Comments on: Relief Pitcher: Mets trying to get Bobby Jenks http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/11/relief-pitcher-mets-trying-to-get-bobby-jenks/ MetsBlog.com features the latest Mets rumors, player movement, and news circulating around the Internet, as well as Mets related insights and opinions by Matthew Cerrone and his team of guest bloggers. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:15:16 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: gameball http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/11/relief-pitcher-mets-trying-to-get-bobby-jenks/#comment-386275 gameball Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:07:41 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/11/relief-pitcher-mets-trying-to-get-bobby-jenks/#comment-386275 I like Murph too, but let him prove that he can handle lefties over a full season before we attach the S-word to him. Now that he has the league's attention, scouts and pitchers will be working any weakness he shows at the plate. It will be the adjustment he makes to this which will determine his ML future. I like Murph too, but let him prove that he can handle lefties over a full season before we attach the S-word to him.

Now that he has the league’s attention, scouts and pitchers will be working any weakness he shows at the plate. It will be the adjustment he makes to this which will determine his ML future.

]]> By: Peter http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/11/relief-pitcher-mets-trying-to-get-bobby-jenks/#comment-386125 Peter Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:48:35 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/11/relief-pitcher-mets-trying-to-get-bobby-jenks/#comment-386125 Closers and left fielders are people and not objects? Whaaaaaaaat? Closers and left fielders are people and not objects? Whaaaaaaaat?

]]> By: darknova http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/11/relief-pitcher-mets-trying-to-get-bobby-jenks/#comment-386121 darknova Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:16:13 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/11/relief-pitcher-mets-trying-to-get-bobby-jenks/#comment-386121 Jenks and KRod had the same save percentages: Jenks 30/34 and KRod 62/69. Jenks had half as many walks and a WHIP that was 0.19 better than KRod, and you're saying KRod is better because he had more saves? Not buying it, sorry. I like KRod, but I don't believe pitchers should ever get deals worth more than 4 years, especially relievers. Jenks and KRod had the same save percentages: Jenks 30/34 and KRod 62/69. Jenks had half as many walks and a WHIP that was 0.19 better than KRod, and you’re saying KRod is better because he had more saves? Not buying it, sorry. I like KRod, but I don’t believe pitchers should ever get deals worth more than 4 years, especially relievers.

]]> By: nyj0126 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/11/relief-pitcher-mets-trying-to-get-bobby-jenks/#comment-386091 nyj0126 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 04:35:54 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/11/relief-pitcher-mets-trying-to-get-bobby-jenks/#comment-386091 Jenks is the same age as K-Rod. I'd take K-Rod over him because he's better. It's really that cut and dry. K-Rod is awesome. He more saves than Jenks and Fuentes put together. I know it's inflated because of how great the Angels were during the season. But it doesn't mean K-Rod doesn't get it done. I still don't see K-Rod getting 5 years because our competition for him doesn't have big market teams. The Angels are out. Cleveland, Milwaukee, San Diego & Arizona who are all in need of closers won't even try. Detroit's locked up with too many bad contracts. It's really just the Mets and Cardinals. And maybe Texas. Jenks is the same age as K-Rod. I’d take K-Rod over him because he’s better. It’s really that cut and dry. K-Rod is awesome. He more saves than Jenks and Fuentes put together. I know it’s inflated because of how great the Angels were during the season. But it doesn’t mean K-Rod doesn’t get it done. I still don’t see K-Rod getting 5 years because our competition for him doesn’t have big market teams. The Angels are out. Cleveland, Milwaukee, San Diego & Arizona who are all in need of closers won’t even try. Detroit’s locked up with too many bad contracts. It’s really just the Mets and Cardinals. And maybe Texas.

]]> By: nyj0126 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/11/relief-pitcher-mets-trying-to-get-bobby-jenks/#comment-386090 nyj0126 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 04:32:23 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/11/relief-pitcher-mets-trying-to-get-bobby-jenks/#comment-386090 I am not a fan of Fuentes either because he's a 33 year old pitcher who wants a 3 or 4 year deal just like Billy Wagner who was 34 at the time. Signing him would look good for a year or two but it'd backfire. Why not just sign K-Rod? You're losing the same draft pick. K-Rod is a much more shut down closer. The NL hasn't even seen him yet. Fuentes was knocked out of the closer's role in July '07 when he had four consecutive blown saves. Doesn't that sound Billy Wagner-ish? I know that was likely just a fluke because he's only had 24 blown saves in 8 seasons, but his age is the clinching factor. Sign K-Rod or trade for Jenks. Or Putz but something tells me Seattle's more of a pain to trade with. I am not a fan of Fuentes either because he’s a 33 year old pitcher who wants a 3 or 4 year deal just like Billy Wagner who was 34 at the time. Signing him would look good for a year or two but it’d backfire. Why not just sign K-Rod? You’re losing the same draft pick. K-Rod is a much more shut down closer. The NL hasn’t even seen him yet.

Fuentes was knocked out of the closer’s role in July ‘07 when he had four consecutive blown saves. Doesn’t that sound Billy Wagner-ish? I know that was likely just a fluke because he’s only had 24 blown saves in 8 seasons, but his age is the clinching factor. Sign K-Rod or trade for Jenks. Or Putz but something tells me Seattle’s more of a pain to trade with.

