOES GOD HATE THE METS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fck Manuel. I want him gone along with the whole coaching staff and the entire bullpen.
This is not the coach fault, what you want to see is another BP>
That is a very intelligent comment by you. I agree about the bullpen. But what the fuk is Manuel supposed to do?
Did we really expect to win a game against the Cubbies?
Come on Brett the Jet… If the Mets are within two or three in like an hour I’ll watch.. I promise lol
i HATE FIGGY JUST AS MUCH AS HEILMAN
Nope….no choking going on here!
Crucial pennant race game, and the Mets start this piece of sh*t.
And he’s going Saturday also?
I told you homers they had no shot tonight.
Tied in WC on Wed
1 game behind Fri
Eliminated Sat
2-5 homestand
Enjoy it all you “ya gotta believe” dopes.
“Gotta believe” = my team blows but they’ll win because I hope real hard!
Ya Gotta Bereave. I guess Lou will pull his starters to rest them in a blowout, not to rest them for the playoffs
earlier today, one of the geniuses on this site said they were glad we held on to all of Neise, Evans, Murphy, F Mart instead of using them as chips to improve the bullpen … what a joke that opinion is… FIRE OMAR
excuse me, i’m going to put my finger down my throat now..
Fire everybody starting with Omar and ending with the ball boys.
Oh my goodness….look at that score…7-2 vs the Cubbies
Choke much Mutts fans??
BOO-YAHHH!!!!
excuse me – but can your team win at least one – one – playoff game this decade before you boast? Just asking…
That is really funny coming from a Philly fan. How did the Eagles do in those NFC Championship games? Or against the Patriots in the Super Bowl? How about the Phils? One championship in 150 years? And the Sixers? Ha that’s a laugh.
Philly fan on Wall Street – now that’s quite a unique combination of greed, stupidity, ignorance and incompetence – all wrapped up into one!
We still had 6 innings to go, Marquis is not Bob Feller
when he’s pitching against the mets he is lol just watch
you have got to be kidding me, mets need to score 12 to win this game
I’m sorry, I’m a g l a s s half full type of person but I cannot blame the Shea faithful and the boos I just heard. What do they expect?
I agree this team gives you nothing to cheer for they roll over like dogs!
funny thing is, if anyone here thinks that ANY of the games remaining this season won’t go exactly as this one has, i’d say your crazy!
No one can tell me throwing Niese tonight was intelligent. How can you not expect this? We all know Pelfrey would keep us in the game. Niese threw awesome against the Braves. Even if they figured him out a little bit, would they do this to him? This is the NL Central offense we’re talking about.
I don’t want to hear that it’s Monday morning quarterbacking because I’ve been saying this for the last 4 days. The only reason why they threw Pelfrey out there yesterday was because it was his turn in the rotation off a normal 4 days rest instead of using their brains and saying hey maybe Pelf is better off against the Cubs.
And maybe it’s smart to close out with Pelf and Johan.
Now Friday will be garbage Pedro, garbage Knight Or Niese and than our ace.
anyone see willie randolph sliding into 2nd last night before the yankee game?
Where is that Doctor who posted earlier today who offered his couch to all of us? I could use him just about now – lol.
alright lets start a rally. oh wait nvm CUZ F-ING CASTILLO UP
the worst part about this game is the mets will end up losing by 1 run in typical too little too late fashion.
This is just UNBELIEVEABLE!!!!
RUNS! WE NEED RUNS!
Hey look Kelly Johnson hits against other teams too
ok this is the point when mlb.tv service begans to lose it.. but church with a bunt hit? why not be smart when it counts? why not ever lay down a sac when we need you to?
why did he take a strike down the middle every F$%$NG time
well omar, as much as i dont think you should even have a job anymore you do and you have a hell of alot to do this off season.
He guys – are we ‘devastated’ yet?????
M – eltdown
E – nsues
T – his
S – eptember
I hope they clean house this year Starting with Omar and Jerry
wow castillo walks
CHOKE!
CHOKE!
CHOKE!
…..as usual.
I couldn’t despise these meatbags in Mets uniforms any more than I do now.
But hey. They’ll still go 2-4 after tonight!
Did the Braves actually tie the Phillies or is that a mirage?
Does it matter? I’m not counting on the Mets winning another game.
Schneider double play coming in………..8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1…………….
WOW WHAT A GUESS
ok hear we go, cut into the lead, get confidence and take if form them
No, they didn’t tie. It’s a loss. I didn’t see it yet. I’m not a Vegas man. I’m just a smart man. I know for a fact that it is 100% or 99.9% at worse that the Phillies win this game.
comeback of the year guy’s, comeback of the year
i smell a double play baby
can u
Thats Right!! CHOKE CHOKE CHOKE
And everybody was saying how the Cubs would not show up because they are in
jeez
i think brett favre can hold a lead for us
wow, I did not see that coming…………….
SCHNEIDER = GO TO HELL YOU BUM
Talk about an inning killer.
Goddamn it, this team is devestating to follow. I would prefer to be the Yankees at this point, at least there is no hope in the Bronx. Of course, Cubbies trot out their everyday lineup against us. Plus, the Braves roll over for the Phillies. At least the Marlins put up a fight. Only we could hand the WC back to the Brewers.
‘I would prefer to be the Yankees’.
You have officially gone over the edge – lol.
Rally killer, why not hit and run
O.K., the booth is getting to me now. We get it, Gary, Keith and Ron…..
Well…there is always next year
For some reason the Braves do better against the Phillies away.
As for this game, unless it turns into those Nats kinds of games at Shea a couple weeks ago – it’s over. Even if we do score, can our pen hold up? No.
it is so funny how the mets get runners on first and second with no outs and manage to get into a double play. it is just getting hilarious now
Did Ronnie really just say that Marquis is not the type of pitcher who can shut a team down for 7 innings?
Can Castro start a game at some point? HE CAN HIT RIGHTIES!
I can’t wait for next year, when I hear one of these self-righteous fan-cops opening their f**king mouth taking fans to task for booing the sh*t outta these losers
Hey philly’s fan, go tell your Mother her car date is here
LOL, this is hilarious. The Philly troll wants to make a post but can’t get a word in for all the Mets fans making the post he is.
THIS TEAM IS SO PATHETIC
the guy alec on abc is more of a man than this mens pen lol
well that inning was a tease, just like this season…
mets*
Schneider is 1 for 17 against Marquis. Ramon Castro has 2 HRs in 11 ABs against him.
Why is Schneider starting??
Because Jerry Manuel is Da Gangsta! Yo word.
Is this team obsessive-compulsive? It just repeats the same masochistic behavior over and over and over again.
METS ARE THE BIGGEST CHOKE TEAM IN THE HISTORY OF SPORTS…AND IM SICK OF READING WRIGHTS POST ABOUT HOW EVERYTHING ALL EVEN NOW AND WE CAN CONTROL DESTINY BY JUST WINNING…CANT HE JUST KEEP HIS MOUTH SHUT AND JUST SAY NOTHING
That is what I said, just shut up and hit with RISP.
BUT WE HAVE TO KEEP THE CORE!
WE MAY MISS THE PLAYOFFS IF WE DEAL ONE OF THEM!
Brian Schneider has his head so far up his @SS it makes me sick. Worst game or season in most important game. Way to go guy… Jerry should take him out.
Its weird because we were sold on Schneiders game calling and catching skills but the past two weeks he’s made some awful pitch selections in big spots.
Niese kept throwing curve balls, is that the only fkin pitch ??? I say bring in Heilman let him finish the game, maybe he will blow out his arm while giving up 30 runs.
dude can’t call a game for his life. When a pitcher has such a devastating breaking ball you don’t need to triple up on the pitch to get the desired effect. Guy calls 10 straight fastballs and get Neise in trouble. in the first few innings.. Then calls a first pitch curve to the pitcher. Right after he threw mostly curve balls to the Eighth hitter. How about curve,, fastball, curve, change.. instead of
fastball fastball fastball,,, curve curve curve,, fastball fastball fastball, fastball,…
what a big time idiot.. Know your pitching staff jerk..
I hope we don’t make the playoffs, b/c we’d have no prayer to do anything so what is the point? Making the playoffs would only prolong the idiocy that is Omar’s regin
Im burning all of my mets memorabilia, never watching another met game, and turning my future children into yankee fans. I hope there is a demonstration against this life ruining team the last days of shea… blow it up with every player in it
How can you bring Omar back next year? The guy continues to put teams together that have no heart.
So no heart = a rookie giving up a grand slam?
this team has heart in the everyday lineup… Omar just didn’t complete the job of assembling a bullpen… which is inexcusable.
jets are about to start, get used to not watching mets baseball for the next 6 months by starting today and switching the channel
O.K. guys, I can take just about anything tonight but another 100 posts on this is all Castillo’s fault. Whether that is true or not, can we just put a moratorium on that tonight? I think we’ve beat that horse to death.
I solemnly promise not to engage in any of my pro-Castillo posts any more. MetsFan is right. We need to leave this extremely overbeaten horse corpse alone.
I completely agree.
I can’t wait to just watch the playoffs without the mets involved so I can watch real baseball again
if this team fails to make the playoffs, i am boycotting them until there is some sort of regime change
Maybe if this team became a bunch of coke-heads, we could recapture that glory of 1986
The Mets announcers don’t help. They really don’t. They give us every reason to not be confident. Congragulations. You win. It’s over.
The funny thing is, they probably are going to win the last 3 games, when they mean S^%T.
OK. Now I think it is over.
Is it possible for a team 1 game up in the playoff chase to be officially out of it?
huh? Braves are 2-13 against Philly.
I wonder what type of financial hit Matt will take if the Mets don’t make the playoffs
Mets playing the worst teams in baseball = losing by 1 run…
Mets playing the best team in the NL = losing by 7 runs….
wow cubs have 5 good innings of mets bullpen. anyone else think there all going to start padding there season stats!
dear mr. doubleday,
please buy back the team. thanks.
sincerely,
mets fans
Anyone else feel like watching this game is the same as watching the last game of 2007? I watched every pitch of that game and I’m not feeling much different tonight…..
