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The White Sox are asking teams for a young starting pitcher, plus additional players, in a deal for OF Jermaine Dye, reports Ken Rosenthal at FoxSports.com.
According to Rosenthal, “The Mets, Rays and 
Phillies are among the teams balking at such a price.”
Dye can block trades to six clubs, most of which are in the northeast, says Rosenthal.
…from what i recall, dye was willing to approve a deal to the Red Sox once before, so i would not take this to mean he’s anti-northeast, so much as he wants a say regarding where he ends up playing…
“On Tuesday, Nov. 11, several White Sox officials watched Bobby Parnell and Eddie Kunz pitch in the Arizona Fall League,’ wrote Mark Gonzales in the Chicago Tribune.
According to Gonzales, citing two NL scouts, the Sox were scouting players for deals that include Dye.
Speaking of the White Sox, “The Mets aren’t enamored with Javier Vazquez,” explains Rosenthal.
In a report from early November in the Chicago Tribune, Dave van Dyck wrote, ‘The Mets had interest in Vazquez,’ according to a well-placed source at the GM meetings.
Lastly, “The Braves, Dodgers and Mets are believed to be among teams that have inquired about Rangers starting pitchers Kevin Millwood and Vicente Padilla,” reported Jon Heyman at SI.com over the weekend.
However, according to Rosenthal, “The Mets and Braves are not currently interested in either pitcher.”
Rosenthal also reports on whether the Rockies will trade Huston Street; Atlanta’s quest for a starting pitcher, like A.J. Burnett; whether the Dodgers should sign Trevor Hoffman; and the logjam of corner-infielders in Boston.
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OMG, can we post something in the mets blog when it ACTUALLY happens?
Lance McAlister of 1530 WCKY in Cincinnati has a rumor up regarding trade talks between the White Sox and Reds.
McAlister’s source says the White Sox initiated talks to send Jermaine Dye to the Reds for Homer Bailey and another player.
i’d be shocked if that happens, homer baily is young and they shouldn’t give up on him yet..
millwood and padilla.
why doesn’t omar just punch me in the face?
LMAO!!!
Omar might if you stand outside his office and you nag him well enough about what he is doing now and who to get and what to offer teams. lol
he won’t need to, he’ll just throw 21 you knows and ums… then he’d forget what the question was… that’s how he avoids confrontation..
That would certainly get me to stay away from him. lol
Lets see, if a Starting Pitcher is on the Trade market the mets are interested. if there is a Free agent Starting pitcher or Reliever the Mets are interested. If there is a Outfielder on the Trade market or Free agent Market the mets are interested.
Nothing new.
I know these are just bogus rumors and misinformation.
But, for the sake of playing along, I take this stuff at face value (as in, as-sume it is valid just to have something to discuss!)
based on that logic, how could anyone be interested in Millwood or padilla, but not Vazquez? And certainly not without (a seemingly nonexistant) huge difference in money required?
Vazquez would be a respectable addition to the back end of the rotation. The ther guys are stiffs.
Now, that deal to the rays is enticing, although it could end up being a salary (and heilmann!) dump, if Jackson flames out. Really depends on the prospect (either a 2B or a C would be nice!)
Not that I know anything about Ru, or Ramirez for that matter., and of course it is probably totally made up. But it pas-ses the time..
We might need another week or two of pas-sing the time with speculation and rumors.
I like Dye trade only if it involves Jenks. From what Ken Rosenthal is saying, it looks like White Sox want a young starting pitcher and an outfielder for Dye, who will be basically one year rental. Way too much for a 37 year old outfielder. But if they throw in Jenks in the mix, I’m all for it.
wanting and getting are 2 differernt things. And I really don’t see jenks, at least not at a price that makes sense for Omar to pay. Certainly not when there are viable options just sitting on the FA sale table!
Now, if this trade did happen, it would start the domino effect. Might actually end up as a wholesale makeover of the team.
Most people seem to think there will be some new BP arms and a couple SPs, and thats it, but just maybe Omar goes big, and starts wheeling and dealing all over the place?
