but okay, screw peavy. i’ll take jeff suppan over him every day, because suppan was good in the playoffs in ’06, right?

Three games, while not definitive, is certainly enough to get an idea of a starter”s ability to perform under pressure.

Vazquez was labeled a choker on less than 3 games … and guess what? He’s still a choker as Guillen keeps pointing out.

Could Peavy turn it around? Maybe. But I wouldn’t take that chance. He’s not the type of guy you build a rotation around. Yet he’ll be paid premium dollars.

And by the way, I’m pretty sure it’s more than 3 games. As I said, I remember numerous times down the stretch the last few years where he spit the bit.

And A-Rod is definitely a choker. His personal baggage, his unclutchness, and his obscene contract are all good reasons not to want him on the Mets. The Yankees will rue the day they resigned him. It was Hankie’s fault too.

And you don’t make any sense. You generally NEVER dump 27-year-old starters who generally pitch well if he’s locked up for 3 more years. You only do that if you know you can’t win without him, regardless of the offensive talent on the team. That’s the case with the Padres.

And firejoemorgan.com is full of itself. I’ve read their stuff before, and some of it is pure crap.

less than 3 games but teams took a chance on him and are finding out

you can’t steal him away. He named the teams he wants and NY wasn’t one of them.

despite that if it took Fmart/Murphy and Niese to make the deal you’d have to consider it. at 27 with a contolled contract he is a perfect compliment to the staff and with Santana/Peavy/Pefrey and Maine you have the best 4 man rotation in baseball.

it also lets you spend money on the pen. Peavy only makes 8 million next year. I rarther get CC with a Santana like deal but then again it’s not my money.

It’s 3 games…. 3 GAMES!!

No matter how bad those 3 starts were, it’s far too small a sample size just to clarify him as a “choker”

You probably are the kind of person who wouldn’t want A-Rod because he’s a “choker”

Is Sabathia a “choker” because he’s been terrible in the playoffs, even though he’s the only reason the Brewers made the playoffs?

You argument is completely flawed….

The reason they’ll never get far with him is because they surround him with NOTHING. Adrian Gonzalez and Giles are their only good hitters, and the often injured Chris Young is their only other good pitcher.

They’re jettisoning him because they know they have no shot at competing for the next few seasons, and they want to get some good prospects for him.

Please read FireJoeMorgan.com to get some real perspective.

I’m pretty sure there’s at least one if not more one-game playoffs he’s also pitched … OR …. a game at the end of the season on which the Padres’ entire season rested on and he also crapped the bed.

That’s at least 3 out of 3 choke jobs. While you would always like more than 3 big games to get a gauge on a player, 3 games is pretty good.

Peavy is only 27. He’s the kind of player you build around — not jettison. They have him locked up for the next 3 years so it’s not as if they would be losing him to free agency soon either. Whether you are rebuilding from scratch or want to contend right away, you don’t jettison a pitcher like Peavy unless he has a fatal flaw. He does. He’s a choker. And the Padres know they will never get deep into the postseason with him. They know his personality better than anyone.

That’s the reason they want to trade Peavy. They know they’ll never get far with him. Whether they are rebuilding or not.

Of course, they will tell you the reason they are doing it is because they want to rebuild. You think they are going to say “he’s a friggin choker” publicly??

Again, no one jettisons a 27-year old pitcher with those skills unless he has a fatal flaw. And this guy does.

Peavy’s one of the best pitchers in baseball, and if we had him in our rotation last year, we make the playoffs easily.

He’s made 2 postseason starts ever.

Yes, he was terrible in both of them, but to determine that a pitcher is a choker based on 2 playoff starts is just dumb.

Finally, I’m not sure if you knew this, but the Padres lost close to 100 games last year, and don’t look like they’ll be competitive anytime soon.

That’s the reason they want to trade Peavy. Not because of two postseason starts…

He’s the type of pitcher that might help you get to the postseason, but once there, he’ll crap out on the mound.

No thanks.

Also Ibanez is going to be a type a free agent, which means he’ll cost a first round draft pick. Considering his age and his “defense” I don’t think it’s worth it.