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John Shea of the San Francisco Chronicle looks at the impending free agency of C.C. Sabathia and provides odds for several teams interested in landing the left-hander.
Shea lists the Dodgers as the favorite (5-to-2), noting Sabathia desire to play on the West Coast, while giving the Mets and Yankees 4-to-1 odds to acquire Sabathia.
Last week, Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com gave the Mets a 6-to-1 chance of signing Sabathia, behind the Yankees and Angels.
Sabathia was 17-10 with a 2.70 ERA over 253.0 IP in 35 starts for the Brewers and Indians this season.
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here is what i hope omar does this offseason:
Send Fernando Martinez, Aaron Heilman, and Ramon Castro to the Padres for Adrian Gonzalez. Gonzalez is a 26 year old cleanup hitter who hit over .300 on the road last year and plays Gold Glove defense. The Padres want to cut payroll, add a back up catcher and bullpen arm, so this package would make sense for them.
Trade Carlos Delgado, Scott Schoenweis and cash to the Jays for B.J. Ryan. K-Rod will demand to large a commitment and it looks like the Jays would like the move Ryan’s contract. Delgado gives them a clean up hitter.
Complete the already talked about Luis Castillo for Eric Byrnes swap. Unwanted for unwanted, but Byrnes would be a nice bat to spell Murphy or Church in the corners agaisnt lefties.
Sign C.C. Sabathia, Orlando Hudson, Dan Wheeler, Darren Oliver, Felipe Lopez, and Fernando Tatis. Sabathia is worth the risk. No staff in baseball could match Johan-C.C.-Pelfrey-Maine. Hudson is a perfect fit at 2B. Wheeler has been a steady set-up man and can even close if need be. Oliver would give us a third lefty arm in the pen behind Ryan and Feliciano. Lopez is a decent all-around player who can back up the middle infielders and Tatis definitely earned a spot on the 2009 roster.
2009 Mets:
SS - Jose Reyes-S
LF - Dan Murphy-L
3B - David Wright-R
1B - Adrian Gonzalez-L
CF - Carlos Beltran-S
RF - Ryan Church-L
2B - Orlando Hudson-S
C - Brian Schneider-L/Robinson Cancel-R
1B/LF/RF - Eric Byrnes-R
LF/CF/RF - Endy Chavez-L
1B/3B/LF/RF - Fernando Tatis-R
2B/SS/3B - Felipe Lopez-S
Johan Santana-L
C.C. Sabathia-L
John Maine-R
Mike Pelfrey-R
John Neise-L
B.J. Ryan-L
Dan Wheeler-R
Pedro Feliciano-L
Joe Smith-R
Darren Oliver-L
Luis Ayala-R/ Brian Stokes-R
Robert Parnell-R
I thought this was almost realistic until the part about signing CC Sabathia. I don’t see that happening a year after we gave the money to Johan. I would like to see Darren Oliver back and I like the idea of trading Delgado because we really don’t know if he will get off to a slow start and people will be calling for his head again.
People may think we are both crazy but this is one of the better ideas that I have heard (read).
I know C.C. is wishful thinking, but even if they sign Lowe instead, it will still make for a strong starting staff.
I hope they sign Lowe
Or AJ Burnett, who is 4 years younger than Lowe.
Burnett is a dog and will cost way more than Lowe.
Well, Burnett is younger, but he also seems to be very injury prone. I know that burnett will be seeking something like a 5 year, 80 million dollar contract. But I haven’t heard anything about what lowe might command on the free market…anyone?
I’d give lowe a 4 year 60 million deal, but thats just me…
id try to go a year less…i would like niese to eventually take over that spot in the rotation or someone from the farm if niese is traded.
you can almost justify C.C.’s money as the savings from Ollie, Pedro and El Duque at least in the short term
That catching platoon is really weak.
it is, but there is not much out there.
Also, 4 Type-A free agents you simply can not do. I think the max is 3.
Wheeler and Oliver are Type-A?
Yep. They’re both barely Type A and I think Wheeler isn’t due to hit free agency yet.
The Padres would want more than that for Adrian Gonzalez.
Maybe, but who thought we’d snag Johan for Carlos Gomez and Co.?
It’s a different scenario. Gonzalez is under team control through 2011 (he signed a contract extension though 2010 and they have a team option for 2011). Santana was going to be a free agent.
Plus Santana had the no trade clause. There were really only 3-4 teams that could afford Santana. Of out of that only 2 who made serious offers, us and the Rangers. If not for his no trade clause he might be a Ranger now.
Reality called….
and they had to leave a vm
Nice job having a complete plan. Not sure if its the most possible or best solution but you’ve managed to realistically put together a full team.
My main concern would be the lack of depth at SP. Niese as the 5th starter doesnt bother me, but there is nothing behind him.
Anyone can have a complete plan if you don’t live in reality…
Obviously all the signings are POSSIBLE (except the Type A stufF) but the trade for AGon is totally ridiculous….he is easily the best hitter the padres have and I can be proven wrong, but I’ve heard the POSSIBILITY of trading Peavy, but not adrian
there has been alot worse scenerios put out there by fans and this one was pretty fair (not great and a bit off). give the guy some credit for keeping it close to the relam of maybes and could bes.
peavy for fmart and niese
Why would the Padres take that package for Gonzales? You’re going to throw in a lot more prospects.
felipe lopez was cut by the nationals, no thanks.
