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According to the New York Post, Albert Pujols beat out Ryan Howard to win the National League MVP Award.
David Wright and Carlos Delgado finished seventh and ninth respectively in the voting.
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Was not really expecting Wright ahead of Delgado (though his #s were better, for the most part) but still. good for the Mets to have players at least make the top 10.
congratulations to my countryman !!!!!Albert Pujols!!!!!!!!!!
AT LEAST RYAN HOWARD DIDN’T WIN
i can’t believe the voters got it right. howard would have been the most undeserving mvp since… well, jimmy rollins. but you get the idea.
he got zero attention but look at pujols’ numbers if you haven’t. the guy had some kind of hand injury all year and he still made a mockery of the league.
Albert Pujols for Argenis Reyes.
We’d have to at least ask for Carpenter and Wainwright back in that deal. We’ll give them Castillo too. Carpenter can play 2B and hit the ball out of the infield.
do it Omar!!! hah
50 DOLLARS,
THE ONLY WAY THE CARDS GIVE US PUJOLS IS IF WE THROW IN CASTILLO AND HIELMAN, OTHER THAN THAT THERE’S ABSOLUTELY NO WAY THEY PULL THE TRIGGER.
right elbow injury**
Howard would have been the most undeserving MVP since 2006. Oh, wait…
Big difference between the Times and the Post, Regey!
Good catch, my bad
Wright fails at yet something else lol
Good thing he’s got that ring to comfort him……..oh, wait a minute
Dude, go back to Philly and come back and talk when the only team that people care about in that city (read that, the team that tied the Bengals yesterday) wins a title. That should keep you out of our hair for a few decades.
Oh, and while you’re there, can you tell Kalis to sound a little more enthusiastic when he does the Giants Super Bowl Videos?
looks like it worked…
Who cares about football? Some Mets fan you are.
I’m just a Mets fan who thinks Wright is over rated
Amazing. I almost took you seriously there. A Mets fan? your name is DWrightUnclutch, which speaks for itself, and you are talking about the mets lack of a championship. seriously, take the other guy’s advice and go back to philly where you can drool over the last 5 months of happiness in the sports world in Phucktown. I find it funny that a helpless Phillies fan, after they win the world series finds the time to look at Mets blogs, and not even enjoy the thrill of winning a series. You know what? Congrats on the title. Seriously. Oh, i also almost forgot about your comment about David Wright. I’m sorry, i guess Pedro Feliz is MUCH better than David Wright. And who cares about football? I’m sorry that some of us do like other sports, and i truly am genuinely sorry that you cannot enjoy other things than bashing the Mets. Hah. “Some Mets fan you are”.
No, Furioso, you’re just a contrarian who harps on one play out of the entire year to put down a very valuable and good player in order to get a rise out of actual Met fans.
Hah. Well put. I hope he enjoys all of this. If he really is a Mets fan, I hope he becomes a Phillies fan just so we dont have to listen to his ridculous comments anymore.
Oh please. What has DWright ever won?
He’s so loved here because he’s young, articulate and white. That’s why the Mets push him to be the face of the franchise, and that’s why he’s so loved.
DWRIGHT,
I CAN SEE CLEARLY THAT THE LOBOTOMY HAS NOT WORKED OUT VERY WELL FOR YOU, KNOW THAT WE ALL ON METS BLOG ARE HOPING FOR A COMPLETE RECOVERY FROM CHRONIC PSYCHOSIS.
PSYCHOSIS – A MAJOR MENTAL DISORDER IN WHICH THE PERSONALITY IS VERY SERIOUSLY DISORGANIZED AND ONE’S SENSE OF REALITY IS USUALLY ALTERED. – WEBSTER
Oh please. The reason the Mets push David to be the face of the franchise is because of a number of things.
1. HE IS AN UNBELIEVABLE BALLPLAYER
2. He IS young, i don’t see what is wrong with that
3. He is a great role model for children, and has these charity events etc.
4. He can handle just about anything professionally, on or off the field.
I don’t see anything wrong with any of those things.
And are you seriously saying that race had anything to do with this?
You’re talking about a team with a Hispanic GM, a former black manager in Willie Randolph (and Jerry Manuel).
The fact that he’s white is completely irrelevant.
Plus hes not the only face of the franchise. What about Johan? Jose? are you telling me that when people think of the mets they don’t think of those players?