Something like a Delgado trade (or even Castillo) could certainly lead to 2-3-4 additional moves. Maybe even something good, like a Teix in our Xmas stockings!
Honestly, there are really only 3 postions locked up on this team (3B, SS and CF) and 2 SPs. beyond that, everyone should be in play for the right deal.
Ok I’ll play along….there is rumor going around that the Blue Jays are looking to trade Roy Halladay and that JP Ricciardo has stated that he is enamored with Val Pascucci…..so….yeah I’d do that trade.
But, if we give up Val, who will we all scream to call up when Tatis and Murphy slump next year?
Carp? Martinez? Maybe bring back Piazza out of retirement.
Oh, Heilmann can serve as the young(ish) SP. AH and Evans for 1 year of dye and his salary. SOunds OK to me.
Then unload Castillo for anything.
heck, Make it AH, Evans and Castillo for Dye and Vazquez. Mets eat the (large) difference in salary.
Move Murhpy to 2B. Get someone like Grudz to back him up.
Reyes S
Murphy L
Wright R
Delgado L
Beltran S
Dye R
Church L
Catcher. r/l (platoon)
Looks like a nice, strong, balanced line up to me.
santana, maine, pelf, Vazquez + TBD also looks fine.
Then just beef up the bench and fix the pen. Done.
fogot the obligatory dump Delgado for prospects and sign Teix (still doable with this plan). that my friends would be a truly balanced and scary lineup!
we all wish.
Fresh from the rumor mill:
Josh Byrnes wants to trade Brandon Webb AND Dan Haren for Luis Castillo and Pedro Feliciano.
My source is VERY reliable
Do it Omar!!!!
No way! That’s too one sided…the Mets are getting ripped off!
I don’t know about that trade. Webb doesn’t seem to be too reliable especially with his sinker. I think the Mets can get way better than Webb and Haren.
You are forgetting the most important part … They are not over 35, so no deal!
Is it a well placed source? We only accept rumors from well placed sources. There is also a very well known, very, very true source that says Mets will get CC Sabathia, Texieria, K-Rod, Fuentes, Juan Cruz, Burnett and Lowe.
Kent Brockman just reported that the Mets traded Carlos Beltran for Duffman. More details to follow….
We can’t accept that deal unless Met fans get a year of free beers.
I just spoke with a well placed source with knowledge of the Mets way of thinking and he told me this tidbit
“The Mets goal in both Free Agency and Trades is to get the best players possible while giving up the least players/prospects and cash as possible”
and remember this is from a well place reliable source who is familiar with the Mets way of thinking…so…Ken Rosenthal su-ck it
Breaking News; Mets put in a DH spot only when Manny Rameriz plays and sign him to a 5 year, 1 million dollar contract. On top of that Texieria announces he wants to play so badly for the Mets, he’ll accept a 8 year deal worth 2 million while Fuentes and Orlando Hudson agrees to play for free for the Mets.
Buster Olney is that you?!?!?!
Why yes … This just in … Omar Minaya sneezed – Details at a later late!
Later date but Buster Olney had a few too many to drink today. :)
I don’t see Vaquez being anything close to what he was in Montreal, especially in NY. We all saw him with th Yanks and everyone thought that he would be great.
My turn. Mets to begin rebuilding process. Omar plans on building around Reyes, Wright, and Pelf. Everyone else is for sale.
Ok I’ll start the bidding. Aaron Heilman – a bag of baseballs. You can’t beat that. :P
time to improve on this:
benfry.com/salaryper/
Before I went completely blind staring at that graph, the one positive thought I had was “thank God for the Yankees,” the team with the more precipitously dropping thicker red bar.
But yes, you’re right zen. Must improve on that. It makes the whole of New York professional baseball seem like the richest, dumbest group anywhere.
Patience is a virtue
no one has made moves, they will all come within a week at the winter meetings
think positive
agreed.
the mets are pretty solid and fairly enjoyable from november thru the last week in september when they choke.
When is the meetin’ s again?
And where they at?
Courtesy MLB dot com:
Dec. 1, 2008
• Last date for former club to offer salary arbitration to ranked free agents in order to be eligible for compensation.
