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Note: Jose Reyes and his 200 Hits
By Matthew Cerrone - Sep 24, 2008 9:59 am

Last night, Jose Reyes had two hits in four at bats, including a bases-clearing triple in the sixth inning.

The triple was Reyes’s 200th hit of the season, making him only the second player in team history to reach that mark – the other bing Lance Johnson.

…the best part about the triple was when jose stopped at third, standing, and let out an emotional series of fist pumps and claps while pointing to his teammates in the dugout…i love itlet it rip, jose

Jerry Manuel, speaking about Reyes after the game, said:

“Well, it’s a big hit for him…There is no doubt that for him, and obviously for the team and where we are and what we’re going through, there’s a certain weight that I’m sure is lifted when he gets those type of hits in those clutch situations.  I mean, the emotion and the stuff and the exhaling, you can kind of feel it and sense it.  But, those are the things that make for championship-type players.  You have to find a comfort even with that kind of weight on you and still be able to perform, and he’s finding that to some degree.”

Reyes is batting .354 with five extra base hits, six stolen bases and eight runs scored in the team’s last seven games, during which they are 4–3.

By the way, to vote for Reyes in this year’s Hank Aaron Award for offense, click here.

117 Responses to “Note: Jose Reyes and his 200 Hits”

  1. SteveHenderson9-14-80 says:

    It’s amazing that only two people have ever had 200 hits…Lance Johnson’s 1996 was considered a remarkable year, but Reyes has been playing at that level-as a shortstop-for much of his career.

  2. starz31 says:

    lets trade him while his value is high.

    • Dr. Alan Lans says:

      I told you to stay on your meds. Now get back to your group home.

      • Xavier22 says:

        I think he was kidding – I mean I hope so anyway.

        But there was some dummy in here a couple of weeks ago suggesting a Jose for Francour trade in the offseason as Jose fades in Sept.

      • starz31 says:

        no worries…this was a dedication to those wonderful metsblog readers that only post after losses.

        • Only way I deal Reyes in the offseason is if you can get a guy like Roy Halladay back for him.

        • therealsince86 says:

          How much better is Halladay than CC, Sheets, Burnette, etc? Sure he is better than most of them but is he better than what Reyes would be over his replacement?

        • starz31 says:

          no I don’t think so…

          This is not like the Hanley for Beckett deal…Hanley was unproven at that point.
          I don’t think you trade Reyes until you have a viable replacement for SS…and we don’t. maybe in 2-3 you can entertain the idea with possibly Wilmer Flores (prolly wont stay at SS or Havens or a F.A.) and whose to say Reyes isnt even better then.

          but until then, you dont trade one of the 3 best SS in the game. He has more value to us at SS than Halladay would as our #2 (I’m not discrediting Roy at all)

        • Chan Ho Parking Lot says:

          No, I wouldn’t do it. Halladay is good, but he is 31 and Reyes is 25. Reyes can still improve even more from where he is right now. Plus, as real said, there is no replacement that would be even close to Reyes. 20 triples, 200 hits, 50 steals, 15 home runs, 40 doubles from a shortstop? No available shortstop could even come close.

        • starz31 says:

          and he has been playing gold glove defense in the 2nd half.

        • I agree that we would have a tough time finding a viable replacement for Reyes. I think a move could be made to get a guy like Orlando Cabrera or Edgar Renteria.

          If Murph is moved to 2B, that is a huge upgrade at the 2B position, where we could afford a drop off in production at SS. Santana and Halladay in the same rotation would be devastating.

          He is much better than Sheets and Burnett. CC is probably superior, but will require a Santana-esque contract with questions about his body. That being said, I wouldn’t make any trades like that if the Mets made the postseason. But if they didn’t, I would look to make a major shakeup. Not just Reyes straight up for Halladay. More like Reyes, FMart, and Maine for Halladay and Rios.

        • Chan Ho Parking Lot says:

          I agree that a major shakeup would be needed, but Reyes shouldn’t go anywhere period. It’s not just his production, but his age. He just turned 25. Do you realize how many more productive years he has ahead of him? And take into account that he will probably even improve as he is not even in his prime yet.

        • Danny says:

          How about you just don’t trade Reyes at all?

        • patrick says:

          I see the insanity bug has once again landed at Metsblog.

          First off, why would Toronto if trying to get better trade Halladay whom they are paying relative peanuts?

          Second, it is as likely that the Mets trade Jose Reyes as it is I start opening day at Citi Field on the hill for the Mets.