From these past few hours of “knowing” you, you seem to me like the most stubborn and oblivious person i have ever met in my entire life.
“Oh please. What has DWright ever won?”
Well, those gold gloves, for starters…
haha true
“Oh please. What has DWright ever won?”
Well, those gold gloves, for starters…
Thanks for proving my point.
When people talk about winning, they mean pennants, rings, championships. Even MVPs.
Wright has none of those things (though various Phillies do)
The best you have is “gold gloves”
WOW
Once again, Mets fans prove they care less about winning than they do meaningless “awards” for their players
Do you get lost in your own logic often? Because frankly the stupidity of it all is quite baffling. You asked what Wright had won and someone replied with a legit answer. Do we really care if he won? Not really. I didn’t jump for joy and fist pump when he won. I don’t really care about those awards. But since someone did respond with that you launched your canned response (please don’t tell me you didn’t think anyone knew that was a setup) with more baseless accusatory statements as if you’re the only person here who wants to see someone win. Anyone who says that everyone here would love to see players get individual awards instead of championships is braindead, which you’ve proven time and time again, Furioso. I’m as.suming you think So Taguchi is a better player than anyone on the Mets because “he has a ring!”.
It certainly makes him a better winner than D Wright
Taguchi hit that clutch homer in the LCS
Wright……not so much
It’s hysterical, I talk about winning, and you bring up a gold glove.
hey, add the silver slugger to that also
Because neither one of them is a ring
Which Wright will never have
Cuz he chokes
Since you love calling him a choker based on one at bat how about August 7th where he hit a 2 run homer with two outs to win the game? Man he choked HARD then.
Why do you even use clutch to describe anything? Clutch is just a term given to a lucky hit in a situation that benefits a team. A fielder could mistime a run and miss a fly ball causing a double, an infielder can slip causing a ball to roll by, a wind gust could carry a fly ball into the stands, it has NOTHING to do with a batter.
Anyone who focuses on “clutch” and “unclutch” as some sort of gauge of a player’s value knows absolutely nothing about baseball and should be ignored entirely. Go find a sport you might actually understand. I suggest miniature golf.
Really? Being clutch is just lucky hits?
Huh.
Well, in those spots, I guess that I’d rather have a guy who makes contact and gets lucky than a guy who strikes out.
Because it’s hard to get lucky when you can’t make contact.
Clutch isn’t part of a players value?
Ok.
I expect to never see anyone on this blog make fun of Arod and what HE does in big spots.
Wright is clutch because he hit a HR in an Aug game?
No.
You can’t see the difference between an early Aug game and a late Sept game…..much the same way you act like winning a gold glove is some sort of important award.
I guess you’re ignoring all the time in the playoff and WS where utley, howard and rollins did not come through.
But I guess utley was clutch when cameron played his routine fly into a double a la Lonnie Smith.
Jesus Christ drop the gold glove thing. I’d love for you point out where anyone here was estatic that Wright won it. Where are you getting that we care about these awards? Where were the people pining for him to win it? Actually since you accused me of it, show me where _I_ said it was an important award. Heck even when he did win it there were probably 10 complaints about how undeserved it was for every 1 “that’s cool” comment. It’s a dumb, useless argument, so let it go.
And the HR example was to counter your one at bat example. You always use the same example every, single, time you argue “he couldn’t get Murphy home from third he’s unclutch!” well I used the same number of at bats to show a clutch example.
I guess you’re ignoring all the time in the playoff and WS where utley, howard and rollins did not come through.
I guess you’re ignoring the part where they got rings.
Jesus Christ drop the gold glove thing. I’d love for you point out where anyone here was estatic that Wright won it
“What has Wright ever won”……..”Well, those gold gloves for starters”
Yup….lets ignore that too.
You still didn’t present a good example. He just answered your question. I’m telling you show me someone who was incredibly excited about it, because that’s what you’re saying everyone does.
They fly the flag in case you are too ignorant to notice. They have the right to spoit in your face. You are the reason everyone hates the Mets. Sore losers like you.
Sore losers? Weren’t the Philles STILL mentioning the Mets even after they won it all and the Met hadn’t been a factor for over a month? That’s some sore winning.
I think you are both right, as a matter of fact.
Looks like the dumb vote was split over Howard and Ramirez. Because of it, the righteous prevailed and Pujols won.
Howard finishes 13 spots above Utley is hilarious to me.
