News: Wright and Beltran win Gold Gloves

November 5, 2008 at 16:21 pm · 84 comments

by Matthew Cerrone

According to the Associated Press, Mets OF Carlos Beltran and 3B David Wright have been awarded Gold Gloves in the National League by Rawlings.

The Award is the third overall for Beltran and the second for Wright.

Update6:00 pm

“I take a lot of pride in being a complete player,” Beltran said in a statement from the team.  “Even on the days when I don’t get a hit, I feel I can make a difference in the field.”

“Individual awards are nice,” added Wright, “but, for me, my entire focus is on the team and getting back to the playoffs.”

{ 84 comments }

zen November 5, 2008 at 4:23 pm

beltran is the best in the game.

wright has photographs of the rawlings voters in uncomfortable situations.

rustyjr November 5, 2008 at 4:24 pm

does he have a pic of francessa eating a glazed jelly doughnut???

Tidewater November 5, 2008 at 4:27 pm

who doesn’t?

rustyjr November 5, 2008 at 4:29 pm

lmfao

CitizenSnips November 5, 2008 at 4:31 pm

You have no idea how much I just laughed.

PelfreyCyYoung09 November 5, 2008 at 4:37 pm

lmao…good ones

Jdalemoney November 5, 2008 at 9:26 pm

I think this website is GREAT, keep up the good work guys

rustyjr November 5, 2008 at 10:10 pm

well i’d take all the credit but….

HOFMets57 November 5, 2008 at 4:23 pm

Looking back, I thought Jose was going to be the defensive star.

He has a LONG way to go before earning his first…

HOFMets57 November 5, 2008 at 4:27 pm

To clarify…

I think his problem is, he doesn’t react to the ball well. Cohen commented on it a couple times, like Jose is on the back of his heels rather than on his toes. He gets bad jumps, has a very poor throw to first when drifting to his right and NEVER throws overhand (always sidearm), despite the necessity to when throwing across your body deep in the hole. His range is mediocre and subsequently, his zone factor…

Simon November 5, 2008 at 7:33 pm

I think this analysis is dead-on, but I don’t think it’s fair to summarize it by saying that Reyes is mediocre.

The problem isn’t that he isn’t a valuable defender, because he is. The problem is that he doesn’t play the position particularly well and makes up for it with athleticism. When guys like that get older, guys like that become albatrosses.

Sometimes they do, anyways. A lot of guys like that start lazy because they can get away with it, but as soon as they notice themselves slipping start making better decisions. I believe that’ll be the case with Reyes – he acts like an eight year old sometimes, but he’s not a stupid man or somebody who doesn’t care about winning.

I wish he’d adjust now, though. And I’m pretty terrified about the idea of a 30 year old Reyes Jetering it up out there.

rustyjr November 5, 2008 at 4:24 pm

i still believe johan and jose deserved the award also but ill take 3 :)

PelfreyCyYoung09 November 5, 2008 at 4:38 pm

Johan definitely deserved it, but so did Maddux.

rustyjr November 5, 2008 at 4:41 pm

pandering to the old man i guess

phukthephills November 5, 2008 at 4:50 pm

when maddux retires santana will win them year after year

rustyjr November 5, 2008 at 4:51 pm

still not good

phillyhater November 5, 2008 at 5:16 pm

the only reason Maddux won it is because his name is Greg Maddux.

rustyjr November 5, 2008 at 5:20 pm

agreed

gomets6091 November 5, 2008 at 7:30 pm

a lot of fielding metrics showed Maddux as the best fielding pitcher in the NL this year. His reputation is well-earned…

metsfan227 November 5, 2008 at 4:27 pm

It never ceases to amaze me how every year people debate who deserves this award. It’s meaningless. I thought after Rafael Palmerio won when he had only played 20-something games at first base that everyone knew this award didn’t matter.

Deserves? Since when has that matter in getting a Gold Glove.

rM teM November 5, 2008 at 9:16 pm

how many do you have?

dave27 November 5, 2008 at 4:35 pm

Who do we think makes a disparaging coment about Wright winning first…Chipper or Rollins?

PelfreyCyYoung09 November 5, 2008 at 4:40 pm

My vote goes to Shane Victorino

rustyjr November 5, 2008 at 4:42 pm

nah i think jimmy rollins mouth is looser

mdemaio November 5, 2008 at 5:12 pm

If anyone deserves to it’s Glaus, who got fleeced…..