        • gameball says:

          As likely as Sarah Palin making a charitable donation to Planned Parenthood.

          Seriously! The idea of trading a 25-yo player of Jose’s impact for a pitcher, any pitcher, makes me ill.

        • Halladay is making $14.5MM next season.

          If you agree a major shakeup will be needed, letting your interim manager go wouldn’t qualify as a major shakeup, nor would trading Jon Niese. Major shakeup is Wright, Reyes, or Beltran. Wright and Reyes have the greatest value because of their age and relatively inexpensive contracts.

          I’m not saying I would deal any of those guys, because my preference is to make the playoffs and not have to worry about that (especially because the team’s problem is the bullpen). However, if it is a major shakeup that we are in need of, I wouldn’t trade Reyes unless it was in a package for Halladay. While 31, he is still a stud and an ace.

        • Danny says:

          And then Halladay (who has a history if injury when he was younger) getr hurt and where are you left?

          Pitchers are way too flaky to trade away one of the 5 most valuable position players in ALL of baseball, regardless of age.

          It’s stupid to trade Reyes. The fact he has a great contract is MORE REASON not to trade him.

        • Gina says:

          I agree. And I don’t see why a major shake up is neccessary, The cubs underachieved for years with Lee, Ramirez, and Zambrano, did they trade any of them? No they just went out and got players that made the team better. Why don’t we go out and actually make our team better before we start talking about trading guys.

        • theCoop says:

          While I don’t advocate trading any of the “core three” (Reyes, Wright and Beltran), Beltran would “need” to go out of the three. DW and Reyes are tough to replace. Beltran has a structure of his contract that is pretty cheap, all things considered. Only probs is he’d have to waive his NTC. BUT if he hates NY that much, he may agree to a trade. But still, I think that a major shake up is not necessary — the Mets are competitive and draw a major crowd plus with the new stadium, they may just need ONE more sexy name to bring the crowd out in full, much like Pedro did in 2005. THAT may be the shakeup.

        • Danny,
          Reyes had an injury history when he was younger too.

          Gina,
          With the way last season ended and the possibility of not making the playoffs this season, that would be devastating to the franchise and the fan base. It took most of us all winter to get over last season.

          TheCoop,
          The reasons I don’t think Beltran has as much value are his knees and his contract.

        • Gina says:

          So they should do it just to make fans feel better? That makes more sense. Maybe they should just go out and fill the holes on the team?

        • starz31 says:

          This has gotten ridiculous.

          ” The reasons I don’t think Beltran has as much value are his knees and his contract.”

          his contract? you mean the one where he is paid below market value for being the best CF in the game…yea lets trade that away. many teams would love to gobble up his contract.

          Comparing Reyes and Halladay’s injury history is meaningless. Reyes developed and matured physically since those injury years. Halladay is a pitcher and will always be at risk of recurring or new injuries…especially with leading the league in complete games and already at age 31 (just more potential for injury in the coming years)

      • Dr. Alan Lans says:

        my apologies starz. I didn’t realize your sarcasm…

    • Gina says:

      You’re joking, but I’m sure there are fans who still want to trade him.

      • ksuth says:

        Gina I hope they’re joking. Anyone who seriously thinks Jose will be dealt this offseason has some issues.

        • toomanyuniforms says:

          Well, if they lose the next five, say, I think the team will need to take a look at the core and think about how they can improve. If one of your best trading chips has to be dealt, so be it. I wouldn’t do it, but again, it all depends on the next five days and what would be available in return. If they blow this, NO ONE should be off the table. For Reyes or Wright, though, it would have to be a knock-your-socks-off offer for similar generational talent.

        • Gina says:

          I can understand if a team like Oakland or the Twins did it, but, at least in theory, with our resources we shouldn’t have to do that. I doubt anyone is going to give up major league ready players for Reyes or Wright, if they do it will likely be a lateral move type swap. Unless we plan on using next year as a rebuilding year I don’t see how trading Reyes or Wright would improve this team. Maybe a team 1 year or 2 down the road, but not this team.

        • Gina says:

          And that being said we’d also have to have players ready to at least partially fill their void. As far as I know there’s no one like that at all for Reyes and Murphy/Evans would be the only option for Wright, but then you’re opening up holes else where.

        • Danny says:

          You don’t break up the core. You improve the supporting parts around them. It’s not overly complicated, really.