They’re losing because of lack of quality bullpen arms and lousy organizational depth.
BOTH attributable directly to our affirmative-action hire GM.
And don’t gimme any shine about “we depleted the farm to get Johan” because none of those guys would’ve been options either.
HIRE BUCK FOR GM.
If, excuse me, WHEN we blow it again this year, if Omar is retained, the fan base should seriously hold a rally to get him fired. What has that piece of garbage done to keep his job? He is given the highest payroll in the NL every year. And his GUTLESS teams just CHOKE and CHOKE.
who would have more success , hielmann a quarterback or favre reliever
this team will need some type of major overhaul the likes of which none of us could ever imagine. i don’t know who, or how, but for the team to just seize up again in the final 17, it clearly has gotten to them and i can’t see how it will be any better next season.
sure, toss in f-rod (doubtful) or some bullpen help (where has it been the past two seasons, again, doubtful) perhaps they can put it together, but these past two seasons will still be there.
going in, even though we all feared it, i suppose, not one of us could have ever imagined that this would play out as it has. what is happening is truly comical, flat out bizarre and could not honestly have been scripted so perfectly (not for us).
perhaps they get it together and make something happen in the next 6 games, perhaps it only gets worse, but i think the makeup of this team next season should in some respects be quite different depending on which ending the mets write for these final 6 games.
It doesn’t matter what the end is, they have to do something, and DW has to shut his mouth up, what he needs to do is what he did in past years, just hit, he has so many games in his hand that is ridiculous, by the way another run, they keep tacking.
well, i suppose i agree in that they need to do something regardless, but i think the depth and scope of “something” perhaps could be quite different if they say win the next 6, although the probability of that happening given their play of late has got to close to 0
Santana, Pelfrey, Wright, and Reyes.
Thats it, imo.
Everyone else should be changed. Everyone.
I doubt they can dump most of them in one offseason. It will likely require a three year down period to do the complete overhaul.
Good thing they signed Santana to such a long deal. Would be a shame if he was leaving just as they were getting competitive again…
WTF, they don’t know how to turn a dp, the Cubbies don’t miss any opportunity
You know what? I keep hearing the steve phillips bashing. HE GOT US TO THE PLAYOFFS TWICE AND WE MADE IT TO THE NLCS BOTH TIMES AND TO THE WS ONCE.
THOSE TEAMS HAD HEART!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
COOK, TURK, PIAZZA, FONZIE, HAMILTON, DUNSTON, PAYTON, PRATT………………
THEY HAD FIRE…………….
OMAR’S CREW MAKE ME SICK
heilman + shoenweiss + schneider = end it
I’m speechless. Just checked to see what was going on and wow! Guess I can watch something else tonight…
Just another routine grand slam by an opposing pitcher in a crucial game. Same old, same old.
I’m sure 2009 will be much better in New Dodger Stadium, with another year of brilliant GM work by Omar.
stop talking out of your azz, besides castillo what can you blame him for?
But the core is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo good
The Mets would never have made the playoffs in 2007 and 2008 without Reyes and Wright. Um, wait…
Oh, yeah let’s trade both of them, that way, our team will finish in 4th place every year, setting our franchise back another 10 years, hooray!!!
This team isn’t close to contention without either of them…
Give up Sylar tonight is hopeless. Let these weakminded fools have their only way to vent.
wait, which team has it locked up?
wait, which team needs to win just about every game?
ahh, i got them mixed up there for a minute.
I seriously feel sick to my stomach.. I can’t believe this is happening again.. Worst of all Brian Schneider is to blame. Its almost like he was trying to lose this game. Unbelievable..
Anyone look at the free agent list yet? What players can Omar fly to meet and have thanksgiving dinner with?
OMAR, STAY DOWN THERE!!!!!!!!! DONT COME BACK!!!!!!!!!!
Wow….that Sunday game is gonna feature one ugly crowd
i feel sick, think im going to go watch the heroes season premiere. this is physically PAINFUL
5 RBI for the pitcher?
Do they never get tired of humiliating themselves?
You’ll have to be more specific about the humiliations, I’ve lost track.
Up and in
just got home to this catastrophe….what did Schneider do?
Nothing. Many are blaming Niece’s poor performance on Schneider calling for poor pitches.
how about the double play, total momentum killer
marquis has five f’ing rbi’s, thats unbelievable and frankly sad
does he out-rbi any one met for the series?
my bad, the mets for the series?
Fire Omar.
Omar isn’t going anywhere :(
Wilpon will never dismiss 2 blacks and 1 latino in a calendar year.
ahh now you’re showing your true colors…it all makes sense to me now…
I told you so
Fiya Minaya!
Give “O” the heave-ho!
Where have you been Gip?
Busy with life, new puppy, etc. Been watching in not so-stunned silence as our beloved Mets ch-ch-choke again.
Hmmm, to me Gipp if I did not know you so well it would seem as though you stayed away while things were positive and came back when things were at there worst. Again, if I did not know you better than that. ;)
Be careful about a$$uming.
Check the archives…I was here through thick and thin. Just less vocal lately due to busier life (working on a political campaign, new puppy, etc). More often, I have been watching games on DVR late night here on W Coast – which is wee hours E coast…kinda silly to comment hours after a game.
The second season in a row that Mets are going to drop it in the last week. Can the current team survive after doing this two seasons in a row?
Sure, they’ll want to do this to us again next year too.
By next year, hopefully I’ll have learned my lesson.
Hey at 9 p.m., the WWE is on.
should take bets on what inning jerry comes out with the white flag and asks fo rthe mercy rule casue the cubs are just teaing off on us.
I sorta feel bad for Jerry
When he came the manager the responded rather well…..
However, somewhere along the way the bullpen just stopped……What can he do? Hes trying to let the veteran guys do something and nothing worked
Really – I dont know if they should keep any of the bullpen guys besides smith……Cut them all
We will be lucky if we get 2 from the cubs,…….Lucky
Doesnt look good at all
so marquis hit a grand slam? now, he might be a good-hitting pitcher but the Mets have to be the first team in MLB history to give up 2 grand slams in one season to a pitcher…right?
Seriously Omar has to go if they don’t make the playoffs which what it is looking like right now.
If we don’t make the playoffs Jerry manuel needs to be gone.. I loved that guy but he is proving he doesn’t know how to get the most from his guys when it counts..
Matsoto Yoshii . . . is he available?
my suit is NOT BLACK……..the mets bullpen is GOOD PAUSE NOT!!
at least ticket prices are only up 79% next year…
if you built it…they won’t come
YEAH BRETT FAVRE!!!!!!!!
Or Thomas Jones for that matter!
what are you talkin’ about???
he’s the GM of the year!
oh wait….or is that the manager of
the year??
Every one is trying to hit a GS with no one on base
LOL. Boy o Boy. You guys know I have been saying all along that 2007 will not happen to this team, well, I was dead wrong. It’s 2007 Part 2. Same spineless, gutless, choke artists we all witnessed last September. man It really hurts to say that. It should be painfully clear to all of us tonight that this team needs a MAJOR overhaul next year an NO ONE should be untouchable, NO ONE.
How can you say the team is gutless when a rookie pitcher gave up a grandslam to a pitcher?
I’m not referring to just that one instance Real, it’s a culmination of the way they’ve been playing down the stretch. Feels allot like 2007, doesn’t it?
Yes but I will be the first to say that it’s the opposite of lack of heart. It’s the fact that they press and try TOO hard. Who knows which one of us is right but I will die thinking I am so….
seeing how we have blown 16 games since the break i would relax
We need to change the entire bullpen
Sorry but when your pen lets u down over and over Im sorry but its normal to feel worthless
u cant expect teams to come from behind every other night after they got a lead….It doesnt work that way
yes they can tack on runs and should score more, but we’ve seen pitching wins especially a good pen…..We dont have not one good guy in the pen….
I feel bad for delgado and them……Sorry but u should be able to hold a 2 or 3 run lead for two innings
So, this is Jerry’s Fault like last year was Willie’s fault, yet Omar gets no blame, I’m going to start calling him TEFLON OMAR
Omar gets 100% of the blame. And now we all know it for sure and so do the Wilpons.
Well you would be the 1000th poster to call him that in 3 years. Did you invent the internet too?
No. Last year was the players fault. This year it’s the players fault, Manuel’s fault and Omar’s fault.
LOL Back up the truck!
How about Mr. Koo? I’d rather have him than Schoeneweis.
REYES SHOIULD BE SHOT FOR POPPING UP THE AMOUNT OF TIMES HES POPPED UP IN THE PAST WEEK….YOU ARE A LEADOFF HITTER!!
I’ve switched to Rangers preseason hockey on MSG. Much better! :D
oh yeah, they’re sure winners. right.
your beard is weird!
The sad part is that the Wilpons have already basically guaranteed Omar is back for more.
Omar will cry a river over injuries, and act like he put together a championship team and just had a little bad luck with players getting hurt.
And, oh yeah, he needs more money to buy some more ancient big name over the hill players. That will do the trick.
Gary – ‘Do they have the where-with-all to chip away at this lead’?
I’m taking bets…..
What odds are you giving?
hahaha – yeah, actually I don’t think there’s enough money in the national debt to cover these bets.
I don’t trust bookies who cannot spell “wherewithal.” Bookies need to be detail oriented.
You know, I just knew someone was going to ping me on that. My bad, I was just too damn lazy (or maybe disgusted) to look up the right spelling – I knew it was wrong.
I couldn’t handle the bets/spread on this one anyway – lol.
No worries…we’re all in snarky moods. Was trying to be funny.
Nobody could cover that action!
