Comments on: Q&A: MetsBlog and Minaya on the Bullpen http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/15/qa-metsblog-and-minaya-on-the-bullpen/ MetsBlog.com features the latest Mets rumors, player movement, and news circulating around the Internet, as well as Mets related insights and opinions by Matthew Cerrone and his team of guest bloggers. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:48:01 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: bill metsiac http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/15/qa-metsblog-and-minaya-on-the-bullpen/#comment-373051 bill metsiac Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:03:25 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/14/qa-metsblog-and-minaya-on-the-bullpen/#comment-373051 IMO neither K-Rod nor Fuentes will be worth what they're asking (and likely to get) in both years and $$$. If necessary, Omar MAY have to go after one of them, but I'd rather look to trade for someone already under contract. My #1 target would be Soria. Of course, he might not be available, but if KC is willing to trade him I'd build a package of young, low-salaried guys that the Royals seek. Hopefully, without giving up Murphy or Martinez, some combination of Kunz (to replace Soria as Closer), Evans, Parnell, Niese, Heilman (if KC is one of the teams reportedly interested in him as a SP), would do it. If Soria is not available, I'd look at other closers who might be, at lower prices. Maybe even look at Hoffman if he'd take a 1-year deal. That'd free up FA $$$ to go after Hudson and re-sign Perez or go for a top-tier replacement. IMO neither K-Rod nor Fuentes will be worth what they’re asking (and likely to get) in both years and $$$.

If necessary, Omar MAY have to go after one of them, but I’d rather look to trade for someone already under contract. My #1 target would be Soria. Of course, he might not be available, but if KC is willing to trade him I’d build a package of young, low-salaried guys that the Royals seek.

Hopefully, without giving up Murphy or Martinez, some combination of Kunz (to replace Soria as Closer), Evans, Parnell, Niese, Heilman (if KC is one of the teams reportedly interested in him as a SP), would do it.

If Soria is not available, I’d look at other closers who might be, at lower prices. Maybe even look at Hoffman if he’d take a 1-year deal.

That’d free up FA $$$ to go after Hudson and re-sign Perez or go for a top-tier replacement.

]]> By: BiggieSmalls http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/15/qa-metsblog-and-minaya-on-the-bullpen/#comment-372683 BiggieSmalls Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:43:05 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/14/qa-metsblog-and-minaya-on-the-bullpen/#comment-372683 I may be up for flames here.. but Im against selling low on Heilman. Granted he had a bad year but he was hurt all year and was not the same. He was dreadfully overworked mostly by Willie over the past two years. I know he spit the bit a few times but there was a time in 2007 when he was our best reliever I may be up for flames here.. but Im against selling low on Heilman. Granted he had a bad year but he was hurt all year and was not the same. He was dreadfully overworked mostly by Willie over the past two years. I know he spit the bit a few times but there was a time in 2007 when he was our best reliever

]]> By: BiggieSmalls http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/15/qa-metsblog-and-minaya-on-the-bullpen/#comment-372680 BiggieSmalls Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:38:29 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/14/qa-metsblog-and-minaya-on-the-bullpen/#comment-372680 I think Heilman's problem this year were two fold. He was hurt most of the year. It is now known that he has had a knee issue all year.. Now granted Santana pitched on a torn meniscus but we dont know the extent of Heilman's injury. I read somewhere that it was preventing him from working out all year. Second, I think primarily Willie overworked most of the BP this year (and last too) Now I know the starters didnt help things by going 6 innings most of the year but a lot of times pitchers were up and down in the BP during games and warming up not to be used. I just think these guys arent as bad as they seemed. And having 3 or 4 guys around 80 appearances is just unheard of in a bul pen. I think Heilman’s problem this year were two fold.

He was hurt most of the year. It is now known that he has had a knee issue all year.. Now granted Santana pitched on a torn meniscus but we dont know the extent of Heilman’s injury. I read somewhere that it was preventing him from working out all year.

Second, I think primarily Willie overworked most of the BP this year (and last too) Now I know the starters didnt help things by going 6 innings most of the year but a lot of times pitchers were up and down in the BP during games and warming up not to be used.

I just think these guys arent as bad as they seemed. And having 3 or 4 guys around 80 appearances is just unheard of in a bul pen.