        • starz31 says:

          thats right danny…you dont trade away core players. If you wouldn’t trade Reyes for Johan, why for Halladay or any other pitcher for that matter?

        • toomanyuniforms says:

          It is a little more complicated than that actually, Danny. If your core players don’t come through over the next five days, sample-size be damned, you have to think about fundamentally changing the makeup of the team. I understand that we can always just scream at the Wilpons to spend more money, and that a lot of people don’t want to discard their expensive Reyes and Wright jerseys, T-shirts and other paraphernalia, but if my entire team is a hangdog loser two years in a row, do I really fundamentally improve the team as a “team” by switching out a few excess, bottom of the order parts?

        • starz31 says:

          “If your core players don’t come through over the next five days”
          that is why I’m glad you are not GM…you don’t base a season off of 5 days worth of stats.

          “do I really fundamentally improve the team as a “team” by switching out a few excess, bottom of the order parts”

          Well you weaken the team by switching out the best CF in MLB, or the best leadoff hitter/ top 3 SS in MLB, or the 2nd best 3B in MLB…

          you DO, however, switch out a 2B who can’t walk w/o pain let alone run, a closer who we don’t have right now, and a set-up man who we dont have right now.

        • Gina says:

          But how do we improve the team, as it is right now, by trading Reyes or Wright? We could trade them for prospects if we were planning on rebuilding, but as far as I can tell you’re talking about improving the team now. Any deal we would make involving them, that brings back major league talent, would likely be a lateral move overall.

        • Gina says:

          Also like I said the cubs didn’t trade, Ramirez/Zambrano/Lee to improve their team. They just went out and got more good players. We’re not saying switch out Luis Castillo for Luis Castillo part II, whoever that is. We’re saying bring in better bullpen arms, better starting pitchers, possibly better outfielders. Thats why I was all for trading for Jason Bay if we could have gotten him for F-mart and/or Niese, which I don’t think we could have.

  3. starz31 says:

    Jose’s kind of a big deal.

  4. Dr. Alan Lans says:

    Question for you Matt – the weather report for the next 4 days dones’t look too good. Do you have any insight on what could happen if we run into back to back rainouts?

    • chicagometfan says:

      back to back rainouts against the Cubs (very small chance) would result in a double header on Monday if necessary to determine playoff spots
      back to back rainouts aginst FL would result in a DH Sunday and a game on Monday if needed

      • shea_guevara says:

        I wonder if they would consider moving the Thursday game to the afternoon, when the likelihood of rain is a lot less. Looking at the weather report, it seems like it’s gonna be hard to get any of these games in from Friday on.

        The only good thing about this is, if it’s raining in NY, there’s a decent chance it’s raining in Philly, thus putting both teams in the same proverbial boat.

    • docgood86 says:

      Move the series to Milwaukee..lol

  5. CaseStreet says:

    Jose is Awesome. I think he pops up too, much with his speed he should be trying to beat grounders, but you can’t argue with 200 hits.

    • hotchipwillbreakyourlegs says:

      I agree that he pop-ups are upsetting, but it might compromise his extra base ability if he tried to hit more balls on the ground. I’m happy with jose being a line drive hitter, because it electrifies this team when he hits a liner to the gap or the corner and starts running.

      Of course, you can’t argue with 36 2B, 19 3B, and 16 HRs, and 67 RBIs.

      Too bad MVP has become “the guy who hits the most HRs.” Not to say Howard doesn’t deserve to be the front-runner, but it’s like you can’t be considered unless you’re in the top 5 in homers and RBIs

  6. danthemanmurphy says:

    when he hit that triple I reacted in the same exact way… claps, fist pumps, and all

  7. johnstearns says:

    Meta note on the text: I love the “by the way” thing Matt is using. Matt, did you get that from your interview with Keith?

  8. mrBill aka DWright says:

    Reyes: MVP

  9. Gina says:

    I still think he’s the mvp of this team.

  10. Dirtysanchez says:

    Lol yea that emotional outburst at 3b was great. Im sure rollins must have gotten upset

  11. IAmKeithHernandez says:

    Great year for Jose, but Lance Johnson’s was a little better. Look up the stats – .333 avg, 21 triples, 117 runs, 69 RBIs, 50 SBs, 12 CS. All with a bad team surrounding him. And he only got 18th in MVP voting!

    • bkfitz says:

      Reyes’ current OPS+ is 123. Johnson’s was 125. So “better” is by 2 points.

