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As noted in an earlier post, free-agent SS Rafael Furcal told El Caribe that the A’s and Mets have each offered him a contract.
However, in an update to his blog for SI.com, Jon Heyman writes, “I wouldn’t doubt that the A’s 
have made him a big offer…I do doubt that the Mets have shown any serious interest.”
In fact, Heyman quotes a person familiar with the Mets dealings as saying, “No offer has been made.”
Meanwhile, at the San Francisco Chronicle, Susan Slusser calls the El Caribe report ‘untrue.’
…hmm, ok, well, some one probably should tell furcal that…
…i mean, it’s not like some anonymous source said the Mets and A’s made an offer…the actual player in question is the guy who made the statement…so, so crazy…
Speaking of second base, according to Andrew Marchand, on his blog for 1050 ESPN Radio, Orlando Hudson’s first choice is to play for the Mets.
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is it just me or is this off-season been extremely weird between this and k-rods medical reports and matt holiday traded to the A’s
No weirder than any other off-season – at least since I’ve been paying attention to them.
The truth is there’s not much out there to report on, but sportwriters have a deadline so they have to write about *something*. So if there’s some rumor or innuendo out there that sounds even half-true, you can bet some sportswriter will write about it.
Personally, Omar not really showing his hand.
Everyone knows that we have Voids to Fill and Free Agents and their Reps are looking to use teams to boost up their price..
You can tell by the way we are handling the whole K-ROD deal. Its like a girl who knows she is in love with a guy but is waiting for him to pop the question…
On the Furcal front…It would be a great option at 2B. It would stop the platoon of Senior Citizens (Including Castillo) at the position and would give us a 1-2-3 Speed threat that would help the rest of the lineup.
I agree, and what I like about the smoke screens Omar has sent up to this point is that two months ago, everyone had to go. Now, some people are convinced that Omar is comfortable running out the same team next year, including putting Castillo at 2b. That’s not happening, but the fact that some people will argue it will is good for positioning with the agents.
Yep.
At the end of the day… We need better production in those key areas..
2B
LF
4/5 Starter
Setup Relief
Personally, I think we could live with Schneider and Castro.
And if all else fails, Delgado at 1st also.
But, a right handed power bat in left and a switch hitting 1-2-3 Speed Combo.. would give this lineup some life..
Now Lets Get Manny!
1. SS Reyes (S)
2. 2B Furcal (S)
3. CF Beltran (S)
4. LF Ramirez (R)
5. 1B Delgado (L)
6. 3B Wright (R)
7. RF Tatis/Church (R/L)
8. C Castro/Schneider (R/L
P
Manny is NOT coming here.
Wright will not hit 6th for another decade. #3.
5th is possible if they get Furcal
Why is Manny NOT coming here?
and D Wright @ 5th or 6th will give us the protection we need!
You don’t put the best hitter in your lineup 5th or 6th…you put him 3rd or 4th….3rd, he gets more at bats, and 4th, he comes up with the most chances to drive in runs….
He will not be our best hitter if Manny is in our Lineup..
And I would put Beltran 3rd..
I think it only adds balance to your lineup with Wright #5. You can make the argument that Beltran should be 5 instead, but you could also make the argument that Beltran is a better natural run producer than Wright.
OK, good points, I agree that Manny would be our best hitter, and I actually was arguing for him a few weeks ago, but I have accepted that we are just not going to get him.
And I do like Wright 3rd and Beltran 4th…I think Beltran is more of a cla*sic cleanup hitter and Wright a cla*sic #3 hitter…..
who do we believe? the player or reporters that are just making guesses….. you are right matt, its so crazy!!
It’s a “source” that denied the report, I tend to believe Furcal more than any source and besides, the A’s don’t want anyone to know they have an offer for Furcal before they sign him.
I should say “If” they sign him.
Guys look at the sources..c’mon El Caribe….do they have any journalistic credibility…it reads like a Spanish Language National Enquirer…
but furcal was the one who made those comments, not a person close to him or reporters..
Actually, El Caribe is a good source.. due to the fact that they become the beat reporters for Winter Ball in DR.
If you follow the Caribbean World Series… these newspapers become the daily feed and temporary platform for most of the Major Leaguers who are playing out there.