Steviefan84 November 5, 2008 at 4:40 pm

My bets on Rollins or Victorino. lol

toomanyuniforms November 5, 2008 at 4:40 pm

Wright has the two most important qualifications for a RAWLINGS(TM) Gold Glove(TM) — good offensive year and he won one the previous year.

rustyjr November 5, 2008 at 4:43 pm

good thing u made the tm symbols u might get sued lol

guierllNO MOta November 5, 2008 at 4:47 pm

did jeter win one too? this award should be scrapped, although Beltran certainly deserves it, cant name 3 OF’s in baseball better, as for 3B…we can all name 5 or 6 in the NL better than ours defensively.

Does he split his award with Delgado for saving him from having a dozen more errors on his resume this year?

MudvilleNine November 5, 2008 at 8:41 pm

Name me one that makes that bare-handed play better and more consistantly. Seems to me that exact play is what gave Brooks Robinson his reputation of being one of the greatest defensive thirdbasemen ever. But I’ll defer to you since you know better than the managers and coaches who voted for him.

Reyes es el Rey November 5, 2008 at 9:55 pm

Yea that’s David’s best play. I bet the Rays wouldn’t mind if Wright taught Longoria how to make that play (think game 3 of the series).

Wright has great range, but his arm is only so-so. I’d still like to seem him play a little closer to the line,–how many screaming grounders for doubles down the line does he have to watch go past him?

MudvilleNine November 6, 2008 at 12:32 am

Actually thats a managers decision. One strategy is to play off the lines by about 15 feet because stats have shown that more balls are hit in the holes between 3rd and short, and 2nd and 1st, than go down the lines. Also those balls down the lines are hit hard and even when playing closer to the line, will go down for a double a good percentage of the time anyway. So the idea is to cut down the hits through the hole which happen more often. I just gave a lousy explanation of it but I hope you followed. I even did my own little research on it and found it to be true. I always had my college kids keep track of where balls were hit by us and the opposition and when I looked back through 4 or 5 years of scorebooks it did show more balls hit in the holes than down the lines.

Koko November 5, 2008 at 4:50 pm

Last year Wright probably didn’t deserve it, but this year he was spot on. He started out a little weak, but as the season progressed he was just plan outstanding at making plays. Sure his arm might need to be slightly more accurate, but his glove work is wonderful.

And Beltran is Beltran.

Jose didn’t deserve it. He should have more range, but doesn’t. He makes spectacular plays at times, but he doesn’t get to a lot of balls he should. As someone mentioned, he doesn’t react fast enough.

Johan probably could have one it, but ehh.

If Church stayed healthy for the entire year, I think he might have won it as well…

kingman 26 November 5, 2008 at 5:46 pm

I agree…and once Maddux finally retires or doesn’t win, it will be Johan’s for the next decade…

saverio November 5, 2008 at 4:59 pm

The Mets should resign Perez, Pedro Martinez and sign Greg Maddux.

If they could somehow turn Luis Castillo and someone besides Aaron Heilman (he was injured all year and has shown himself to be a good if ) into Vazquez, that’s an acceptable rotation.

Or get Peavy.

Still need a closer but there is some bullpen talent.

rustyjr November 5, 2008 at 5:00 pm

he’s not worth what he’s asking

phillyhater November 5, 2008 at 5:21 pm

that is absolutely ridiculous! sign Pedro and Maddux? WTF is wrong with you? Yeah, lets sign more old, aging, washed up veterans. Have you not been paying attention to baseball the last 20 years? Youth is what wins you pennants, and especially home grown youth. We might as well resign El Dugue, and bring back Mo Vaughn right? Maybe Moises Alou can play next year while we’re at it.

www.metsextreme.com November 5, 2008 at 5:44 pm

please, tell me your joking? are you refering to the Pedro and Maddux of 10 years ago?

iamatwork November 5, 2008 at 5:03 pm

it’s gold glove, not gold arm.

rustyjr November 5, 2008 at 5:09 pm

johan made some stellar plays

CaseStreet November 5, 2008 at 5:12 pm

Jose def got the shaft for the All-Star game and the Gold Glove.

metsftw November 5, 2008 at 5:25 pm

reyes is rated as pretty average by most defensive metrics

rustyjr November 5, 2008 at 5:29 pm

well sometimes the numbers lie – ozzie smiths rep was built upon the amazing plays he made same with ordonez and reyes

Reyes es el Rey November 5, 2008 at 10:02 pm

I’m guessing Ozzie and Rey-Rey were pretty awesome based on defensive metrics. Jose is very athletic and can occasionally make amazing plays, but inning after inning I would say there are a number of shortstops who are better in the field.

