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According to Bill Ladson of MLB.com, RHP Chad Cordero refused assignment and is now a free agent.
Cordero had surgery in July to repair a torn labrum, missed the rest of the season, and is expected to be ready for Spring Training.
…i would not go nuts for cordero…i get that he’s been a very, very good pitcher, but you’ll be hard pressed to find any one who returned to form following that type of surgery…it’s a gamble…
…Omar Minaya almost certainly will have interest, seeing as reportedly tried to trade for him each of the last three seasons…
The 26–year-old Cordero has yet to finish a season with an ERA above 3.36 in his six-year career, during which he has been successful 83 percent of the time in save opportunities, while striking out 292 batters in 320 innings.
Can we avoid pitchers with arm problems?
What exactly is so wrong with giving a 26 year old reliever with tremendous success a chance after rehabbing from injury? This is an absolute no brainer.
100% correct.
This isn’t an injury. It’s a torn labrum. This is your shoulder.
Rehabbing an injury means he had tendinitis, not a torn shoulder.
You rehab every injury. Especially ones from which you have surgery.
Does anyone actually think there is a chance we DONT get Cordero. He is a former Expo. Omar will give him two or three overpriced seasons just to reunite him with Endy, Tatis, Schneider, Church, Ayala, (not to mention Vargas and Tony Armas). Omar distinctly remembers those 03-04 Expos as juggernauts and so he tries to get as many of them as possible for the Mets.
Also, I think Cordero is worth a flier. Just pointing out the distinctly French Canadian feel that Omar is bringing to the fringes of our roster.
You’re like a guy who is starving to death saying, “No, I don’t like Cheerios. I’ll wait for Rice Krispies instead.”
If we can bring him in for cheap, why not? He’s not the answer to our problems, but he could possibly be a diamond in the rough. Torn labrum is tough to come back from, but if he can still be effective then that’s one less arm we need for the bullpen.
He’s only 26. He’s got youth on hos side. Give him an incentive laden deal and take a shot.
I say definitely take a chance on the guy. hes not the solution at closer but if he rehabs well and can contribute in the 7th or 8th its a genius move. he should be cheap and he is still young, why not.
Sign him to a cheap deal. Minor league if possible. He’s had success in the past and is still young. Can’t hurt to add a guy like him and let him compete for a spot.
Sure, but will he accept that? Is he able to get a guarantee from another team? If so, would you match it?
No he won’t. However, what is wrong with signing him to a 1 year MLB deal? As the Mets can we really be sweating out a 1-2 million dollar deal? Now, if another team is willing to offer a multiyear deal? Pas s.
Exactly. I usually don’t agree with you thereal, but you are spot-on on this topic. Throw a 1-year offer worth 1-2 mil, maybe with a club option for a second year, and if he declines let him walk.
I’m not sure too many teams are going to be chomping at the bit to sign this guy, especially since we saw what happened to Gagne. Different injury, but the results could easily be the same. But if he turns out to be a Luis Ayala-type or better, why not stick him in the pen?
His upside is still higher than guys like Affeldt and Beimel, who will get monster deals like Show got. I can’t imagine a team not giving him a guaranteed contract for a year or two.
I’m going to guess he might be more inclined to come here because of Omar.
Not sure of the other teams that would be interested in him. I’m not sure a team woul give him a closing job from the get-go. I’d need to know more details to decide if I’d match it.
DEFINTELY won’t sign him up for closer, but why not give the guy a 1 yr deal, with an option perhaps? I think becuase of the tendancy of a bullpen to fluctuate year in year out, the best way to build the bullpen (aside from the key guys..i.e. closer) is to throw stuff on the wall and see what sticks…he can’t be any worse then what we have, right?
Yeah — one year, $2mil with a $3mil tem option for 2010 and a 500K buyout
No. Avoid injured pitchers.
Why? What does it really cost us besides money? So what if he gets injured? You really think that 1-2 million is going to hinder the team?
Having 14 average pitchers didn’t help us last September.
Who was average in the pen besides Smith and Stokes?
Yes, obviously depending on the level of committment
high risk, high reward
Look sign him to a 1 year contract similar to Wise last season. Let him know that AT THIS POINT he can compete for the closer role as suming that we do not sign a bonafied closer. Bring him, Juan Cruz and Eddie Guardado in. You could sign all 3 of those for less than it would cost for Fuentes.
Sounds good to me. That improves the bullpen, and leaves more $$ to improve in other areas.
