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According to the New York Post, “The Brewers have informed teams they are willing to listen to offers for first baseman Prince Fielder,” in exchange for a “substantial package.”
In a recent report for ESPN.com, Buster Olney wrote, “Rival execs expect the Brewers to consider swapping Fielder for a pitcher, like Matt Cain,” who, at 22 years old, had a 3.76 ERA, while striking out 186 batters, in 34 starts.
Meanwhile, the 24-year-old Fielder hit 34 HR with 102 RBI in 2008.
…fielder will go to arbitration for the first time this off-season, and is under contract through 2011…the buzz around baseball is that he is likely to be rewarded a $10 million salary, similar to what Ryan Howard got last off-season…
…nevertheless, if you’re a Mets fan who wants fielder, it sounds like you would need to trade at least Mike Pelfrey to get him……
no!!! the mets dont need him…hes overrated and not worth he prospects he would cost!! use those prospects to get a solid bullpen
This offseason is easy now. Trade for Magglio Ordonez, Matt Holliday, Prince Fielder, JJ Putz, Kevin Gregg, and Jake Peavy. Sign K-Rod, Fuentes, CC Sabathia, Ben Sheets, and Orlando Hudson.
It’s just that easy. :)
wouldnt that be awesome!! lol
I can’t stand the sight of that fat slob.
Athelete….pfft.
Yeaah.. like we could get Gregg..
Pelfrey is worth far more to me than Fielder ever wood.
Peflrey is the real deal and home grown.
Sure, a 24 year old Fielder is enticing, but I would have to skip it.
woops, would, not would.
This thing should have an edit option.
I would trade him for Jonathan Niese..but not Pelfrey…
Haha, you made another typo, etched in cyber-stone, for all eternity. :D
Or Freudian slip — maybe he wants Kerry Wood. Or another kind of wood. OK, I’ll stop there.
you mean would not wood!!!!!
LOL
Pelfrey’s home and away splits are scary. It’s hard to say whether he’s the real deal yet or not.
His home and away splits are not that worrying to me. Its the lefty right splits that are.
Pelfrey has a few things that should give us pause but overall I think he’s gonna be something.
For example he NEEDS to learn to contol his changeup. Thats the only way he’ll be able to get lefties out. Apparently the change also has a lot of movement on it so if he can learn to control it could be a very good pitch. I saw a really good write-up on metsgeek about pelfrey’s season which is where this info comes from.
he reminds me too much of mo vaughn…ur gonna have to pay him eventually so u might as well fork up the money now for Teixeira if u wanna take that path
I wouldn’t do this trade as rumored right now either, but generally, I certainly wouldn’t complain about getting Mo Vaughn’s 4th-6th seasons, when he was an elite hitter and an MVP…..If we were somehow guaranteed to get those same numbers from the same period of Fielder’s career, I’d take that in a heartbeat.
Sign Delgado and trade him and Neise to Mil. For Fielder. Otherwise.. No.
I think they are doing this because without sheets and sabathia they know they arent going to contend for a while…i wish they would but i highly doubt they would take an old guy like delgado who is signed for 1 year
I think they are doing it because Prince is fat and defensively-challenged at 24…it’s not going to get better. Teams like this can’t afford to wait and see with guys like this…just like the Marlins with Cabrera. His value in a trade will never be higher than now.
And they still won’t want Delgado.
What does this have to do with the Mets?
Oh right, nothing.
Lol this was my exact thought.
Matt Cain is cheaper next year than Carlos Marmol and in most circles, considered the better commodity. And Tidewater said that to even consider another teams player on that level would be moronic on the level of a Heilman and Castillo for Longoria and Price deal. While Carlos Marmol may not get dealt, and Matt Cain may not be touchable, Tidewater considers Buster Ulney and the rival execs morons for even suggesting it was possible!
No, I don’t consider them morons. This was not your fight but if you want a piece too… fine.
Cain makes twice as much as Marmol and is closer to arbitration than Marmol.
The Giants are desperate for improvement, especially at the plate, whereas the Cubs were a powerhouse this year who just got cold in a best of five series.
Cain has been rumored to be available for weeks whereas nobody has said word one about Marmol.
Marmol was actually in the Peavy rumor last week. But who cares.
Please show me that.
I believe Tom Fornelli wrote it. Granted he runs a blog but at this point that’s the only rumors we have since no players on other teams are allowed to be discussed by real sources. Not the most reliable source but none of these bozos know what they are talking about in regards to trade rumors — they are mostly made up.