It’s not as if anyone believed a word of this anyway, or did they?
: )
I wouldnt say believed. More like wished is was remotely true.
did rupert murdoch buy el caribe or what?
LOL–good one!!
The flip-flop Hot Stove continues…
It’s amazing how many “stories” get posted. and then rebutted within minutes to hours nowadays.
Gotta love the era of the internet and blogs.
Remember when you’d have to tune in to the radio or wait till the evening news to find out what happened with your team that day??
Wasn’t all that long ago.
big shock here, I cant believe the Mets didnt offer a guy who has barely played 2B a contract while they still have a 2B and there is a better one on the market
Do you think that the Mets don’t have any interest in O-Dog or trying to trade Castillo before signing him?
I would hope they have interest in O-Dog, hes a great clubhouse guy who is a hell of a second baseman. But I definitely would think they want other teams to think they are content with Castillo so someone might take them off their hands.
Games are won on the field.. not in the Clubhouse!!
well Castillo can’t even get on the field so why not go after Hudson?
My point!
Forget about the whole clubhouse..chemistry bull-manure!
Its time we get some key guys who got some fire in em!
you have to take all of these stories with a grain of salt…even if they come from omar’s lips
the offseason is a cat and mouse game and omar is great for being able to mislead the market.
maybe this ‘interest’ is in fact a way to get hudson to lower his demands for the mets
not to mention the fact that omar has said castillo will also be the starting 2b
more incentive for hudson to take less money
I think he is also not trying to diminish Castillo’s trade value.
But good point…
Yes, i’m sure Furcal dreamed it all up.
Ok, Hudson, you want to come to NY? Then come for the money you are worth. 3/24? He’s just not that great. No way is he worth 5/50+
If luis castillo is worth 4/24 after 2007, then orlando hudson is easily worth 5/50.
oh so if zito is worth 7 years for 126 millions what is lowe worth?
you can judge a contract that turned out to be bad for another contract..
maybe..but scott boras can…and the market will allow him to.
Sorry but justifiying future mistakes with past failures does not a good GM make.
Neither does asking a guy to sign below his market value with the team that is among the richest in the market
Not to mention that there is no way that Hudson gives you 2 times the production of Castillo.
Agreed!
might be a LIL far fetched, but maybe the paper (or even furcal) got confused with the giants, who as we all know used to play in NY, and have shown interest in him reportedly
i dont know if you guys have seen this but it is worth the look
larrybrownsports.c-om/football/brian-westbrook-tackled-by-jockstrap-ravens/3945
just take out the – in .com
Remember there is a certain amount of double talk that happens on all sides here. Is it possible the Mets and Furcal talked about playing second and what type of money it would take for it to happen? Is it possible Furcal drops this in an article hoping to get better offers from other teams? If the Mets talked to Furcal about playing second and numbers were mentioned it is still possible they didn’t not make him an offer which is usually official like the CC Sabathia Offer with the Yankees. I don’t believe anything until I actually see the guy holding the uniform at the Press Conference
orlando hudson, you wanna play for us? we have 3 years 25 millions with an club option for a 4th.. you want it?
Exactly, stop the insanity of a guy that hits barely .300 with 8-10 HR , 50 RBI, 50 runs 5 SB and age 31? No way is that worth 10-12 million a year.
Uh oh!
In the Lowe post, one of you homers felt that the offer to Furcal meant that Omar deserved a big heap o’ praise for “working”
I guess now there’s no offer, you’ll have to find something else to slop undeserving praise on him for
I’m sorry, but he’s gonna give us garbage like Garland and we’re supposed to sit here and lap it up?
No thanks
well, nobody important has been sign yet so as of right now it is fair to say that nobody is working if omar isn’t.. don’t you think?
ok so you go out there and do a better job…oh wait………
“I’m sorry, but he’s gonna give us garbage like Garland and we’re supposed to sit here and lap it up?
No thanks”
Holy sh#*—does this mean you are going away?
Can we pray that this is true?
And if this is you Furioso, I am sorry I ever tried to be rational with you…..you are far worse and infinitely more pathetic and childish than I ever imagined…..