+1. I like this idea
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Fire Isiah!
haha I’m not THE points guy…but I do like the idea of giving out points. It’s easier than actually typing a reply, plus I know it won’t get blocked by the SS, er, spam filter
+2 on this idea!
I do like it! I’m starting to believe it may be better to hedge your bets with 3 average set up men rather than have 1 elite closer and 2 awful middle relievers.
Contract Offering:
2 Years
3.5 Million Peanuts
14 Hot Dogs
1 Paid Surgery
No thanks.
I would love if they got him. Either a minor league deal, or something like Prior, where you invest a modest amount of money, and hope if works out.
If you want to give Fuentes 12mill a year, then 1 million on a make-good for Chad is a no brainer!
Even better, back load a 3 year deal with 2 option years, that are easily vestable if he stays healthy.
Cordero, Cruz and Affeldt say coming in, would be a vast improvemnt over what they got. The closer may be in that group, and if it ends up being someone else, they can just have a really good set up crew!
I wouldn’t sign COrdero for 3/15 guaranteed money, but I doubt any team will.
Wright on!
wow…
Prior pitched a lot this year…
So what? What did it really cost them?
I completely agree. However I favor Beimel over Affeldt.
I wouldn’t mind signing him to a cheap/minor league deal but that’s about it. Like a signing were if it works out awesome, if it doesn’t nothing lost.
News: Chad Cordero has arm troubles and tops out at 80 and isn’t even that great when hes healthy
People on here are making it sound like we’re the only team going after him and that yeah well just give a minor league deal…it doesnt work like that…im sure every team in the majors would sign him to a minor league deal
Why if: “Chad Cordero has arm troubles and tops out at 80 and isn’t even that great when hes healthy”
If we took a chance on Duaner Sanchez (who really didn’t have a bad year), why not Cordero? And who says he tops out at 80? Please provide sources for claims of that sort because if he only tops out at 80 mph than he better learn to flip burgers.
And no, we don’t think that we are the only team interested in him, which is why many of us are saying to offer an inexpensive 1-year deal. If he declines, let him walk.
I think this is a no-brainer…why the heck wouldn’t you sign him?
When healthy he was a great pitcher…86% save percentage is pretty good, as we have learned with our bullpen, you need skills and the ability to close (the mental aspect). He’s got both when healthy. I’d even offer him up to 4 mil a year on a 2 year contract, if he can prove he’s healthy (get an aok from Dr. Andrews, who i’m sure did his surgery.)
86% save percentage would’ve probably gotten us the division by about 5 games last year. definitely worth taking a flier on the guy.
sign him to a one year mlb deal. it can’t hurt and it gives chad incentive to get well and pitch lights out to get a better deal in ‘10. this is a no-lose deal.
Random thought of the morning: Akinori Iwamura makes more money per year than Dioner Navaro, Evan Longoria, BJ Upton, Matt Garza, Andy Sonnanstine, David Price, and Edwin Jackson combined.
…as for the Mets, please tell me why a team playing in the largest market in the game has to resort to finding a needle in a haystack to fill one of the most important roles on the club…
You mean a team that has been horrid for ten years and has a top draft pick each year has youg stars that are controllable players? Not much of a surprise…
Only like 5 of the players on their roster who contributed this year were drafted by them, and only 2 of them were drafted in the first round, the other 3 were all drafted after like the 6th. The vast majority of their current roster was traded for or signed by Friedman when he took over in 05.
Once again, Gina, you’re letting facts get in the way of some random public opinion!
I dont believe you, theres no way theyd be able to acquire a young ace for nothing…
Those names you mentioned (Upton, Longoria, Price, etc) were very high draft picks the Rays got for being such a bad team all those years. The Mets are too good to get those kind of picks.
The two were unrelated thoughts. I was looking at Tampa’s payroll on mlbtraderumors and found that fact interesting…
Agreed. The conversation should begin and end with KRod. I also think we could swing Sabathia. Fill out the rest via trades. I bet Murphy out hits Holliday on the road.
We won’t be signing Krod AND CC. Sure we could but we won’t.
I am fine with Krod if he would sign early and for 4/60. I would offer him that as soon as possible and give him until the winter meetings (about 2 weeks) to accept it or decline it.
I’m fairly sure they aren’t looking at Cordero as a closer….Certainly they will pursue others to fill the 9th inning.
I think a lot of teams are going to be in on Cordero. Sign him to an incentive laden two year deal and let him know there’s no rush. If he comes back near to form, we have a setup man or possible closer, if he never comes back, then we lose some cash.
