Comments on: Second Base: Mets want to make a Trade http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/06/second-base-mets-want-to-make-a-trade/ MetsBlog.com features the latest Mets rumors, player movement, and news circulating around the Internet, as well as Mets related insights and opinions by Matthew Cerrone and his team of guest bloggers. Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:48:15 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: chico http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/06/second-base-mets-want-to-make-a-trade/#comment-384765 chico Fri, 07 Nov 2008 23:51:47 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/06/second-base-mets-want-to-make-a-trade/#comment-384765 That's why they aren't trading Zito just yet. They haven't had him long enough to justify eating that much of the contract. Once they've had him another 2 years or so, then they can eat a crapload of it and it won't be that a big deal, but to eat half of the contract right now would be for only one year of pitching, and they will never do that. That’s why they aren’t trading Zito just yet. They haven’t had him long enough to justify eating that much of the contract. Once they’ve had him another 2 years or so, then they can eat a crapload of it and it won’t be that a big deal, but to eat half of the contract right now would be for only one year of pitching, and they will never do that.

]]> By: Andrew http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/06/second-base-mets-want-to-make-a-trade/#comment-384737 Andrew Fri, 07 Nov 2008 21:56:43 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/06/second-base-mets-want-to-make-a-trade/#comment-384737 Of course the contract is a problem. Like I said, the Giants would have to pick up a good amount of it in any deal. Of course the contract is a problem. Like I said, the Giants would have to pick up a good amount of it in any deal.

]]> By: Ed Q. http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/06/second-base-mets-want-to-make-a-trade/#comment-384248 Ed Q. Fri, 07 Nov 2008 06:16:37 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/06/second-base-mets-want-to-make-a-trade/#comment-384248 No, the problem with Zito is FIVE years and over 100 MILLION left on the K. That's not regular crazy, that's something special crazy. Suggestions like Byrnes if the D'backs would really move him (friends in AZ seem to think it possible) Juan Pierre and Gary Matthews also aren't that bad. Pierre had a down year but his speed is amazing and he is allegedly a great clubhouse guy. Hey, not complaining at all when benched in September showed some character. Dodgers also could use a 2B with Kent going bye bye and Hu or Dewitt not quite ready. Ramon Hernandez is a nice option too if the O's move Brian Roberts. Ahh, this is fun. Also, helps stop the tears when I think about 08 No, the problem with Zito is FIVE years and over 100 MILLION left on the K. That’s not regular crazy, that’s something special crazy.

Suggestions like Byrnes if the D’backs would really move him (friends in AZ seem to think it possible)

Juan Pierre and Gary Matthews also aren’t that bad. Pierre had a down year but his speed is amazing and he is allegedly a great clubhouse guy. Hey, not complaining at all when benched in September showed some character.

Dodgers also could use a 2B with Kent going bye bye and Hu or Dewitt not quite ready.

Ramon Hernandez is a nice option too if the O’s move Brian Roberts.
Ahh, this is fun. Also, helps stop the tears when I think about 08

]]> By: Andrew http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/06/second-base-mets-want-to-make-a-trade/#comment-384247 Andrew Fri, 07 Nov 2008 04:56:39 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/06/second-base-mets-want-to-make-a-trade/#comment-384247 So, I have a crazy suggestion. It starts with a B and ends with arry Zito. Giants need a 2B because their options stink more than Castillo does. The Mets need a back-of-the-rotation starter. And Zito, though he had a disgusting year last year, showed flashes. Moreover, you can probably make the Giants pick up a good half of his contract. The problem with Zito has been that he lost the strike zone. But that's something that can be fixed. From a pure "stuff" standpoint, Zito's still pretty much there. Plus curve, plus change, bad fastball -- basically as it's always been. Posted his lowest HR rate in years last season. Take out the walks, and he's a decent pitcher. I know we're always wary of taking on projects (see: Zambrano), but some similar projects have worked out very well for the Mets (see: Maine, Perez, R. Hernandez, Oliver) So, I have a crazy suggestion.

It starts with a B and ends with arry Zito.

Giants need a 2B because their options stink more than Castillo does. The Mets need a back-of-the-rotation starter. And Zito, though he had a disgusting year last year, showed flashes. Moreover, you can probably make the Giants pick up a good half of his contract.

The problem with Zito has been that he lost the strike zone. But that’s something that can be fixed. From a pure “stuff” standpoint, Zito’s still pretty much there. Plus curve, plus change, bad fastball — basically as it’s always been. Posted his lowest HR rate in years last season. Take out the walks, and he’s a decent pitcher.