Right on the mark. Howard wasn’t even the third most valuable player on the Phillies: Hamels, Lidge and Utley were all better.
And Delgado finishing in the top ten while Beltran is nowhere to be seen is sad. Utley and Beltran need better pr, because they were the best players on their respective teams this year.
Beltran was the only guy who showed up on the last day of the season.
pujols blahh….i hate its just base on numbers and no mvp moments
I hate that the he stands at home plate for 5 seconds and watches his home runs, but nodody says anything about it.
Should have been Manny.
Number99?
Word.
i think manny delgado and howard shoudve been top three.
I hate Howard and the Phils, but he shoulda won hands down. Pujols succeeds but his team blows. Howard carried the Phils again down the stretch. To me that is MVP
Howard had a 250 BA and 199 SOs, but yeah, he should’ve won…
:rollseyes:
Yeah, obviously the months of April-August are irrelevant.
By the way, it’s funny how the only argument for Howard winning was his September numbers. Yet Holliday was just as impressive down the stretch in 2007, and had the bonus of not being mediocre for the rest of the season, and yet he didn’t finish as close as Howard.
What a joke.
Agreed. But at least he didn’t actually win it.
Pujols had a good season. However, the voters really messed this one up. To begin with, they had Delgado way down in the standings beneath Wright. Wright wasn’t even the MVP of the Mets Santana, Reyes and Delgado were more valuable and possibly Beltran.
There were obvious choices before Pujols.
They were Howard, Braun, Delgado and possibly Soto in Chicago. Manny was in the second tier as he barely was a part of the league this year. The Cardinals were a has been.
A horrible first half and a great second half should not make a player deserve an MVP.
None of the guys you mentioned were even in the same league (metaphorically) as Pujols. Delgado was as unworthy a choice as Howard. Like Howard, he wasn’t even the MVP of his team. If you’re one of those guys who looks solely at HRs and RBI, then yeah, I guess you can be impressed by Howard and Delgado. If, however, you are one of the people who look at ALL the numbers, as well as things like defense and other metrics, then Howard and Delgado shouldn’t even be in the top ten, let alone the leaders.
This is an individual award, what your team does around you shouldn’t matter. The Most Valuable Player is by definition the player with the most value. Simply put, Pujols > Howard, Delgado, etc. Just because Howard and Delgado play on better teams, they don’t become better players or have more value.
I hate the guy and think he’s an arrogant s.o.b, but he deserved the hardware here…
You are wrong…what you are describing is the Most Outstanding player, that is based only in stats numbers. The MVP should been attach always to the perform of the team. The definition for me is simple. Is the player that the team goes down or do nothing if you take out his production, that is what makes him Most Valuable.
Delgado was this year MVP of the Mets he carried them since middle of June and without him the Mets wouldn’t been in any pennant Race.
For me the MVP should been Ryan Braun, even with slump in one moment he carried the Brewers for most of the year and without him, Milwaukee was out of the playoff picture. Pujols i think that without him the Cardinals still would have play the same way for all the players who have a very good year in that team (Ludwick, Ankiel…etc) and Manny besides he was only there 2 months i think the Dodgers make the playoff more because of the debacle of the D’Backs. Even with his great numbers LA only play for 30-24 while the D’Backs play for 26-28 losing yet the Pennant by only 2 games.
My MVP order was
1 – Braun
2 – Delgado
3 – Howard
4 – Pujols
5 – Manny
No, no. no……
This isn’t “Player on Team who gets to playoffs”. It’s MOST VALUABLE PLAYER.
Braun did absolutely nothing in September, except for those 2 walkoffs. He’s one of the reasons the WC came down to the final week.
Delgado had a great 2nd half, but that doesn’t excuse the fact that he had a god awful 1st half, which helped put the Mets in a hole.
Howard had mediocre numbers, and was awful every month except September.
Pujols was consistent all year, and he absolutely deserved the MVP.