Off the top of my head, Rollins, Bartlett, Tulowitzki, Jack Wilson, O. Cabrera, and probably Alexei Ramirez when they switch him there.

rustyjr November 5, 2008 at 10:11 pm

i dissagree but hey what do i know lol

Ceetar November 5, 2008 at 5:49 pm

shame they’re wrong. Granted I didn’t watch _every_ SS in the league, but Reyes is one of the best defensively. If there was only one defensive inning left in the game, Mets up 9-8 game 7 of the World Series there isn’t a single active SS i the game that I’d put in there over Reyes.

kingman 26 November 5, 2008 at 5:58 pm

I agree…like Wright, Jose makes some errors on easy plays, but overall he is excellent, and has one of the best arms for a shortstop since Shawon Dunston.

rustyjr November 5, 2008 at 5:39 pm

guys dodgers turned down penny’s option comments??

kingman 26 November 5, 2008 at 5:44 pm

I would give him a shot…he is only 30 and could have some good years left…I would wait and see what the market is…

Only drawback–we kick his butt pretty bad! We are like 13–5 against him I think….which makes him 89–62 against everyone else!

rustyjr November 5, 2008 at 5:49 pm

he could be the steve lawrence character – mortie from the blues brothers lol

kingman 26 November 5, 2008 at 5:57 pm

Does that mean he has to take a steam bath with everyone? If so, I sure hope Francesa isn’t there!

rustyjr November 5, 2008 at 10:12 pm

yeah and he has to wear that big facacta star of david lol

kingman 26 November 5, 2008 at 10:44 pm

LOL!!

You are on a serious roll tonight…some damn funny stuff on that other Fatcessa thread!

And yes, I do find you amusing….

rustyjr November 6, 2008 at 6:34 am

even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then plus fatty is a big and easy target lol

dominicanboy08 November 5, 2008 at 6:02 pm

who is better Andy Sonnanstine or Edwin Jackson ?

phukthephills November 5, 2008 at 6:23 pm

id say sonninstine…but i really havent seen either of them play that much…

LongJohnMaine November 5, 2008 at 10:58 pm

Jackson has a live arm and the higher upside, but his control (or lack thereof) isn’t good. Sonnanstine has better control but his raw stuff isn’t as good as Jackson’s. Take it for what it’s worth.

kingman 26 November 5, 2008 at 11:00 pm

That’s a damn fine analysis of those two….

metz1 November 5, 2008 at 7:56 pm

i wonder if chipper jones has anything to say about wrights gold glove?

2009_believe November 5, 2008 at 8:57 pm

First of all, your user name is really clever
how long did it take you to come up with it?

Second of all, obviously you know nothing of baseball because a gold glove award isn’t about offense its about defense.

Third – maybe its time to grow up don’t you think

Gina November 5, 2008 at 9:02 pm

In theory it’s about defense.

kingman 26 November 5, 2008 at 9:03 pm

LOL! Good one Gina….

Mandy Meowpants November 5, 2008 at 9:13 pm

hi guys, im a mets fan living in boston and i just ran into Alex Speier from WEEI (our sports radio station in boston) at a local bar here and he just told me there’s trade discussion right now for DUSTIN PEDROIA!! THATS RIGHT, he got a call as I was speaking to him and told me it’s not finished yet but what it amounts to is fernando martinez, aaron heilman, brian schneider & bobby parnell for DUSTIN PEDROIA!!! the details arent definite yet but thats what its most likely going to amount to. CAN YOU BELIEVE IT?? I KNOW ITS CRAZY AND I HOPE ITS TRUE, IM SOOOO EXCITED!!!!!!! We can really use pedroia’s leadership & clutch hitting..TAKE THAT PHILLIES, WE WILL HAVE PEDROIA!!!

LETS GO METSSSSSSSSSSS!!!! :-)

kingman 26 November 5, 2008 at 9:27 pm

Sounds completely ridiculous, but if we can pull that one off, Omar is GM of the year instantly.

