According to Scott Miller of CBS Sports, the 
Braves are offering Yunel Escobar, Gorkys Hernandez, Blaine Boyer, and either Charlie Morton or Jo-Jo Reyes, and one of two minor-league left-handed pitchers, one of which is believed to be Jeff Locke.
In the report, Miller adds, “The Braves have been pressuring the Padres for an answer by Friday, when the free agent market opens, because they need at least two starters… They are expected to pursue A.J. Burnett, Ryan Dempster and others - sign maybe one if they acquire Peavy, and two if they don’t.”
Buster Olney wrote on Tuesday at ESPN.com that in talks with the Cubs, the Padres may need a third team to facilitate a deal.
“The Cubs and Padres have talked about a deal built around Josh Vitters, the Cubs’ top pick from 2007,” Olney writes.
Meanwhile, in a post to his blog for the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Braves reporter Dave O’Brien described the Braves as being ‘peeved,’ and getting ‘antsy,’ with the Padres.
So, yesterday, the Mets and Red Sox ‘inserted themselves in to talks about Peavy,’ reported Tim Brown at Yahoo!, adding, “The Yankees continue to push hard,’ as well.
…from what i understand, though, there is no way peavy will approve a deal to boston or new york, or any big-city, east-coast location, especially in the American League…it’s just not happening…
In his report for ESPN, Olney wrote, “Some sources believe that a trade of Peavy, while not imminent, is inevitable, and could occur prior to Thanksgiving.”
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I went into a corner bodega and they had skoal and kodiak dip. Tell Peavy NYC isnt so bad after all!
Not a bad looking haul for the Pads, since Escobar looks like a player. Not sure of course about how good the other guys are. But if they want to build up with young talent and cut payroll, not a bad start.
Can’t really see the mets being able to (or even needing to) beat that kind of package for 1 SP.
Good trade for the Padres, bad trade for the Braves.
I highly doubt that one pitcher is going to turn around the team, especially when it’s at the expense of so much young talent.
Agreed.. if they give up Morton and Escobar in the same deal… wow.. that;s a lot.
Way more then we gave up for Johan.
Yeah who wants him anyway. I mean the fact that he doesn’t want to play in a big market shows me is isn’t a big game pitcher who will thrive on the big stage of the playoffs. Just another hyped up loser in my opinion. Perfect fit for the Yankees.
I see it more likely that the Mets become the 3rd team in the trade. Maybe they could come away with a Giles to play LF, maybe a Redsox guy? I don’t see the Mets having the prospects to get Peavy without trading an everyday player.
Anyone got any ideas on how that 3rd team thing would work with any of the teams? I would guess that 3rd team would send a prospect to the Padres and the Peavy team would send a decent player to the 3rd team.
Something like
Padres send Peavy to Rsox
Sox send prospects to Padres, and Coco to the Mets
Mets send Evans to the Padres.
You can sub out the names how ever you want.
They are apparently trying to move Adrian Gonzalez too.. but a 3 way for Peavy is already busy enough
I just don’t see why they would move Gonzo. He’s young and cheap, makes no sense at all. To me he should command as much as Peavy.
Look at the option they picked up for Giles.. yet they’re trading Peavy….
Doesn’t make much sense either.
that is baffling, they even bought out his option years at a discount…
signed extension with San Diego 4/07
$0.5M signing bonus
07:$0.5M, 08:$0.75M, 09:$3M, 10:$4.75M,
11:$5.5M club option (no buyout)
3y and 13.25 mil left, where do I sign up for that?
I guess the Padres see him as having a lot of trade value as well as a lot of real value. But he would seem like a nice inexpensive part to keep around while rebuilding the rest of the team.
The Giles extension was a nobrainer. Keep him for cheap instead of the buy out, or trade him to another team. Kind of like the Delgado situation on a lower note.
9 million bucks is cheap? For a team shedding salary?
It is when there was a 3 million dollar buyout and he is attractive at that price to other teams. It’s 6 million to keep him or to trade him.
If SD wants Major League ready starting pitching, I would think we would have to include Maine or Pelfrey and possibly Niese. I agree. I don’t think we have the goods to get this done.
Its intriguing how the PAdres are able to bid up the ask price for Peavy with so many teams interested and how the Mets were able to get Johan relatively cheap (player wise) given the contract they had to dole out.
You missed the important part of the CBS story…
Rather than the speculation of the Yahoo story, the CBS one is reporting that the Padres will be asking Peavy to waive his no trade clause today. It suggests that a trade is imminent.
In the Yahoo story, the Mets DID NOT insert themselves into the Peavy sweepstakes. It speculates that maybe Peavy inserted the Mets onto his list of approved teams, but that is nor based on anything that Peavy has said.
If the Mets somehow swing a trade for Peavy, I will sell my left kidney and buy season tickets to Citifield just so I can watch the Mets blow late inning leads 2 out of every 5 days.
haha…thats funny…maybe b/c its true.
