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According to Nick Cafardo in the Boston Globe, the Astros want to ‘dump money,’ and are willing to trade SS Miguel Tejada, RHP Jose Valverde and OF Carlos Lee, assuming he will waive his no-trade clause.
Lee, 32, who will earn $74 million through 2012, hit .314 last season, with 28 HR, 100 RBI and a .368 OBP.
He has hit at least .300 each of the last three seasons, while playing for the Astros and Rangers.
…as a right-handed bat, with power, lee would great batting behind David Wright and Carlos Beltran, but he’s very 
expensive, and four years is a long time, not too mention the talent that may be needed to get him…but, he is intriguing…
Meanwhile, in his last 139 appearances, spanning two full seasons, the 29–year-old Valverde has 91 saves in 105 opportunities with a 3.04 ERA.
In Sunday’s New York Post, Joel Sherman wrote, “Valverde could be had, but he will be entering his walk year, and Mets officials say they will not give up a significant package for a player who can be a free agent in 12 months.”
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forget giving up serious talent for Valverde.
This is exactly the kind of guy that they should deveolop themselves. he isn’t that special, he just has the “closer” tag. Just find a comparable non-closer for 1/4 the price, and give him the job!
now, if they could get him for a minimal return (taking on the salary, only a rental etc.) grab him. Even if he ends up beign a set up man, still an improvement.
lee is intriquing. Just too scary at those terms.
For a Carlos Lee - YOU GIVE UP FERNANDO MARTINEZ.
Period.
I would 2nd that notion. Carlos Lee can also move to 1B after this year.
It should be noted, Lee produced those numbers in only 115 games..
i do that deal, we shouldve signed carlos lee after 06 when we had the chance. the guy is a great run producer and fulfills our RH LF power bat hole.
Lee is a beast of a hitter. I could see him wanting to stay in the southwest though. Maybe Arizona makes a play for him. Wonder how much they have in terms of prospects.
I don’t think Arizona’s particularly likely. They’re trying to cut payroll too. They’re farm is somewhat weak, but that’s more due to lots of graduations than anything else.
You’re all out of your minds. He’s 32. You do NOT give up Fernando Martinez for a guy like Lee. In 2 years he’ll be a DH-only type who is good for about 90 games a year.
Slob - in two years if we are just in two World Series it will be well worth it .
And we can always then flip him to an AL team or put him at First Base.
Slob,
Can you guarantee F-Mart will put up the numbers Carlos Lee does? If so, then I’ll rescind my ‘F-Mart trade offer.’
Oh yeah that’s right. You can’t, can you?
C-ya ‘Teenage Hitting Machine’ (a moniker that only applies to leagues in the Dominican Republic)!
Living in the Houston area, I can say that 9/10 of the people here want to move Carlos Lee. Why? He hits a ton and puts up gaudy numbers, but he is probably worse in the OF than Manny or Dunn. He does not have any speed. He projects to be an AL hitter. They want to move him to bring in some bodies, as their minor league system is worse off than ours.
I’m not sure that what the ‘Stros would want in return would match up with what we can offer, unless we were going to give up numbers, ie. 3+ prospects and Heilman, whom I am sure would be useful to them as a starter. If it can be sold as a salary dump on their part + a starter and some minor leaguers they might want to do it.
If he could be had for some of our lessor prospects and Heilman, then yes, I would be for it. Just be prepared for Lee driving in 2 runs and giving up 2 runs on a error of some sort.
Maybe Beltran could be permanently shaded to left…
I agree 100%. he is only 32 and a very productive hitter. Mets should have signed him in the first place when he is available.
Fmart is a commodity and a dream but not a reality. we need reality. If we can get him we should
no thanks.
lee is not in great shape and will be making 18.5m at 35 and 36. might as well sign manny.
Carlos Lee IS Manny and will be 36 at the end of his contract not the beginning. This guy is a hitting machine, if hes available the Mets have to go for it.
Valverde not so much
umm, no he’s not.
he’s in the same sentence as Manny. the guy hits 300+ with mondo power and never strikes out.
Carlos Lee
Last Year in 115 games:
.314/.368/.569/.937 28 HR 100RBI
3 year splits:
AVG 562 AB 32 HR 112 RBI .305/.358/.543/.901
Manny Ramirez
Last Year in 153 Games:
.332/.430/.601/1.031 37HR 121 RBI
3 year splits:
AVG 495 AB 31 HR 104 RBI .317/.419/.571/.990
Looks pretty comparable to me, factor in that lee played in 38 less games makes him more productive and more durable than manny over the last 3 years. His AVG/OBP/SLG/OPS are very comparable although not as good. Oh and hes 32, not 36.
excellent point on the strikeouts. Last 3 years:
Manny: 318
Lee: 177 with 67 more at bats
oh yeah and hes our first baseman in 2010.
