Comments on: eMailbag: Pedro as Closer, Mentality of a Closer http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/30/emailbag-pedro-as-closer-mentality-of-a-closer/ MetsBlog.com features the latest Mets rumors, player movement, and news circulating around the Internet, as well as Mets related insights and opinions by Matthew Cerrone and his team of guest bloggers. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:29:17 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: itsmetsforme http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/30/emailbag-pedro-as-closer-mentality-of-a-closer/#comment-381446 itsmetsforme Sun, 02 Nov 2008 02:22:25 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/30/emailbag-pedro-as-closer-mentality-of-a-closer/#comment-381446 Albert S asks: “Hey how come nobody’s is talking about making pedro next year closer.” Everyone else asks: "Hey Albert S., how come you didn't watch a single Mets game this season yet are still asking questions?" Albert S asks:
“Hey how come nobody’s is talking about making pedro next year closer.”

Everyone else asks:
“Hey Albert S., how come you didn’t watch a single Mets game this season yet are still asking questions?”

]]> By: nyj0126 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/30/emailbag-pedro-as-closer-mentality-of-a-closer/#comment-380421 nyj0126 Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:25:04 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/30/emailbag-pedro-as-closer-mentality-of-a-closer/#comment-380421 The off-season could be simpler than most people make it. If there's any intelligence, here's how I'd do it. You could use the same logic as having to take a dump on a dirty bowl lol Would any you really sit on a dirty toilet? At least one that's not yours? I hope not. What would you do? Clean it. You'd take off what's not ''desired.'' Here is who that is in the Mets bullpen: Luis Ayala (5.50 ERA in NYM) ; Aaron Heilman, Scott Schoenweis and we're lucky enough to have Billy Wagner already done. Wipe away Pedro. Wipe away Castillo. Wipe away Alou. Schoenweis is left-handed and at market value so someone is out there to take him. Probably Detroit. I don't know what you could get back for Heilman, but if he's packaged than we'll see. The only player who'll be a burden is Castillo. We'll have to take a Jose Guillen, Juan Pierre or Aaron Rowand (good player but bad contract) back in a trade. I know people don't like Guillen, but he'd command higher trade value at the deadline than Castillo ever could if we didn't want him anymore. I'm not necessarily recommending that move though. 30 million can get us a closer, a 3 pitcher and a couple good set up men. Everything beyond that is adding onto what's already there. The off-season could be simpler than most people make it. If there’s any intelligence, here’s how I’d do it. You could use the same logic as having to take a dump on a dirty bowl lol Would any you really sit on a dirty toilet? At least one that’s not yours? I hope not. What would you do? Clean it. You’d take off what’s not ”desired.”

Here is who that is in the Mets bullpen: Luis Ayala (5.50 ERA in NYM) ; Aaron Heilman, Scott Schoenweis and we’re lucky enough to have Billy Wagner already done. Wipe away Pedro. Wipe away Castillo. Wipe away Alou. Schoenweis is left-handed and at market value so someone is out there to take him. Probably Detroit. I don’t know what you could get back for Heilman, but if he’s packaged than we’ll see. The only player who’ll be a burden is Castillo. We’ll have to take a Jose Guillen, Juan Pierre or Aaron Rowand (good player but bad contract) back in a trade. I know people don’t like Guillen, but he’d command higher trade value at the deadline than Castillo ever could if we didn’t want him anymore. I’m not necessarily recommending that move though. 30 million can get us a closer, a 3 pitcher and a couple good set up men. Everything beyond that is adding onto what’s already there.

]]> By: nyj0126 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/30/emailbag-pedro-as-closer-mentality-of-a-closer/#comment-380417 nyj0126 Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:14:09 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/30/emailbag-pedro-as-closer-mentality-of-a-closer/#comment-380417 Pedro Martinez has about as little of a right to be on the Mets next season as Moises Alou. He's old and has lost his game. I promise I hope the best for him. Unless he's like a coach though, why bring him back? He wants to keep pitching. We know he'd never settle for a minor league deal. Wish him well and that's that. While we're at it, find a taker for Schoenweis. Someone is out there. And Heilman too. Pedro Martinez has about as little of a right to be on the Mets next season as Moises Alou. He’s old and has lost his game. I promise I hope the best for him. Unless he’s like a coach though, why bring him back? He wants to keep pitching. We know he’d never settle for a minor league deal. Wish him well and that’s that. While we’re at it, find a taker for Schoenweis. Someone is out there. And Heilman too.