The asking price is so steep, I would cringe if we made this kind of deal. CC or bust!
I agree, I would much rather spend the extra 7 million a season for CC and hang on to our 4-5 prospects in an already dry system.
yesterday i heard the yankees offer 6 years 150 millions to CC!!!! we can’t match that at all!!
Really? We can’t spend 25 million a year on an elite pitcher? But we can trade our entire farm for one that will make 18-20? So 7 million a year is worth our entire farm? What’s the difference between paying a new LF to replace Fmart in 2010, Murphy now, and Niese now and keeping them and paying just CC?
In the long run it would be cheaper.
Let the Yanks spend all the money they want now. We’ll see where they end up next offseason when few are renewing their $750k luxury boxes or $1000 seats.
I think tying up $45 mln on two arms for 5/6 years would be a mistake. Sign Lowe and focus on the pen.
the real, we can, what i meant to say is that it wouldn’t be wise to spend on cc when the bullpen was our biggest problem last year..
Hubie, I had so much hope for you. LOL. I guess old habits are hard to break.
As for the Yankee’s, do you REALLY think that giving CC that kind of money will hurt them at all? A team with a 200 million dollar payroll that paid Giambi 20 million a year?
True enough about the pen Alex. But if we can address most of those problems through trade. You could sign a guy like Lyon to be the closer and bring in Cruz then trade for the others using lower prospects and reclamation projects with Heilman, Show and Feliciano.
the real: I was exaggerating above but even the Yanks have budget limits as evidenced in their decision last offseason not to pursue Johan. Let them throw $150 mln at cc and watch it go right to his waist. But more importantly from the Mets perspective, having all that long term money tied up in 2 pitchers would be dangerous, if one of them or even both of them are ailing 3 years from now.
Is it any more than having to go back into the market again in 2-3 years signing Lowe and still not having a prospect ready to take his place?
Having two guys like CC and Johan does so much for the team. It instantly makes your pen better and allows you to have a #5 starter like Niese instead of a more established one.
Would you rather have CC and Niese or Lowe and Garland?
I’d rather have CC…but we reluctantly gave Johan 6 years last year…and now we have to compete with a more deprived Yankees team who is ready to give him a blank check. We have our own window to sign Johan…CC has the luxury of pitting teams against each other…and while i think CC would rather be with the mets (stays NL) I don’t think we can/will compete in a bidding war.
I would still check in. Offer him something early and see what happens. If nothing else it drives up the price for everyone else.
I wouldn’t cringe if we didnt already have Johan…we got our ace last year..now we need to build people around that
What I am doing is looking at the system. We have decent prospects for IF and OF. Our holes are at catcher and SP in the minors. CC fills a void for 5+ years. If you look at a rotation of Johan, CC, Pelfrey, Maine, Niese there is not a lot of room there for prospects anyway. IF you sign Tex then you have Evans, Murphy, Bowman, Carp all blocked at that position. Same with LF with Murphy, Evans and Fmart all having potential to play that position. To me SP is clearly our biggest need in the system.
That make sense..but I just dont know if its realistic.
I don’t forsee Omar dolling out over 300 million on two contracts this offseason. He already has Johan locked up and we didnt even want go give HIM 6 years. While I understand the impact CC would provide us, I think its more realistic if we took that money and spent it elsewhere. Say 60 million fro Krod, 60 million for Lowe or Burnett, even 40 million on Hudson…another 10 mil on a reliever and 5-10 mil on another reliever.
Point is…as we have seen that past few years, we have talent…we have superstars…but we dont have depth and we dont have quality back-end rotation guys, bullpen, or bottom-of the order guys.
As a current resident of Atlanta (from NY though, so relax!) BUT…I see these guys play all the time. I know nothing can replace Peavy’s dominance but that’s a great package. Escobar is a stud in the making and Reyes or Morton have outstanding potential.
I’d be very surprised if any team could match that offer.
I actually disagree with you on Reyes and Morton…I think at best both of them have 4-5 starter potential…I’ve seen lots of both of them, and if the Braves can trade for Peavy without giving up Jurjens or Shaffer I think they did pretty well.
I agree, the Padres would be better off getting Escobar and Shaffer alone. The Braves are trying to overwhelm them with numerous mediocre prospects.
Though it is still a decent package, I find it hard to believe that the Padres would want to round out thier rotation with Morton and Reyes for the next 3 or 4 years.
Or Hanson.
6/155 or 7/175 and we could have a deal. Of course the 6/150 is only a rumor.
Is 25 mill a year worth it for a guy who carried a team to a playoff spot?
…I have no doubt he’ll get something close to Santana money with the Sept act he pulled.
The Mets can swing that deal if Santana and Sabathia can both pitch on 3 days rest all year, not just when its needed… ;)
I think they wouldnt want to lock up that much money in two SP’s with Pelfrey and Maine approaching arbitration, and other players on escalating contracts.
just get K-rod, trade delgado for bullpen hel and get teixeira, i’m sure all our focus for years to come will be in pitching..