]]> By: nyj0126 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/11/relief-pitcher-mets-trying-to-get-bobby-jenks/#comment-386089 nyj0126 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 04:30:04 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/11/relief-pitcher-mets-trying-to-get-bobby-jenks/#comment-386089 If anyone were to be included in a deal with Jenks it'd probably be Vazquez. Not Dye. The White Sox are looking for a team to dump him on without paying a penny of it. They need to get him out of there because of what Guillen did to him. He's really not that above market value. He's a reliable 3 pitcher. A deal of Fernando Martinez, Aaron Heilman and a mid-level prospect like Bobby Parnell can probably get us Jenks and Vazquez. If anyone were to be included in a deal with Jenks it’d probably be Vazquez. Not Dye. The White Sox are looking for a team to dump him on without paying a penny of it. They need to get him out of there because of what Guillen did to him. He’s really not that above market value. He’s a reliable 3 pitcher. A deal of Fernando Martinez, Aaron Heilman and a mid-level prospect like Bobby Parnell can probably get us Jenks and Vazquez.

]]> By: nyj0126 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/11/relief-pitcher-mets-trying-to-get-bobby-jenks/#comment-386088 nyj0126 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 04:28:05 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/11/relief-pitcher-mets-trying-to-get-bobby-jenks/#comment-386088 I'm very open to the idea of trading for Bobby Jenks for a couple reasons. 1) It won't cost us a first round draft pick. It's true that it'll cost us Fernando Martinez in the deal but that may as well be the equivalent of a pick. The Mets will lose more picks when they sign a SP. It's possible they'll get one back when losing Ollie though. 2) It saves the Mets money. They can use that money on signing a reliable set up core. Like a Dennys Reyes or Joe Beimel. And a Juan Cruz or Russ Springer. They'd still have plenty left over. Jenks is arbitration eligible for 3 years. Jenks is a power closer. He's young. He's more apart of the category of Papelbon, Lidge and K-Rod than he is Street or Sherrill. He's reliable, young and affordable. The Phillies got it done by going via trade so maybe that's what we need to do. This time last year people weren't thinking Lidge was one of the best closers either. I’m very open to the idea of trading for Bobby Jenks for a couple reasons.

1) It won’t cost us a first round draft pick. It’s true that it’ll cost us Fernando Martinez in the deal but that may as well be the equivalent of a pick. The Mets will lose more picks when they sign a SP. It’s possible they’ll get one back when losing Ollie though.

2) It saves the Mets money. They can use that money on signing a reliable set up core. Like a Dennys Reyes or Joe Beimel. And a Juan Cruz or Russ Springer. They’d still have plenty left over. Jenks is arbitration eligible for 3 years.

Jenks is a power closer. He’s young. He’s more apart of the category of Papelbon, Lidge and K-Rod than he is Street or Sherrill. He’s reliable, young and affordable. The Phillies got it done by going via trade so maybe that’s what we need to do. This time last year people weren’t thinking Lidge was one of the best closers either.

]]> By: since1963 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/11/relief-pitcher-mets-trying-to-get-bobby-jenks/#comment-386086 since1963 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 03:46:56 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/11/relief-pitcher-mets-trying-to-get-bobby-jenks/#comment-386086 Dye doesn't turn 37 in January; he turns 35. The proposed deal of Heilman, Evans, and a minor-league pitcher who isn't a top prospect sounds all right to me, but I'm not the White Sox. Dye doesn’t turn 37 in January; he turns 35. The proposed deal of Heilman, Evans, and a minor-league pitcher who isn’t a top prospect sounds all right to me, but I’m not the White Sox.

]]> By: metsfan1 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/11/relief-pitcher-mets-trying-to-get-bobby-jenks/#comment-386078 metsfan1 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 02:02:54 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/11/relief-pitcher-mets-trying-to-get-bobby-jenks/#comment-386078 If Jenks were a free agent, I would go after him. However to raid the minor leagues again for a guy that could get injured is risky. The way I look at it, cash is cash. As they say on wall street, if you want to make money you have to spend money. I say go after KROD. I am not a fan of Fuentes. He played in a laid back town and wasn't even the closer last year for the Rockies. He doesn't throw that hard. The closer needs to be a guy that can bury you with a fastball and change speeds with a slider or changeup. KROD can do that. I don't like the fact he wants 5 years but if you can get hm down to 4, pay him. Our bullpen is terrible and we can't screw around for a third year in a row. And if we are lucky, Wagner might be ready towards the end of the season/playoffs and could be a setup man If Jenks were a free agent, I would go after him. However to raid the minor leagues again for a guy that could get injured is risky. The way I look at it, cash is cash. As they say on wall street, if you want to make money you have to spend money. I say go after KROD. I am not a fan of Fuentes. He played in a laid back town and wasn’t even the closer last year for the Rockies. He doesn’t throw that hard. The closer needs to be a guy that can bury you with a fastball and change speeds with a slider or changeup. KROD can do that. I don’t like the fact he wants 5 years but if you can get hm down to 4, pay him. Our bullpen is terrible and we can’t screw around for a third year in a row. And if we are lucky, Wagner might be ready towards the end of the season/playoffs and could be a setup man

]]> By: JohnD11 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/11/relief-pitcher-mets-trying-to-get-bobby-jenks/#comment-386074 JohnD11 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 01:32:30 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/11/relief-pitcher-mets-trying-to-get-bobby-jenks/#comment-386074 Did Cincinnati hire Steve Phillips? Did Cincinnati hire Steve Phillips?

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