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	<title>Comments on: Buzz: Angels not Gung-Ho about K-Rod</title>
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		<title>By: TilMetsDoUsPart</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/08/buzz-angels-not-gung-ho-about-k-rod/#comment-370277</link>
		<dc:creator>TilMetsDoUsPart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 21:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The TMDUP Plan for survival:
Trade:

Carlos Delgado (while eating a little contract) to Angels for Jose Arredondo

(Angels need offense, namely a DH, have great farm system and pitching staff already)

Mike Carp, Dylan Owen &amp; Scott Moviel for Brian Roberts

(The O&#039;s may not agree to an extension with Roberts, in which case they&#039;ll trade him for prospects.)



Sign:

AJ Burnett to 4 year contract worth $54 million OR Derrek Lowe to 2 yaer contract worth $20 million
Juan Cruz to 2 year contract worth $9 million
Arthur Rhodes to 1 year contract worth $1.2 million
Cliff Floyd to 1 year, $2 million contract
Rocco Baldelli to 1 yaer, $1.2 million
Mark Prior to 1 year contract worth $800,000


Lineup: Reyes, Roberts, Wright, Beltran, Floyd/Baldelli (LF), Church, Murphy/Evans (1B), Castro/Schneider

Rotation: Santana, Pelfrey, Burnett/Lowe, Maine, Niese

Bullpen: Arredondo, Cruz, Kunz, Parnell, Smith, Feliciano, Rhodes

To be quite honest I think we&#039;d still have more offense than we had last year despite trading Delgado, we have improve defense, and a very improved bullpen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The TMDUP Plan for survival:<br />
Trade:</p>
<p>Carlos Delgado (while eating a little contract) to Angels for Jose Arredondo</p>
<p>(Angels need offense, namely a DH, have great farm system and pitching staff already)</p>
<p>Mike Carp, Dylan Owen &amp; Scott Moviel for Brian Roberts</p>
<p>(The O&#8217;s may not agree to an extension with Roberts, in which case they&#8217;ll trade him for prospects.)</p>
<p>Sign:</p>
<p>AJ Burnett to 4 year contract worth $54 million OR Derrek Lowe to 2 yaer contract worth $20 million<br />
Juan Cruz to 2 year contract worth $9 million<br />
Arthur Rhodes to 1 year contract worth $1.2 million<br />
Cliff Floyd to 1 year, $2 million contract<br />
Rocco Baldelli to 1 yaer, $1.2 million<br />
Mark Prior to 1 year contract worth $800,000</p>
<p>Lineup: Reyes, Roberts, Wright, Beltran, Floyd/Baldelli (LF), Church, Murphy/Evans (1B), Castro/Schneider</p>
<p>Rotation: Santana, Pelfrey, Burnett/Lowe, Maine, Niese</p>
<p>Bullpen: Arredondo, Cruz, Kunz, Parnell, Smith, Feliciano, Rhodes</p>
<p>To be quite honest I think we&#8217;d still have more offense than we had last year despite trading Delgado, we have improve defense, and a very improved bullpen.</p>
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		<title>By: JNGordon</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/08/buzz-angels-not-gung-ho-about-k-rod/#comment-370191</link>
		<dc:creator>JNGordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 19:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two more words, Albert Bell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two more words, Albert Bell</p>
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		<title>By: JNGordon</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/08/buzz-angels-not-gung-ho-about-k-rod/#comment-370190</link>
		<dc:creator>JNGordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 19:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fully agree with stretching Heilman out in Spring Training to see if he ca either rehabilitate his trade value as a starter, or possibly compete as a fifth starter. Wathc him go to the Cardinals who will make him a serviceable starter.

As far as F-Rod is concerned, the Mets already have an abundance of pitchers who can give up late inning homeruns in key situations for a lot less $$$</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fully agree with stretching Heilman out in Spring Training to see if he ca either rehabilitate his trade value as a starter, or possibly compete as a fifth starter. Wathc him go to the Cardinals who will make him a serviceable starter.</p>
<p>As far as F-Rod is concerned, the Mets already have an abundance of pitchers who can give up late inning homeruns in key situations for a lot less $$$</p>
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		<title>By: just-mlb</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/08/buzz-angels-not-gung-ho-about-k-rod/#comment-370050</link>
		<dc:creator>just-mlb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 17:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>look at the split stats for feliciano and show...they held lefties to under B/A around .189

Righties hit like .800 against them

for the record, show had no business pitching to a righty in the 8th inning of an elimination game...

i know u will throw tomatoes at me but Heillman or Joe Smith should have come on at that point</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>look at the split stats for feliciano and show&#8230;they held lefties to under B/A around .189</p>
<p>Righties hit like .800 against them</p>
<p>for the record, show had no business pitching to a righty in the 8th inning of an elimination game&#8230;</p>
<p>i know u will throw tomatoes at me but Heillman or Joe Smith should have come on at that point</p>
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		<title>By: just-mlb</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/08/buzz-angels-not-gung-ho-about-k-rod/#comment-369997</link>
		<dc:creator>just-mlb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Omar HASNT proven he can find a diamond in the rough???