You don’t have to lap it up. You have free choice who you root for. So keep on rooting for those Phillies.
Hey, I’ll be one of the few Mets fans who doesn’t lap it up and think Omar is god for doing nothing but spending $$$
Enjoy that 4 year extension he signed
ok so you go out there and do a better job…oh wait………
Hey, if I built a team that didn’t make the playoffs, I’d be JUST AS GOOD as Omar. For a fraction of the price.
Too bad, signing Furcal would actually be a good move.
not a 4 years and 48 millions it wouldn’t..
Just compared their numbers and I must admit that I like Furcal’s much more. More power and more speed.
4/48 is perfectly fine
For a 31-year old, declining SS coming off of a major injury who would be forced to change positions…you must be kidding!!
“…hmm, ok, well, some one probably should tell furcal that…”
haven’t we been down this road before? i didn’t think we were taking reports from caribbean newspapers seriously.
Its not the Carribean Newspapers…
This is becoming a routine on ESPN, US papers, Blogs, etc..
Like Big Willie said… this is more of a “Cat & Mouse” game..
lol maybe the Mets have not made an offer to Furcal and he just said that hoping the Mets make him an offer because he wants to play 2b for them so bad that he will sign here for half of what the A’s offered him lol.
Yeah I know that is not the case but one can dream
First K-Rod, now Furcal. It seems this year players themselves like to start rumors. I miss the old days when it was the blogs, the misinformed reporter, or just the crazy fan making this stuff up.
I was looking at John Harper’s article on 9/30 where he says, “The Mets need to add JJ Putz and lose Delgado”.
If we traded Delgado for Putz, Heilman for Street and Castillo for Vazquez, plus whatever additional B level minor leaguers necessary, we’d still have a few holes to fill with that $30-35 million the team is supposed to have (Note that the trades equal out in salary).
So we still have holes in LF, 2B, SP, and 1B. Harper suggests playing Evans at 1B and Niese as SP5, while signing Ibanez for LF and Hudson for 2B.
I was curious what you guys thought about his suggestions.
if we trade delgado ,we need to sign dunn or manny!
I dont know if I am one of the few people who still would like Delgado around.. But mos def on the Heilman deal and also Castillo.
There’s not too many other solutions at 1B out there anyway!
I agree with other on here that Evans will never have the major league talent level we need..especially @ 1B, Niese starts the year at AAA again, and Ibanez is done!
Hudson will cost too much for his mediocre production!
How bout…
1. SS Reyes (S)
2. 2B Furcal (S)
3. CF Beltran (S)
4. LF Ramirez (R)
5. 1B Delgado (L)
6. 3B Wright (R)
7. RF Tatis/Church (R/L)
8. C Castro/Schneider (R/L
where is murphy?
1. SS Reyes (S)
2. 2B Hudson (R)
3. CF Beltran (S)
4. LF Dunn (L)
5. 3B Wright (R)
6. LF Church (L)
7. 1B Murphy (L)
8. C Castro/Schneider (R/L)
There is going to be no room for DMurph in the lineup if Omar upgrades this offense properly:
1. SS Reyes (S)
2. 2B Hudson (S)
3. 3B Wright (R)
4. LF (a) Carlos Lee (R)
(b) Jermaine Dye (R)
(c) Manny (R)
5. CF Beltran (S) (against lefties)
1B Delgado (L) (against righties)
6. CF Beltran (S) (against righties)
1B Delgado (L) (against lefites)
7. RF Church (L)
8. C Castro/Schneider (R/L)
Hit Church 8th with a lefty on on the mound or just play Tatis
That is a sick lineup
of course this is a pipe dream
Too many left fielders on your lineup Case..
1. SS Reyes
2. 2B Furcal
3. CF Beltran
4. LF Ramirez
5. 1B Delgado
6. 3B Wright
7. RF Guillen
8. C Castro/Schneider (R/L
Santana
Maine
Pelfrey
Pedro
Vasquez
KROD
Cordero
anybody who can get an out!
I know but what are you gonna do?
How’d you make that Guillen trade happen? I’ve got Castillo going to CH for Vazquez.
about as rational as any one elses! Not really that bad either. Does make the team better overall, except I am not sold on Ibanez.