That’s more likely a “suggestion” than a rumor, which is the same as suggesting that Ridethesnake’s post is a rumor.
I would not trade Pelf no way. Top starting pitching is harder to get and that is what Pel is becoming.
I would trade some minor leaguers for him though and then trade Delgado for some more bullpen help.
But nothing will come of this the Brew Crew will want way to much for him.
No thanks
While I would love to get Prince Fielder, I would never trade them Pelfrey for him.
He is a beast, but we have nowhere to put him. Teams will rob us of Delgado if we make this deal.
ESPN is reporting that the Mets just traded Luis Castillo to the Brewers for Prince Fielder and Solomon Torres …. I guess Castillo is worth something after all.
Im kidding by the way …. I just really hate Castillo and I really have a bad feeling this scum bag is going to be on the team next year which means he will at least start the season playing 2nd base because there is no way he will be on the team and start the season as a bench player. I HATE CASTILLO!!!!
I’m right there with you. I was saying this even after the deadline deal. I can’t stand having a guy on the team who bats .278 and slugs .279. Outfielders play at little league depth for this guy, which causes him to not be able to drive in a runner from 2nd base with less than 2 out on a single. He would probably even have trouble with 2 outs. Let’s not forget the odds are stacked against him from even getting the ball through the infield. He is horrible and has no place on this team. I can honestly say if Omar Minaya was fired and the Wilpons cited this signing as the reason, I would understand (not like he has a 2 yr deal…he. has. 3!!!!! years left)
Only thing we can do as fans is boo him all the way to Buffalo.
Don’t start posts with “ESPN is reporting that the Mets just traded Luis Castillo to the…”
You got me really excited for a second!
next year the mets have 3 options for first base….delgado (keep him), Tiexiera (sign him and trade delgado…like to see it but probably wont happen), or put evans/murph there (which most likely wont happen….
they are not gunna be searching for a first baseman… i really think delgado will be there next year
also, what are the mets planning on doing with murph?? i kno they wanted him to try 2nd now hes playing left…if hes gunna play left next year, y are we even looking for a leftfielder?? did they say he will play second, cuz i dont think they wanted him there
I don’t think you want Evans or Murphy there. There is no way they will give you the power or production that Delgado will give.
IF Delgado is bye bye you need a big big bat to replace him. I am talking a Manny bat to put into that lineup or the Mets lineup will be bad next year.
If you get an offensive production from another position it will even out. You don’t have to have a power hitter at 1b, you just need to have a power hitter somewhere. If we brought in someone like Manny or an Adam Dunn, not saying we should but if we did, then we could put a Murphy @ first or platoon him with Evans and our offense would still be upgraded.
Except for the fact that you’re supposed to get offense from LF in the first place. You really only offset a lack of power at a power position by getting it at a non power position.
If we had a power hitting catcher or second baseman, then you can sacrifice power at a “traditional” power position.
That’s the reason Piazza was even more potent than his raw stats suggested: he did it from a position where one doesn’t rely on top-notch offense.
That’s why Beltran is so key too — look around at CFers — it’s not 10 yrs ago when CF had power like Junior, Bernie, Andruw…
Exactly. People who have a problem with Beltran must have expected Willie Mays or something. Beltran is good in the field, at the plate, and on the base paths. I think fans thought he’d hit 40 homers and bat .330, but you can’t ask for much more than what he’s given.
Now if he’d do something about that mole…
Its going to be an interesting offseason thats for sure
It sure is, new rumors everyday …. you have reports saying the Mets are going for Manny then other reports saying no …. I jsut no of 2 things. There will be new faces in that bullpen and the Mets will try to dump Castillo.
I doubt they will be able to but they will try.
Other then that nothing they do or don’t do will shock me this offseason.
3-way
Milwaukee gets: Niese, Evans, Jeff Clement
Mets get: Fielder, Putz, M. Batista
Seattle gets: Delgado, Heilman
Benefits:
Milwaukee gets three young players with strong upside in Niese, Evans (who will play 1B), and Jeff Clement as a catcher of the future.
Seattle gets out from under the Batista’s contact, gets more offense for the DH position in Delgado, and a pitcher with a lot of upside that they can try out as they rebuild, with Heilman.
The Mets get: 1B for the next 3 years in Fielder, a closer in Putz, and a veteran #5 starter that you can role the dice with and hope he’s healthy in Batista
So basically Seattle gets nothing for their top prospect and one of the best closers in the league coming off a bad season.
Ok, so maybe Clement is too much. Take him out of the deal and it looks a lot better.