Trading Benson for Maine = diamond in the rough

I could STOP here...but for extra measure...

Trading Cameron for Nady = diamond in the rough
Trading Nady for Perez = diamond in the rough
Drafting Murphy= diamond in the rough
Drafting Evans  = diamond in the rough
Signing Easley = diamond in the rough
Drafting J.Smith = diamond in the rough

You can make an argument for Tatis/Ayala/Stokes as being good reclamation projects as well...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Omar HASNT proven he can find a diamond in the rough???</p>
<p>Trading Benson for Maine = diamond in the rough</p>
<p>I could STOP here&#8230;but for extra measure&#8230;</p>
<p>Trading Cameron for Nady = diamond in the rough<br />
Trading Nady for Perez = diamond in the rough<br />
Drafting Murphy= diamond in the rough<br />
Drafting Evans  = diamond in the rough<br />
Signing Easley = diamond in the rough<br />
Drafting J.Smith = diamond in the rough</p>
<p>You can make an argument for Tatis/Ayala/Stokes as being good reclamation projects as well&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: just-mlb</title>
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		<dc:creator>just-mlb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>everyone knows why people cling to Nick Evans...

same reason everyone clings to Murphy/Wright/Church

I, for one, like all 4 players and if Murphy and Evans CONTINUE to develop, I would love to see an infield of Wright Reyes Murphy Evans

However, it is pretty clear that there are people here that give a lil extra special love to certain players...

( I think Wilmer Flores may be a dark-horse candidate for 1B in the future though )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>everyone knows why people cling to Nick Evans&#8230;</p>
<p>same reason everyone clings to Murphy/Wright/Church</p>
<p>I, for one, like all 4 players and if Murphy and Evans CONTINUE to develop, I would love to see an infield of Wright Reyes Murphy Evans</p>
<p>However, it is pretty clear that there are people here that give a lil extra special love to certain players&#8230;</p>
<p>( I think Wilmer Flores may be a dark-horse candidate for 1B in the future though )</p>
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		<title>By: just-mlb</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/08/buzz-angels-not-gung-ho-about-k-rod/#comment-369963</link>
		<dc:creator>just-mlb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Willie,

You can replace Jay Horowitz in the PR department

I can imagine the silent press conferences that would go down.

Willie is the baseball version of George W. Bush</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Willie,</p>
<p>You can replace Jay Horowitz in the PR department</p>
<p>I can imagine the silent press conferences that would go down.</p>
<p>Willie is the baseball version of George W. Bush</p>
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		<title>By: BBmetsfreak36</title>
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		<dc:creator>BBmetsfreak36</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no to peavy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no to peavy</p>
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		<title>By: vwrook</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/08/buzz-angels-not-gung-ho-about-k-rod/#comment-369916</link>
		<dc:creator>vwrook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;NOTHING against the dominicans,whom i think are the most talented players in the world,but not always the better TEAM players.&quot;

-I&#039;d say thats sayin SOMETHING against the dominicans?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;NOTHING against the dominicans,whom i think are the most talented players in the world,but not always the better TEAM players.&#8221;</p>
<p>-I&#8217;d say thats sayin SOMETHING against the dominicans?</p>
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		<title>By: therealsince86</title>
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		<dc:creator>therealsince86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 14:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would as$ume that for Peavy it would take Fmart, Niese, Murphy, and Maine?  Fmart, Niesee and Murphy is not enough and we really don&#039;t have anyone else to trade.  I am not sure Kunz swings it.  Maybe they would view him as a potential closer replacement?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would as$ume that for Peavy it would take Fmart, Niese, Murphy, and Maine?  Fmart, Niesee and Murphy is not enough and we really don&#8217;t have anyone else to trade.  I am not sure Kunz swings it.  Maybe they would view him as a potential closer replacement?</p>
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