And why do we watch this S$*T, we have to be masochist, you know something, none should go to the ball park tomorrow, just boycott this team, that is it, I’M out.
dude is SNY adding fake cheering and audience into this game.. I hear all this noise and everytime they show the fans.. they are all dead silent with a depressed look..
so, the met’s will refund what I paid for playoff tickets….minus shipping?
do they not credit for shipping?
i will literally charge them back for the difference
You can see it on their face, they are giving up, they really need a leader now. Ok now I’m out
Hey who went to the White house two weeks ago and why? Danny Murphy and who else?
it’s weird because even though the mets do have some pretty good players, decent starting pitching and horrible pen, the good players have seemed to choke 2 years in a row now. therefore, it shows you that mentally they don’t have the makeup of champions. they are not mentally tough, and you can’t teach that. to have an entire team of mentally weak players, they will NEVER be winners in the end. it’s just like the military and competitive wrestling, if you are not mentally tough, you will not be a champion. whoever is to blame for this is not the issue. bottom line is that a LARGE part of this team will need to be dismantled in order for anything to change. it’s not the managers fault, it wasn’t willie’s fault just like it’s not jerry’s fault. it’s just a simple fact of competitive sports that you need winners all around you, and this team simply does not have that. oh well, i’m done here and i hope you all enjoy the rest of the game. i’ll be watching every pitch for the rest of the season, but i have ZERO faith that the new york mets will be in the playoffs. i pray that i’m wrong, but i doubt it. goodnight!
Amen
very well said
I don’t think you have to dismantle you just need to find the right mix. Santana, Murphy, Evans, Stokes, Niese, Parnell are all starts. You just have to get rid of the entire pen and find reliable players that don’t get injured. Bring in a guy like Eric Byrnes and some good role players.
Of course, Byrnes is on the wrong side of 30 and was hurt much of this year, wasn’t he?
That is why I said A GUY LIKE HIM. That could be a number of other players.
I guess I can look at the bright side.
This year, being at the last game of the season won’t be a crushing defeat. Just a sad farewell to the stadium and another team that bombed out missed a golden oportunity for the playoffs.
And for all the “blow up the team” guys, ain’t happening. I would be shocked if it wasn’t basiclaly the same crew, other than the pen. ANd please, please Castillo must be gone.
Hey, is 4/5 guys from the pen and Castillo being gone enough? Or who else? Now that Delgado is probably back.
O.K., did you all hear Gary’s rendition about the ‘88 Mets? Coming back like three times when all thought they were dead to get into post season?
I’m delusional – holding on to the smallest thread of hope…..
hey can anyone fire the Wilpons for hiring Omar?
castillo is not gone, who the hell would want him??
even if we paid his salary.
and yes, castillo is a cooler. he is a walking, talking bad luck charm. where he goes, a dark cloud follows.
“Cooler”…haha…so true!
Man the guy is gold glove, and won a ring with Fish, and went to the post season with the twins, is not his fault, is everybody fault. Oh mine, some one here just got teir wish, Beltran is out
where is jeff WILPON. are they sitin on there a$$.
can we get a statement from the front office PLEASE!
i know it wont do anything for the team but atleast for the fans, I WANT TO KNOW WTF THEY ARE DOING/THINKING
I’m sorry, but I can’t figure out why Parnell isn’t playing a huge role in the bullpen right now.
Why even waste him in this blowout when they will probably need him tomorrow night?
After Johan, he might be their best pitcher period right now. How asinine is that?
so, anybody want a seat for $800.00?
Last call.
enough is enough.
i’m going to call my side tail.
wait until u see phillies rally towel night compared to ours….
I didnt even know we had them until the 3rd….
i sware there are tons of cubs fans there too
Prettty sad
WHAT WE HONESTLY NEED TO DO THIS OFFSEASON IS TRADE BELTRAN AND FERNANDO MARTINEZ FOR MANNY AND A PROSPECT
I am convinced Schneider is throwing these games.. Bizarre pitch calling.. I hope someone will go back and rewatch the first few innings.. Its like he was trying to get him in trouble.. bizzare bizarre stuff.. He needs to take a few games off
Two on, that means only one thing…Double play.
good call – lol.
If Brian Schneider bats this inning I will drive to Shea and punch Manuel in the face.
so you want to see a triple play?
i smell another double play here
Oh by poor castillo
The saddest part is that Marquis is trying his hardest to let the Mets back into the game. But they just dont seem interested in taking the bait.
You people are unbelievable!!! It’s raining outside, must be Castillo’s fault. The Challenger blows up… must be Castillo’s fault. Can you please get off Castillo!!!
castillo is unbelievably bad at baseball
slap at it you stupid ….
LOL!!! Slappy McDeePee.
Oh my god i was right
Wow
castillo is the lineup whammy
it’s unbelievable how he is there to kill every rally
the “line up whammy.” Thats good poetry. I’ve never heard that one before. Baseball is the most superstitous institution on earth. It’s weirder than voodoo.
i’m totally serious, i turn around (as the mets have been relegated to the small tv in the corner) and see two on no out and i get a teeny bit hopeful and then i see who’s hitting and i vomit
hey lets not blame him
something needs to happen after this game…someone needs to call someone out for not getting the job done..manuel needs to berak something or someone
Slappy strikes again!! LOL actually he hit it quite hard. Same results though we’re so use to from Castillo.
DUMP CASTILLO AND SCHNEIDER WE DON’T NEED THEM. START CASTRO AND START MURPH AND 2ND BASE. SIGN MANNY TO BE THE LEFT FIELDER AND THEN WE CAN KICK SOME A!
How do you expect to win when you have a team that features Schneider, Castillo, Heilman, Schoenweis, Niese, all playing big roles?
Watching this on game cast. I was excited for a second when Beltran and Church got on. It was a total buzzkill to realize Castillo was on deck with Schneider in the hole. Wow, this week may get really ugly at Shea.
he’s a gangsta baby!
Thank God for the G-men.
It’s at the point now where I can’t imagine a scenario where the Mets ever score a run again.
I think DiMaggio’s 56 game hit streak will be broken before the Mets score another run.
You couldnt write all this if u tried….
It really is all up to the WC now. IOW, can the Brewers choke enough (or out choke the Mets) to let the Mets back in?
The division is gone. I would be shocked if the Phils lost more than 2 games the rest of the way. THey are a lock for at least 3-2 after tonight. Can the Mets go 5-1 to tie them? Doubt it. And since the Phils will probably go 4-1 at least no shot.
At least the playoff is at Shea with mill.!
Too bad the bullpen blew another one OH WAIT!
THIS TEAM BLOWS!!!!!
IS THERE ANY WAY TO BET MONEY ON TEAMS TO MAKE THE PLAYOFFS…I COULD GET RICH BY BETTING ON THE BREWERS
Its over.
Could Castillo’s play be any more despicable?
forget the off season. Send a message. Just cut Castillo after the game. Let anyone else play 2B.
After all, what are the odds that anyone will trade for him? SO get the pain over with.
Maybe they need a big team brawl (1 team only!) or something. A major blow up gripe session to clear the air and get focused.
I’m with willie Randolph here….Willie, what do you think of this team since you left?
Randolph: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
I really can’t worry about the Mets anymore. Watching this team has proven to me that I am psychic. I am calling every single play before it happens. I must be psychic right?
I need to write a book or something.
Anyone actually care that Sanchez is now pitching?
No.
He’ll pitch well four times in low pressure spots, earn a more pressured spot, and then give up 3 runs without retiring a batter.
i hope hes out for the year
At this point, anyone who wants Castillo starting a single game is just a stubborn idiot who will ride the OBP bandwagon, along with Luis Castillo, the Oakland A’s, and Nick Swisher into oblivion. He is clearly completely incompetent at the plate, and whether or not Argenis can hit, he can field, and doesn’t have an incredible aptitude for the GIDP.
Castillo is not the problem with this team, the bullpen is,the back end of the rotation is a close second, and the streakiness of our best hitters would probably come next, but whether Luis is THE problem or not, he is clearly A problem. He needs to go to Switzerland and fall into one of those mini black holes they’re creating.
Take 4 of the next 6, and the Brewers won’t catch you. Simple as that. Does it happen? Who the F knows at this point?
Let’s Go Mets. Ugh.
Please God! Beltran be OK!
Well at least Metsmad will be happy if Beltran is out.
Yeah, correct me if I’m wrong but Carlos actually CAUGHT that ball, right?????
06 seems so far away :(
this game is a loss.
how bad is our lineup after delgado.
i think jerry should make a statement by switching the whole damn lineup
it might look bad but whos with me????
and in the distance….a dog barks
good for him.
so are the castillo haters strong enough today that my mental health won’t be questioned again if i dare say he is really awful (right kingman?)? Yesterday I was reprimanded for suggesting that anyone, including marlon anderson, might be a better option at 2b; and was informed by the all-powerful therealsince86 that luis is a 5 times better hitter than argenis. you know what, i think he may actually be worse. argenis is a real bad hitter, but the mets (with the same bullpen) were winning consistently when he was in there (and he was actually often in the 2-hole!!) and yes, i too have said all along that not only is he a revolting hitter and (at this point) a well below average fielder, he also possesses that intangible “harbinger of bad vibes” quality that buried the mets last year and will bury them again this year. sit him now, for the love of god
Well, David, I never reprimanded the idea of Marlon, just the idea of Argenis.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion my friend, but I just don’t get it. It’s primarily the pitching.
Hey go back and read metsmad22’s post tonight overall and see which one of us you would rather agree with. LOL. It may be enough to change your mind.
look i am aware of your considerable knowledge of the game, certainly greater than mine, but i will not change my mind about castillo. i also think too many numbers can be blinding sometimes–the guy is declining with every at bat, he came back and instantly (like everyone expected) entered a mind-boggling slump. That, together i think with his weird aloof not-that-bright character and personal makeup, have not been a plus to this team’s clubhouse and morale… just a deflating presence.
Can’t really disagree with a lot you said there. However, Awful Reyes is not the answer. Go ahead and give Murphy a start there and let someone else have a chance to blow it.