And instead of Neise, sign Sheets for the last spot in the rotation. Neise in AAA getting ready. Or even the pen…
Instead of Ibanez, they could sign Dunn, and either have him in LF or 1B if needed.
I’d like that too, but Hudson and Sheets will cost at least 12 each and Dunn another 15. So that’s about $39 million added. Not including increase in salaries, bench and bullpen.
offset by not paying Castillo, Alou, El Duque or pedro…
Comeon stickguy, do you really think that the Wsox are so ready to get rid of Vasquez that they would take on 18 million to rid themselves of 10?
Furcal’s agent is saying that the article is bogus. The A’s haven’t offered 4/48, the the Mets are not interested, and Furcal doesn’t want to play 2nd. It’s the A’s, Giants and one other surprise team.
if we trade delgado ,we need to sign dunn or manny!
mi compatriota, if we trade delgado i don’t know about you but i would much rather have TEIXEIRA than al least dunn, manny for 2 years is good. no more than that.
hey klok, of course everyone want teixeria, pero 150 millones es muy caro. we are not gonna spend all that money on 1 player.
lol, chilling tu sabe, but i still think that we can afford him, i want him and k-rod, but i know is a pipe dream.
Dimelo Manito….
Oye Manny Krod Furcal…
Get a Vasquez and or Guillen…
Tamo Cloro? Tu ta Omo? lol
No por Na…
But Tex @ 150.. Sorry!
I rather Do Manny!!!
HE NEEDS TO BE IN NY!!!
Your source: El Caribe? ¡Ay, caramba!
Can’t the Mets just stop messing around and sign Orland Hudson? Please?? I can’t take another day of imagining Luis Castillo starting at second base, it gives me a stomach ache. Hudson says he wants to be on the Mets so just SIGN HIM
He isn’t that great, and he wants WAY more than he is worth….making another mistake will not, alas, compensate for the Castillo error. Hudson isn’t an all-star level player, is soon to be 31, has been hurt two years in a row, has never played in a postseason game, and it goes on…..
When he is ready to take about 4/30, which may still be more than he is worth, then I would think about him.
We have FAR more pressing needs than overpaying for another pretty good second baseman.
Exactly get Grudzy for 3 million 1 year and platoon him with Castillo and you will get almost the same numbers as Hudson. For that matter if you want Castillo gone so badly, release him and sign Grudzy.
Exactly!!
And it is funny—when you look at Castillo’s career until we signed him and Hudson’s now, they are VERY similar. Slappy got on base more, scored a few more runs, and hit for a slightly higher average, whereas Hudson had more power….Slappy was Hudson’s age when we got him, they both have 3 Gold Gloves, and they both missed some time due to injuries the last two years….pretty funny.
Hudson has Samuel/Baerga/Alomar/Matsui/Castillo written on his long-tern contact in big bold letters.
Not only that he wants more years and twice as much money. LOL. I would not pay but about 2 2B in all of baseball that kind of money.
It’s just that easy. No trade of Castillo, just release him. Thus you want to pay Hudson 18 million a year for the 1st 3 years and 12 million a year for 2 more years. Bringing his contract up to 5/78. Wow. All that for a guy that hits .282 .346 OBP and .779 OPS. Nice.
You don’t release him because there’s a trade off of a player of higher quality who’s contract would look cheap if you thought of Castillo as released. Releasing Castillo is flushing the money down the toilet. Paying 5 million of it and sending the other 13 million to the Royals for Jose Guillen’s 2 year/24 million contract is Guillen at 2 years/11 million which is a pretty damn good deal. Castillo’s problem case can be turned into a slightly better problem at a different position.
If the Mets were to just give Murphy a chance at 2B professionally, it could solve many of their problems. They won’t even give it a chance which shows you how ”not outside the box” they really are. Maybe they’ll suprise me though.
How about this. There should be some sort of rule against saying an ”executive” who’s unnamed is saying stuff. How we know such a person even exists? I’ll trust the player directly. The A’s made him an offer that I’m sure is in the neighborhood of the dollar amount he mentioned. The Mets likely made an offer at a little less too.
