Comments on: Buzz: HoJo, Warthen to Stay http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/22/buzz-hojo-warthen-to-stay/ Latest Mets News, Links, Rumors and Opinion Fri, 04 Feb 2011 21:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: The Slider http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/22/buzz-hojo-warthen-to-stay/#comment-376297 The Slider Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:54:50 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=20823#comment-376297 Not a bad choice at all. Not a bad choice at all.

]]> By: fortleemets http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/22/buzz-hojo-warthen-to-stay/#comment-376293 fortleemets Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:34:32 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=20823#comment-376293 How come Guy Conti is never blamed for the bullpen woes? How come Guy Conti is never blamed for the bullpen woes?

]]> By: metsftw http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/22/buzz-hojo-warthen-to-stay/#comment-376286 metsftw Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:33:42 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=20823#comment-376286 probably should've waited until the rest of the list was posted. just saying. probably should’ve waited until the rest of the list was posted. just saying.

]]> By: metsftw http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/22/buzz-hojo-warthen-to-stay/#comment-376285 metsftw Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:33:21 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=20823#comment-376285 yeah i'm not sure why fielder is 1st...he's a very good hitter no doubt...but he's a 1st baseman.. yeah i’m not sure why fielder is 1st…he’s a very good hitter no doubt…but he’s a 1st baseman..

]]> By: metsftw http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/22/buzz-hojo-warthen-to-stay/#comment-376284 metsftw Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:31:52 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=20823#comment-376284 yeah, all he does is hit long home runs. he doesn't have a career .900 OPS or anything. yeah, all he does is hit long home runs. he doesn’t have a career .900 OPS or anything.

]]> By: fongulalou http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/22/buzz-hojo-warthen-to-stay/#comment-376278 fongulalou Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:08:48 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=20823#comment-376278 Heres hoping Jerry will be allowed to replace Omars spy and get a 3B coach who actually knows his players speed,base running ability and the arms of the opposition players. Heres hoping Jerry will be allowed to replace Omars
spy and get a 3B coach who actually knows his players
speed,base running ability and the arms of the opposition players.

]]> By: Ellen http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/22/buzz-hojo-warthen-to-stay/#comment-376275 Ellen Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:52:31 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=20823#comment-376275 Warthen did seem to have positive effect on Ollie, Pelf, and maybe Smith. Johan is just good, no matter who is coaching him. But IMO, I think some of the others did not flourish as much under Warthen. Show, Duaner, Heilman and maybe even Maine might have done better under the Jacket. But it is all speculative at this point. Warthen did seem to have positive effect on Ollie, Pelf, and maybe Smith. Johan is just good, no matter who is coaching him. But IMO, I think some of the others did not flourish as much under Warthen. Show, Duaner, Heilman and maybe even Maine might have done better under the Jacket. But it is all speculative at this point.

]]> By: Ellen http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/22/buzz-hojo-warthen-to-stay/#comment-376267 Ellen Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:25:10 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=20823#comment-376267 I do agree with you, Tidewater. I was just trying to point out (not to you because I believe you "get it") that your argument was good and that a team's success is never based on any one member's performance. I agree - Castillo is not performing well at all this year but for some to say he was the main cause of this year's failures is utterly ridiculous. To me, this year's collapse was a team effort. But again, I was agreeing with your sentiment. I do agree with you, Tidewater. I was just trying to point out (not to you because I believe you “get it”) that your argument was good and that a team’s success is never based on any one member’s performance. I agree – Castillo is not performing well at all this year but for some to say he was the main cause of this year’s failures is utterly ridiculous. To me, this year’s collapse was a team effort.

But again, I was agreeing with your sentiment.

]]> By: guierllNO MOta http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/22/buzz-hojo-warthen-to-stay/#comment-376266 guierllNO MOta Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:18:49 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=20823#comment-376266 Is there any hitter on the Mets who did not get significantly worse the day Hojo took over for Down? I love Hojo, as a player, maybe as a 3rd base coach, but the guy has no business being the hitting coach anymore, if managers can be fired because of their players performance, how can you justify keeping a hittinc coach that had every single hitter underperform, with this lineup, only one guy hitting 300, terrible. Warthen gets to stay because he showed what he can do with Ollie, and to some extent, Pelfrey Is there any hitter on the Mets who did not get significantly worse the day Hojo took over for Down?

I love Hojo, as a player, maybe as a 3rd base coach, but the guy has no business being the hitting coach anymore, if managers can be fired because of their players performance, how can you justify keeping a hittinc coach that had every single hitter underperform, with this lineup, only one guy hitting 300, terrible.

Warthen gets to stay because he showed what he can do with Ollie, and to some extent, Pelfrey

]]> By: Tidewater http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/22/buzz-hojo-warthen-to-stay/#comment-376261 Tidewater Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:56:26 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=20823#comment-376261 Ellen: People shouldn't call them losers. But that's not to say that everybody's good. I don't think Willie is a loser, but it sure appeared to many that he was not getting the most out this team. Maybe he'd be a better manager with another team, maybe he's just not a good manager. And Castillo isn't good, at least not right now. My complaint here isn't that all players are good, it's that people paint individuals as losers or winners based on what their teams have done. Ted Williams is not a "loser" simply because the Red Sox were not champions all those years. Ellen:

People shouldn’t call them losers. But that’s not to say that everybody’s good. I don’t think Willie is a loser, but it sure appeared to many that he was not getting the most out this team. Maybe he’d be a better manager with another team, maybe he’s just not a good manager. And Castillo isn’t good, at least not right now.

My complaint here isn’t that all players are good, it’s that people paint individuals as losers or winners based on what their teams have done. Ted Williams is not a “loser” simply because the Red Sox were not champions all those years.

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