LOL. I said the same thing yesterday. TheRealsince86 is just a realist and he doesn’t believe in stuff like “intangible”. He’s strictly by the numbers. Actually, I use him as a measuring stick to keep me level headed when ever I start to go off into deep space about Castillo! LOL. But, I also predicted two days before Castillo was due back from the DL that the Mets would revert to their losing ways as soon as Castillo came back on the team. I’m no Nostradamus, but I believe my prediction has come true as expected!
Again, Xman if I could convince myself that if we benched Castillo then some how magically Pedro could pitch well, Schnieder would not hit into DP’s and the bullpen would morph into the Philly pen then I would be right there with you.
If Easley was healthy there is no doubt I would rather have him. At this point I think it may be desperate enough times to actually give Murphy a start at 2nd and put Endy in the Lineup as well.
I knew real you would “Logically” bring up the argument of Castillo not being responsible for the other player’s lack of excution. Thanks again for your logic. I should just start calling you Mr. Spock! LOL. anyway, yes, this team really misses Easley and yes, I would also consider putting Murphy at 2nd at this point.
Why are there even fans in the stands after that GS debacle?
Even after wasting money to get there I would have left after that.
They are getting paid and don’t care so why should the fans?
Sunday is going to be more of a funeral than a celebration it seems.
wow
so if beltran is injured that somehow lets man age ment off the hook for this i suppose
(i really hope he’s ok)
You know what, this isn’t Willie, Castillo, Omar, Wilpon(s), the bullpen, the rotation, the lineup, the fans, or the media’s fault. It’s the f-ing Braves fault. Even when they bottom-feed, they manage to ruin my life.
Yeah, I’m kidding, kind of.
Crap, the Jets are giving up points faster than the Mets bullpen…
DUMP CASTILLO AND SCHNEIDER WE DON’T NEED THEM. START CASTRO AND START MURPH AND 2ND BASE. SIGN MANNY TO BE THE LEFT FIELDER!!!!!!!!
After this season they can call the demolition Shea, “The Collapse – Part 3″.
yeah, 3 implosions in a little over 12 months…
hey guys if you think you got it bad
i’m also jets fan
and today is my 30th birthday
Happy Birthday, dude. Tough day to turn 30.
im sorry bro but happy birthday
Phillies go up 3-2 in the bottom of the 8th.
mets control their destiny…for 2 more days until they are 1 game back
As Metsblog aptly pointed out, the Phillies are 75-0 when leading after 8 innings.
Heilman is unhittable when the game is over. This is the perfect spot for him.
….the wipers on the bus go swish swish swish, swish swish swish, swish swish swish.
the wipers on the bus go swish swish swish, all around the town.
i have to say. i love those commercial of like TGIMNF and Monday night beats Monday morning. but i actually think i had a better time getting up at 6 today then being awake having to watch the mets and jets lose the same night
Wright Beltran and Reyes are the gayest 3 players in the league….yeah…gayer than arod
I wouldn’t go that far. Liberace isn’t gayer than ARod.
That is a team, the Phillies
Game over. This team does not fight back down more than 3 runs after 6 innings.
Lets get them tomorrow!! (sarcism)
JETS ARE LOSING TOO!!!!!!!!!
Don’t forget the Knicks.
And come september, they became the murderers row
Jason Marquis sticking the bats up our collective butts.
a buck three eighty
hr
HEY DAVID WHY CANT U DO THIS WHEN WE R DOWN BY 1 OR 2
Wow, Wright is money in garbage time! Yeah! ARod Jr!
you see wright really NOT want to give Reyes a hug there….he knows….good for him
If AROD hits that homer, he gets ripped. Wright hits it and the people on here do cartwheels.
we need a goddamn miracle
Some one call this game, we are going to lose by one run, if they just know how to chip away, it will be a least 8-6 now.
FIRE THE WILPONS!!!!!!!!
GUYS I HAVE BETTER NEWS PAT BURREL HIT A 3 RUN HOMER
that game was lost anyway – as is the division
That HR makes those f-ing DP’s a much bigger deal.
What else is there to say?
Good name!!!
Beltran is out? Jesus…Ok, this season is done for sure.
what the heck?
At least hes palying hurt…
carlos beltran is trying to pull a willis reed here but will end up grounding out to third
Who do you hate more? Heilman or Castillo? That is a really tough call.
I might have to go with Heilman.
I want them both gone next season along with half the pen.
Agree. I would say more like 2/3 of the “Pig Pen” has to go.
Well the easy answer to that is that many but when you break it down it’s not as easy.
I would like to keep Parnell, Ayala, Smith, Stokes, one of Show/Feliciano,
Get rid of Sanchez (I know he will get healthy and Omar will be accused again but….), Heilman, Wagner, Show/Feliciano.
That gives you plenty of room to remold the pen.
Krod, Ayala, Stokes, Smith, Parnell, Feliciano, new LHRP.
Nice AB by Beltran.
WE NEED A 3 RUN HOMER!
RALLY RALLY RALLY THE PITCHERS NAME IS SALLY. guys watch church will get walked and castillo will ground out
NEED A HOME RUN HERE!!!!!!
church has been TERRIBLE since he came back and i haven’t heard a peep about him
Thanks to Omar for trading for Church and Schneider. They’ve played a big role in the Mets season.
We do need a big hit or home run here. I don’t know if I can believe in just yet though. Something tells me they’ll score 2 or 3 and still lose or actually maneuver 5 runs and lose the game.
I can honestly say the Mets are the most irresponsible team in baseball. The more careless team. The team that literally puts all of it’s strengths on one end at the cost of all of it’s weakness.
would it kill church to maybe take a pitch there?
I really like Church, but he’s cold as ice right now, and facing a lefty, with a shot to position yourself to flip a horrific loss into an amazing win, you really need to see someone hit for him there.
I just don’t understand the logic of swinging at the first pitch in a situation like that. Completely beyond me. Makes zero sense.
why why why why why why why why WHY?!?!?!??!?!?!?
if we Choke/Collapse this season its going to be much worse. We will not only Choke away the division but also the wild card and forever be know as the biggest chokers in MLB history..
Heilman cannot under any circumstances be on this team next year. Even if the Mets somehow survive this black hole of a month and make it to the postseason, for our sake and for his sake, he needs to be as far from NY as possible.
The Atlanta Braves have a disability. They can not score runs. It’s 6-4 now with 2nd and 3rd, but can’t score. Even with no outs. Just watch.
Last inning? A triple by Kelly Johnson to lead off. No one out. 3-2 game. They don’t get him in.
I guarantee they will not tie this game if they can even make it 6-5.
hahah – have you watched the Mets lately?
Pot meet kettle……
And why pitch to the first batter, just tell him to take first base.
BRING IN ARMANDO BENITEZ!!!!!!
luis castillo just left with an injury
good for him
haha nice but wrong luis castillo but im sure u knew that already
This is coming from me but may actually be the best thing. IF Jerry throws all logic out the window and starts Murphy at 2nd base. If he goes with Awful Reyes then oh well.
So who plays left? Evan or Endy?
lol
made you all look
dykstraw i knew what u were talkin bout u didnt make me look
can’t beltran take that on the thigh?
The Braves are actually much like the Mets. Score the runs when they don’t matter. You know like the Delgado home run yesterday. Purely meaningless.
Oh wait – it’s only 6-2. No home run because of these replays.
Phillies win. Dammit.
I H8 U Heilman.
Anyone who tells me the Mets have heart should be looked at insanely. The Mets are a team that crunches. I just can’t believe this is all happening again. The 3 game losing streak we went through with those 2 blown saves. What about this one? Another blown save to the same team.
How typical, right? These Mets lost 6 out of their last 9 playing down to their competition magically still staying ahead in the wild card.
The Mets let down their fans. They gave their fans a reason to hope and now have let them down. I don’t want to say it’s over but it’s not fair to us what this team is not capable of doing. If the Wilpon’s were men, they’d handle the situation like men. Get rid of Omar and Jerry if we don’t get in.
As a long standing, suffering Met fan I couldn’t agree that none of this is far…..
Sorry….
‘couldn’t agree MORE that none of this is FAIR’
Has anyone heard the stats about opposing pitchers’ grand slams—-we are the first team since the 77 Cubs to give up 2 in one year, and ALL THREE in something like the last five years have been against us!
Take away King Felix’s and/or tonight’s grand slams, and the season could be very different.
We need Johan to give us another ”critical” win tomorrow.
My favorite part of being a Mets fan is all the unique records and milestones. Giving up 2 grandslams to a pitcher in the same season is a perfect example. I mean, really. Who gives up two grand slams to a pitcher in the same season and still makes the playoffs? Giving up 2 grand slams to a pitcher represents the height of futility.
We all hate them. But give the Phillies some major credit. They are a very good team. More heart in their pinky than the mets have in their entire bodies.
Agreed, and while I wish it was not true, it sure seems to be.
Agreed.
the Jets defense is like the mets bullpen!
There is no way you could keep the core players after another collapse.. They will never ever ever get over another one. You would have to trade Beltran or Reyes.. I wouldn’t even bother signing Delgado.. Just start over.
I got news for you there is NO WAY they trade Reyes or Beltran!
You must be listening to Mike Francessa? well, there is some logic there.
did he say that? Well if Fatso said that then I take it back..
He even looks like he limps when he barely gets hit lol
im gonna start rooting for the yankees…at least they have heart and can win a meaningful game (last night) when they relaly arent that talented of a team
Aren’t that talented? I think you better look at their lineup again.
You sir, have really lost it. Rooting for the Yankees?????
LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HEY MATT CAN U POST THE METS TRAGIC NUMBER
I want that too!
Mets were 1-8 in Atlanta, including Church’s kick to the head.
Phillies were 9-0.
There is your season. 20 games back and yet the Braves f’d us again. Just wait for Cody Ross to drill the final nail this weekend.
what happened? slappy got a hit? he cant possibly have walked, i was just gone for a second… and as i was pissing i thought c’mon slappy! start a frikken rally and shut me up
(then never dress again)
He got hit by a pitch and the crowd CHEERED!!!! LOL Priceless! LOL
he got hit by a pitch
lol ok that makes more sense
The ghosts are haunting the Mets. Who could deny it? It’s not like we’re trying to outbeat a crappy team. Play .500 and you can do it. How is going 3-6 in their last 9 with this obvious loss going to due it?