I still say it was a gift offer because it’s the same agent that represents Krod. I am sure stuff like this happens all the time. Hey we can make this concession if you pretend to be interested in my other client.
That’s possible. That wouldn’t suprise me. There is still is a chance they want Furcal though. In my opinion, Furcal’s more reliable talent wise. But Hudson’s more reliable health wise. Overall though because Hudson’s a natural 2B, you’d sign him. I don’t think you give a second basemen who’s numbers don’t seem to live up to the hype of the name that kind of deal though. They don’t have to spend 10 million a year on a decent second basemen. But they need to do better than Castillo. Moving Murphy to 2B would be the best idea. Or possibly looking via trade with a team like the Tigers for Palanco or O’s for Roberts.
Guys any talk of Furcal or Hudson you have to have a partner to deal Castillo to. That’s not going to happen without either adding salary or paying a lot of money in the trade. Is it really worth it to go from a guy in Castillo who will be batting 8th and most likely put up .275 .360 to a guy who will hit .290 .360 and will cost the team another 12 million a year on top of it?
I don’t think it’d take that much. An example may be the Mets swap Luis Castillo with the Royals for Jose Guillen.In this scenario without giving up a prospect, the Mets would have to pay at least one-third of what’s on Castillo’s contract. The incentive to KC is they save 12 million and have a second basemen.
If the Mets were to buy out Castillo, they’d only save about like 2 million at most. So it’s like the Mets are saving an ”invisible” 4 million by getting the Royals to cover that.
So the thought has to be anything extra the Mets are able to shave off his contract is a gift.So yeah, it’d virtually look like 2 years/30 million, but it depends on how you look at it. But the fact the Mets aren’t paying virtually 16 million of wasted buyout dollars, it’s like 2 years/14 million. And at that price, Guillen’s worth it. For what ever reason he doesn’t work out, he’d have plenty more trade value deadline time that Castillo ever would. I know he’s worn out his welcome in lots of places. But he’d only be here two years and he’s a right-handed hitting corner OF who’d slot into the six hole perfectly.
Boy that’s some finite math.
If the Mets take on Gullien for Castillo then they will still be paying more money than they are right now. Guillen makes 12 million a year. Thus you just added 6 million to payroll and you have to sign a 2B. If you add Hudson then you just added another 12 million. That means you added 18 million to payroll just to get rid of Castillo. Not only that but Murphy has no place to play.
Or you could start Murphy in LF and go with a platoon of Grudzy and Castillo at 2B. If Castillo still stinks you release him.
The Mets won’t end up with Furcal. If they do, it’ll shock everyone including him. Hudson’s not coming here without Crapillo getting traded. They won’t eat his contract. Guillen and Vazquez are not coming here without a prospect being in the trade. I really hope they can get rid of him.
If Castillo’s the 2 hitting 2nd basemen on Opening Day, it’ll be hard holding myself back from negativity. It’ll be hard believing the teams goals are mine. He’s a poison. He can get in shape just like Marbury can, but it doesn’t mean he’ll do well. Injured or not, he’s useless.
Not true. Look at his 2007 numbers and compare them to league average 2B. If he can even return to 2007 form he’s ok for now. He should be the 8 hitter next year not the 2. And I am willing to bet the Royals would unload Gullien and a prospect of their own for Castillo. It would save them a ton of money. Gullien’s contract is even worse.
Castillo does stink and I would buy him him. Release him? If all players were paid the same salary, I’m sure he would be. But when you’re due 18 million, you’ll get paid it for the sake of it meaning you’ll stick around. If you don’t believe me, ask Donnie Walsh why he hasn’t release Marbury yet. The Randolph and Crawford trades have proven that they won’t trade Marbury or Malik Rose’s expiring contracts for players with longer deals down the stretch because it’s interfere their LeBron/Wade/Bosh pursuit.
In the eyes of the Royals, why would they believe Castillo’s worth 3 years/18 million? He’s not. The most Castillo is worth is 2 years/8 million. I’ll be generous in saying the last year is 1 year/1 million. So it’s like a waste of 9 million being spent on him. With Jose Guillen, is 9 out of the 24 million that he’s due on his contract out of market value? No, not really. If he was, why would the Royals give him 3 years/36 million last season? Statistically speaking, they’ve gotten what they expected. If Guillen were out on the open market this off-season, he could probably pull off a 2 year/20 million contract.
