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In the Arizona Republic, columnist Nick Piecoro speculates that the D’Backs could look to trade OF Eric Byrnes, though it would be a ‘tough deal.’
Piecoro wonders if the Mets would be interested in acquiring Byrnes, and his two-year, $22 million contract, in exchange for Luis Castillo, who is due to earn $18 million through 2011.
In 2008, Byrnes was derailed by a torn hamstring, however he enjoyed his best overall season in 2007 with career highs in games (160), at-bats (626), batting average (.286), runs (103), hits (179), RBI (83) and steals (50).
…he has been mentioned by analysts in the last few days as one of the those “intense” type of players the mets need on their roster…if the mets move Nick Evans in a deal for pitching, he would be a good fit…and if it is for castillo, i don’t think many mets fans would complain…
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either way this bullpen needs a overhaul.As for byrnes id welcome him .
i would do Byrnes for Castillo easy. also I’d like to add a fighter. one or two who like to brawl and show some fire!
OFF TOPIC
I’ve been looking all over for the postgame ceremony and I know others have too, since I didn’t get to see it. On mets.com it now says “download the complete shea finale” from itunes ($1.99). when you go to itunes it looks like it’s the game, wondering if anyone DLed it yet and can say if it includes the ceremony.
So, I posted this up above, but it deserves a mention: in another conversation about how Byrnes would fit in with Church and/or Murphy, a fellow poster mentioned that Mike Franny claimed today that he had a good source who was telling him that Church HATES the Mets and wants to get the hell out of here. I was sure that I had read earlier in the year the exact opposite. So, one simple Google search proved that I was right and Francesca, again, wrong.
This is from the Daily News, 8/23/08:
“Church revealed that his wife Tina was driven to tears by the standing ovation the Shea faithful gave before his first at-bat in Friday’s 1-for-3 return. The hard-nosed Church said the fans’ embrace cemented his desire to spend the rest of his career in Flushing. He’s even open to signing a long-term contract now to wipe away his arbitration years. Church won’t be a free agent until after the 2011 season.”
Mike Francesca is a clueless idiot.
Stating the obvious.
Not only is he an idiot, but a clueless one at that.
haha nicely done… Mike Francesa’s sources are the back of a Devil Dog’s box.
You know, I keep reading comments about Huston Street like he’s some kind of elite closer. Truth is, Street had a mediocre year (his numbers are buoyed a bit by a good last month), lost his job as the Oakland closer, and showed an alarming dip in velocity for much of the season. Street isn’t a guy you want to give up a lot for right now.
Look, he’s still a lot better than the loads we have out in the pen, but I’d be cautious before I gave up too much for Street. I’d worry about arm trouble. He had a couple of horrendous stretches this year.
I know this is a crazy time and I believe we’ll all get through it. But when you start debating yourself about Huston Street on metsblog after midnight, it’s probably a sign to call it a day and hit the hay.
“Ok, you know what I mean?”
I’m just so lonely…
But a fair point.
I actually was the one who mentioned AJ and Byrnes to Evan today and he was nice enough to credit me on the air.
Its funny to read the expectation level on Evans. You people need to get serious.
Byrnes is not a superstar but he is the role type player we are looking for.
If they were to bring in Byrnes and AJ I would then go get a big bat for 1st base
btw I am the same person who was begging the Mets to get Nelson Cruz from Texas this summer. I mentioned it numerous times on this blog. Many of you laughed and dismissed it, despite the fact 95% of you probably couldnt pick him out of a lineup. Go look at his numbers and tell me his bat wouldnt have helped down the stretch
The Mets need to deal these players straight up or in combos:
Delgado
Fmart
Heilman
Schoenwiess
Castillo
Church(ONLY if he truly is unhappy here)
Scheineder
Most of those players, especially in a package have value
Other players of interest:
AJ
Byrnes
Crede
Mora
I would see how Murphy does at 2nd in winter ball. If he can handle it then he has the job and Reyes gets to be his caddy.
The Mets need a power bat and grit along with a pen.
A left fielder or 1b mist be the power guy. and the other must be that grit guy. Or maybe we can find a power guy who can lead/gritty
Wright and Reyes get one more year. If they do not step up and become leaders and take over and the Mets dont show up next year then it is time to deal one of them. I do not think we will have to because I believe that they both will overcome this obstacle.
Omar better step up this year. I want to see him make a trade that changes this team. Thats his job. I dont care who he signs. I want him to work that trade market and come up with a player or who will get this team over the hump. If he doesnt he needs to go.
and I dont mean a super star player. Any Gmr can go out and sign or trade for a star. I want to see Omar get crafty and trade for a guy under everyones radar. Show me something Omar.