So we can afford Tex at 10/200 but not CC? And don’t say it’s because we are trading Delgado. That 12 million for just this season does not matter in the long run.
believe me, i’ll be shocked if someone gives him that kind of years and money, what i’m saying that in the long term we will have a team that can win in the regular season for years to come, with offense like that we’ll always be in it, plus our pitching is not that bad, if we get steady in the bullpen we could’ve run away with the division 2 years, if we get cc what good will that do? and don’t say it helps the bullpen because they have less work, they flat out stinks!! no matter if you pitch 8 inning they will implode in the 9th.. get good stady bullpen and trade for a 3-4 starter and we’ll be good if teixeira, reyes, wright, beltran, murphy anchors our team.
You could say our pen was better in 2006 because of the innings pitched. However, again you can make small trades for bullpen guys. Heilman for Betancourt, prospects for guys like Rauch, signing cheap guys like the Phillies and Rays do.
but what good will it do for us to have good pitching and no offense? and how do you know those teams will take our offer for their relievers? specially now when they seem to be in high demand.. is kinda like a back and forth arguement, we need a change in our team, i think with delgado gone david can step up and be the leader of this team, as much as we bash him he cares and wants to win..
Our offense was not a problem last season. We have potential replacements brewing for LF and 1B, not for pitching.
A lineup of
Reyes, Murphy, Wright, Delgado, Beltran, Church, Schnieder/Castro, Castillo is not terrible. You could improve it by trading for Molina as well. Then send Schnieder for bullpen parts.
like i said, if you ask ppl you’ll get a 50/50 response on that arguement.. i’d love to have cc, but i will kill me to know that he pitches 7 or 8 innings and our bullpen blows it again.. and you don’t know what delgado you’re gonna get, i’d trade him now that his value is up, get more bullpen help for him.. i’d keep him if we get a bonafide closer trough a trade, get cc, get bullpen help and get rid of castillo.. i’m sure you would agree..
I would love CC…but we dont NEED CC…we have so many other holes than need to be filled that are more valuable to our season than getting CC.
Really? Which ones could not still be filled through FA? We would still have some money left. Which ones could not be traded for?
The point is…we aren’t playing with house money here…this isnt MLB 2K9…Realistically, and maybe not my opinion, but I dont think our team wants to spend that kind of money on one player two years in a row.
It’s not house money. I expect the Mets to have 42-48 million to spend this offseason. With Delgado signed that’s 30-36 million left. You could spend 25 on CC and still have 5-11 million left. That and going with cheaper, newer options in the pen through FA and trades is an option.
not when we already have a guy making similar money that almost by himself carried us to the playoffs. Its not Johan’s fault he didn’t pitch more than 3 complete games to end the season.
Yeah but if you read ESPN they say he’s gone to the Braves. We’re not going to give up what it takes to get him.
Lean in? With what?
We could give them a better offer but it would be dumb.
he doesn’t want to come over to new york.. there’s a reason why.. he knows the pressure it takes to be here, while good some athletes fare better in a small market team where if you don’t win is ok and if you fail nobody will notice..
Well yeah we could give them a better offer than that but so could the Braves, and for them doing it with hurt their ml team and farm system less than it would ours. I mean what would we lean in with that would be at all reasonable.
I vote for the spend money if possible and keep the prospects. They seem to have more of the former than the later these days!
I wouldn’t mind seeing Teix at 1B. Kind of warming to that idea. I’m not worried that much about having too many top prospects blocked like that (if by a stud, not a Castillo!) At least it gives you a good supply to trade to fill other holes.
I am kind of intriqued by Bowman though. If he stays healthy and keeps raking, maybe his top 3B glove could translate over to 1B?
Key to me is still having Murphy nail down 2B (and unloading Luis someplace). That will make some of the other moves more logical (and easier) not having as many guys in play.
Especially if Martinez is going to be ready to at least platoon in the near future. Evans/Tatis/Martinez by mid year can get the job done, if they are getting offensive production from 2B, and hopefully C too.
Eh, from what I’ve read, and just from looking at his numbers, I wouldn’t be too interested in Bowman. He’s 22, he’ll be 23 in december, and not expected to develop much, if any, more power. He slugged a combined .419 in the minors this year. So not developing more power would kind of sink his chances at being a productive major leaguer.
the mets don’t have anyone on escobar’s level who is available.
THEY DO HAVE A KID SS WHO THROUGHOUT THE YEAR IN ROOKIE BALL WAS AMONG THE TOP HITTER’S, 340 -350
HIS NAME IS WILMER FLORES, OH, DID I MENTION THE KID WAS ONLY 16 AND JUST CELEBRATED HIS 17TH IN AUG.
for those who want CC you are forgetting that the Yankees are prepaired to outbid any team especially the Mets. The Yankees will outdo any offer we put out there.
The Mets have too many holes to try to outbid the yankees.
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