You are wrong. For one if Delgado hadn’t been so horrible to begin the season we wouldn’t have needed his hot second half to still finish second. And two a every player you named had a bunch of other good players on their team. Brewers had Fielder, Hart, Sabathia, Sheets and Hardy. Delgado had Reyes, Santana, Wright and Beltran. Howard had Utley, Hamels, Rollins. Y Even with Delgado’s surge we finished out of the play-offs. Even with Braun the Brewers needed our collapse to make the play-offs. ou can pretty make make the same argument for basically every player you named.
the MVP is decided upon stats, consistiency, participation in key spots, clutch, and yes, how well the team performs, exeding its ability. A player that can singlehandedly carry a team way above their expectations, whether that be te playoffs, second place, .500, or no coming in last. the MVP goes to the player that was more valuable to their own team than anybody else to their respective teams. without pujols, the cards would have finished dead last. Without howard, the phils might not have won the world series or even won te division, but still would have been “just fine”.
dont forget this is partially a makeup for 2006’s MVP when Pujols took his team to the playoffs and Howards team overacheived yet fell short, but howard won the mvp
God i hate waiting…omar sign someone so i could stop holding my breath
DWrightUnclutch, if you’re still obsessing over the Mets way down here and missed what I had to say before, feel free to look up there.
“Obsessing over the Mets”
Um…everyone is here on METSblog because we obsess about the Mets lol
I just have a different take is all.
I save the majority of my praise for winners.
That makes you a frontrunner.
So?
sorry bud. when i meant obsessing over the mets, i meant being a lowlife phillies fan who cannot enjoy that his team actualy won a world series, and must rub it in the faces of mets fans. congratulations.
phuck the phils
No, I’m a Mets fan who’s disgusted with the past 2 seasons
The fact that you aren’t just proves you don’t really care
Go give Wright some luv over useless awards
I hereby declare “DWrightUnclutch” sentenced to duct tape over the mouth until his Eagles win a championship.
Maybe McNabb didn’t know there were ties in football because he’s so used to playing in the post season lately. They went deep into the playoffs last year.
So you use football as a retort on a baseball blog?
That’s sad dude.
I couldn’t give a rats a** about football.
Much the same way you seem to feel about baseball I guess
how on earth can anyone say Howard doesnt deserve the MVp but Delgado does?!?!?!? first off, neither deserve it, but cmon if it had to be one of them its gotta be Howard, he hit in SEPTEMBER…AND….he was basically the only Philli hitting in Sept. (Delgado was hot in August)
And neither of them were the MVP of their own team, this argument is just silly, friggin silly, and only to get sillier when tomorrow Pedroia wins an MVP when he was the 2nd best on his own team.
But to say any Met shouldve even been in the top 5 this year is preposterous with Howard above any Met (once again not even close to deserving, but still MORE deserving than any Met), Braun, CC (his half season was better than Delgados “half” season), Pujols (who without him the Cards are dead last, instead they were i nthe race till Sept.) Lidge, Utley, Soto, Ramirez……….and of course Heath Bell, the savior, whose brilliant bullpenning led his team to, the worst record in baseball?!?!? hmmmm, weird.
just curious, who did you think was better than pedroia this season?
Ah, I get it. Ryan Howard carries the Phillies on his back to the World Series, yet the Cardinals didn’t make the playoffs with or without Albert Pujols. Yeah, that’s fair.
He carried them on his back? So Utley, Hamels, Rollins, and hell Lidge had nothing to do with it? Nevermind the rest of their roster? Howard got hot for 88 at bats. If the rest of the team had played the way he did most of the season we would have clinched the division in August.
Let’s say you swapped Pujols for Delgado or for Howard. There would not even have been a race for the division because the team, Mets or Phillies, who had Pujols instead of their current 1st baseman would win it in a walk.
That is because Albert Pujols so much better at baseball than Delgado or Howard that to argue that either one is more valuable is completely idiotic.
Well, without Howard the Phillies prob pull the ol’ 06 mets collapse and just miss the playoffs
Without Pujols the cards pull the ol ‘62 mets.
The person who was the MOP of the season was Pujols, the one who mean the most to his team was Braun, the person who had the best combo of MOP and value to their team was Pujols, period, I dont even think its close, yeah they didnt get to the playoffs but they were in contention to…I mean some people are clamoring for Delgado here….the Mets didnt make the playoffs and Pujols had better #’s in every facet of the game, including defense, than Delgado…
Also, I think a lot of writers realized they screwed up 3 separate years that Pujols shouldve won the MVP but didnt cause Bonds (more HR’s worse every other #), Beltre (same) and Howard (same) won those years
Its amazing we are arguing about a POWER hitter who also hits baove .340 not beign the MVP? I mean he’s David Wright with double the HR, more RBI, much higher BA/OBP/Slugging and a sound defensive player, if Pujols DOESNT win the MVP, something seems fishy
I’d love it if Reyes could just have one of his great years and win an MVP but he wont cause he’ll never get to to 30 HR…its sad that we talk about Wright in the MVP discussion but not Reyes, when we’d all admit that since they’ve both been Mets, Wright was only better than Reyes one of the years (07) and THAT was because of SEPTEMBER, which half the people here think shouldnt count for some reason.