      • IAmKeithHernandez says:

        Yeah, I’m not taking anything away from Reyes. He is the best leadoff man in the game. I just think people forget how good Lance was on a really mediocre team.

        • patrick says:

          All due respect King of Mustaches, offensively that Mets team was not entirely mediocre.

          Bernard Gilkey and Todd Hundley had huge seasons.

  12. bkfitz says:

    I like how no one is bashing Reyes for showing up the Cubs after that hit.

    • starz31 says:

      he wasn’t showing up the Cubs (not trying to nitpick) …he was displaying his own joy for a big clutch hit and the relief of tension and frustration in his team.

      people 2 months ago would say he showed up the opposition…but no..he’s being himself, he’s not aiming to insult but to express his intensity.

      Thats what he’s done is whole career and I hate when people (not you, but other teams fans and the media) try to portray him as being over the top. this is what makes him the most exciting player in MLB. And I love every minute of it.

    • Nightlife says:

      What do the Cubs care? They have clinched home field advantage throughout the playoffs– I doubt they were too hurt over that.

  13. zen says:

    reyes is the most important mets player…every year.

    certainly the mets mvp this year.

  14. jamie says:

    I hope he and dwright enter the Hall on the same day

    • therealsince86 says:

      AS METS. You never know around here.

    • patrick says:

      can we just get through Sunday unscathed please, the pendulum swings from doom to hall of fame are a bit much.

      • jamie says:

        talking stuff like this is part of the fun of baseball fandom. My pendulum is pretty steady. Of course the only thing that matters right now is to win tonight’s game, but being a sour-puss every time someone posts somthing not directly related to that comes off as curmodgeon-y and petulant. We all know the Mets need to win games.

  15. NickA33 says:

    I realize that having three possible candidates for MVP would detract from votes for each player, therefore making it easier for other players on other teams to win the award…BUT…How are Reyes or Wright not top on the list for MVP candidate. I mean, their overall numbers are more than solid. Yes, I realize that Howard is hitting the cover off the ball and leading in RBI’s as well. Newsflash, Howard is a beast who, unless otherwise injured, will always hit 35+HRs every season. However, his batting average is below .250 and he leads the league in strike outs!!!

    Below are the stats for Reyes and Wright. Personally, I think Wright deserves the MVP award. His statistics are very, very solid. And he’s got the batting average to back it up. All that and he’s been in a slump for the past week or two. I mean, c’mon, just because he only has 122 RBI’s and only has 33HRs he doesn’t deserve it over Howard? He’s been the most consistent person on this team the entire year.

    Jose Reyes: .300AVG; 109Runs; 200Hits; 362B; 193B (Leads NL); 16HR; 67RBI (as a lead off man); 52SB
    David Right: .300AVG; 113Runs; 183Hits; 422B; 33HR; 122RBI and 15SB

    • zen says:

      reyes is the engine for this team. wright has slumps and is replaced ny delgado or betran. nobody replaced reyes’ production.

      not to mention reyes plays better defense at a more demanding position.

      • NickA33 says:

        I don’t disagree with you and I wouldn’t be upset in the least if Reyes were to win the award. I’m more angry at the fact that Howard is tops on everyone’s list and every stat he has is mediocre, minus his HR count and RBI count.

        MVP should go to the player who has the best overall statistics and is on a playoff team. Playoff being the operative word in that statement.

        Because, I truely believe that Pujols should get the MVP award but the Cardinals are no where near the playoffs. So, if I stick to my believe and remove Pujols from the equation, it should go to Wright/Reyes.

        • Nightlife says:

          I disagree that the player has to be on a playoff team to be MVP.

          But yes, Pujols should win the award hands down. The guy is playing with an elbow that WILL require Tommy John surgery in the near future and has played out of this world.

        • zen says:

          true is none of the mets or phillies deserve the mvp this year. both teams have at least 3 big-time offense players.

          guys like bonds and pujols have done it with very little help over the years except hgh for the former in the last few years.

          i’ll take world series mvp for reyes or wright.

    • Chan Ho Parking Lot says:

      The only thing is, Howard has been on fire in September, and single-handedly propelled his team to the 10-1 run that put them in first place. If the Phils win the division, voters are going to remember that much more than Wright’s quiet consistent season. Just like voters will remember Delgado’s second half and forget about his ineptness in the first.