THIS IS A NO BRAINER
I agree with those that want to pick him up. Lee is a great add on and would be a productive hitter for us. WE should have picked him up when he was first available - if we can pick him up for the remaining four years then the move is worth it.
“lee is manny”
hahahahahahahahaha
manny is a first ballot hall of famer. lee is pretty good.
manny is the all-time hr leader in the postseason. lee has 1 hit…
we are paying for the NEXT Four years .. Not the previous 8 years.
Lee is a better bet at his age and cost for the next few years..
manny was much better last year. not just the last 8.
and he will be much better the next couple.
I wouldnt go so far as to say MUCH better.
and manny will also cost 25 mil a year vs. 18.5 for Lee.
the mets should only take lee if the astros pay some of that huge salary. valverde could be a good set up man for us.
I don’t think Valverde will want to be a “set-up” man in his walk year.
who cares how much he is making, when did we become a small mkt team… We should have signed him when he was a FA. Now if we have to create a package around fmart… do it!
Is CitiField ready for press confrences and when will Omar be announcing his first one?
We got a lot of work to do, Lucy….
you are right, where are we going to introduce our new players?
where and WHEN ?
More interested in the “who”
Only the shadow knows, stickman, only omar the shadow….
Boras just pooped himself, this could hurt Tex and Boras in the pocket book.
Would Lee be, “El Raton” in NY?
If Carlos Lee is available… Go. Get. Him.
He automatically becomes the best hitter on the team, for both average and power.
El Caballo is a beast. The Mets would be much better if they had him. Then you could deal delgado and move murphy to first. Or keep delgado for one more year. Either way, beast.
NO! NO! NO! No, Carlos Lee or Valverde. Why do the Mets complicate things. Just sign K-Rod.
take Lee over K-rod… We would have 10R lead once our starters leave instead of 5… so the bullpen unless its heilman pitching should still allow us to win by 2-3 runs a night.
When Lee was a free agent at the end of 2006, I wanted the Mets to get him and was surprised on how little interest he generated. The guy hits 300+, hits 30+ home runs, and never strikes out. With him on board, Delgado could be traded for valuable pieces and Murphy could take over first base.
what, now Murphy is a firstbaseman?
Cause this guy has a good eye we all think he playes all 8 positions? Yeah, let’s trade Schnied and Murph can catch! What the heck?
The reason why I say Murphy to first base is because that’s what Omar said he would like for him to play in an interview last month. I didn’t just say it for the hell of it.
I heard the same… I think Omar might know what he is talking about..
Murphy played 3B for most of his pro career. There’s no reason to think he can’t play first.
2B is a different story.
Actually, Murphy is naturally a first baseman and played 3B starting this year, and prior to that was a first baseman.
Actually, you have that wrong. Murphy was a 3B, who got a little time in at 1B for the first time in 2008.
Here’s Murphy’s career games by position at the minor league level:
3B 196
2B 17
1B 13
DH 8
LF 4
Trading for Lee would cost too much in prospects. Might as well sign Manny for a few dollars more.
Everyone’s problem with Manny is his age. Lee’s age isn’t as much of a hinderance. Although, when presented with the option, I would sign Manny as well.
Since that doesn’t look likely, this is the closest we will come.
entirely depends on how much of a salary dump it is. That contract is nasty.
Now, if the Mets offer 2 B prospects but take the entire contact? Have to think on it.
Can Lee really play 1st (as in, he has done it in the past proficiently?)
might be better off in the DL league.
18.5 a year sounds reasonable for a bat like El Caballo.
not at 36 years old which he’ll be at the end of his deal making that kind of change. you might as well sign manny.
he’ll be 36 in four years.. so what? we dont have any obligation beyond that year.
given the rates for manny (25 mil plus THIS YEAR) - 18.5 four years out is a bargain.
No, the Mets don’t might as well sign Manny. Manny is 36 NOW. Lee will be 36 at the end of his contract. Plus manny wants more than what Lee will get.
Get Lee-the dollars are within range for a pitcher for his capability. Hit attitude is better than Manny’s as well-we need the bat.
Saw the comment regarding the bullpen need - we need the RH bat as well. Who is say Murphy can play LF-he didn’t look like he could last year. If he can’t play 2nd or 1B then he may become trade bait. We’re still not sure what we have yet so let’s not over value him-his trade value is at a peak right now.
I’m not advocating trading Murphy by any means;however, let’s not be blind that he may be able to play LF and we have to experiment with him there. He was pretty rough out there. If there is a quality player-JJ Putz- let’s make the move. Or do I have to remind everyone of Greg Jefferies and Dave Magadan-they were can’t miss also.
We need to address our needs now!
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Lee has only played 5 games at 1B in his Major League career. All 5 were during his rookie season in 1999.
He played 4 games at 1B in the minors. All 4 were also in 1