CitizenSnips November 5, 2008 at 10:54 pm

That sounds not true at all.

clarkx14 November 5, 2008 at 9:19 pm

i doubt that is true MeowPants, but i would like to see the mets trade for sonnastine, sign sheets, hudson, and revamp the bullpen… when sheets gets injured we will still have niese in AAA.. also i would like to sign someone like rocco baldelli to platoon in left with david murphy

whynot1 November 5, 2008 at 9:33 pm

What’s wrong with this paragraph, from Rob Neyer on espn.com:

“David Wright is a good third baseman, but I think he’s getting those bonus points for being a great hitter. That said, most of the best third basemen were in the American League, and I did have Wright as the second-best third baseman in the National League, behind only Scott Rolen. And considering that Rolen played only 104 games on the field this season, Wright’s selection is highly defensible.”

whynot1 November 5, 2008 at 9:38 pm

Neyer, to his credit, owned up to the mistake, instead of just having it edited out.

4JoeOrsulak November 5, 2008 at 11:15 pm

Scott Rolen is a Blue Jay, no?

MetsFan4Decades November 5, 2008 at 9:37 pm

I love hearing about all these trade talks and rumors. I wish some of these would actually become fact but as some are too good to be true, they’ve got to be rumors.

And congrats to Beltran and Wright – for what it’s worth.

I’m in the camp that Beltran is hands down one of the best of two defensive outfielders in the game – if not the best.
Wright’s defense has definitely improved this past year. Now if he could only make ALL throws to first spot on, he’d be one of the top 3rd baseman for years to come.

D-Day November 5, 2008 at 9:42 pm

hey everyone off subject but putting it out there. im try to get a citi field brick but they say they are sold out. i sent the mets an email and they got me on a waiting list if they decide to comission more bricks for the fanwalk. to make a long story short anyone who didnt get a brick yet that still wants one go to the fanwalk website and email them. the more people we get the better the chance theyll give more bricks. im REALLY want one but missed the boat cause my birthday is in october and they were sold out by then and ive been really down about it ever since. help a die hard fan out if you guys can!

rustyjr November 5, 2008 at 10:12 pm

they will – they are greedy bastids lol

rustyjr November 5, 2008 at 10:14 pm

btw guys from mlb trade rumors
Mets GM Omar Minaya commented on Manny Ramirez, indicating that he plans to invest in pitching instead

nymetskid11368 November 5, 2008 at 10:14 pm

Looks like wright seems mad focused on leading the team and bringing them back 2 the playoffs well good 2 see him like that. hopefully the mets can take wat rollins said and seeing the philles go 2 the world series as motavation im lookin foward to ‘09 deff go mets 09!!!!

kingman 26 November 5, 2008 at 10:37 pm

I agree! I was ready for spring training about a week ago!!

DWright for MVP in 2009!

rustyjr November 5, 2008 at 10:39 pm

dwright for king of the brittans – all he needs is the holy hand grenade !!

Reyes es el Rey November 5, 2008 at 10:24 pm

I’m pretty sure McLouth is a terrible fielder. Also, Pujols is an awesome fielder–why does he never get any love? He better get the MVP.

GravediggerHebner November 5, 2008 at 10:51 pm

I realize errors don’t tell the full story, but McLouth made ONE in 155 games. Doesn’t sound terrible to me.

rustyjr November 6, 2008 at 6:32 am

IT’S CUZ HES ON A LAST PLACE TEAM – HE WILL NEVER BE RECOGNIZED UNTIL HE JOINS A Better team – sorry bout the caps

Sylar November 5, 2008 at 5:34 pm

You also aren’t funny, and you obviously have no life

rustyjr November 5, 2008 at 5:36 pm

obvious a new member of furiouso’s troll squad

Sylar November 6, 2008 at 12:29 am

Furioso, your disguises are terrible.

When you get banned again for being an incessant troll, just stop trying to come here, and please, GET A LIFE.

Ceetar November 6, 2008 at 5:21 am

what, he should be a whiny, lazy player like rollins? no thanks.

He’s not ‘leading’ the team, because Manuel’s blocking him. Kick the crappy manager to the curb

rustyjr November 6, 2008 at 6:33 am

hopefully that was sarcasm ceetar lol

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