]]> By: HitTheSinkerBall http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/15/qa-metsblog-and-minaya-on-the-bullpen/#comment-372637 HitTheSinkerBall Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:52:16 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/14/qa-metsblog-and-minaya-on-the-bullpen/#comment-372637 You are right we lost Oliver and Bradford after 06. Oliver I think is going to be available again at the end of the season if so the Mets should take a look at him. But my point was they got to get some more solid proven arms going into 09 rather then hoping for Heilman and Show to turn it around, hoping Sanchez can get back to his 2006 form. The Mets can not go into 2009 wit the same cast of characters in the bullpen besides maybe a new closer and go ok let’s hope they all turn things around. If so good for us if not we are screwed. Heilman has never gotten big outs in a big game never. They need to do more then go get a new closer and pick up a Matt Wise (that worked out good). I turst that they will. I think at least 3 or 4 new faces in that bullpen next year. You are right we lost Oliver and Bradford after 06. Oliver I think is going to be available again at the end of the season if so the Mets should take a look at him.

But my point was they got to get some more solid proven arms going into 09 rather then hoping for Heilman and Show to turn it around, hoping Sanchez can get back to his 2006 form.

The Mets can not go into 2009 wit the same cast of characters in the bullpen besides maybe a new closer and go ok let’s hope they all turn things around. If so good for us if not we are screwed.

Heilman has never gotten big outs in a big game never.

They need to do more then go get a new closer and pick up a Matt Wise (that worked out good).

I turst that they will. I think at least 3 or 4 new faces in that bullpen next year.

]]> By: darknova http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/15/qa-metsblog-and-minaya-on-the-bullpen/#comment-372624 darknova Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:43:02 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/14/qa-metsblog-and-minaya-on-the-bullpen/#comment-372624 Relax, he's most likely just trying to increase Heilman's trade value. I highly doubt Omar is going to overlook trading one of our biggest piles of garbage. Relax, he’s most likely just trying to increase Heilman’s trade value. I highly doubt Omar is going to overlook trading one of our biggest piles of garbage.

]]> By: darknova http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/15/qa-metsblog-and-minaya-on-the-bullpen/#comment-372603 darknova Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:07:14 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/14/qa-metsblog-and-minaya-on-the-bullpen/#comment-372603 Point of interest: the Mets bullpen of '07 that collapsed wasn't nearly the same pen as '06. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe in the offseason of 2006 we lost: Bradford, Wheeler, Oliver, Hernandez, and Sanchez was injured. The 2007 bullpen was vastly different outside Wagner and Heilman. Point of interest: the Mets bullpen of ‘07 that collapsed wasn’t nearly the same pen as ‘06. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe in the offseason of 2006 we lost: Bradford, Wheeler, Oliver, Hernandez, and Sanchez was injured. The 2007 bullpen was vastly different outside Wagner and Heilman.

]]> By: swirlywand http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/15/qa-metsblog-and-minaya-on-the-bullpen/#comment-372582 swirlywand Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:14:55 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/14/qa-metsblog-and-minaya-on-the-bullpen/#comment-372582 OH GOOD LORD- did I really read that Omar thinks Aaron Freaking Heilman might be great next year?!?!? We have already given him TWO undeserverd years....now I'm sick to my stomach...you know, not EVERYONE is Brad Lidge....not everyone is going to go from HORRIBLE to WONDERFUL.... OH GOOD LORD- did I really read that Omar thinks Aaron Freaking Heilman might be great next year?!?!? We have already given him TWO undeserverd years….now I’m sick to my stomach…you know, not EVERYONE is Brad Lidge….not everyone is going to go from HORRIBLE to WONDERFUL….

]]> By: mboone6986 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/15/qa-metsblog-and-minaya-on-the-bullpen/#comment-372576 mboone6986 Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:07:39 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/14/qa-metsblog-and-minaya-on-the-bullpen/#comment-372576 I think the innings is important, too many starters going 6 innings. I know the game has changed, but I think the Mets need to go deeper when they start. Pelfry showed signs of that this season and I hope his growth continues I think the innings is important, too many starters going 6 innings. I know the game has changed, but I think the Mets need to go deeper when they start. Pelfry showed signs of that this season and I hope his growth continues

]]> By: therealsince86 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/15/qa-metsblog-and-minaya-on-the-bullpen/#comment-372573 therealsince86 Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:00:36 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/14/qa-metsblog-and-minaya-on-the-bullpen/#comment-372573 Agreed. If the Mets don't see it this way then the FO should be fired and we should be the new GM's. LOL. Agreed. If the Mets don’t see it this way then the FO should be fired and we should be the new GM’s. LOL.

]]> By: therealsince86 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/15/qa-metsblog-and-minaya-on-the-bullpen/#comment-372571 therealsince86 Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:59:36 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/14/qa-metsblog-and-minaya-on-the-bullpen/#comment-372571 If he did he would be MUCH better than Oliver Perez and would average more innings than John Maine. If he did he would be MUCH better than Oliver Perez and would average more innings than John Maine.

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