]]> By: nyj0126 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/30/emailbag-pedro-as-closer-mentality-of-a-closer/#comment-380416 nyj0126 Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:12:17 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/30/emailbag-pedro-as-closer-mentality-of-a-closer/#comment-380416 Exactly. I don't know if there's a nice way to say it, but Pedro just isn't a Met anymore. He had his moments here in '05. And half of '06. But since than he's either been on the shelf or has been horrible. He's been a useless overpaid dud for the past 2 1/2 seasons. Piazza was awesome up until '03 when he got hurt and declined. We dealt with his injuries, awkward transition to 1B and mediocre hitting because we had his contract. But when he became a FA, it was time to cut ties. The same thing has to be done with Pedro. Exactly. I don’t know if there’s a nice way to say it, but Pedro just isn’t a Met anymore. He had his moments here in ‘05. And half of ‘06. But since than he’s either been on the shelf or has been horrible. He’s been a useless overpaid dud for the past 2 1/2 seasons. Piazza was awesome up until ‘03 when he got hurt and declined. We dealt with his injuries, awkward transition to 1B and mediocre hitting because we had his contract. But when he became a FA, it was time to cut ties. The same thing has to be done with Pedro.

]]> By: nyj0126 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/30/emailbag-pedro-as-closer-mentality-of-a-closer/#comment-380415 nyj0126 Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:10:25 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/30/emailbag-pedro-as-closer-mentality-of-a-closer/#comment-380415 Brad Lidge is a good closer. He's proven to all of us he's turned a corner. There's no question the Phillies provided him both plenty of opportunities with multiple run leads, but he simply did his job. Even when he made things interesting. The problem for him is he's getting old and has had arm problems. He'll only decline from this point on. By the last year of his contract, he may look like Billy to us. Brad Lidge is a good closer. He’s proven to all of us he’s turned a corner. There’s no question the Phillies provided him both plenty of opportunities with multiple run leads, but he simply did his job. Even when he made things interesting. The problem for him is he’s getting old and has had arm problems. He’ll only decline from this point on. By the last year of his contract, he may look like Billy to us.

]]> By: nyj0126 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/30/emailbag-pedro-as-closer-mentality-of-a-closer/#comment-380414 nyj0126 Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:09:00 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/30/emailbag-pedro-as-closer-mentality-of-a-closer/#comment-380414 I don't want to be rude, but that idea has no logic. Pedro Martinez's worst inning was the 1st. The only current SP the Mets would ever consider the idea about is Maine because he's got more of the make up of it, he's had arm problems and he's simply not as good as Johan or Pelfrey. I don’t want to be rude, but that idea has no logic. Pedro Martinez’s worst inning was the 1st. The only current SP the Mets would ever consider the idea about is Maine because he’s got more of the make up of it, he’s had arm problems and he’s simply not as good as Johan or Pelfrey.

]]> By: gomets6091 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/30/emailbag-pedro-as-closer-mentality-of-a-closer/#comment-380396 gomets6091 Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:16:18 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/30/emailbag-pedro-as-closer-mentality-of-a-closer/#comment-380396 if Aaron Heilman is a boon to the Mets pen next year, I will eat a Philly if Aaron Heilman is a boon to the Mets pen next year, I will eat a Philly

]]> By: gomets6091 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/30/emailbag-pedro-as-closer-mentality-of-a-closer/#comment-380395 gomets6091 Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:15:07 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/30/emailbag-pedro-as-closer-mentality-of-a-closer/#comment-380395 I still say that Brad Lidge doesn't have the mentality to be a closer. Once he blows that first save in Philly, oh boy... I still say that Brad Lidge doesn’t have the mentality to be a closer. Once he blows that first save in Philly, oh boy…

]]> By: gomets6091 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/30/emailbag-pedro-as-closer-mentality-of-a-closer/#comment-380394 gomets6091 Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:13:48 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/30/emailbag-pedro-as-closer-mentality-of-a-closer/#comment-380394 because it's wacky! because it’s wacky!

]]> By: gomets6091 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/30/emailbag-pedro-as-closer-mentality-of-a-closer/#comment-380393 gomets6091 Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:13:24 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/10/30/emailbag-pedro-as-closer-mentality-of-a-closer/#comment-380393 blowjob = not a banned word. I think we should start substituting it for random words, like: Man, Wright really blowjobbed with Murphy on 3rd there... blowjob = not a banned word. I think we should start substituting it for random words, like:

Man, Wright really blowjobbed with Murphy on 3rd there…

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