Now why would the Brewers do it. That’s not enough to get back for Prince.
that trade makes no sense? so seattle gives up one of the better catching prospects in MLB, and a once amazing closer for a mid 30 first basemen that came off a lucky year, and a 30 year old relief pitcher with 0 conifidence?
Since when is Murphy playing LF? He played 2B all through the AFL until he got hurt in the All Star Game and hasn’t played at all since. He’ll probably start at 2B as early as Friday.
I’m not giving up on Murphy at 2B until Murphy gives me a reason to, and he most certainly hasn’t yet.
No thanks, slim fast!
If you’re a Mets fan and you want Fielder, well then you are an idiot
Pelfrey is worth more than Fielder.
Much more, actually.
MUUUCCCHHHHHH MORE
Yeah, right, like he’d be willing to live in Bloomberg where McDonalds has calories on the wall and trans-fats are banned. I got your substantial package right here.
-way
Milwaukee gets: Niese, Evans, Jeff Clement
Mets get: Fielder, Putz, M. Batista
Seattle gets: Delgado, Heilman
Benefits:
Milwaukee gets three young players with strong upside in Niese, Evans (who will play 1B), and Jeff Clement as a catcher of the future.
Seattle gets out from under the Batista’s contact, gets more offense for the DH position in Delgado, and a pitcher with a lot of upside that they can try out as they rebuild, with Heilman.
The Mets get: 1B for the next 3 years in Fielder, a closer in Putz, and a veteran #5 starter that you can role the dice with and hope he’s healthy in Batista
If Milwaukee gets Fernando too, I could see it happening.
Batista’s contract is up after this year like Delgado’s and he’s owed the same amount. So basically they’d be trading their top prospect and a one of the better closers in the league coming off a bad season for no reason.
Guys, Fielder is 24… he’s going to get better. What’s wrong with adding another piece to the core and getting younger?
because hes fat, and horribly defensively…and not worth 2 or 3 of our top prospects…no point in wasting our prospects on fielder when we really need pitching
Pelfrey for Prince?? DO IT!!!
i wouldnt trade pelfrey for anyone on their team, nobody, we got to rebuild around pitching (especially for us the bullpen) and guys who actually have a pair so they get clutch hits. Where do they get these pieces? ill leave that up to omar and pray he dont screw it up.
I’m a die-hard mets fan, but It’s funny to me how everyone is bashing Fielder saying he is garbage because he is fat and how Pelfrey is worth so much more. From an unbiased view, what the hell are you talking about? Fielder is 24 and has HR totals of 28,50, and 34 in his first 3 seasons. He has two seasons of 100+ RBI’s. 30+ doubles in every season while batting with a similar batting average to Carlos Beltran. Pelfrey in that same time is much less proven. He’s played in 1 full season, which he had a good final ERA (Only for the months of July and August was his ERA below 3. Other than those 2 months his monthly era was 4+) And had a decent overall WHIP. Other than that he hasn’t had an ERA under 5 in a season (albeit with limited appearances). So how can you in your right mind say that Fielder is a bum and Pelfrey is worth so much more than him? People need to get the “Mets players have so much more value than other teams players out of your heads” If we had Fielder and the Brewers had Pelfrey would you still make that trade?? Would Pelfrey still be so much more valuable? I didn’t think so.
With that being said, I wouldn’t trade for Fielder for the simple fact that we need as much pitching as we can get right now, especially with only 3 starters returning next year. Not because Fielder is a bum. Not because he is fat. But because we need pitching more than a 1st baseman when we can have Delgado back.
I’d be willing to include Maine in the deal for him in a heartbeat, because he’s much more of a proven commodity that I’m not sure I want (6 innings, a bullpen killer, and a headache). If we can keep Pelf and give them Maine instead, I’m interested, as we can then spin Delcrapo for some starting pitching or bullpen help and then use our Type A allotment to fill in the gaps.
btw, I don’t think people were suggesting we take on all of Ordonez’s salary from Detroit, with a salary like that, we would be getting some relief back from them, so he wouldn’t cost as much as Manny, and we wouldn’t lose our Draft pick for signing him either.
i dont get y everyone is wanting maine out of NY….yea last year he was not good and only pitched 5 or 6 inings most times…but he was injured most of the year ( i personally think he was injured all year)….think back to 06…he was one of our top pitchers..we gotta give him another chance…even if he does give 6 solid innings…our bullpen wasnt good and blew all the games…any other team with a solid pen would have won those games, so if the pen is fixed then let him stay as a #4 or 5 guy…
Look at the FA market for pitchers.