I am a huge supporter of Manuel over Braindead Willie, but at this point of the season, I have absolutely no clue what Manuel is doing starting Schneider and Castillo. AND, pitching Heilman last night with the game on the line.
I’m sorry, show some balls Jerry, this is the fiery wreck at the end of the season, AGAIN. Do you really want to watch Schneider, Castillo, and Heilman crap away 6 months of baseball?
There’s just no excuse, he’s acting just like Braindead Willie, trusting “his guys”.
How about this? Every Met fan except not to make the playoffs. Be totally confident in the Mets crunching. That way if they do make the playoffs, we’ll honestly have a reason to believe in happiness. Otherwise, we’ll have a few extra days to get over it.
I’ve been doing that since April.
WHY ARE EASLEY AND CHAVEZ NOT TAKING STRIKES? YOU ARE DOWN 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jerry is just not a smart guy.
What Jerry Manuel is to Willie Randolph is what John McCain is to George W. Bush.
Someone who you may think is okay for a little while because he’s new, but as time goes on he’ll actually turn out to be plenty worse.
Than again, I don’t want to disrespect Jerry. He actually has a winning record. I can’t say the same for McCain’s voting record
Let’s keep politics out of it, shall we. We could go on forever about the democrats voting record as well. Lets keep it to baseball.
Yes. lol Okay. Baseball is somewhat political at times we can’t disagree. And yes, Democrats don’t have the best voting record either. They need a back bone. The Mets are like the Republican mind with the Democrat backbone… A bad combination I’m sure we can all agree lol
If you’re independent, I can understand where you’re coming from but if you’re Republican… You must feel as outnumbered as a Mets fan in the late 90’s to Yankee fans in this city
LOL, now he is just toying with me.
Again, take down the entire thread about politics instead of leaving just one side.
rule one : weak hitters don’t swing 3-1
I want to see Castillo get picked off first.
By a sniper’s bullets? lol just kidding, I would never wish injury to a player, even if his name happens to be castillo.
Thank you. Those on here wishing Castillo dead are really starting to creep me out.
I want more than anything for the Mets to do this but Jeeze….wishing someone will die for that to happen????
they are either 12 years old or just ignorant to what’s life all about. I don’t even pay attention to them.
You’re right… I don’t know how anyone can wish for that. Maybe a soar throat or a bruised knee lol Just something to keep him out the last week. Beyond that, I don’t care what happens. He doesn’t seem like he’s a bad guy though so I wish him the best outside of the game of baseball
lol If Luis just twists his ankle it’ll do good for everyone. We all know he won’t be playing more than 4 years. It’ll shut him down, get him on the couch and give us a better chance to win.
can we score atleast 1 run
I’m sorry, I came into this late.
Do my eyes deceive me?
Has Jason Marquis become the second pitcher this year to hit a grand slam against the Mets?
…
I don’t know what’s worse, watching the Mets or the Jets.
I can’t wait for hockey season.
Who the hell is that Willie Randolph lookalike in the dugout.. Get him out of there… I keep thinking its Willie and a bad bad dream of last season
Yeah, it is creepy….I do not know for sure, but read somewhere that it is some Make-a-Wish-Foundation thing….but it could also be a minor league coach up for September…but it is creepy, that is for sure….
Look at it this way, it will save us the embarras*ment of getting swept in the playoffs. You see, there is a silver lining to everything.
Gary Cohen is a moron
LOL!! Keith is already admitting this team blows and is all done. That’s great.
It isn’t all over. They still have a 1 game lead in the wildcard, and the Brewers have played far worse than the Mets this month.
But the Brewers have the next 3 with the Pirates while we have the Cubs.
The same Brewers that almost got swept by the Reds?
Wilpon better dispatch Minaya after this disgrace.
the mets had a 3.5 game lead with 17 to go this season, right? (Or am I wrong, I can’t remember.) I think that constitues a collapse. Not on the scale of last season, but a collapse. Especially the way this team has played down the stretch.
Actually, 4 in the loss column. That should constitute a “Mini” collapse, not the “Monumental” collapse of last year. But, all in all, two collapses in two straight years. Like I said, back up the truck. …….beep……beep…….beep.
Yup.
yes, cause even if they had a 7 game lead like last year, they’d only be up by1
Exactly, one up with 6 to play. We all know how that would end!! Oh boy. Chumps.
The guys, i.e. the Mets players, have got to take an “us against the world” attitude. I think with Johann going tomorrow, they will get a win. We just have to take this day by day. And today stunk, no doubt, but we’ll see what kind of heart they have tomorrow and the game after, etc.
Sorry, but I already know exactly what kind of “heart” this team has, none.
They won’t win tomorrow, but if they do, they’ll lose whatever is necessary to blow the season.
I’m with you. It’s not looking good at all right now, but it’s not over – yet.
i warned everybody after that 3 game winning streak that the mets had a 3 game winning streak late in the year last year and everybody thought it was going to be alright
i was killed for even mentioning it but there it is
it’s going to take a LOT to get fans excited after this year. they HAVE to make big changes. delgado should go, murph should play 1B and orlando hudson should be signed. beltran should be traded and we should trade for randy winn. sign krod.
I would watch just to see the kids play, especially if F-mart makes the team next year.
agreed completely
I agree a lot needs to be changed, but I don’t agree with, well, ANY of your ideas.
Trade Delgado, when he’s the cheapest and probably the best first base option available? Trade Beltran, who consistently produces offensively and defensively at very high levels? Sign Krod (who ABSOLUTELY 100% will not be as good next year)? Where would you like to put Winn?
I like signing Hudson. So re-sign Delgado, sign Hudson, start Murphy in left. Then, take the money coming off from Pedro, and shore up the PITCHING, which is the sole reason we haven’t clinched a playoff spot yet.
Yes?
I agree with this somewhat. Everything except for Hudson. The Mets have to get a closer. Even if it’s not K-Rod. I’m happy with BJ Ryan or Huston Street via trade, but they’ll cost a lot of prospects. There’s not a whole lot else out there. You can make John Maine the closer, but there’s a chance we lose Ollie. I say look to acquire BJ Ryan via trade, if not go after K-Rod, Fuentes or Kerry Wood.
The problem you’re making Midtown in your thinking is the same problem actually that most GMs make, and that is judging players strictly by the numbers and forgetting all about their make-up and toughness. Yeah, going by Beltran’s numbers and Dwright & Reyes, you’d have to be nuts to get rid of them. But like the Yankees ahave proven many times before, a team full of superstars and players with great “Individual” numbers does not guarantee anything. You need “gamers” and I’m seriously starting to doubt this team has any.
If the Mets didn’t want Delgado, they could pick up his option and trade him for a decent amount. Probably B.J. Ryan plus prospects. They need him though. He proved to us he’s one of the best. Only for one more year though probably because he’s aging. Hudson is too much of a risk. Sign a second basemen to a multi-year deal who’s also injury prone? Just let the Murph play 2B or acquire someone via trade.
LOL, you think the Jays would trade Ryan for Delgado?
Boy, when it rains, it pours.
WANNA GIVE THEM ANYMORE RUNS
jeez….get an out man! at least give us a shadow of hope for a comeback.
nice outing for Ayala our closer
Hey, give Ayala a break. He did come of the Washington Nationals crap heap.
The Washington Crap Heap beat our NY Pile of Sh-t 2 out of 3 games last week.
Erm, The Mets took 2 out of 4, and 4 out of 6
Yes. It’s irresponsible to pitch him. We’ll actually need him. Why wouldn’t have Ricardo Rincon or someone a little less necessary in the last six been in? There’s no thinking going on.
Minaya should be moving washers and dryers at PC Richard with that lame schtick of his- not GMing a major market baseball team.
2 outs bases loaded full count down by 1…………and u thought the mets would actually come back
atleast i wont be able to afford a ticket to watch this crappy team next year
Isn’t everyone happy to know the only decent lefty specialist in the organization spent the season in Mexico? I know I am.
I predicted a 9-8 final 5 innings ago. Here we go…
Ya know, in the bottom of the 9th inning of the 6th game of the 1986 World Series, I remember that sick feeling in my stomach as there was 2 outs and 2 strikes before Gary Carter go the first single which began a series of events which led to our winning the Series.
Never Forget.
So do I. It’s a relevant here as that sick feeling that comes with bad Thai food.
there is a reason why that is one of the single greatest games of all time…because it almost NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER happens…get it?
Oh, man, I will never forget watching that…
And oh how I would love to be having that feeling again when we won that game.
i think keith hernandez is getting horny over marmols numbers
What’s really scary is that the Cubs are not playing with any intensity, they are not even trying and they still are able to make the Mets look bad anyway. A little discrepency in talent I would say. It reminds me of the 86′ Mets team when they would go out and crush teams without even trying.
They’re playing loose and we’re playing . . . well, like you couldn’t get a pin up our butts.
exactly, that’s the danger when playing against teams with nothing to lose.
… as we’ve have learned over the last two seasons.
Good luck everyone. I need to get away from this team. Let me know how it turns out.
Ok, they missed the playoffs.
fire willie!
Actually let’s think about the math a little bit.
17 games to go, lose a 7 game lead.
In the Mets last 11 games, they’ve lost 6 games.
If only we were up 7 games, it’d constitute the definitive collapse. However, losing 2 1/2 with a week to go to a team with a fired manager is bad too.
God I hope Bobby V comes back to us.. WE NEED YOU!!!
I wonder if Johan is having second thoughts about signing in New York and not staying with the Twinkies
Why are they still ahead in the division or the wild card?
They would be if they had Johan.
The Twins are in worse shape than us…
Bring back bobby v and players with HEART
My, my, what short memories we have. Remember how Valentine lost the clubhouse to Al Leiter and John Franco, et al.?
