Comments on: Links: VORP, Hater, Wright, and Castillo

By: nrmax88

nrmax88 — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 19:45:36 +0000

Haha, so true James. So true. At least somebody realizes.

By: nrmax88

nrmax88 — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 19:42:33 +0000

Of course, why would you read anything that doesn’t exactly fit your biased attitude? I mean, you must be better off being uninformed then being open minded and, oh, I don’t know. Examining the things that matter, instead of blindly following a pack of idiots who hate Heilman because they don’t understand how to evaluate a player. And oh yeah, we all know you didn’t stop reading, you read the whole thing, so just save it.

By: Gina

Gina — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 19:28:43 +0000

Thats what happens when you fill in crap around stars.

By: elephants

elephants — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 19:17:20 +0000

For all of the fans who think that the Mets are “over-hated”, read
The Bad Guys Won (Book of the 1986 Mets team).
Look, the Mets will never be liked in the NL.
So what?
Sign the closer we need (Krod) and trade for Street (goodbye Heilman!), 2 starters (Lowe and Wolf) and for once in a long time, make the right decision and sign MANNY. Sign Mark Loretta as a utility – backup player. Marlon Anderson (as the lefty PHer)
Can you imagine the lineup (not in this order, but these players)of:
Reyes
Castillo
Beltran
Wright
Delgado
Manny
Church
Schnieder
Bench:
Tatis
Murphy
Loretta
Anderson
Castro
Staff:
Santana
Maine
Pelfry
Wolf
Lowe
Pen:
Krod
Street – 25 years YOUNG
Feliciano – still needed to get leftys only out!
Schowenweis – nobody will take him in a trade :(
Stokes – this guy will be a stud this year. The new Sanchez
Sanchez -
Then you rotate rookies – Parnell, Niese, Kunz throughout the season and see which one develops.
If you don’t like this last option, then go out and get Oliver back.
I am sick of hearing the Mets can’t afford a closer, pitching, etc.
Last year the Yankees spent OVER 350 Million dollars in FA signings or resigning their own players (Rivera, Posada and Aron cost them over 300 million alone).
The Mets need to stop thinking like the “second city” team in NY.
Stop worrying about being “hated” by other teams.
Satrt worrying about scoring so many runs in a game that starters like Maine don’t have to worry about giving up 3-4 runs and losing or having to be pin-point perfect for wins.
Krod signing not only shores up the pen, but sends a message to Lowe and Wolf that they can win 15 plus games BECAUSE the mets HAVE a closer.
Happy Thanksgiving.
Omar, get to work!

By: Deadpanwalking

Deadpanwalking — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 16:25:01 +0000

Oh come on, Heilman is treated like Darth Vader in New York, nobody is that bad. Having said that, I wish him well at his next team. Beltran is definitely over-hated, he was an all-star. However, it’s weird to have so many all-star caliber if not hall-of-fame players on a non-playoff team. It sort of makes fans nervous.

By: metsftw

metsftw — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 07:13:47 +0000

agreed with both of you–this post didn’t have an anti-stat bias at all, but regis and other writers (except the guy that did the division roundup, whatever his name is) have certainly shown an aversion to advanced metrics in the past.

while we’re at it–amazin’ avenue is a great blog. it’s too bad eric doesn’t have more time to update it, even though he manages to do it almost once a day. if he had the free time cerrone does, i can’t even imagine the content on there. mindblowing.

By: Regis Courtemanche

Regis Courtemanche — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 00:43:09 +0000

Well played, Slob

By: JamesK

JamesK — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 00:20:43 +0000

toomanyunis,

My comment was a result of the ongoing rejection of any kind of statistical analysis here. It seems all we ever hear about are player’s “clubhouse demenaor” and “chemistry” and “leadership”, etc. There was a post a few weeks back suggesting the Mets need to focus on improving their chemistry this offseason – it was ridic.

This instance isn’t too egregious, I admit. Maybe they’ll come around.

By: JamesK

JamesK — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 00:09:44 +0000

Omar Vizquel is old and terrible. He was worse than Argenis Reyes in 2008. He put up a .222/.283/.267 line.

The fact that the Giants gave him even 300 PA’s is unfathomable. His D is still good, but not good enough to justify playing him. There’s a reason no one is talking about him – he’s just not a good player anymore.

By: toomanyuniforms

toomanyuniforms — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 00:06:16 +0000

No argument there, especially when they even seem to infect RAWLINGS(TM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) Gold Glove voting, but you have to admit, linking to a site discussing historical VORPs (and the Baseball Prospectus glossary for the curious and uninitiated,) and suggesting calculating VORPs might have involved a lot of work, is not “anti-stat,” whatever that means.