So maybe Guillen’s a waste of 4 million? And Castillo’s a waste of 9? The difference is 5 million which the Royals would expect the Mets to cover. Financially speaking, the Mets would be responsible for 11 million extra. With or without Castillo, any reasonable fan would know the Mets are currently ”without a second basemen.” A qualified one at least. Going with Castillo at 2nd base on Opening Day is as reckless as Heilman as the 8th inning set up man.
There’s 2 ways you can look at the Luis Castillo situation:
1) The whole purpose of moving Castillo would be with the idea ”Yeah, we screwed up signing this loser to a 4 year deal. So maybe we can trade him for a guy who may appear to be a bargain beyond what ever he’d get in a buyout.
My view is that if the Mets would have had to eat 16 million, Guillen only looks like a 2 year/8 million deal. For a guy who’s averaged average 21 home runs, 98 RBI, a .277 BA, 153 games played and 595 AB, that’d be a big bargain. Even if you were to get him at 2 years/13 million, it’d still be a nice bargain. The options for right-handed hitting corner OF’s is so slim out there that if Guillen were a free agent, they’d may even consider signing him.
2) Force yourself to believe Castillo’s an adequate second basemen because of his contract.
Leave a platoon slot in LF. Ultimately, it’d leave the Mets with three platoon positions. Catcher (Schneider/Castro), second base (Castillo and someone else) & LF (Murphy/Tatis). The 2, 7 & 8 slots in the Mets line up would be a mess.I wouldn’t sign Grudzilenak because he’s type B which is a sandwich pick. The Royals may offer him arbitration. Google ”Did the Mets revolving door in LF, RF” and click on the first link. I wrote more about the negative effects these platoons are giving on the Mets.
You don’t platoon second base, mainly because right now, you don’t have anyone to platoon him with, which is another argument against releasing him. Also, since he’s a switch hitter, it’s silly. Let’s not go down the Murphy road right now, we don’t know if that would work or not. I’d accept batting him eight, or second, 7th is dumb. Castillo is far down on the list of priorities, and of all the holes, (Finding a 5th starter in the minors, the bullpen suddenly getting good..) I’d say Castillo playing better at 2B than ‘08 is the best bet of all of them.
Ok, Here is one for Hudson. You want to play in NY badly?
1st year 6 million
2nd year 6 million
3rd year 6 million
4th year 18 million.
That means we would only have 12 million tied up in 2B while Castillo is under contract. If we dump him so be it. If not nothing is hurt until 2012.
I agree totally—offer 4/30–35 backloaded and see how much he really wants to play for a winner in NY….how many better offers will he get?
if we got him for 4/30–35, THAT would be a good deal.
He won’t do it.
The reason he WANTS to be a Met is because we have been notorious in the past for handing out stupid contracts like Limpy McSlapster’s. He wants the next one. It’s not about the city or the fans or the schools, it’s about getting one of THOSE contracts, plain and simple. If we aren’t giving him one, his desire to play here suddenly diminishes and he’ll go elsewhere.
Bet is he does not even really care if he plays here or not. You say “I want to play in NY and will do it for a discount” to get other teams to up their offers. GM’s “Well if he really wants to play in NY and he is taking 4/32 from them maybe we can give him 4/40″
Good points Chico, and “Limpy McSlapster” is OUTSTANDING!! I did not think there were many more funny permutations of Slappy McSingleton left, but you have clearly shown that there are!!
It’s not a bad idea, but Hudson’s going to get more than 4 years/36 million. Plus this would hamper their payroll situation in the 2011-2012 off-season. I think the whole notion that Hudson wants to play in NY badly is just a play up of the media. He’d love to play here because of the money the Mets (and Yankees) have. Not just because he likes this city.
Can’t we all just agree to fire Omar?
No?
