Ted Berg

Buzz: Mets taking calls on Beltran?
By Ted Berg - Oct 10, 2008 11:17 am

On Wednesday’s episode of NY Baseball Digest with Mike Silva, Frank Russo of The Deadball Era suggested a possible deal between the Mets and Yankees involving Carlos Beltran, Robinson Cano and Ian Kennedy.

Steve Lombardi posted the rumor on WasWatching.com and analyzed the deal.

In turn, Rob Neyer linked to Lombardi’s post on his blog at ESPN.com and weighed in on it.

Russo did cite a source in saying Beltran could be available, but the potential deal with the Yankees was speculation. In fact, Russo was careful to temper any rumors of a Beltran trade, saying:

“Carlos Beltran apparently is on the block. I don’t want to say that he is on the block, but let’s put it this way: They are accepting, I don’t want to say offers, but they’re accepting inquiries… Omar is accepting inquiries about Beltran. He will deny it, and that’s fine, but my mole told me that he has spoken to several scouts, some people within other organizations, and they all told him that Beltran would probably be the one to be moved if any of the core was to be moved. And I don’t want to include Delgado in that core…

“Now, this is an interesting trade I heard: A Yankee trade between the Yankees and the Mets, think about this. Robbie Cano, another member of the bullpen — either Veres and/or Bruney, Kennedy and possibly another one of the prospects from Scranton-Wilkes Barre or below, to the Mets for Carlos Beltran.”

Silva, Russo, Lombardi and Neyer all do exceptional work, and this is the perfect example of how speculation can innocently become internet rumor.

Russo essentially reported only that his source spoke to people that said the Mets are more likely to trade Beltran than David Wright or Jose Reyes and from that speculated about a possible deal for Cano. In only two steps, it reached ESPN.com as “a juicy rumor.”

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307 Comments

Comment by Cactus
2008-10-10 11:19:45

Are you sure it wasn’t Beltran’s mole that told him this info?

Comment by onteora
2008-10-10 11:23:26

seriously…i like how the idiot covers his tracks by saying “omar will deny it”…the deal with the yankees he talks about might be stupider than the general concept of trading wright or reyes

overall production in CF has dwindled significantly in recent years making beltran even more valuable…people need to look past his contract and realize he is one of the best two players at his position (sizemore)

he’s not gonig anywhere

Comment by ravi3
2008-10-10 11:48:19

Now unless it was Beltran for Cano/Joba, or Cano/Kennedy (as a starting point) it might be SOMEWHAT believable. Maybe

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Comment by ravi3
2008-10-10 11:49:13

When I said Cano/Kennedy, I meant Cano/Hughes

 
Comment by dave27
2008-10-10 12:15:16

Except Hughes was overhyped from the start and Cano plays two months a season.

This is beyond inane.

 
Comment by Dr. Alan Lans
2008-10-10 13:30:15

No disrespect to Frank Russo - but - who is he exactly and what sources does he have to suggest this?

Guess I’ll get started on my own blog, throw out inane trade proposals that I pull out from my behind and get my ideas aired on the radio.

 
 
Comment by jdsnakes
2008-10-10 11:58:57

WFAN Host Richard Neir was on last nite(Not sure of the spelling of his last name) and said it was a great trade for the Mets…That commet alone shows that he knows nothing about Baseball or he is a big time Yankee fan…Beltran for Cano, Kennedy, Some bullpen guy & a prospect????…Come on Richard, this would go down as the worst robbery of all time

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Comment by Andrew
2008-10-10 12:06:27

Neer.

 
Comment by beltran the warrior
2008-10-10 13:07:54

neer is a met fan. this trade would be the dumbest deal ever.

 
Comment by jdsnakes
2008-10-10 13:28:07

Then he must be a dumb Met fan

 
Comment by metsfrenzy
2008-10-10 14:20:34

I agree. Beltran is finally fitting in and consistent. we know the numbers he is going to produce. Why would we screw around with this-probably why it would happen.

Maybe we can get Juan Samuel to play CF or better yet - a new home for Luis Castillo!

 
Comment by Felonious Monk
2008-10-11 06:30:26

I think you really want George Foster. ;)

But seriously, Beltran was pretty much solid from the right side. He didn’t seem right batting lefty this season and that brought his average down a lot. Otherwise, he had one of his better years.

 
 
Comment by 4JoeOrsulak
2008-10-10 12:28:53

People also should realize that his contract is a bargain. Compare it to Orlando Hudson, who would want just $3M less per year.

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Comment by KingAlexander14
2008-10-10 13:50:31

beltran has a full no trade clause. so he is not going anywhere unless he approves it .

 
Comment by jimyager
2008-10-10 14:16:50

I heard a trade rumor on ESPN that the BreCrew would be interested in Pedro, Heilman and Show for CC? I SAY GO FOR IT !!!!!!