I know we’re always wary of taking on projects (see: Zambrano), but some similar projects have worked out very well for the Mets (see: Maine, Perez, R. Hernandez, Oliver)

]]> By: Cactus http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/06/second-base-mets-want-to-make-a-trade/#comment-384234 Cactus Fri, 07 Nov 2008 03:53:29 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/06/second-base-mets-want-to-make-a-trade/#comment-384234 he just made 2 errors. he's not going to be able to play there at a major league level by april. he just made 2 errors. he’s not going to be able to play there at a major league level by april.

]]> By: Cactus http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/06/second-base-mets-want-to-make-a-trade/#comment-384233 Cactus Fri, 07 Nov 2008 03:51:36 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/06/second-base-mets-want-to-make-a-trade/#comment-384233 It's ok. Even Michael Kay made this same mistake. It’s ok. Even Michael Kay made this same mistake.

]]> By: therealsince86 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/06/second-base-mets-want-to-make-a-trade/#comment-384217 therealsince86 Fri, 07 Nov 2008 01:18:38 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/06/second-base-mets-want-to-make-a-trade/#comment-384217 I would give it a try. I still wonder if he was on roids and has not adjusted yet. I would give it a try. I still wonder if he was on roids and has not adjusted yet.

]]> By: therealsince86 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/06/second-base-mets-want-to-make-a-trade/#comment-384216 therealsince86 Fri, 07 Nov 2008 01:17:33 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/06/second-base-mets-want-to-make-a-trade/#comment-384216 You guys are right on top of it. When Hudson is hitting .280 with 8 HR and almost nothing run production and getting paid 10 million a season? People will be trying to dump him and he will be LESS atractive than Castillo. You guys are right on top of it. When Hudson is hitting .280 with 8 HR and almost nothing run production and getting paid 10 million a season? People will be trying to dump him and he will be LESS atractive than Castillo.

]]> By: therealsince86 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/06/second-base-mets-want-to-make-a-trade/#comment-384215 therealsince86 Fri, 07 Nov 2008 01:15:53 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/06/second-base-mets-want-to-make-a-trade/#comment-384215 I don't mind the idea of bringing in Jones for Castillo. It's one year hit or miss in LF and if he does not work out maybe other moves can be made. I don’t mind the idea of bringing in Jones for Castillo. It’s one year hit or miss in LF and if he does not work out maybe other moves can be made.

]]> By: BBmetsfreak36 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/06/second-base-mets-want-to-make-a-trade/#comment-384214 BBmetsfreak36 Fri, 07 Nov 2008 01:15:33 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/06/second-base-mets-want-to-make-a-trade/#comment-384214 Amen to that. I've always liked Byrnes and I think he's a great back to back counter part to church. One bat 6, one 7. One bat left, one bat right. One play left, one play right. And with him we'd have no doubtibly the best defensive outfeild in the national leage not to mention a solid lineup. I think snieder is plently when it comes from great defensively and sub-par but yet acceptible offensively. So no, I don't think catcher is a problem. I truely believe Murphy can and will be our starting second basemen next year. I don't see why people are so sceptical of that. He's a natural infeilder so it's not all that new to him. Just pessimistic people believe he isn't based of what they see of him in the majors. Don't say he doesn't have range b/c he is fairly deceptivly fast. And I just don't think he can produce powerfully enough to be a 1st basemen or everyday left feilder. But considering you have a fairly good hitter I just feel its a waste to put him anywhere else but second. Where as I do not think he just should be handed the job but compete or share the job while learning from a vetern presence such as Eckstien or Easly. If matured fully by the break the counter part could be held as bait at the deadline. Usually somebody'll be looking for a vetern infeilder. Amen to that. I’ve always liked Byrnes and I think he’s a great back to back counter part to church. One bat 6, one 7. One bat left, one bat right. One play left, one play right. And with him we’d have no doubtibly the best defensive outfeild in the national leage not to mention a solid lineup. I think snieder is plently when it comes from great defensively and sub-par but yet acceptible offensively. So no, I don’t think catcher is a problem.
I truely believe Murphy can and will be our starting second basemen next year. I don’t see why people are so sceptical of that. He’s a natural infeilder so it’s not all that new to him. Just pessimistic people believe he isn’t based of what they see of him in the majors. Don’t say he doesn’t have range b/c he is fairly deceptivly fast. And I just don’t think he can produce powerfully enough to be a 1st basemen or everyday left feilder. But considering you have a fairly good hitter I just feel its a waste to put him anywhere else but second.
Where as I do not think he just should be handed the job but compete or share the job while learning from a vetern presence such as Eckstien or Easly. If matured fully by the break the counter part could be held as bait at the deadline. Usually somebody’ll be looking for a vetern infeilder.

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