I’d rather be a Met’s fan than a Philthy fan any day of the week

eat me.

and some gold “gangsta teeth”

I’m high on Molina too. I would bat Murph 8th tho with his eye and discipline.

At first glance I thought “not bad”. But I think people tend to overvalue the type of player Rowand is. I mean he plays hard, but did his presence really help the Giants in ‘08? And his numbers are similar to Church and he played all year. Do you think the Mets would be willing to take on that much money in ‘09? I hope they do, but your scenario adds about $30 million in payroll. If the Mets were to increase payroll by $30 million plus this year, I would:

sign K-Rod ($15 million)
sign CC ($20 million)
sign Lowe ($14 million)
sign Cruz or another reliever ($4 million)

Basically, you are adding $53 million in this scenario, and removing $27 million for a net increase of $26 million. You leave the lineup alone, as it was very good for most of the year. You leave all of your prospects in place, and recoup the draft picks lost by letting Ollie go. You fix the back end of the bullpen, and let the current back end fight for the other five spots, along with some minor leaguers. Heilman and Sanchez are bound to get better, and Schoenweis wasn’t all that bad. Plus, you now have four 200 inning pitchers in the rotation, and a healthy Maine gave them 191 in ‘08. You could even move Maine into the pen if Niese is ready.

its a dirty lineup but again…manny, krod and lowe might be too much….id absolutely love it but i dont think it can be done

Cause Church is cheaper and schneider is younger

Isn’t Lowe a type B? cause the only type A’s I had in mind we’re K-Rod and Manny.

You know I get your point as you have continued to argue it over the course of the week. I am not sure what you say is exactly true. Do you have any material that backs it up?

If what you say is true, it ends up hurting the players in it would prohibit them to have every team bidding for their services. My main point is say the Mets sign 2 type A free agents early on. They then decide they want that third type A free agent. The PA would certainly want the Mets to have the opportunity to big on the third type A free agent because it drives salary up.

As far as the draft picks I am not sure how it would work out but I am sure it may include the draft 2 years down the road.

I am not necessarily disagreeing with you, I am just doing some in-depth thinking and trying to find any material that backs it up and cannot find it.

Honestly, I think the Giants would make out on that trade. I know everyone loves Rowand, but look at the stats, Church was better in less time. Yes, Molina is an upgrade over Schneider, but Schneider calls a great game. The Giants would be saving a ton of money and get out of an iffy contract in Rowand. If I’m the Mets, I don’t do that trade, as you’d have to move Rowand out of position, and while he would be better in the Mets lineup, he wouldn’t be an improvement over Church. We need to shore up second base and the rotation, not right field and catcher.

the giants aren’t like the pirates ( looking to get fleeced by the yankee’s) the giants look to sign aging stars to bad contracts (see mets - new york)

GO BREWERS!

amen! they thought they are the greatest team and they coasted against the brewers and the phils, and played us hard enough to split the series. karma is a b!tch.