Based on what? He was given an extension so you can’t fire him for the collapse. So now you want to fire him because it’s rumored he wanted Furcal and he has not signed anyone yet?
i don’t think that’s fair. he turned around the franchise. it went from fighting to stay out of last place to being competitive until it chokes at the end of september. big improvement.
i’d prefer for the wilpons to sell the team
I would prefer neither. They have invested a ton of cash in to the organization and Omar has turned the team around with his ideas and their money. It’s nice to at least be relevant again. Before Omar it had been a long time since we were even in a position to choke. I would rather choke on food than to starve to death.
No. I don’t agree with that. But I’ll agree on something. I don’t think he deserved an extension. Or if he were to receive an extension, it shouldn’t have been for three years. Minaya’s done a lot. He got us Johan Santana for a bunch of average prospects. He got us Pedro Martinez. He convinced Glavine to stay around an extra year. And he did a lot of revamping to the bullpen prior to the ‘06 season that’ll he have to do now that he’s neglected the last two seasons. The rosters he’d provided the Mets should have been good enough to get them in the postseason. It’s not to say Omar’s couldn’t have done better. I’d give him a C+. People should get all emotional about this too. Lots of people regarded him as a ”baseball genius” in ‘05 & ‘06. Now they realize he’s just like any other GM.
Hudson has also been injury prone
just deal Castillo for Vazquez if possible and get Hudson
I think most of us would be good with that
Not me. Not unless Hudson lowers his demands. I still don’t want to make the Castillo/Alomar mistake 3 times. The guy is just not worth the contract he wants.
Now as for the Castillo trade? Sure but that’s not going to happen. Maybe if you traded Murphy, Kunz and Castillo for Vasquez.
The White Sox won’t do that trade without a prospect (or possibly Heilman) being in a trade. If you were Ken Williams, why would you want Castillo? There’s a team out there willing to take Vazquez off the White Sox hands if they eat like 4 million of what’s on his contract. So it’d be like Castillo’s contract minus 4 million. Is Castillo at 3 years/14 million market value? No, not really. The Mets will have to eat some of Castillo’s contract or give a prospect to get it done.
the Giants signed Edgar Renteria to a two-year, $18MM contract.
this means hudson will at least demand 4/45.
Yup. This move just came out like 5-10 minutes ago. Hudson will get more annually than Renteria will. Shortstops tend to command more though. But your guess on the contract Hudson’s going to get is realistic. At that price, he’s worth it.
Giants just signed Edger Renteria so there out of the Furcal chase.
Yes, but the not the Hudson chase. They’re still reported to be interested in them. If they see it the same way how some Mets people see it, they may see Furcal as a 2B too. I doubt they do though because he isn’t worth the same price playing out his natural position.
There is no Furcal chase
Three words: Sign O-Dog now.
That’s Orlando, not Omar.
the Mets need top notch SP, so pay what they have to for Lowe in dollars not years and sign K-Rod (he’s getting more than 3 years)
next sign Penny as the 4th starter and that gives the Mets the best rotation in baseball.
trade Heilman, Evans and Muniz or someone like that and get Street.
sign a gamer like Eckstein, Grudzielanek, Loretta to split time with Castillo as we’re not gonna be able to move him.
sign Daryle Ward as a pinch hitter to replace Marlon Anderson.
I guess there are discrepancies as to whether this is true, but if true, it’s pretty disappointing/ridiculous that the Mets perhaps did not make a strong a bid as the money starved A’s. I guess the economy is really having a big effect on Freddie…Maybe we should set up a fund for him where we can all donate money. I guess I’d be in for $10 or $20…anyone else?
You want to outbid someone for a 31 year old declining shortstop coming off a major injury who would have to change positions, so we can give him a huge long-term contract?
Wow, I thought you were just bitter and unreasonable; I guess it is somewhat comforting to know that you also know nothing about baseball.
Yeah Daryl Ward- that’s the answer. Kidding me.
Yankees are talking about Sabathia, Lowe, Burnett., Manny, Teixeira. We are talking about discount rack garbage like Garland, Wolf, Ivan Rodriguez, and an “economic”-friendly closer instead of K-Rod, perhaps. The Mets shop at the Mom and Pop store while the Yankees shop at Tiffany’s- some things never change.
Yeah, but so far it’s all just talk. Let’s wait until Omar has made some moves before judging him on all of this.