So far I have seen Omar get fleeced on most of his trades.
Please dont bring up Olly because the only reason Olly was here is because of Sanchez. Plus if Olly is that good of a steal then they better sign him.
Explain how he was fleeced on the following?
Kris Benson for John Maine and Jorge Julio?
Gaby Hernandez and Dante Brinkley for Paul LoDuca?
Yusmiero Petit, Mike Jacobs and Grant Psomas for Carlos Delgado?
A fleet of nothing and Carlos Gomez for Johan Santana?
Can you please show the fleecings? And if your support of fleecing is Health Bell, just stop and go talk more with Evan.
AJ? You mean “AJ Burnett”? I thought I heard that he was not interested in coming to NY.
No, AJ Pierzinski and Byrnes….I brought it up to Evan and he was nice enough to credit me on air
Anything to get Luis Castillo out of here, right? You’d have to think even if it’s not the Mets getting Orlando Huson, there’s a good chance Arizona loses him. What makes anyone think the Diamondbacks GM is convinced Luis Castillo is capable of being a starting 2B? Not just would the Mets have to pay all of Byrnes contract to get this done, but probably at least 1/3 of Castillo’s. And if that’s the case, I’m alright with with. It’d be the equivalent of signing Eric Byrnes to a 2 yr/10MM deal. Byrnes is injury prone so I can see Arizona wanting to get rid of him. They may want to give him another chance so they don’t have to feel so bad about losing Carlos Quentin though.
If I were the Mets, I’d see if we can pull off Jon Rauch. He didn’t do well in Arizona last year. He had success over in the NL East and he throws hard so maybe the Mets can get him back on track.
Offer Luis Castillo (Mets eat 6MM of it) , Nick Evans, Aaron Heilman and Duaner Sanchez or Ambiorix Burgos to Arizona for Eric Byrnes and Jon Rauch. They may bite. With Byrnes in LF, the Mets wouldn’t really need Evans so much. And if Murphy were to slide over to second, the move would really good. Pagan and Chavez can back up in the OF, Argenis Reyes can be the back up middle IF and they can sign back one of Tatis or Easley.
With Angel Pagan can healthy too, he’d be able to serve as the lefty hitter off the bench. And righty against lefty too. It’s obvious Marlon Anderson’s become obsolete to the Mets at this point so I’d either just cut him or try trading him somewhere.
angel pagan is destined to be the victor diaz/ tim corcoran of 08/09 was here in a flash and was gone just as fast
YEEEES bring Byrnesy to new york. I effin’ love that guy. one of my favorite players in the game. and i think us met fans are over castillo.
The main concern is the bullpen. That and signing Oliver Perez. Than what to do about second base. We didn’t lose because of our revolving door in 2B or LF. Daniel Murphy and Nick Evans were a large part of the reason why we ever were this close. The Mets will figure out what they’ll do with the Luis Castillo situation, but it’s obvious the bullpen issue is much more important to address. I don’t think the Mets will want to see Easley come back again after seeing his body give out late in the year two years in a row. Plus, he may just retire. So second base still is a question, don’t get me wrong.
I’d be really angry if Hudson were our second basemen with Duaner, Show and a bunch of nobody’s setting up ball games though. I want to see the Mets get one of Joe Biemel, Will Ohman and Dennys Reyes. I also want to see them get one of Juan Cruz, Brian Shouse and David Weathers. Along with signing one of K-Rod or Fuentes. We can do all this without trading F-Mart, Niese or Parnell for question-market closers like Street or Putz.
Use the FA market as best you can to make the bullpen as best as it can be. Once we get through that, than we can worry about our position players. An important need is to resolve the Oliver Perez situation. My hunch is that he’s back at like 4 years for 48 million which I’m alright with. If it’s not him, I’d like to see Lowe or Lohse here. Otherwise, we’re in trouble.
Forget Sabathia, Burnett, Dempster or Sheets. Forget Manny Ramirez. All those things are not going to happen because it’d prevent the Mets from addressing the main need: the bullpen.
Don’t all of you remember late January last year when we were happy about the Johan trade? Like we believed it’d be different than the year before? Johan may have replaced Glavine, but did we get a different result? No. Why? Because Heilman turned into Mota and everyone else went along with him.
If Manny Ramirez is our starting LF, we’ll be right back where we are. Except Houston will take care of us in the last weekend of the season, not the Marlins.
One guy doesn’t solve the problem. Whether it be Manny or Burnett. K-Rod would mean much more than those two because he’d address the most important need. We still wouldn’t be good enough with just K-Rod or Fuentes alone. We need more. We need a team. Not an individual. That means create a cohesive unit in the 7th and 8th innings.
