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Last week at SI.com, citing a GM, Jon Heyman wrote that the Mets will make a ‘big play’ for Ramirez.
This weekend at SI.com, Heyman wrote that the Mets have shown ‘limited interest’ in Ramirez.
However, last Friday in Newsday, Ken Davidoff wrote, “The Mets have no intention of pursuing Ramirez at this point.”
Nevertheless, according to Heyman, only the Mets, Yankees, Blue Jays, Orioles and Phillies can afford Ramirez, while also having room for him in the outfield.
Ramirez’s agent, Scott Boras, has said his client will command a five-year deal worth $85 million, according to Tracy Ringolsby in the Rocky Mountain News.
…i just can’t see the Mets signing manny to a five-year deal…of course, i don’t see any team signing him to a five-year deal…so, if the terms drop, and a three-year deal is realistic, the Mets have to at least be in the discussion…
…i’m not saying they have to sign him, nor am i even sure they should sign him, but, at 
that level, they have to consider it…at the very least, it’s a quick-and-easy solution to instantly propping up the lineup, and filling left field…
…again, whether it’s a wise decision can be debated, but you can’t argue its impact…also, he will only cost money, albeit a lot of money, as opposed to acquiring a similar bat with a trade, which will cost young talent…
In 53 games for the Dodgers this season, Ramirez batted .396 with 17 HR and 53 RBI.
Prior to being traded to the Dodgers, Ramirez hit .299 with 20 HR and 68 RBI in 100 games for the Red Sox.
For more on Ramirez, and ‘Manny being Manny,’ check out Bob Hohler’s article in the Boston Globe, where he quotes Nomar Garciaparra as saying the Red Sox unfairly tried to demonize Ramirez, like they did to him, Mo Vaughn and Pedro Martinez.
Manny’s a huge jerk, no doubt. But I still can’t believe how poorly Sox fans think of him. I mean, he was a huge part of bringing them two World Series victories, and they all hate him.
bet boston, or more specifically david ortiz, wishes they still had manny. they’d still be playing and have philly down 3-1 right now.
Yeah, Jason Bay and his OPS of 1.105 in the playoffs this season was terrible. Not to mention how many runs he probably saved on defense.
Exactly, not having Manny was not Boston’s problem. Plus they solved their left fielder issue not only for next year but for the next few years by bringing in Bay.
Considering Manny was threatening season-ending knee surgery, I highly doubt Manny would’ve even been playing.
I love Manny, but would feel the same way if he did what he did to the Mets
What Manny did to the Red Sox is all Scott Boras’ doing. If Manny had his option years picked up Boras would not stand to receive a dime because Boras was NOT Manny’s agent when he signed his deal with the Red Sox in 2001. This whole situation is Boras’ doing as he wants to make money out of being Manny’s agent.
Bill Simmons wrote an article on Manny. It was fascinating to see that Manny barely cashes his checks. They usually sit in the top drawer of his locker. Manny is very easily influenced and was manipulated by Boras in this situation. The rumor is Boras told Manny that the Sox didn’t think he was worth it to take up his options. Boras then told Manny to fake the injuries and you know the rest.
Also this thought that Manny is lazy and takes time off is ridiculous. It is well known that Manny is the hardest worker on most teams. He is hitting in the cage and on the field before the rest of the team is at the stadium. He takes hitting very seriously and works hard at it.
I absolutely agree with you that the ‘thought that Manny is lazy’ is ridiculous. Yea, he often jogs down the 1st base line, but I consider that frustration, not laziness. Unfortunately many fine baseball players don’t run out routine ground balls.
However, the thought that he ‘takes time off’ is well grounded in fact during his stay in Boston. In ‘01 he left the ballpark before batting practice for ‘personal reasons,’ missing a Fenway Park celebration of Cal Ripken’s career with Baltimore in town. In ‘04 he missed several games with an illness that did not keep him from meeting an old friend and former teammate in a hotel bar, it just kept him from playing. He has refused to enter a game as a pinch hitter. He has left the country, missing several games mid season due to family member illness which was later reported as a stomach ache. I think the ‘takes time off’ label validly sticks.
As per Nomar’s comments, I don’t really follow the Sox enough to give an opinion toward the Red Sox’ treatment of Nomar/Manny/Vaughn, but we all know the criticism coming out of Boston regarding Pedro, but he’s been a model citizen since coming over to Queens
That’s because he spent over half his contract in the Dominican!
don’t you have to give up draft picks when you sign free agents? If that is the case, these players DO cost more than money, the cost is the replenishment of the farm system. Same comment goes for Mets chasing K-Rod.
And everyone else posting these ridiculously retarded “Sign Manny, CC, K-rod JUST DO IT!!!!!” offseason moves.
Well…you can only give up one first rounder – and that’s only for an A free agent. If the team signs a second A free agent, they give away their second round pick (and so on). B free agents don’t take away picks.
But yes.. Manny will certainly be a Type A when the list is complied after the Phillies parade
Signing Manny doesn’t require giving up a draft pick, because the Dodgers are not going to be offering him arbitration.
Umm why wouldn’t they? They know he’s not going to accept.