So, let’s look ahead to the offseason, since we all know it’s only a matter of time until the Mets blow the wild card, and even if they get to the playoffs they’re not going anywhere with this bullpen.
Let’s open CitiField with a good team. Here’s how we throw money at the problem:
1. Sign Manny. (Yes, it will be something like 3 years, 55 million … at least.)
2. Sign K-Rod. (5 years, 80 million? Done deal.)
3. Trade Heilman for someone who still thinks he has value. I’ll take a B prospect for him.
4. Resign Perez if it’s not something overly ridiculous. (4 years, 60 mil? Deal. You wanna talk 5, 6 years? No deal.)
5. Let Pedro walk.
6. Sign Derek Lowe. He’s not flashy, but he’s a consistently solid middle-of-the-rotation starter, never gets hurt, and he won’t be crazy expensive.
7. Sign Joe Beimel.
8. Figure out if you’re willing to play Daniel Murphy at second base (yes).
9. Let Delgado walk. Sign Teixeira. (A lot. 8 years, 160 mil? On the low side?) But if you really need to save the money, pick up Delgado’s option.
Yes, these are expensive propositions (and a lot of Dodgers, oddly). Even without Manny, who I view as optional despite listing him first here, you’re adding a buttload of money to the payroll. But how can you cheaply fix this team to win next year?
God, please, no to most of that. Buying high is what Omar loves to do.
Manny is old, he can’t field at all, his best years are long gone, and he’s going to want a king’s ransom.
No Manny!!!
Agreed, Manny’s 22 million can be spent in so many more ways.
you can’t sign more than two type A free agents…..nice try though…..fantasy leagues are not real.
Haha, I don’t think anyone has the chips to accomplish getting all those players in a fantasy league.
Okay, I didn’t know about the two type A free agents rule. So like I said, Manny and Texy are optional. Cut them out of it and do the rest.
I think Manny will ask (and get) more than 3 years/$55 million – especially after what he’s done for the Dodgers. Plus, he wants to go to the Yankees to stick it to the BoSox.
I’m down with getting KRod and DLowe.
Who’s Joe Beimel?
I like that reliever on the Stros – Joe G——-?
Texiera or Delgado, either one is fine with me. It’s the bullpen we need to address more than anything.
Beimel is lefty reliever for the Dodgers. Notable for his low ERA, good K rate, and how he cut his hand at a New York bar and was unable to pitch in the ‘06 playoffs.
the cubs are the 2006 mets…….
the dodgers are the 2006 cards…..
the Mets are the 2007 mets.
+1
great stuff
You know what’s great…and I’m an overall baseball fan
2005 New York Mets NL E 83 79 .512 7.0 4
2004 New York Mets NL E 71 91 .438 25.0 4
2003 New York Mets NL E 66 95 .410 34.5 5
2002 New York Mets NL E 75 86 .466 26.5
Yet somehow, when you go to Philadelphia, Mets fans always say that their team is so great. When in reality, your team was awful for years then the one championship in 2006 made you all think how amazing you were.
Lastly, you bashed Philly for celebrating after a 13 year playoff drought. But in 1999, when you made the playoffs, it was 13 years since your last appearance.
Mets also only have 1 championship like Philadelphia.
Philadelphia has more division titles, all of which were won 1976 and later.
The point I’m trying to make is, this franchise, nor team, was never should of had the “we’re so good, we get bored” attitude of 2006. You never were really THAT good. I mean, with the exception of 1999 and 2000, the Mets have been anything but mediocre.
obviously you aren’t a baseball fan. mets have 2 WS championships……
Yeah well, I missed the one in ‘69, big whoop, you haven’t disputed anything else I’ve said…it hurts to see statistics
lol, perhaps you should read at least some of my comments.
“big whoop”…….that’s funny considering it’s twice as many as the Phils. That’s big whoop, imo.
uh, except the mets have 2 championships, in about 60+ less years
Define ‘championship’.
Umm, if you were a baseball fan wouldn’t you know that the Mets have more than one championship?
and uh, mets were in the playoffs in 1988……so, 1999 – 1988 =13? or is it 11?
and, not to harp, but the phillies were in 1993 and did not make it until 2007…..so, that is 13?
i won’t say anything about your argument, but at least come to the table with something that is accurate
the only stat i pulled out of the elias sports are the standings..the other stats with playoff appearances and championships were just things i remembered the best i could…if you are disputing my accuracy then yes I am wrong, but the point is valid in my opinion
Oh, what a tease here.
maybe wood will get hurt here lol….
LETS GO CASTILLO
Friggin Yankee Pinella. Why on earth would he bring in Wood with a 4 run lead and 2 outs in a game that does not matter to them?
have you heard of this stat calle saves? this is a save situation.
Phillies have been awful between 1990-2000, with the exception of the 93 team. Since 2001 though, the Phillies have put together winning seasons except one (2002). Never have you heard any Phillies fans or players brag about “how good” they were because they never got anywhere.
how many playoff games have the phils won in that time?
Dude be quiet, I’m not listening to a guy that didn’t know the Mets won 2 CHAMPIONSHIPS NOT ONE
LOL – exactly. Dude must be very young to completely forget about ‘69.
Like you guys remember every team and the amount of World Series championships they’ve won…go ahead tell me
We are not on every team’s blog ripping their fans for not knowing baseball histroy.
I wasn’t ripping your history, I was ripping your fans attitude and swagger how about good you think your team is , when your stats prove you really aren’t
Now you still can’t read. That’s what I said was that you were ripping the fans about lack of knowledge when you yourself don’t have a clue.
So your not a true fan than if you don’t know your teams history i guess…just like I’m not a true MLB fan because I don’t know every teams history
And no, I’m right, I used stats to back up my point about your attitude….then you fools turned it around about stats…you never disputed my point about your attitude and “how good” you are
And as fans of your team, you should have some knowledge about them, I mean , it’s only fitting since your a fan…unless your a fan who jumped on the bandwagon in 2006 when they won the NL East
well hey at least we fought back to a save situation
slappyyyyyyyyyyyyy…..we’re goin’ to candy mountain slappyyyyyyyyyyyyy…. it’ll be an adenture! slapppyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!
noooooo slappyyyyyy …. i misspelled adventure slappyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!
I missed the one in ‘69 my mistake.
You must be very young. How can you forget that year?????
Okay man, tell me every team and how many championships they’ve won…then say something to me, give me a break
Castillo? Ugh.
castillo is A JOKE
he doesn’t swing at fat pitches
castillo – what a horrible at-bat. Chances for a comeback were remote but jeez, he is just a vile, heinous baseball player.
i don’t want physical harm to come to him
but i would be totally ok if he was maybe moved to a secure location until the end of the mets season’
or maybe he had visa issues
agree…..like maybe send him to Guantanamo. Watching this team is like being there – being waterboarded every night.
Ironic that Castillo is up in this situation
3 straight callled freakin strikes!??!?!? are you effin’ kidding me!!! UGH WHAT A BUM!
How appropriate…………. If the Mets really wanted to shake things up they would Release him tonight… Goodbye Castillo…
That at bat should get Castillo benched.
Ramon Martinez should start. He can’t be any worse than Castillo or Reyes…
nope you love castillo stop bandwagoning now
Ugly. Plain and simple.
He is awful. Omar’s most glaring error. It’s an embarra$$ment every time he gets to the plate. Swing the GD bat for heaven’s sake.
What a freaking hole in the lineup is the 7 spot. Castillo is worthless, absolute garbage. Afraid to swing every single time. What a waste of space this guy is. Unreal, unbelievable!!!
All according to plan.
Mon: Lead down to 1 game
Wed: Tied w/ Brews
Fri: Behind the Brews
Sat: Eliminated
Sun: Unmercifully booed
2-5 final homestand
Actually, won’t they be behind MIL after Wednesday night’s loss? You think it will take until Friday?
If you’re right, I give you credit. If you’re wrong, all of us will rub it in your face. I think we can do better than 2-5. I still think we can finish up .500 in the last six. Put these last 9 games behind us. Worry about the next six. Know that the Brewers take on the Cubs in 3 out of 4. Know that the Marlins have to pick up 2 in the next 3 just for the games to count for them.
We’d rather be up a game than be down one. It’s still not over. We can still do it. The perfect person is on the mound tomorrow. It’s not like the last time when we couldn’t even score runs off Lannon and Perez. We can score. Johan can pitch. Pitch deep into the game. And we’ll win. And Ollie will throw a big game. Thursday and Saturday are the crunch games.
Maybe all of us don’t even see past all the drama?
Think about it. We could have Johan on the last game of the regular season. That’s much better than 1/3 of inning Tommy Glavine.
Than who’d get the ball on a one-day playoff series against the Brewers? The guy who’s awesome against all the awesome teams. Ollie.
Bobby Valetine clap clap clap clap clap
Buck for GM clap clap clap clap clap
So, which of the core players is getting shipped out when the next GM gives the team a radical makeover? I’d prefer Wright but I’d bet it’s Beltran
You’re sick furioso. That isn’t happening. Our problem isn’t the offense or defense. It’s the freaking bullpen. Our core guys have nothing to do with our losing. Get it through your thick heads people. This core group of guys here are outstanding. We are losing because of the bullpen, gosh!
The bullpen + Pedro Martinez. Can’t forget about him. And he wants to join them – how bad is that?
It’s all about complementing the core. Just think about if the Mets had won half of the games they had blown. We’d be up near 100. Better then the Cubs and Angels. Even with a mediocre closer. Maybe we could have used Billy after all. He provided a statistic even if not clutch.
You are just so completely crazy, dude…..
Who’s crazy, me or furioso?
Sorry. Furioso, obviously…
Why is this crazy? What the hell have Wright or Reyes ever won here? Nothing. Wright talks a lot, then is the Invisible Man down the stretch. Reyes too.