Reyes disappears every Sept.
How can you mention him for MVP
Unless it is most vapid player
Or maybe the MVP is award for dancing?
Hey DWrightUnclutch,
I agree with you 100%. Most people on this site are in denial about the Mets.
The Cardinals were carried more by Ludwick than by Pujols. If you want someone who was the most consistent throughout the year it was Braun. I know he was down towards the last month but on the whole his year was best. Howard was in a horrendous slump until August. Burrell carried that team for a long time. If you want to say who was the MVP of the team for the most time, its easy to say that Burrell was.
The MVP race should have been
1. Braun
2. Ludwick
3. Reyes
4. Howard
5. Pujols
Let’s not forget that Valuable means the player is valuable to his team. That implies they are the most needed.
How were the cardinals carried more by Ludwick than Pujols? Like what can you possibly be basing that on.
Throughout the year. Pujols got hot in the second half for a team that slumped in the second half.
Umm what? Pujols had a pre-all star break of 1.074
Mingo, are you kidding? Have you looked at Pujols’ stats?
And for Furioso—Pujols with men on 3rd and less than 2 outs—14 for 26 for a .538 average!!!
“Let’s not forget that Valuable means the player is valuable to his team. That implies they are the most needed.”
yea ok..and ludwick was really needed on that team…sure
If your going to go by the literal word, then its the most valuable player in the national league. Not MVP of a team. They use the term MVP but it is suppose to go to the best player in the league. Its what each voter believes is the determining factor, individual stats, overall stats, how a players team did in the regular season, his value to his team, or other things, that particular year that go into their equation of who’s the best that year. One year they might think value to team is most important, another homerun totals, another overall stats. Every year it seems to change. I’m sure the voters all had the same reasons for who they picked as all you had for all the ones you thought was MVP.
trot nixon got screwed
lmfao ill admit i though ryan (too many subway sangwhiches) howard woulda came in first – but hey congrats al
trot nixon u serious
abraham nunez really got screwed…
Argenis Reyes got screwed!! How quickly they forget…he almost got two hits one week!!
Pujols deserved the MVP, no doubt about it.
the MVP is decided upon stats, consistiency, participation in key spots, clutch, and yes, how well the team performs, exeding its ability. A player that can singlehandedly carry a team way above their expectations, whether that be te playoffs, second place, .500, or no coming in last. the MVP goes to the player that was more valuable to their own team than anybody else to their respective teams. without pujols, the cards would have finished dead last. Without howard, the phils might not have won the world series or even won te division, but still would have been “just fine”.
I agree, and I think Lidge was at least the Phils’ co-MVP with Howard.
Pujols clearly deserved it.
pedro’s agent (today at si) implies that there is a shot he’ll return to the mets. omar said the same on wfan
omar. don’t. you know what i’m saying.
i have no problem bringing pedro back on a one year deal with a club option for a 2nd. this was his first full season back after major surgery. unless you’re comfortable with niese as your #5 starter out of the gate, i have no problem with it. as long as the price is right and we can sign other players.
fact is, you can’t go out there and sign all these guys to round out a rotation. all things considered (draft picks given up, prospects given up in a trade), he may be the most valuable addition they can make for a year or two.
If the deal is cheap enough, maybe. It does buy time for Neise/Holt etc. to get more prep time in the minors.
Just can’t count on him (based on last year), so consider Pedro to be one of the pool of extra guys to pick from to round out the rotation.
Bigger concern, to me, is whether he can be counted on to get through 6/7 innings on a regualr basis. If he is going to be 5 max routinely, it will just kill the pen again.
I would rather sign Johnson or Wolf (both non-type As, right?) They are lefty, and likely to give you more than Pedro.
Can’t count on him based on the last 3 years.
Pedro is done, and why would we want to watch him be hurt for a fourth straight year?
Not to mention his pretty bad stats in 2006 and abominable stats in 2008—-19 homers in 109 IP?
Pigs always go back to thr trough.
Sorry Petey, get the f**k out already