Agreed…Gonzales isn’t going anywhere. He’s signed through 2010 with a reasonable contract, with a club option for 2011. Even if they were inclined to trade him, he would cost you your best pitching prospect plus several others…we’re talking about a guy who’s 26 years old and one of the best young hitters in the league…you can’t compare his situation to Santana’s, who was in the last year of a contract with a team that had zero chance of resigning him…
Adrian Gonzalez would be an excellent aquisition however we don’t need another lefty that can’t hit lefties we need a right handed bat somone that can mash, oh i don’t know ….. someone that is a freakin RBI machine, oh i don’t know ? Someone who is only now begining to open the eyes of the lords of baseball to the fact that he may very well be THE GREATEST RIGHT HANDED HITTER TO EVER PLAY THE GAME, oh i don’t know… Someone that can take us DEEP INTO OCT FOR THE NEXT 3 OR 4 YRS. OK, OK I WANT MANNY RAMIREZ IN A MET UNIFORM IN LF ON OPENING DAY AT CITI FIELD.
The team that could really benefit from Sabathia the most is the Angels. They need that type of pitcher to put them over the top. And they will have money to spend with Vlad and K-Rod coming off the books.
Don’t they have an option on Vlad?
yep…its going to be interesting with the angels as they have ALOT of OF options. Vlads option will be expensive tho
Yes I think so.
I could be wrong, but it seems to me that letting Vlad go is the easiest way for them to unclog the OF and minor/bench situation with Juan Rivera, Morales, etc.
And that they would prefer to retain Texiera over Vlad.
And thier pen wont miss K-Rod with Shields and Aradondo.
Odds of making the playoffs again w/ Wright and Reyes as the core: 0-1
Gimme a team full of Victornos, you can have your precious Wrights and Reyes. Guarantee the team of Victorinos whips you every time. (Oh wait, they already have 2x now)
Maybe you should change your name to “Phurioso” since you’re obviously a Phillies fan.
Also, your precious Victorino is hitting about .150 in this series.
I’m shocked to see that he hasn’t “accidently” taken out an opposing player yet. Well he almost did with Lowe.
a team of victorinos…..
more like the best bullpen in the NL(79-0 after leading in the 7th(or 8th)) and the most hr in the NL are a good start. They had the better team this year.
Stop scapegoating the pen.
Because despite that lousy pen, this team was in position to make the playoffs WITH 17 days to go, with 7 days to go, with 3 days to go, with 1 day to go.
And the pen by and large didn’t ruin them the final homestand.
The OFFENSE flat out let them down 4 of the last 5 games.
From stranding Murphy, to scoring 5 runs in final 3 days, the pen didn’t throw a playoff slot away.
Again:
DESPITE THE PEN, THEY WERE IN POSITION TO MAKE THE PLAYOFFS IN THE FINAL DAYS, AND THE OFFENSE FAILED TO SHOW UP WHEN IT COUNTED
and so did the pen…they both are culprits and you cant dismiss that furioso. Yes the offense had its let downs but so did the pen. Our only strong point was our sp. Had lidge not been perfect you can make the argument that we could have taken the division. Had the brewers not gotten cc we could have gotten the wc. Bottom line yes the offense could have won some of those games down the stretch but so could the pen.
Nope, the offense is the main culprit.
When the team was in a position to make the playoffs, the offense was the one that exited stage left.
Sanchez… If we played in a bandbox like the Citizens Bank arena,, we could lead the league in HR too
They hit 25 more home runs on the road too.
Laugh of the day - and you’re comments are always good for that - if nothing else. Furioso.
Quick poll: who would rather see the flying hawaiin on this team rather than Reyes and/or Wright?
*your
Are you kidding me furioso? Philly fans shouldnt be on “METS”blog.com btw.
I never knew Mike Francesa came to this site. Small world, I guess.
a team of victorinos? well Im going to go out on a limb here and say there has never been a playoff team in the modern era with no player batting 300 or higher, AND no player with 20 HRs or more. please go back to beerleaguer.com.
Furioso–You are forgetting that even a team of Victorinos would achieve jack-sh*t without the core of Howard and Utley.
Come on man, you can do better than this, you really can.
Wright and Reyes will lead us to a title, with Johan and the correct extra pieces.
No, they won’t.
wright and reyes are the least of the Mets problems.
Except in Sept.
Im sure ill be missing alot of points but heres what i think the mets should do not sure if it could be done so let me know what you guys think
Mets trade Beltran to yankees for talked about trade cano, kennedy, veras, player to be ann
Mets trade with boston for coco crisp , Mets get good solid defensive player boston finally makes room for jocoby i donno what it would take to get done maybe heilman , and then some
Mets trade for peavy give up f-mart and kennedy and a throw in
Mets trade delgado and shoe to jays for ryan and b level prospect
Mets sign manny to make up for delgado loss
Mets sign fuentees
also sign baldelli- high risk high reward
09 line up
c- schnider
1b-murphy
2b-cano
3b-wright
ss-reyes
lf-manny
cf-coco
rf-church
“Mets trade Beltran to yankees for talked about trade cano, kennedy, veras, player to be ann”
Unless your “player to be ann” is Joba Chamberlain, that trade is garbage.
Cano is just such a dog. I cant’ see him contributing to a winning team.
dude.. this is the most laughable scenario, just with the talk about trading Beltran to the yanks for that crap…
Well, when the rumor was out there for Angel Pagan for Coco Crisp people here almost burned the building down………
Who would we give up for the legendary Coco…
The yankee trade is a bad trade, cano and kennedy given in return for beltran isnt worth it at all
IMO, if you’re going to be unrealistic with trades/signings you should at least make the team better.
I like that thinking Gina.
Castillo and Muniz for Pujols. Then trade Delgado for Mariano Rivera. And Brian Schneider and Aaron Heilman for Joe Mauer.