Comments on: News: Johan Santana is an Ace http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/24/stat-second-half-santana/ MetsBlog.com features the latest Mets rumors, player movement, and news circulating around the Internet, as well as Mets related insights and opinions by Matthew Cerrone and his team of guest bloggers. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:41:19 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: metsmad22 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/24/stat-second-half-santana/#comment-346547 metsmad22 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:37:46 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/23/stat-second-half-santana/#comment-346547 To me, and I am biased, but Johan deserves the Cy Young. Tim Lincecum plays in the worst division in baseball. He plays for a team that has zero pressure. And he isn't playing in NYC after the biggest expectations and the biggest contract for a pitcher. Johan's record should have around 20 wins if not for the NUMEROUS blown saves. And he has NOT LOST in the 2nd half, and to add to that, he has pitched in big game after big game and brought this team back from the depths to a possible playofff birth. I'm sorry but since the object of this game is to score runs and keep your opponent from scoring, and since Johan has done tht better than any NL pitcher, shouldn't get get the Cy Young? To me, and I am biased, but Johan deserves the Cy Young. Tim Lincecum plays in the worst division in baseball. He plays for a team that has zero pressure. And he isn’t playing in NYC after the biggest expectations and the biggest contract for a pitcher. Johan’s record should have around 20 wins if not for the NUMEROUS blown saves. And he has NOT LOST in the 2nd half, and to add to that, he has pitched in big game after big game and brought this team back from the depths to a possible playofff birth. I’m sorry but since the object of this game is to score runs and keep your opponent from scoring, and since Johan has done tht better than any NL pitcher, shouldn’t get get the Cy Young?

]]> By: huge_mets_fan11 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/24/stat-second-half-santana/#comment-346390 huge_mets_fan11 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:00:45 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/23/stat-second-half-santana/#comment-346390 You know Lincecum will probably win the Cy Young award because of better number but Johan deserves it more. The Giants have not smelled the playoffs all year so Lincecum has no pressure on him at all. Santana has had to win almost every game he has pitched the last couple of weeks and he has come through big time. Webb shouldn't get it either because he pitched horribly when the team needed him to the most. The other person that would deserve it is Lidge. You know Lincecum will probably win the Cy Young award because of better number but Johan deserves it more. The Giants have not smelled the playoffs all year so Lincecum has no pressure on him at all. Santana has had to win almost every game he has pitched the last couple of weeks and he has come through big time. Webb shouldn’t get it either because he pitched horribly when the team needed him to the most. The other person that would deserve it is Lidge.

]]> By: racemccloud http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/24/stat-second-half-santana/#comment-346357 racemccloud Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:41:05 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/23/stat-second-half-santana/#comment-346357 You can't discount Brandon Webb and his 22 wins, or Brad Lidge being perfect for the Phils. You can’t discount Brandon Webb and his 22 wins, or Brad Lidge being perfect for the Phils.

]]> By: Coolpapabell http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/24/stat-second-half-santana/#comment-346354 Coolpapabell Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:38:09 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/23/stat-second-half-santana/#comment-346354 Well, I remember hearing Joe Benigo shout about how O.P. is a big game pitcher and Johan isn't. Well, Johan answered the bell. Now lets see what O.P. does tonight. He better have take his Aderole today. Well, I remember hearing Joe Benigo shout about how O.P. is a big game pitcher and Johan isn’t. Well, Johan answered the bell. Now lets see what O.P. does tonight. He better have take his Aderole today.

]]> By: darkstar73 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/24/stat-second-half-santana/#comment-346352 darkstar73 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:37:24 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/23/stat-second-half-santana/#comment-346352 Johan Santana now leads the NL in era, QS%, has a very respectable 1.17 WHIP, nearly 200 Ks, only 60 BBs. While I think Lincecum is still going to win the Cy Young award, Santana is clearly the 2nd best pitcher in the league this year, if not the best, only because he's doing this in games that matter. Johan Santana now leads the NL in era, QS%, has a very respectable 1.17 WHIP, nearly 200 Ks, only 60 BBs. While I think Lincecum is still going to win the Cy Young award, Santana is clearly the 2nd best pitcher in the league this year, if not the best, only because he’s doing this in games that matter.