And keep in mind that we are not talking about cutting Wright, but trading him. For an “elite” player like Wright, a good GM should be able to get a HUGE haul of talent back. Talent that wouldn’t turn into ARod Jr in the clutch.
Think Herschel Walker trade, not Kazmir trade.
The Red Sox dealt Manny and their winning PCT went up. So how can you think that Wright is too precious to trade.
We’re not trading the core. Why would we? So all of you can be crying Scott Kazmir all over again? Do you guys want to go back to the days of Mike Piazza playing 1st base and Obner Moreno setting up our saves? lol Actually, that might sound better than what we got now. These Mets got a solid core. Just complement the core.
Get a real bullpen. Start from scratch. Even if it means trading Parnell or someone who we may need. We need a pen.
I can’t stand you Castillo, go eat a fat one!!!
Ok, I am done with Castillo as well. Go out and do something drastic like starting Murphy at 2nd.
Reyes
Murphy
Wright
Delgado
Beltran
Church
Evans
Castro
This has to be the lineup. Who cares if Murphy MAY not be able to turn the DP. At least he is not Castillo or Awful Reyes.
That being said having to depend on a rookie pitcher cost us this game.
nah just like a republican to have the wrong idea, but then jump ship when finally you realize you are wrong…..
and you know everything.
all the democrat and republican analogies… lol it’s only a couple months away so i guess it’s only natural.
if the mets don’t do it, than i’ll root for the rays in the playoffs. than pretend baseball doesn’t exist – even though i can’t for a few months. and than give myself false hope against in march. isn’t that what red sox fans did for a century?
Hey as long as I disagree with you I will vote for Stalin Obama.
Ugg, not to mention the fact that I have said all along that Castillo is not very good anymore. Just better than Awful Reyes.
Why am I arguing with a guy that is up past his bedtime?
works for me!
desperate times, desperate measures.
castillo will sign a 2-year extension this off-season.
since the next game is so important, can we find a rookie with zero experience to lead us to the playoffs?
just cut Castillo. Tonight. Just do it.
Take Heilman with him
All of us need to be as rational as possible. I doubt Ramon Martinez is starting, I doubt one-sixth of the Dodgers roster are on the 2009 Mets and I doubt the Mets bullpen ever becomes adequate.
At this point, if the Mets win the wild card and even lose by 10 in 3 straight games to the Cubs in the playoffs – I’d be happy. Just so it’s not a collapse. Just so we have some damn dignity.
You know you won’t even get that from this team, don’t you?
That’s ok……fans can pay back.
I don’t want anyone- other fans or radio hosts or announcers or medic hacks- never again do I want to hear anyone give me this “don’t boo them, don’t be so negative, go to the stadium and support the team” rah-rah bullshyt.
This is the kind of 2-year period that loses a generation of fans.
Sorry, I disagree. I’m not bailing out. I’ll watch until the bitter end, I’ll be back next year.
I don’t like it one damn bit but I’m not going anywhere.
You’re right… It’s been heart breaking. They’ve lost a generation of baseball fans period who can’t handle the stress lol It’s like Syracuse losing 20 percent of it’s population in like seven years… They must have been Mets fans.
I remember someone saying something about the growing Mets fan base. Maybe they’d grow some more with the Yankees playing pitifully if they actually took care of business…
The Mets are living off the 2006 image… Take that season away and I guarantee they’d be in the playoffs these last two years because they’d be hungry.
Castillo, man up and tell Jerry you have an injury or your sick or your wife is having a baby and you have to take off. Just get out of here, you stink and you know it. Stop bringing the team down you freaking cancer!!!!!
he took 3 straight strikes??….what a beotch!!..kill yourself Castillo..go back to yer country
Castillo, head back to the DR you sorry bitsch!!! and go eat a fat one you sorry piece of shiite
In his post game comments Jerry Manuel looks and sounds like someone whose brain has been devoured by zombies. ‘I feel pretty confident we can still do it,’ he said. He knows he’s finished as is the team. It sounded about as convincing as when Willie used to say the same thing.
Castillo is not even trying anymore!
don’t worry fellas, they are all good. three more against the cubbies then three against the marlins who really have no desire to beat the mets, right?
on the flipside, the brewers have three against the pirates and then three against the cubs who by then will be in total playoff mode.
solid.
must be nice to go 9-1 in you last 10 games
Only the Mets with a real chance to bury the Brewers tonight by putting them 2 back with 6 to play, can play like this. I don’t want to hear how bad the Brewers are playing because last time I checked we split with the freaking nats and lost 2 out of 3 to the braves, for a 3-4 road trip.
None of us should bail out. All of us should look at our TV’s or these Mets in person and be as confident as we possibly can be. We’ve made it too far. If we were told be up one game in the Wild Card before the season, we’d probably take it. I know we would on June 17th.
So let’s do it. Forget about last season. Forget about these last 9 games. Forget about everything except for how great these next 6 can be. We’ve seen the Mets come back. The last 3 game losing streak they endured led to a 3 game winning streak. We know they can do it. They just have to hold up for more than 3 this time. Than again, 3 may be all necessary to beat the Brew Crew.
Wishful thinking brother…the brew crew is playing the Pirates for the next 3. We just have to worry about winning our games. Have to get it together for this last 6 and get in. We just need to get in.
We’re playing about as bad as the Brewers. Not better or worse. Who cares though? Does that mean anything in these last 6? We got 3 against the Cubs at home. They do to. It’s fair game, isn’t it? They have three against the Pirates and we got three against the Marlins, but we’re up one.
It comes down to these final six games. I’ve happier we’re butting heads with the Brewers and not the Phillies, but we can’t expect these Brewers to be any less because anyone can rise to the moment at this point. We have Johan going two more times this season. Trust me, it’ll mean the world.
Is the only way the Mets can get over the ghosts of September 2007 to contract as a franchise? Or move to Oklahoma City? lol
Ughhh… some way, some how… we’ll get there. i just don’t know how. i keep telling myself that everything and may have to until september 28th.
Guys we need johan tomorrow that we got him for hes our stopper
I have to say I am impressed at the positive vibes tonight…however, we are customers and the company producing this putrid product need to be punished if they do not make the playoffs and don’t go out and rebuild…we all spend too much money and time and emotions for this team to pi$$ it all away
and another thing…where did that DBag MLBfan go…I was enjoying him making a fool of himself…
i couldn’t agree more…
Your a moron.
wow
Nah, it is a nonissue and a coincidence and a silly thing to harp on, and in addition, A Reyes is horrible.
Thanks Sylar.
You blame him for EVERYTHING that goes wrong with this team. Do you realize how irrational that is??
Oh, and btw, Reyes was excellent in May and June with Castillo, how do you explain that???
Thanks AGAIN Sylar for the points about May and June.
I think the anti-Castillo stuff borders on a mental health issue, it is so overstated and ridiculous.
YES Slappy is done and his contract is horrid, but with Easley hurt, he is the only option.
Jerry shouldn’t use Heilman but he should let A Reyes go 0-for-4 every night?
And he is NOT a gold glover either.
No, suggesting playing A Reyes is incredibly silly.
Slappy stinks, but he gets on base, and despite diminshed range, he still plays a fine second base.
I guess we agree to disagree.
I understand the point, but I just think there is no cause and effect here. A Reyes has the better record, and I have NOT researched it, but perhaps A Reyes was playing all of Santana’s and Pelfrey’s games his first month, when those two did not lose a game?
If so, your point is absolutely meaningless.
OK, let’s both root for the Mets and agree to disagree….and if I swear that I do root for Argenis to hit a homer every time up I hope you do the same for Slappy McMediocre.
Or the fact that he hit the innings wall just like every other young pitcher. We will see next year.
No, of course not, but we don’t have any other options, man.
A Reyes would have struck out most likely, or hit an equally weak grounder…at least there is hope that Slappy might walk at some point tonight, which is impossible with Argenis the Anemic.
they know it, what they’re saying is that there is nobody better right now.
but i can’t see how anybody else cannot be better offensively than him.
Why are you making this entire blog about a crappy 2nd baseman with even crappier replacements on the bench? It does not matter, Castillo is going to get the starts. Just shut up and move on.
Yes, I’m happy, we got the tying run in.
Am I happy Castillo didn’t get him in?? No… but I doubt the almight Argenis Reyes would’ve either…
Not having a real second baseman is indeed the problem.
NO ONE is pro-Slappy, some of us are just ANTI-ARGENIS.
Until you realize that Awful Reyes OBP is .200.
Uhmmm 150 points is not slightly higher.
i’m with you man, crapillo = losing, it’s plain and simple. the guy is a born loser and should never be allowed on a baseball field for the new york mets.
Hiding in their closets.
I am still here Metsmad22, and not wishing death on a Met like your weak mind.
I never said Castillo must play, just that he must play OVER Argenis.
And the difference in their OBP is anything but slight.
So you want him to die, and go to hell???
What the f**k is wrong with you, you warped little moron??
Hey there is no proof that Napolean or Martin Luther
( I would hope not) went to hell. LOL.
Might as well have some fun with this Sylar, it’s not like they know any better.
Wow, Metsmad22 now I feel really stupid for debating you….what a ridiculous and inappropriate comment, like the folks calling for Heilman to commit suicide last night.
Hey maybe he means in the history books as great leaders that changed the history of man for good or bad?
Haha!! Slappy McMegalomaniacalTyrant!!
I personally think that the bullpen=losing but why not blame it on the crappy 2nd baseman if you want.
Again, there are 25 players on a team, not one, and I really doubt two below average 2nd baseman had much difference to do with either of the records.
Wow, how funny, HAHA!
(Not)
I’m done with you. At first, this little debate was entertaining, but now it’s clear you have a deep seated hatred for Castillo that goes beyond baseball, and no amount of logic or reason will change that.
So f off, you demented little freak.
I have not been hidding. I have been here all night. I just chose not to make this entire blog about one crappy 2nd baseman over another really crappy Awful one.
dude does have a shovel face
its not hard to see it coming if you have ANY baseball knowledge
You as much as anyone should know that the Mets follow no logic.
