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Buzz: Mike Jacobs, Peavy Talks, Tex and CC
By Matthew Cerrone - Oct 30, 2008 11:55 am

The Kansas City Star and MLB.com report that the Marlins are close to trading 1B Mike Jacobs to the Royals for pitching prospect Leo Nunez.

Update12:40 pm

According to the Kansas City Star, the deal is official, the Marlins have acquired Leo Nunez.

Cubs 1B Derrek Lee has a no-trade clause and is not likely to be traded, suggests a reporter for the Daily Herald in Chicago.

According to FoxSports.com, the Padres and Braves are at an impasse regarding Jake Peavy, since San Diego is seeking five players from Atlanta.

Also, Rosenthal lists the Yankees, Angels and Red Sox, not the Mets, as potential suitors for free-agent Mark Teixeira.

Lastly, though the Brewers may offer CC Sabathia a four-year, $100 million contract, Rosenthal expects him to be offered more from the Yankees, Angels and Dodgers.

if i had a dollar for every person in baseball who has told me the Yankees intend to do everything possible to acquire sabathia, i could retire…seriously, it seems to a popular idea that they’ll try to blow him over with years and money…that said, if he wants to pitch on the west coast, like so many people think, i’m not sure how they compete with that – unless of course he’s just using that to get the Yankees to over-play their hand

51 Responses to “Buzz: Mike Jacobs, Peavy Talks, Tex and CC”

  1. Lidge=Mitch Williams says:

    I believe the Mets should not pursue any of the listed names. We, as fans, have countless times have said the team’s biggest concern is the bullpen, followed by the outfield and second base. The Mets can acquire a starter but not a CC or Peavy. Although Peavy would be a great fit. The Padres would require the entire farm for Peavy. And the Mets already have a sparse sytem.

    Work on the pressing needs Omar then work from there.

  2. zen says:

    Manny Ramirez doesn’t fit the Yankees’ desire to get younger and more athletic, but several industry sources believe the Yankees will make a serious push for the free agent to play right field next year.

    –SI

    • dave27 says:

      The Yankees under the baby Steins are all about selling thier $2,500 tickets and blustering about winning without having any clue how to actually do it.

  3. Dirtysanchez says:

    Well at least the ws is over and the hotstove begins…

  4. AzMetsFan says:

    I hope that Mike jacobs deal goes through. I’m tired of seeing him and his crooked hat 18 games a year.

  5. Centerfield says:

    One can only hope Rosenthal is wrong, or the Mets are playing it close to the vest. It would be foolish not to go for Texiera. He is the best position player available, and the most sound investment that can be made this winter. (Much safer than CC or Manny)

    The Mets should trade Delgado while he has some value and make a strong run at signing Tex (the difference in salary would likely be in the range of $6 million). I would much rather take on the additional salary than have to count on Delgado to repeat his second half performance.

    • hbrill61 says:

      I have to agree with you…sign Texiera and use Delgado for some bullpen help.

    • kingman 26 says:

      I have to respectfully disagree…more offense is always nice, but we have plenty of offense, and could have even more if Murphy continues to play as he did in 2007.

      We need pitching, and I think that a huge investment in a free agent should be CC first, and if not him, maybe KRod as a second option.

      Pitching, as they say, wins titles. As it did for us in 69 and 86.

      Tex is an excellent player and a serious hustler though, that is for sure.

    • darkstar73 says:

      it’s a pretty big risk to either trade Delgado first, and then expect to be able to sign Texeira, and or, sign Texeira while Delgado is still under contract, and then expect to be able to trade him for anything of worth, especially after teams would see that we were in a bad position, with 2 first basemen, no one would give us fair value. The only way that works is if you just decline Delgado’s contract and then hope to sign Texiera, which is also no given. So basically, we keep Delgado another year. Texeira is nice and all, but he’s no game changer. We need pitching, pitching, and more pitching.

      • MetLifer says:

        Exactly my thoughts… We’re between a rock and a hard place with Delgado.

        Also, I’m a little worried about Tex. He is a notorious slow starter. If during the first month and a half, he’s batting .200 and the fans start booing the heck out of him, wIll he abe able to recover?

    • SovereignRonnie says:

      CF, I don’t know if it would be “foolish” to go after Tex. This year, Tex had a higher WARP (11 to 7.8), more runs created (134 to 108), and is obviously a better fielder. Tex no doubt makes this team better… but does the upgrade from Delgado to Tex = an additional 6 million/year (and a 5, 6 year commitment) + loss of pick?