If you bring in Cordero, anyone else who thinks they are a closer will not sign. I don’t think Cordero will come if he has to compete. In his mind, he will be ready, and in his mind he is a closer. He may understand that he will not get the 3-5 year deal he could have recieved in his first year of free agency if he had not been injured, and may be ameable to a heavily incentive laden deal, or may opt for a one year deal and test the market after he proves he is healthy.
Basically, Nat’s said he wasn’t worth 4.8 million (minimum he could have been offered in arbitration) $4 million guaranteed with easily obtained incentive money may lure him for a season.
I agree. I think Juan Cruz would jump on a CHANCE to close as would Eddie Guardado. Bringing in those 3 would totally change our pen without costing much money.
Cruz
Guardado
Cordero
Stokes
Parnell
Smith
LOOGY or I could see Sanchez or Kunz.
Meh on Guardado….Heilman if healthy is a better pitcher, and will be in the pen next season. If anything, cut bait with Sanchez, who will never return to 2006 form, as he lost his velocity.
But why continue the road with Heilman? He might do well for 2 weeks blow one game and then the negative vibes start up again. He can’t handle the boos and the pressure in NY. You can see it.
Guardado has closer experience and pitched well for Texas last season. He will cost virtually nothing.
I disagree….I did a whole breakdown of Heilman yesterday, and frankly if he is healthy next season, he will be a big upgrade by himself.
At the same time, if you could move him for equal talent, then thats something you explore, but after last year, I’d think that they’d get 50 cents on the dollar for Heilman. If thats the case, why not give him a chance to see if he can get back on track. He was a great setup man for 2.5 seasons since moving to the pen. To cut him after an injury plagued season is a disservice to the team.
He just can’t handle the pressure here. You can see it in his face. He brought the entire pen down last year. It was a running count on pitches before he gave up a HR. Yes he was successful for 2 years here but as soon as he blew one game the crowd turned on him. If you can’t tell it bothers him then we will just have to agree to disagree.
agreed real. Im sure aaron will have a bounce back season next year but its just the mentality portion im worryed about. His stuff has always been there but his location was not and that killed him. I think just like ayala he would be better off somewhere else. He jumped from a 3.06 era to a 5.24 era in one year. I think its pretty safe to say he will have to work really hard to go over a 5.24 era next year and his stuff is too good to let that happen. Lets do a win win for everyone. Heilman thrives on another team, we get talent from him.
‘hey…we’re getting the old expo gang together…’
no brainer. mets have cash to burn. bringing in re-habbing pitchers with good makeup is just another path to building depth.
if minaya has a little bit of an inside track, exploit it.
I would also trade for Rafel Betancourt. He will be a salary dump for them. Maybe we could get him for a guy like Feliciano or Heilman.
i remember watching betancourt during the 2007 playoff games between the yankees and the indians…i think it was the one where joba was being attacked by the bugs, which, incidentally, looked like one of the funniest sight gags ever, anywhere. we were watching betancourt pitch and he was completely unhittable– the exact kind of pitcher we were hoping the mets could develop. i understand he wasn’t so great 2008 season…wasn’t really paying him much attention, but if we can get him and he reverts to the way he pitched in 2007, he is an absolute no brainer.
We need guys who attack hitters, not nibble at the strike zone with sliders and changeups.
That being said, I like Betancourt…he has a pretty low walk rate and has filthy stuff. He did seem to lose a lot of command this season and had Aaron Heilman syndrome, where he fell behind in the count early and had to serve up a fastball the rest of the way. However, even though he had a career high 25 walks in 72 IP last season, that isn’t astronomically high and there is reason to believe he can definitely return to his 2007 form next year.
Betancourt was so bad this year and had a history of steroids (he was suspended for them in 2007 I believe).
I think he is worth a gamble, but what was the reason for his terrible season? Diminished stuff? Head case? Bad luck?
*Holding box of tissues* Anybody here a Mets fan?
Is it the box of tissues that came with the Dora band-aids on eBay?
Hmmm. I like the idea of signing him. Get him, Cuz, and Affeldt/Beimel, then we may have somethin here. Good bullpen at a bargain. Bargain, right? No carzy wantings from the players?
If the Mets sign him they better put a clause in his contract forcing him to put a bend in his cap. He looks like a chav.
I’d sooner go after Cruz, Beimel, maybe Affeldt. At this point, Heilman is too far gone to be useful; the first dinger he gives up, the crowds will be riding him unmercifully.