Dec. 7, 2008
Last date for player who declared free agency to accept an arbitration offer from former club.
Dec. 8-11, 2008
Winter Meetings, Las Vegas
Which is exactly why no type A FA have signed yet.
Exactly trs86. It’s some combination of shocking and disappointing when this is not mentioned in the context of potential free agent signings.
Another relevant date: Dec 11 – The Rule 5 draft, relevant because I believe at least one if not more potential (I repeat, potential) members of the ‘09 Met bullpen will become apparent on this day.
thank you, digger…
Upsetting news from Rotoworld and the NY POST:
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The Rockies turned down the Mets’ proposal of Aaron Heilman for Huston Street, the New York Post reports.
A trade apparently is still a possibility, but the Rockies would want Pedro Feliciano along with Heilman. The Mets think that’s too high of a price to pay for a guy in Street who might not even be their closer by the time the season starts.
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Are you kidding me. Do it. Do it now. Feliciano is awful. He can’t get out a righty to save his life. We don’t need people like him in the bullpen. PULL THE TRIGGER OMAR!!!!! NOW…
I don’t think this has any merritt either. Of course the Mets would send Feliciano and Heilman for Street.
It’s according to the NY Post. It better not be true.
You me and everyone on this board would do it in a fraction of a heart beat. I’ll also give them Show, and Joe Smith if they want.
The scary thing is OMAR might not.
The bullpen is horrible and i want it completely revamped. Only guy I would consider keeping is Sanchez, because he was coming off a year and a half of injuries and rehab, pitched the whole season and might be in line for a rebound year.
Other then that all gone. Bye bye
I would keep Smith and Stokes for sure. Don’t really care one way or another on Sanchez.
Smith COULD be a real deal….
which brings me to Murphy and the sophmore jinx and the pitchers figuring out a young hitter and we need more time; let’s stop inserting this guy at 2nd, 1st and LF until we know what we got!
(Let the verbal beatings begin!)
“Expect the Cubs to figure out where Kerry Wood stands before deciding whether to offer.” From MLBtraderumors.
This guys is why no big names are being signed yet. Sign Wood now, cost a pick. Sign Wood in a couple of weeks, may cost you no picks.
mets not in love with Vasquez, best news ive heard all day…
Trading for Dye and Vasquez would be a great move. It fills two open spots and we are not committed to them for obscene money and/or years.
Sign K-Rod
Sign Beimel or trade for Street,
Sign Tex
Trade Delgado + money for an AL pitcher.
I arrived at a similar conclusion…
Sign Krod, Tex
Trade Delgado & cash for Sonnanstine (he’d replace Floyd as DH)
Trade Heilman and a prospect for Street
You get younger in all positions, end up with a payroll only slightly higher than last year’s, add a legit closer and a setup man that could fill in for him if he gets hurt or needs a rest, and you get better defensively on the infield.
where did you read or heard that?
Everyone forget that the Rays have Carlos Pena. So unless they’re in the market for a DH this is hogwash.
The Mets are rumored to have offered Victor Zambrano and Rick Peterson for Scott Kazmir. No word on how the Rays view this deal, but according to a source close to Peterson, Victor Zambrano has been fixed up and ready to become an ace of Rays.
ryu stinks, i can’t imagine he’d be there in place of Ramirez….maybe he’s the prospect and ramirez is still in the deal..i hope so man, cuz im teliln ya, if delgado goes, we’re goin after tex
yeah, that means that after all my prayers will be answer!!!!! next up.. the lotto!
Is this another “well placed source?”
Going by your name spurious, I’m gonna have to say you gotta be joking right?
i was thinking the same thing…
i also find it funny that his the link attached to his name is simply a pic of mets legend, Big Mo V
odd indeed
actually, if u click on his name at his first entry, it’s big mo…then if u click on his name in 2nd entry, its the definitiion of spurious, which is FAKE, untrue, etc
so yeah..whatever
Maybe the mets will trade Delgado and resign his boy Vaughn
Why in the world would Tampa take on more salary and older players and give up a young starting pitcher and prospects? I have no idea.. especially when they have Carlos Pena playing 1B
for a DH.