      Plus, that 6 million can now not be used to help upgrade from, say, Luis Ayala to K Rod or Tatis to Manny.

      Tex is definitely an option, but we have no idea what Minaya’s budget is (if he has one), what the plan is, etc. I don’t think “foolish” would be an appropriate description here. I think there are more pressing needs that have to be addressed.

      • SovereignRonnie says:

        *foolish to NOT go after Tex, sorry for the typo

      • Centerfield says:

        Picking up Texiera would lessen the need for a leftfielder the level of Manny. And given the choice, Texiera is a much smarter investment than Manny.

        We are looking at the loss of a pick, whether we sign someone at first base, or LF.

        I don’t think signing Texiera would preclude us from pursuing a free agent closer, though personally I would stay away from KRod. But that’s another discussion altogther.

        • Elvis says:

          Re Centerfield on signing Texiera … fully, fully agree … Tex is a great type of player to have on team, another core guy … terrific defensive player, switch hitter, fairly young, i think he’s been durable, and good solid hitter… he is first base equivalent of beltran. i would go all out to get him, save some $$ by starting with pagan in LF (would make great defensive outfield with beltran and church), and give murphy a shot at 2B. if he can’t cut it at 2b by June, move murphy to left and sit pagan down.

    • ravi3 says:

      Problem with the Tex/Delgado scenario is this:

      If you trade Delgado BEFORE signing Tex: Teixeira becomes a MUST for Omar to sign…Boras would know it, and make the Wilpons pay up even more, reducing the team’s financial flexibility

      If you trade Delgado AFTER signing Tex: Teams know that you have to move Carlos, and his trade value will go down.

      Of course you can say that you would trade Delgado the moment that Tex is signed, but that would be quite difficult, especially with Boras being a part of the negotiation…

  6. FSMetFan says:

    did anyone else see jay horowitz on the field after the phillies won last night…what the hell?

  7. KickedintheMetsiclesAgain says:

    Nest position player available does not mean he is worth mega bucks.

    To me, he is a Beltran type. Yes, very good all the way around, but not a super star offensively (i.e. not an AROD, not a Manny, not a Vlad, not a Maggs).

    He is not worth the huge dollars.

    I would keep Delgado, and then promote from within (hopefully) the following year.

    • Gina says:

      Tex isn’t a superstar offensively? And I don’t think another Beltran type would hurt this team at all. Especially if we managed to move Delgado for anything. We really don’t have many options to promote from within, we’re going to have to fill either first base, past this year with a fa or lf, we don’t really have inhouse options for both positions.

      • SovereignRonnie says:

        Gina, are you off the Nick Evans bandwagon already???

        • Gina says:

          No I’m saying Evans could go in lf. I like Evans a lot but not enough to think there’s no reason to go after a first basemen that plays defense and hits the way Tex does.

        • SovereignRonnie says:

          I think Evans could go at 1b and (perhaps) the plan is to have Fernando ready by then? I’d love Tex too but is the extra $6 mil really worth it for a WARP upgrade of ~3? I think we have other more pressing holes to fill.

        • Gina says:

          In my opinion it is when he’ll fill the space past this year. Plus we don’t know what Delgado’s numbers will look like next year, I don’t think it’s very reasonable to expect a repeat of this year, maybe he won’t be as bad as 07 but I’d expect him to continue to decline. You wouldn’t just be paying 6 million for an upgrade of 3. You’d be paying an extra 6 million for a long-term solution and consistent production.

          Not that I’m saying we should go after him because his contract demands are insane and he’ll likely get some team to bite because there’s no one better available, just that it might be worth it.

        • Gina says:

          Also I don’t have a lot of faith in the long-term worth of Church, if that makes any sense, so I think we’ll have plenty of places to stick Fernando/Evans/someone else who shows up if we were to sign Tex.

        • SovereignRonnie says:

          I don’t know, Gina. As the Phillies showed, guys with soul patches are vital to a team’s success. Church is really our only hope in this area.

  8. Jaded1983 says:

    it seems to me as a purely fan standpoint that the yanks do not seem as an attractive place to go as they once did for big FAs.

    Yes they have the money, but a lot of players “appear” to rather play elsewhere. Anyone else get the same feeling?