    • mets227 says:

      Additionally, over the last 14 games, DW is hitting .404 with an OPS of 1.249, scored 13 runs and driven in 17. If he keeps that up for the next 5 and the Mets make the the playoffs (w/o backing in) then he has to be in the top 2/3 for MVP. If he has a “signature” moment in the next 5, then the award is his, IMO. (Reprinted from my own comment on another site.)

      • patrick says:

        who the hell cares about the MVP of the regular season, it means nothing in the grand scheme of things, if Wright drives in 15 runs in the next 5 days and the Mets lose every game it means nothing, if he drives in 5 runs and the Mets win every night, joy.

        If he happens to put the team on his back and rolls out the carpet for the end of the season, good for him.

        • mets227 says:

          I do, particularly in that having the MVP on your team usually correlates to a modicum of success that has been generally rare for the Mets.

          While we root for the team first and foremost, it makes it more fun when you can also root for the individual. I’m a Mets fan, but I am also a Wright and Reyes fan, so yes, I do root for them to achieve honors beyond the teams overall success.

        • Danny says:

          I find it utterly frustrating that the Mets have never won an MVP award.

          The team is generally crapped on by the mainstream media.

        • mets227 says:

          Gibson over Strawberry (2) and McRenoylds (3) is the one that still gets me. I would half buy the two teammate argument were it not for the fact that Bonds and Bonilla finished 1-2, ahead of Strawberry in 1990. Granted, Bonds absolutely should have won it (the fact that Bonilla got the other 1st place vote is a joke), but nonetheless, it shows that you can have a great teammate (or team) and still be the MVP.

  16. Knuckles99 says:

    5 games left. We should only be focused on tonight. Perez vs. Zambrano. Up hill from the start.

  17. isles81 says:

    Off topic – I have a Saturday ticket plan and it looks like my playoff tix are due to be delievered 9/25. Has anyone with a Saturday plan heard what games we’d get, tentatively? I guess they don’t want us to sell the tix so they don’t publish the info, but some people have to make arrangements for the possibility of these games, and I can’t understand why they don’t at least say what games we’ll get, if not the seat locations. Yesterday on the phone I was told the tickets were printed on 9/16, but that there was no way for them to tell me the games or seat locations. Either I got someone lazy on the phone, or it’s been changed, because in past years I called and was at least able to find out which games I was getting.

    • backinbusiness says:

      I have a Sat plan too; when i called they said NLDS HG 1, NLCS HG 2 and 3; WS HG 1

      (i think)

  18. huge_mets_fan11 says:

    OT: I posted this in the Santana thread but you know Lincecum will probably win the Cy Young award because of better number but Johan deserves it more. The Giants have not smelled the playoffs all year so Lincecum has no pressure on him at all. Santana has had so much pressure on him during the second half of the year. He has had to win almost every game he has pitched the last couple of weeks and he has come through big time.

  19. Gasface77 says:

    Off topic, but I am going to be in Washington DC this weekend with my girlfriend. I want to kill myself..haha. Does anybody know of any Mets friendly bars where I may be able to catch the game on Saturday and/or Sunday? Please help. I have the slingbox, but would love to just watch it on TV.

    • metinDC23 says:

      51st State is the only one I know of.

    • toomanyuniforms says:

      Ooh — wish I could be there (I live in DC) but I’ll be in an even worse place: Philly! (Note that not only will I be a Met fan in Philly, but my Chicago Bears — who are eerily similar to the ‘07 Mets thus far this year, with fans screaming at coach Lovie Smith to “show some emotion,” etc. — are going to be gored by the Eagles on national TV. Fun!!!)

  20. mrose says:

    why is noone mentioning that with Big Z and Harden going, there is no chance Lou lets them go much more than 5-6 innings…

  21. rey ordonez says:

    TRADE JOSE, BRING ME BACK

    just kidding, in all seriousness i can’t picture reyes or wright in another jersey, ever. they should be lifers.

    • LL says:

      Completely agree. Any talk of trading these 2 cornerstone pieces of this franchise is just utterly senseless and ridiculous. You guys are bunch of J.A.’s if you think that would benefit the team. Apparently you guys have no idea how lucky we have to have 2 players like Jose and David that came up through our own system.

      If we don’t make the playoffs, it’s not because of them. Get it through your thick heads, it’s because of the bullpen. I don’t know how trading any of our core guys will help our bullpen out. GET A FREAKING CLUE! These guys should be Met Lifers. Learn to love it and appreciate it. You’re missing out big time if you don’t