Look at how much a FA with Pelfrey’s stats will probably be getting. Yes, Pelf is worth more than Fielder. You can NEVER have too much pitching.
And remember, you get Pelf for 5 years, while you get Fielder for only 3.
this doesnt have anything to do with this article but watever…garret anderson was let go by the angels and hes a quality left fielder and a veteran that has won and could be great in the club house like floyd…he usually hits around 300 with around 20 hrs and 85-90 rbis…i think hed be great for this team and would probably be pretty cheap
He’s an option and I like him, but I just don’t know if he’d fit. As in the fact he’s ageing and could possibly be hurt. He’s left-handed and not the greatest in the feild. I’d say yes to a last option in february. But as of now there are better options I’d hope.
I would have to be recieving alot to give up pelf…this guy is a future ace of this team (after santana) and will hav consistant starts every time out..he will pitch 200 innings many many many many many times….good sinker ball pitchers are hard to get but if u are lucky to get one then u are in good shape
I’m not going to go calling Feilder a far lard, bum w/e. Who in their right mind wouldn’t want him on your team? But this isn’t a realistic situation c’mon. We’re not going to trade our young stud to create another huge hole in the rotation for a postition we already have for a year. Your right, Murph doesn’t have the offensive production for a long term first base option. But he has above average offensive production as a second basemen. Catch my drift? We can live with Delgado for one more year. I know they said its unlikely but I’d really prefer Byrnes in left while a package leaving with Castio. I think the money must be spent on K-Rod.
Man, I am good. I mentioned a few times this summer about Prince being available in the off season. Along with my begging of the Mets to look into Nelson Cruz for a bat.(how did he end up doing?) ;}
As for Prince:
The Mets should try hard to get Prince. He is a legit hitter and solid fielder.
The Price? If it took just Fmart Id do it in a heartbeat.
Any package I would look hard at. Except Murphy and Pelfrey stay.
Other than that Id be willing to deal some sort of combo that would include Parnell, Fmart, Niese, Evans, Delgado etc
If they could pull that off and then focus on using some other chips for the pen we are in excellent shape,
i dont kno whaere u get solid fielder from…he is actually 1 of the worst fielding 1st basemen in the game
A solid fielder?…i dont who you watched in the field but it couldnt have been prince fielder…and the brewers would not trade him for fmart straight up
HOW CAN PPL SAY THEY WOULD TRADE PELF FOR FIELDER?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
did u guys even watch the games that pelf pitched this year…and that hes only 24..and that young pitchers are not easy to get…and pelf is the real deal…..did ny one see this guy pitch??? going deep into games..pitching shutouts…i cannot believe ppl would give him up for a 1st baseman that is worse than delgado both offensivly and defensivly. u guys who think that we should trade pelf need to get off of this blog NOWWWWWW…fielder is not that good!!!! good but not THAT good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pitching is key.
Let’s not get too ahead of ourselves.
1) This is the NY Post we’re talking about. AKA – The rag. You know – the paper they try to get rid of for like 5 or 10 cents at 3 PM in Manhattan because they’ve made to many copy’s of what’ll later become hobo’s bankies.
2) I’m sure if Fielder’s dealt – they’d want to move him to the AL. Where he can’t harm them. Not to one of the team that was in a dead heat for the NL Wild Card in the last couple of weeks of the season.
In all honesty though, I do believe he’ll be traded. If not this off-season, maybe next one. The Brewers need to signing pitching in losing Sabathia & Sheets. I wouldn’t condone trading pitching for him. The good thing about a potential trade is that Delgado’s about as good of a temporary option the Brewers could find out there for Prince. I wouldn’t trade Niese to get him because that’d make our pitching weaker in the future. I would be willing to trade Parnell though because the projections aren’t as high.
I could see moving Fernando Martinez in such a deal too because Prince is an amazing ball player. We have a great core of players in Wright, Reyes, Beltran & Santana. Throw Prince into that puzzle. This guy’s a monster. He hit 50 HR in his second season. He could match up against Howard for the next decade. It’d bring some balance. Like how Wright is to Utley. Or Reyes is to Rollins. I just don’t know if a Delgado/F-Mart/Parnell + say Evans or someone else could do it.
I just don’t expect it to happen…. But than again, how’d we end up with Johan? Suprises. If we end up with one or two nice suprises, I’ll be happy. The bullpen remains that main concern though… Perhaps K-Rod will be one of those major splashes.
Adult on-set diabetes and DHing. That is Prince’s future.