Comments on: First Base: I want Teixeira, So Do Red Sox

By: Razor Shines

Razor Shines — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:39:06 +0000

I love Tex and have wanted him all summer and even now want Delgado dealt…. BUT… he always has awful April/Mays. Always. It’s the kind of thing you have to look at every year’s splits to appreciate.

I’m not so sure the Mets will be patient like they have been in Texas. He had a relatively decent first couple of months in Atlanta (270 average hiding a 430 slugg) and they were slightly down on him… I can just see a terrible slump turning into boos now….

By: lil pelf

lil pelf — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:21:28 +0000

i dont get why him looking for a seven year contract is a bad thing, wouldnt we want this guy for the next seven years?

By: iluvbuckner

iluvbuckner — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:16:55 +0000

The second coming of Omar Minaya ladies and gentlemen!

By: darkstar73

darkstar73 — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:49:21 +0000

i think there’s probably some sort of market out there for him, but not for the type of closer we want to get. Whatever we would get back for Delgado, probably wouldn’t be enough to justify trading him while taking the risk of not being able to replace his numbers and more with a guy like Texiera. Might seem like standing still to many out there (and I know people hate that) but sticking with Delgado for ’09 seems like a smart move to me. If we keep Delgado, improve the pen and the starting pitching, and either/or on the LF/2B situation, we’d have a team ready to compete for it all next year in my opinion.

By: bigchart333

bigchart333 — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:21:00 +0000

yeah i hear ya man…i mean, i love to play “fantasy GM” as much as the next person, but you gotta be realisitc…i just read on mlbtraderumors that the a’s are looking for a power bat on a one year deal…maybe delgado fits that mold for them and we can somehow get Street from them..not saying street is the devastating closer we need, but he’s still young and has had success…i’d rather have Tex and Street than Delgado and maybe a couple prospects…but again, not to beat a dead horse, is there REALLY a market for delgado? He had a great 2/3 of season for us, but a horrible season and a 1/3 prior…so which delgado are you getting in 09?

By: darkstar73

darkstar73 — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:49:46 +0000

obviously you would do that, all i’m saying is that this scenario is kind of far fetched, and Matt continually mentioning it like he is, without considering the points I’m making, kind of feeds into the fans perspective that Omar isn’t “doing enough”. It happens year after year, and still, people cannot realize that this whole free agent/trade game is not a one-sided deal, it takes 2 or 3 parties to make these things happen, with many variables. Obviously, everyone knows Texiera is “exactly what this lineup needs” or whatever Matt said, that kind of commentary is trivial to me.

By: bigchart333

bigchart333 — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:29:16 +0000

well in Matt’s defense, i mean, can you realistically predict where the mets are gonna go? Omar has shown a tendency to trade for young and old guys while signing old guys. He finds a few diamonds in the rough, makes a big splash etc etc…

what with how many holes this team needs to fill, and all the names available, i really have no clue what this team is gonna do. If i have to make a guess, i’ll say he’ll trade for a closer…but who will he trade? Do we even have the chips…to be honest with u, yeah, i can’t see ANY TEAM taking on delgado, much less for an attractive closer. I mean, maybe the jays will wanna salary dump Ryan and bring home Delgado…the point i was trying to make was that if there is indeed a market for Delgado AND a chance to sign tex, i think you have to do that everytime

then u can figure out how u wanna restock the bullpen while allowing a young Murphy to develop

By: darkstar73

darkstar73 — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:23:14 +0000

the thing is, while baseball fans on this site live in these fantasy worlds, baseball team and GMs and players, don’t. It’s nice to say, hey, lets go out and sign this guy, but that player has to put his name on the paper himself, and some people can’t comprehend that fact. They want Omar to just “do it”. The analysis of all this Delgado/Texiera talk on this site is severely lacking in my eyes. Cerrone has been saying the same thing for months and he can’t seem to come up with anything else about it. It’s like once he gets an idea in his head, he writes it down on his blog, and then he’ll stick with that until something actually happens. No new ideas, no originality, nothing.

By: bigchart333

bigchart333 — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:16:27 +0000

in an ideal world, and if all the stars are aligned, yes, you trade delgado and others (heilman and carp, etc) to the M’s for Putz or Jays for Ryan or even A’s for Street
Then you sign Texiera and convert Murphy to LF
you’d be insane NOT to do those 2 deals everytime

Then you try to sign Lowe or Garland to fill Ollie’s spot. Also remember, Ollie is TYPE A, so the picks we lose by signing tex and other type A’s, we can get 2 back from wherever Ollie signs.

Then you have your “pick of the litter” in available type A relievers in Juan Cruz, Bob Howry, Damaso Marte, and Type B relievers in Jeremy Affeldt, Luis Ayala, Joe Beimel, Brandon Lyon, Dennys Reyes, even David Weathers…

By: BigDaddyKirk

BigDaddyKirk — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:09:18 +0000

Couldn’t agree more, Gina. Look at Teixeira’s career numbers. The last switch hitter to start a career with numbers like that was Mickey Mantle. Even on a 7 year deal, he’ll be 36, and likely still productive. This shouldn’t even be up for discussion.