]]> By: racemccloud http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/24/stat-second-half-santana/#comment-346337 racemccloud Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:30:05 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/23/stat-second-half-santana/#comment-346337 Right. San Fran needs young positional stars, and the Yankees just don't have that to offer. The best bet for the Yanks is the Free Agent market. They have the money and there is an offensive and a pitching star out there to be had. Right. San Fran needs young positional stars, and the Yankees just don’t have that to offer. The best bet for the Yanks is the Free Agent market. They have the money and there is an offensive and a pitching star out there to be had.

]]> By: racemccloud http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/24/stat-second-half-santana/#comment-346335 racemccloud Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:29:09 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/23/stat-second-half-santana/#comment-346335 I would say that you absolutely don't trade Chamberlain, and you shouldn't trade Hughes or Kennedy either, because if they get anything less than Santana for them, that's a huge hit you take. I would say that you absolutely don’t trade Chamberlain, and you shouldn’t trade Hughes or Kennedy either, because if they get anything less than Santana for them, that’s a huge hit you take.

]]> By: patrick http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/24/stat-second-half-santana/#comment-346305 patrick Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:17:09 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/23/stat-second-half-santana/#comment-346305 I would say nothing with high certainty. Remember, the guy starting for the Mets on Friday night was considered crap that the Mets should have dealt by some. I would not say Chamberlain was over hyped or Hughes, one was misused and the other had some freak injuries. Kennedy perhaps over hyped, but young pitchers take longer to develop than position players. I would say nothing with high certainty.

Remember, the guy starting for the Mets on Friday night was considered crap that the Mets should have dealt by some.

I would not say Chamberlain was over hyped or Hughes, one was misused and the other had some freak injuries. Kennedy perhaps over hyped, but young pitchers take longer to develop than position players.

]]> By: patrick http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/24/stat-second-half-santana/#comment-346301 patrick Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:14:36 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/23/stat-second-half-santana/#comment-346301 Well, San Fransisco has a wealth of pitchers and their offense is pretty putrid, so the question is not so much why would they trade Cain, but why for Matsui an aging injured player and Cano. Well, San Fransisco has a wealth of pitchers and their offense is pretty putrid, so the question is not so much why would they trade Cain, but why for Matsui an aging injured player and Cano.

]]> By: My Favorite Baseball Squadron http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/24/stat-second-half-santana/#comment-346291 My Favorite Baseball Squadron Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:10:40 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/09/23/stat-second-half-santana/#comment-346291 Yeah Yankees fans can be pretty delusional with how they value their young talent. They hyped up Joba/Hughes/Kennedy and we saw how they worked out. They believed Melky was a budding star CF...it got so bad they had to bring in probably the worst defensive CF in the AL. Cano has regressed big time and even when he was playing better his work ethic was never stellar. This year they were an old team at nearly every position: C, 1B, SS, 3B (ok so ARod isn't over the hill old and he put up numbers that most other players in the league would shoot themselves full of synthetic hormones to achieve), RF, CF, LF. Point is, it's probably going to get worse before it gets better in the Bronx unless they sign a boatload of young talent that really isn't available. Tex and CC might be on the right side of 30, but they'll be saddled with whatever mega contracts they give them for years well past their respective primes. Regardless of what happens with the Mets this year, I will say with a high degree of certainty that we'll be the more competitive team for the next few years. Yeah Yankees fans can be pretty delusional with how they value their young talent.

They hyped up Joba/Hughes/Kennedy and we saw how they worked out. They believed Melky was a budding star CF…it got so bad they had to bring in probably the worst defensive CF in the AL. Cano has regressed big time and even when he was playing better his work ethic was never stellar.

This year they were an old team at nearly every position: C, 1B, SS, 3B (ok so ARod isn’t over the hill old and he put up numbers that most other players in the league would shoot themselves full of synthetic hormones to achieve), RF, CF, LF. Point is, it’s probably going to get worse before it gets better in the Bronx unless they sign a boatload of young talent that really isn’t available. Tex and CC might be on the right side of 30, but they’ll be saddled with whatever mega contracts they give them for years well past their respective primes.

Regardless of what happens with the Mets this year, I will say with a high degree of certainty that we’ll be the more competitive team for the next few years.

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