    • Gina says:

      I would agree but unfortunately I think a part of it is the ridiculous nature of the NY Media which applies to us too.

      • wrightstuff08 says:

        The problem with holding on to Delgado is you dont know which Delgado (good/bad offense) you get and we have a big hole in the lineup next year to fill. Tex is available this year and i dont see any good FA options at first base next year. Plus, i dont think Tex will require the 10yr/200 million contract eveyone thinks he’ll get. 6yr/100 million might do it.

        • kingman 26 says:

          He will get WAY more than 6/100 mil.

        • Gina says:

          I agree, his starting asking price is supposed to be 10 years 200 mil+ or something ridiculous.

        • wrightstuff08 says:

          “his starting asking price is supposed to be 10 years 200 mil+ or something ridiculous”

          That doesnt mean Tex will get that contract. There is no way he gets 10 years, that is just Boras BS. He will get 6 or 7 years max at 18- 20 million.

        • Gina says:

          Why wouldn’t he when there are pretty much 0 other first base options near his level. And he has at least two, possibly 3 or 4 if we and/or the Red Sox get involved, big market teams bidding for him. Two of whom, the Yankees and Angels, have a good amount of money coming off the books.

        • wrightstuff08 says:

          gina, we can agree to disagree but i dont see Tex getting 10 years. No big market really needs him except the Angels. we have Carlos, the Sox have Youkilis, and the Yanks can resign Giambi much cheaper and short term. Also, there are the whispers about Tex being a selfish player that is only worried about personal stats. All of these factors will drop his price down.

      • kingman 26 says:

        Plus, the Yankees are not looked at as a sure place to play in the postseason anymore. A huge part of the core of their team is aging/old, with little coming up behind them.

        Plus, the Red Sox and Rays should be good for quite a while, and if the Blue Jays ever put it together, the Yanks could be looking at fighting the Orioles for 4th place for years.

        Would that be nice or what??

        • Gina says:

          Fwiw, the orioles actually have a lot of young talent, similar to the rays, I wouldn’t be shocked if the Yankees were the 5th best team in that division next year.

        • kingman 26 says:

          The Orioles under Angelos seem to have some sort of Midas Touch in reverse going, but Gina, that scenario of yours would be A-OK with your fellow Nets fan here.

  9. Centerfield says:

    Texiera is an offensive superstar. He’s in the top ten in all of the majors in OPS, and is the only one of the ten that is available. He is not Manny, not A-Rod, but he is better than Vlad, and in another league over Ordonez.

    He is also an excellent fielder, and at 28, about to enter the prime of his career. He is exactly the type of player that warrants a big-money, long-term deal. Even with Delgado’s MVP-type year, Texiera still beat him in OPS by 90 points.

    For a difference of approximately $6 million, in salary for next year, you can either insert a legitimate superstar into the lineup, or cross your fingers and hope that Delgado’s resurgence can last another season.

    Timing will be tough, and I would not trade Delgado until Texiera is signed. Once that is done, as long as the negotiations don’t drag too long, I think you will find a taker for Delgado. If he gets something back of value, great. If not, then just clear his salary.

    That leaves plenty of room left in payroll to address the pitching while solidifying the middle of the order.

  10. therealsince86 says:

    Interesting trade from the Marlins stand point. They traded Jacobs for a 25 year old middle reliever. Either Jacobs is crap (admitted) or this is going to be a tough year to obtain middle relievers.

    • kingman 26 says:

      Nunez does have pretty good stats and is young and improving…so it may indeed be tough to acquire anything worthwhile for the bullpen.

      And Jacobs is pretty bad…he is kind of like a crappier version of a certain player who played for the Mets on two occasions and was really only capable of hitting tape-measure home runs and little else…I forget his name…..

  11. Gina says:

    According to the mlbtraderumors the Jacobs deal is official. Which I don’t understand since he’s horrible and they have better cheaper first base options.

    Really the KC front office makes my head hurt. Maybe we could trade them a package of like Heilman and Castillo for Soria, it’s not like they haven’t done crazy things in the past.

    • Jacobs has a little pop in that bat. He will probably bat cleanup for them. That being said, they are horrible. But nobody must be more miserable than our old pal Mike Jacobs. Wonder how the club scene is in KC.

  12. Seaver41 says:

    Who the %$#$ is “Jacons Nunez”?