My mistake, the Dodgers are offering him arbitration. I misread the exact details of his trade. He agreed not to accept arbitration and as a result the Dodgers will be receiving the picks. I stand corrected.
If we let Perez walk, which we absolutely should, we’ll get 2 first rounders back. Although I’m not completely sure how that works if you sign type A’s and let a type A walk. Plus Fuentes will be a type A as well so him and K-rod will both cost draft picks.
Plus its not like this team drafts that well anyway. Does it really make a difference.
This is from about.com regarding free agency:
If there are 14 or fewer Type A or Type B free agents available, no team can sign more than one type A or B player. If there are between 15-38, no team can sign more than two. If there are between 39 and 62, there’s a limit of three. However, teams can sign as many Type A or B free agents as they’ve lost, regardless of the limits above.
So the Mets are not interested in Krod for 5 years at 27 years old and 15-18 million but are interested in Manny at 37 years old and 20-25 million. I don’t buy it at all.
are you not familiar with the stupidity of one Omar Minaya?
Alou, El Duque, and Pedro last year easily clears 1 year of Manny at the above listed prices.
Money well spent huh?
Not going to start a big debate with you today.
But if a LF was all we need then maybe. But we need much more than that, infact Murphy could very well be our LF next season.
1 more win and the phills win the world series, and were talking about a bumb closer in fuentes who lost his closer role twice with the rockies and a guy in lowe who is no 2nd starter.
pelfrey…dont know what your getting
maine…after injury dont know what your getting
neise…pitched like 4 games in the majors and got lit up
we are in trouble people!
Inferiority complex a little? Do you honestly think that if the Phillies win this season that they are going to be some god like team next season so we need to go out and up our payroll to 200 million just to compete with them?
we know what we’re getting pelfrey. apparently you missed his starts past may.
Eh, if you look at his home/road splits there’s a huge huge difference in his ERA. Playing in shea helped him a lot, and since Citi should still be a pitchers park it won’t matter at home, but he’s not someone we should rely on to be a #2 maybe even #3 pitcher all year.
him= Pelfrey.
true, gina, you raise a valid point. yet at the same time we can also consider where pelfrey pitched very well and the bullpen blew the game for him.
if you’re arguing that pelf shouldn’t be a #2, i can maybe agree with you on that but you’re bringing up a new issue. who then is our #2. i think you and i are in agreement that it sure as hell is not john maine especially not while we don’t know he’ll come back from his shoulder woes from this past season.
whither sabathia?
That is my point. There’s too many question marks with them team to think one big move is going to solve everything. We did the same thing with Santana last year and look where it got us, a whopping one game better.
Math time. Dodgers offered 2 yrs 60 million which was turned down, but Manny would accept 5 yrs 85? I would think that Manny could easily gamble with the Dodgers offer and make more than 25 million over the 3 yrs after. Was the dodger offer just a rumor? is the 5/85 a rumor?
Commentators said Mike Piazza paid for his contract in the first three yrs by giving the mets credibility & production. Would Manny do the same over the first 2-3 of a five yr deal? One ring would be worth it, wouldn’t it?
DO IT
Manny backs his behavior up everywhere he goes.
Wright and Reyes? Not so much
I think he settles, hopefully somewhere else, for 3 years 72 million with option years.
Sign Manny, CC, K-rod JUST DO IT!!!!!
This is sort of unrelated but did anyone else read that the Mets were uninterested in a Byrnes for Castillo swap. I read it on mlbtraderumors and it made my head spin. I’d trade Castillo for a bag of balls at this point.
I read it the other way around..that the dbacks were not interested in trading for castillo(cant blame them for that)
That is the way I took it as well.
castillo for Guillen is the latest rumor. don’t know what KC is thinking
Have you seen Gullien’s numbers and contract? Not to mention that he has had issues EVERYWHERE he has been. I am not saying we should NOT do it but there are plenty of reasons why KC would. Castillo would replace Grudzy and have similar numbers. Getting rid of a disgruntle Gullien when you are trying to rebuild, priceless.
How are the Dodgers not listed as one of the teams that can afford Manny? They play in the 2nd biggest market, lead the league in attendance pretty much every year, and consistently have a high payroll.
5 years? please.
2 years max. maybe an option for a 3rd year if it’s based on manny winning mvp or ws mvp
Isn’t Manny a type A free agent? The team that signs him will have to relinquish draft picks I think. Therefore, he would cost more than “just cash” as Matt states above.
4 years at 100 million with a 5th year option. Hes worth every penny. He is one of the most clutch players of all time. Mets will win 1 maybe even 2 world series with Manny in the lineup. And bring the Pedro legitimacy that many people talk about. Other players will want to come to the met as well. I love manny,
Do it Omar.
What the Mets should have done was trade for Jason Bay at the trade deadline…Oh well with that being said ,If the Mets make a play for Manny fine…If they don’t fine.
But we can’t let this guy end up in Philly!!!I think if that happens this team will come up short for at least the next three years.
if i were omar…i would tell manny, 3 years 65 mil $…take it or leave it….if he accepts than we fill the left field hole…if he doesnt like it then forget it…i would not go to 5 years with him, but i dont think any team will