 
 
Comment by stewart0329
2008-10-10 14:00:07

There isn’t one player on the Yankees that I would want and that includes Joba. You don’t trade an every day player for a pitcher. and especially for Joba. Joba has not proven himself. And then who would play center field for the Mets?

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Comment by SovereignRonnie
2008-10-10 19:12:52

Endy Chavez?

(ducks)

 
Comment by Felonious Monk
2008-10-11 06:35:28

You could get away with that if you had a couple of sluggers in the corner OF spots and, say, Jeff Kent and Mike Piazza (in their primes) filling some of the other traditionally weak offensive positions. Then you can live with a guy like Endy in CF every day. But this team needs a CF who can produce runs.

Also, as long as Reyes is here and batting leadoff, it further diminishes the need for Endy in the lineup. For better or for worse, Endy is best suited as an extra on this team. I’d love to see him play every day because he’s easily the most entertaining defensive player I’ve seen, but they would need to upgrade so much around him in order for that to work. Can you really build a team around Endy Chavez??

 
 
 
Comment by Boscov
2008-10-10 11:53:47

Nice one, Cactus. You threw down the alley-oop with authority.

 
Comment by jonas22
2008-10-10 12:05:39

Haha! thats the first thing i thought of when i read that….umm mole probably isn’t a good metaphor to use in this situation…

 
Comment by BiggieSmalls
2008-10-10 13:22:25

any rumor involving the Mets trading a core piece to the Yankees is complete bunk.

The fact that it includes Robinson Cano - a player reviled in Yankeedom - and Ian “all hype and NO wins” Kennedy makes it not worth the bits it takes up in cyberspace.

 
Comment by Dr. Alan Lans
2008-10-10 13:26:41

Horrible, horrible trade proposal. If you’re going to make up trades, at least make them credible. Cano is a dog and Kennedy isn’t even as good as Pelfry. No way, no how.

PS - who plays center?

Comment by SovereignRonnie
2008-10-10 19:14:09

Daniel Murphy? Evidently kid can play anywhere.

(ducks again)

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Comment by brukbowr
2008-10-10 16:26:07

cactus:
well said sir , well said.

 
Comment by Dr. Alan Lans
2008-10-10 17:36:55

Ted - you didn’t do enough to discredit this unsubstantiated rumor. Shame of you for giving this garbage more legs…

 
 
Comment by DAG
2008-10-10 11:20:13

speculation or rumor, i wouldn’t do it.

Comment by HOFMets57
2008-10-10 11:32:32

What if it was Beltran for Joba and Marte?

Comment by DAG
2008-10-10 12:46:19

do that in a second, but the yankees never would.

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Comment by Danny
2008-10-10 11:21:34

Beltran for Cano and Kennedy? LOL

There isn’t a chance in hell this is remotely true. Nice try Yankee fans.

Comment by Ceetar
2008-10-10 11:25:53

yeah. exactly.

Throw in Joba and Marte and we’ll talk. you can keep Kennedy.

Comment by Dr. Alan Lans
2008-10-10 13:27:49

Joba, Nady and Hughes..ok let’s talk…

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Comment by jdsnakes
2008-10-10 11:51:31

Only if Omar is really working for the Yankees would he do that trade…one of the worst trade proposal ever

 
 
Comment by Old Backstop
2008-10-10 11:22:26

The thing is, professionals in the industry need to have more sense than this guy appears to have. How on Earth would the Mets make such a horrific trade? If you are going to float trade possibilities, at least make it something that even a bad fantasy league owner would approve.

Comment by DjDeF
2008-10-10 12:47:27

maybe we can try and employ that concept in the comments section as well.

Comment by rogasm
2008-10-10 12:57:46

I completely agree with you. I really think Matt should make commentors be “approved” before they can post…like Deadspin.

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Comment by Boscov
2008-10-10 13:25:47

Just a note to Matt, and all the Metsblog contributors,

Why even post something like this? It’s not even a credible, valid rumor. Is every internet rumor going to be posted on thsi website just so 180 comments can be attached? It’s ridiculous. If the Mets are rumored to be sending Castillo and Church to San Diego for Peavy will you post it?

Please guys, I know you still need the attention in the off season but don’t resolve to this nonsense. I would hope you guys could start weeding out the nonsense from the legit speculation.

Comment by Dr. Alan Lans
2008-10-10 13:32:59

Yeah I heard that from one my better sources - Castillo to San Diego for Peavy.. I like Peavy - a lot….

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Comment by itsmetsforme
2008-10-10 14:31:02

i think GEICO’s stock just crashed with this posting. Ted think of the economy!!

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Comment by itsmetsforme
2008-10-10 14:27:52

Hey OB, long time no see.

This trade is unthinkable. Never mind the trading partner and the substandard haul that is being thrown around, just on its fundamentals, this trade would possibly be worse than K*zmir and Milledge trades COMBINED for sheer stupidity.

It would be the last straw for me with Omar. It would show once and for all he has absolutely no plan and is just a gambler with a fat wallet.