Signing C.C. sure would make us good - but it wouldn’t solve the bullpen woes. We’d burn Santana and Sabathia’s arms out to the point they’d have nothing left down the stretch. Spend wisely and good things will happen. This is why I don’t know if I can trust Omar because I don’t think he’s ever been this kind of GM. He’s more like the guy who gets superstars and scrappy guy’s who can plug in gaps.
So if any of you like Manny Ramirez jerseys over wins by the bullpen, than you should at your criticism of Omar more carefully. I’d prefer to not be able to wear the jersey of the splashes the make on the FA market this season. Unless of course Biemel gets to the All-Star game.
Very nicely said. 2B is a void we need to fill, but the bullpen is the single most imporant issue.
One of the issues that we’ve had for a while, though, is that we just can never seem to have many starters that will go deep into games. That will hurt a bullpen on matter how good they are, though it’s no excuse for failure. Fixing the bullpen is key, but we also need to keep in the backs of our minds that we need more innings-eaters in the rotation. Honestly, I like Oliver Perez, but he throws too many pitches to be able to go deep in the game very often. If he’ll come back for the 4/48 that you opined, then I’d take it, but if he costs anymore than that let him go and get someone that goes deep.
i second that - yeah our ability to score runs wasn’t there in the later inningsbut even if the pen did’t blow 4 less games - we woulda been in the playoffs - consider this we shoulda been up by at least 5 games the last week but u know woulda shoulda coulda yadayadayada…
Getting Byrnes would merely be taking one average ball player over a horrible one. People will want to him to get back to his ”2006 form” just like the Mets. I just know know if this is the kind of guy you can depend on. He actually has an interesting character. I think he’d have a good time in New York if he were doing well. I think he’d be one of the most miserable players if he weren’t though. And he’d show his emotion even though he has that laid back California style. Than again, isn’t that what people thought of Mike Piazza too though?
Throwing a healthy Byrnes in the 7 hole playing LF can turn out to be a good thing because the Mets expectations won’t be all that high. Kind of like Nady when we got him. Maybe he can suprise us if we can pull it off.
Does anyone else think that Brian Roberts would be a great fit at second base, his name is always being thrown around in the trade rumors, Why not try and go after him. I think if he wouldnt cost too much Omar should deffinetely call up Baltimore.
isn’t roberts range just as bad as castillio’s? i’d love his bat but alas i don;t see him as a impact player
I think Angelos is widely regarded as one of the most difficult owners to deal wtih …. Roberts was supposed to go to Seattle, then the Cubs but Peter interfered both times. After losing on the Maine deal Angelos with be even more difficult than normally. Offensively, it would be a nice addition.
Came in late on this one. But can someone please tell me what the hell Nick Evans being dealt for pitching has to do with Byrnes? Does anyone out there think that we were going to start him in LF? Anyone? Come on.
people are acting as if rome is burning therealsince - people are acting like nero fiddling whilst rome is burning - u know the ultimate knee jerk reactions like last year
I understand that and I understand the need to go with youth. However, Evans is a bench player at best. To go into next season with him as the lone LF would be worse than resigning Alou.
by the way guys i don’t think heilman will be traded - i believe since he is arbi eligable he will be a cheap alternative to some of the arms out there plus it is possible that he played through injuries like scho did in 07 and looper did in 05 the disintergration of heilman is first and foremost in my head but is it possible that it was just a bad year???
It may be that he had a bad year and will recover next season. But the negative air in the bullpen has to change and it has to start with Heilman. It’s not that I don’t like him but there is just too much history.
In arbitation:
Heilman: I want two million next year.
Minaya: How about three bucks and a pop tart?
Arbitrator: Make it two pop tarts and I’ll rule in your favor.
I almost spit out my coffee…hilarious!!!
Is anyone else going to be at work watching gamecast and hoping Prince Fielder and CC Sabathia can either beat the Phillies or sit on Shane Victorino?
Well according to Mike Francesa’s theory the Twins now have to break up their core of Mauer, Morneau, and Nathan.
I honestly cant believe Mets fans would actually even debate this. I dont care if we get the Eric Byrnes that just sits in the booth and says funny things like he has done for FOX baseball the past couple of years! Getting rid of Castillo is a priority, period. He is not going to play here and trust me that he wont be happy sitting on the bench for the next three years collecting money. He will become a malcontent and really hurt this team even worse than if we actually sent him to the plate 4 times a night. If Arizona calls and says would you like to do this, and Omar even hesitates, he should be fired on the spot…or better yet at three in the morning on a west coast road trip! If someone wants Luis, and offers anything at all, take it.
Still no one has answered this question
“if the mets move Nick Evans in a deal for pitching, he would be a good fit…”
What does Nick Evans have to do with obtaining a STARTING LF?