Don’t blame that on Schneider. That was all Neise. But that’s what happens when you have to count on a AA player to help get you into the playoffs.
couldnt have said it better myself
Word.
I’ve been thinking how bad it would be if he hit the first home run in Citi Field. May as well tear it down and build a new one.
LUIS CASTILLO IS NOT THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH THIS TEAM YOU F–KIN MORON!!!
THE BULLPEN IS TERRIBLE, THE OFFENSE IS INCONSISTENT, AND ASIDE FROM SANTANA, PELFREY, AND PEREZ, OUR STARTERS BLOW!!!
IS CASTILLO THE BRINGER OF ALL DOOM???
F–K
Wow, you are incredibly brave for a blog aren’t you. LOL.
Drop it Sylar, he has his scapegoat. Actually pretty fitting that a troll would have a goat.
Who plays center field?
Amen to that !!!!!!!!!
I prefer the term “@ss-hat”. Or a compromise “@ss-clown”.
Awful Reyes of course. It does not matter, Beltran is a curse/
Again, how would a post like this make you any different from the post the Philly troll is trying to make?
So your saying the Mets win the division if Castillo didn’t come back? Is it really that simple??
what are you the blogging police? let people speak there peace.
Well first of all im not making fun of mets fans. If thats a start? I am extremely ticked off with this team and their inability to get anything done with the highest payroll in the NL
why doesn’t he come on screen and shmooze with Gary?
Yes. According to their logic ALL the Mets need to do this offseason is trade Heilman, release Castillo start Awful Reyes, and the Mets will win 116 games.
Did I say he could not say it? I ask him a question. The only one telling people what to post or who should post is you.
I don’t think it’s fair to have posts deleted without a reason why, but I guess I can understand the reason. We should keep politics as much out of it as possible, even if it is awkwardly less intense than our anxiety with the Mets.
No SCREW YOU and your team that hasn’t done a DAMN THING since 1969!!!!!!
I’d love to know what the logic is there. Okay, so they haven’t won it all since 69. So? Does that mean we shouldn’t root for them? What does it matter when they last won?
Well take it to the media then. Just stop clogging up this post with the same thing over and over and over again.
And whether or not it’s true, and I refuse to get involved in this debate, WE ALL GET IT.
You post something, a Castillo supporter post his same support, you non Castillo supporters post the same thing again, Castillo supporters post their same thoughts again. It’s a dead horse that’s just making my head hurt – lol.
So when’s your Klan meeting???
right and the cubs are not hired guns, do you have any clue?
If I feel like saying that I go scream outside instead of actually taking the time to type it on a Mets blog but to each his own.
Yeah, that is what we need, and Carl Everett for good measure
true because the franchise face at 3rd is not white?
your ignorance is pathetic.
More great cause an effect from a moron. Hmm, I am guessing based on your ablitity to compute relation you scored a -2 on your SAT.
Is Vince Coleman still available?
Lets not turn this into political garbage. Because then it could be said that the Mets are choking like a Democrat in September.
Who is this “Omar”? I’ve haven’t seen him around…
Or maybe the tree in your back yard during your Klan meeting.
Well, he’s signed through 2011. Enjoy!
Man is everybody, not Castillos only, every one of them.
um no……
Damon and a prospect for Beltran??
Now I feel even dumber for debating you, as your baseball knwoledge barely exists.
LOL. Good analogy real!! So true. LOL
Best comment by TRS86 in two years.
Best way? No Body shows up at Shea or Citi Field. best way is to hit them in the wallet.
go in front of their house and put a giant sign on their door!!!!!!
LOL even you know how crazy this guy is. If you want to trade Beltran then it needs to be for Holliday and Atkins.
You are correct, seeming as they won 100 games that season. I had to have heard that whole thing wrong b/c I doubt Gary could be that far off….
Anyone else hear that?
It’s a TEAM game. He is not singelhandedly contributing to every loss, nor is he making the bullpen blow leads, or telling Niese to give up a GS to a pitcher.
Regardless… so what?? You don’t like a baseball player, and that somehow justifies you wishing he would die??
How old are you, 10?
Why are you letting yourself get so bent out of shape on an obvious retard?
Agree!!
Thanks gip and Xman. I think I would be better off posting on a political blog. My team has a history of pulling it out there.
June of 2007?
Why are you yelling at all of us?
You simply cannot make this up anymore
We don’t agree on football teams, and I owe you one: SCREW YOU LOSER!!! But I agree with you on Omar.
Can you guys please stop yelling?
What the hell are you talking about?
Your right, GG CF who hit .280, 25 HRs, and drive in 100 runs every year stink.
How does it feel to be the stupidest poster on this entire blog???
go back to beerleaguer, you are not a mets fan
And what the hell are you talking about? Beltran hasn’t been out all year.
How is this a curse? You just said that it was a good thing that Beltran got injured.
How do you ever expect anyone to take you seriously. Speaking of a jinx, I don’t remember you ever being on here until we started losing games. Maybe you are the curse?
And you of all people deserve this.
i dont see how beltran has anything to do with this
He’s not a Met???
Then who was the guy playing CF for the last four years who looked exactly like him??
Oh so you have been so much of a tool that you have been banned many times? Hmmm. So when the going gets tough you just turn into more of an idiot?
Hard to imagine rooting for a team who wins when it matters.
You are just the ultimate sore loser. Why are you even here? Why do you even watch? If I was as miserable as you are, I would find something else to do….
just wait, someone will say something stupider…
hahaha
“Guess what, everyone uses this site to post, no one cares what you have to write okay so just SHUT UP.”
My friend, go to the nearest mirror and recite this IN ALL CAPS to yourself.
Jeez, don’t blame Matt for this bunch of losers.
I want to see the Mets’ tragic number up there now.
You read this blog, so you obviously cares about he writes, moron.
It’s amazing how stupid this blog has become…..
You do realize without Matt putting up this blog and putting up threads you wouldn’t have a place to go on a rant, right?????
And don’t lump me in here with your no one cares what Matt has to say crap.
After reading his post there is no doubt he will come up with something more stupid.
Hitting a 2-run homer prompts this post?
Do you think before you speak??
hey Kingman can’t you ever be nice to anyone?
hitting it at the most useless time!
Umm, yes…have you read Metsmad22’s posts tonight? Racism, wishing death on players, and general mean silliness….check them out and check mine out and you may re-evaluate your opinion.
Ummm, Castillo? LOL
The Mets? Your life?
IMO if we Choke/Collapse this season its going to be much worse. We will not only Choke away the division but also the wild card and forever be know as the biggest chokers in MLB history..
Hey Dazed, can’t you be nice to anyone??
well you’re basically mean to everyone in the thread im just pointing out the obvious
No not really…sometimes maybe because I really love the team, the uniform and the history, and when folks make racist and violent comments, I take offense. And I don’t get blaming Castillo for bad pitching.
But I often compliment folks on opinions, ideas, and even good names…..and I often admit when someone else’s opinion is better than mine, as I would rather know the truth than win an argument.
But I do appreciate your opinion as well, I really do.
LOL
He’s tipping the curveball, he slowdown his delivery when throwing it
the luis castillo on the chargers
Another dude Omar gave 2 years… It was the only way to retain him, but he has turned into one of the worse players in baseball. There won’t be any room for him.
The Mets bench next year should be as followed:
Ramon Castro, Argenis Reyes, Damion Easley (if he wants to come back), Endy Chavez, Nick Evans (possible platoon with Murph in LF) and I’m sure Angel Pagan will work his way in there.
Agreed cut that 1.25 million for next year as a loss. No room for him anymore with Murphy.
I’d actually rather see Murphy playing 2B if he has the ability and than maybe the Mets will platoon Evans and Pagan. Or sign a FA.
If Awful Reyes is on this team next season then Omar should be fired. How hard is it to find someone better for the bench than he is?
Actually I could see Murphy and a backup guy like Barfield at 2nd. Tatis and Evans in LF until Fmart is ready and spend money on Krod, Ollie, and Lowe. That would be a great offseason.
I agree that resigning Ollie and adding Derek Lowe would make a top notch rotation. I doubt Krod is coming our way though…..he is too costly for the Mets.
Because it’s a better way to depict the standings at this point in the season???
And if he’s a “tool box”, why are you reading his blog?
Reyes is hitting .300 right now, and he hit over .300 in May and June
phills will clinch by end of wednesday
Are you refering to us or the Mets?
OK, point taken.
ill take them
No thanks.
Relax… lol I said I wouldn’t let it go too far. Come on. I got to alleviate my mind from some pain with the Mets. I even get it dished being at being a Jets fan. It’s not even being a Democrat because there’s lots of flaws in the party, but I’m just anti-Republican lol I’m against seeing innocent babies, women and American soldiers killed for no reason… Sorry for that.
As for baseball, we got six games boys. I hope we win this wild card… Anyone can be better than these Mets or Jets now though
Why don’t we the fans carry many of the same similarities?
Okay let’s just stop lol No more Endy Chavez rule one for 3-1. Just no politics.
Yes we will,, In every stretch run for the next 100 years they will reference the heartless 07/08 Mets.. It doesn’t get much worse than this…
Glad that Mets fan who killed his parents over a mets loss is already in jail.. The entire city would be in trouble
This team makes me sick. I can’t belive they’re doing it to us again. Collapse 2008! Hopefully they’ll win tomorrow but what about the following 2 games. Will we get the good Ollie or the bad Ollie. And I really don’t trust Pedro. Milwaukee will probably beat the Pirates, at least 2 out of 3. With all Milwaukee has been through, after tonight they’ll only be 1 game out of the wild card. They must feel pretty good.
Is this actually a true story?
It was too magical.
Yes, that was kind of weird lol I have to say it was impressively quick though. The people who work on this site actually do watch that. A lot of it is probably computerized, but I can see why they don’t like politics on here. Not that it’s controversial, but just irrelevant. Mets fans have enough stress on their minds.