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In the Daily News, Adam Rubin reports free-agent LHP Brian Fuentes is seeking a three-year deal worth around $33 million, according to a source familiar with the discussion.
…in the end, though, i’m guessing it will cost three-years, plus an option, at close to $15 million per season, to sign Francisco Rodriguez…
Rubin says the Mets do not believe Fuentes is worth that asking price, ‘but they are still interested in the former Rockie.’
Omar Minaya began reaching out to the agents for Rodriguez and Fuentes on Wednesday, according to multiple reports.
At MLB.com, Marty Noble writes, “Weeks ago, a member of the Mets hierarchy acknowledged the club doesn’t view Fuentes or, for that matter, Rodriguez, as it did Wagner, in a ‘must-have’ way.”
That said, according to Tim Brown at Yahoo!, the Mets had once discussed signing both Trevor Hoffman and Fuentes, ‘though surely neither would lower themselves to pitch the eighth inning.’
…and not if fuentes is seeking $10 million per season, they aren’t signing both closers to share the job…at that point, they’d be better off trading for Huston Street or J.J. Putz and signing K-Rod, which i still believe is what they are trying to do…
In fact, in a special Hot Stove report for FoxSports.com, Tracy Ringolsby writes, “The Mets have targeted Putz as their priority in filling the need for a closer.”
By the way, according to the Associated Press, Rodriguez does not expect to sign a contract until after the Winter Meetings.
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I’d do it..
K-Rod & Putz? Heck yea!
Fuentes & Hoffman? Heck NO!!!
No I mean Fuentes straight up haha
Oh and Street and Fuentes would be cool
Krod and Putz is sooooooooooooo much cooler
Hey Matt; could you and your team put together who you think will end up on the Mets this offseason; til things heat up?
We all respect your opinions and it could generate some lively discusiion while we wait for the Jets game on Sunday!
Happy Holidays, dude!
Minaya has already blown one great trade this off-season. We should have had Street already. Heilman and Felicano for Street? Heilman is done here, and Felicoano is noit in Street’s league.
What a joke.
Mind you we know what to expect from Minaya and his handling of the BP, becuase the last two Winter’s show he hasn’t got a clue how to put a BP together.
How do you know that that report is even true?
I’m sure it’s just some rumor or something cuz I really dont think Minaya is THAT stupid
“How do you know that that report is even true?
I’m sure it’s just some rumor or something cuz I really dont think Minaya is THAT stupid”
With regard to the BP, he has proven he IS that stupid.
Twice.
What about in 2006 when he signed Bradford and Oliver and traded for Sanchez? That bullpen was one of the best in baseball that year. So while the last 2 years did not work out, 2006 sure did. And 2005 worked out OK after he pulled Roberto Hernandez out of nowhere.
Ya see! Omar gets too much of the blame…
Great call Eddie! This winter has been boring so far. I like the Street, KRod combo in the pen and Jon Garland and Niese in the rotation. I think we will sign Bobby Abreu for the outfield. Unless, the price of Dye goes way down. The rest of the team should remain intact.
You are in the second chance for the second baseman camp? I’m starting to think Louie will be back and play better too…
Your suggestion look good; and real!
2nd=Daniel Freakin’ Murphy
Don’t get wrong, Murphy was very exciting to watch. But without even a full season under his belt are we getting Jeff Kent or Gregg Jeffreies?
No… The guy has a work load like a veteran, he’s smart, and from what i understand, he is a pretty good 2nd baseman… I’d do it in a heartbeat
He’s not a “pretty good second baseman.” Omar already nixed that idea. He’s an outfielder or possibly, with work, a first baseman.
Just read that the only Met included in the Johan Santana trade to crack Baseball America’s top 10 for the Twins is Mulvey at #8. And Carlos Gomez isn’t even projected to be in the lineup in 2012.
Man, what a great trade for us!
What’s wrong with Carlos Gomez? I think he did pretty good last year for a young guy
Gomez has a world of athletic talent, but his hitting skills are a problem. Last year he struck out 142 times and only walked 25. That’s a major problem for a guy who is not a power hitter.
hmm… didnt know that..
Can’t steal first. Someone needs to tell Gomez that. In the brief time we had him he seemed like he had no clue.
142K’s and he didn’t play a full season. For a guy that relies on speed, having a long loopy swing like he does is not a recipe for success. The reason scouts were so high on him was because of his 6′4″ frame and insane physical ability. Hitting is another story however. Not everyone can do it. John Kruk and Tony Gwynn didn’t have an ounce of Gomez’s talent but they could hit .300 with their eyes closed (in Gwynn’s case, .350).
Cut the kid some slack. I was never enamored with him, but he is really young and raw. I think in 3 years he will end up fixing his discipline at the plate and become a much better hitter, walker, and base stealer.
On that fast surface in Minnesota, he could lead the league in doubles.
For the record, I like Carlos Gomez and was sad to see him go. I meant for my post to target the Baseball America Top 10 and projected lineup not Carlos Gomez.
You must be quite the seer since you know so far in advance, based on reding one rag that agrees with your preconceived notions, that, Minaya made a great deal. In fact after one year the Met finished exactly in the same place they finished before the deal, therefore making the deal after one year completely neutral for the Mets, while the Twins, who you pound so readily improved their place and finished tied for first, somethingMinaya hasn’t seen for a bit of time. Therefore, no advantage Mets to date.
Without Santana, we’d be an 80 win team at best.
Twins finished 2nd. Check the standings again.
Kanehl, you are really one of the most obnoxious and ignorant posters on here.
Without Santana, who is one of the very best pitchers of this era and we have signed for several more years, we surely would have had a much worse season, and without his 2nd half, we would not have even been in the running the last week.
Sure, the Twins and a resilient organization, and sure we blew it again, and sure, the Wilpons’ wealth had a lot to do with getting Johan, but Omar held out and did not send Pelfrey or FMart, Gomez stinks, and this was an AMAZING trade in all ways.
It is very appropriate that you named yourself after one of the worst players in Met history.
I look forward to your first civil, intelligent, informative, or even remotely necessary post.
That’s the Twins ARE a resilient organization…not that it will matter to Furioso Jr.
They’re putting way too much stock into Putz, who’ll cost more in talent than they wanna spend.
I think K-Rod is the perfect fit for New York for all the reasons fans have heard a hundred times. Considering the Rockies got a fairly good/medicore young closer with upside for a premire right handed outfeilder and now are shopping him for reported lows. I don’t see why the talks haven’t increased more. Im still skeptical over that Omar declined Heilmen and Feliciano for Street because in the long run do u honestly think the Rockies would accept two decent relievers with upside for their best player? My ideal world would be street and K-Rod but I honestly don’t think I’d mind seeing a Street Fuentes tandem lefty righty at the end of games either considering his acceptable price.
k-rod is better than any other closer in baseball except, Rivera, Papelbon, Nathan and maybe Lidge.
i dont see any logical reason why the Mets should trade their top prospects for Putz, when a better pitcher is available in FA.
Cash money and commitment.
4 years for 26 year old for 12-15 million is more than reasonable
This is true…
for a guy who pitches 60 innings? ugh
This is also true..
for a guy that pitches the 60 most important innings of any season.
we all hate the position and think it’s overrated. ok, i understand that. however, in today’s game, it’s a necessary piece to the puzzle. do the phillies get where they got if they had tom gordon or ryan madson closing? probably not. they may not have even made the post season. if the mets can shore up the bullpen, add a quality starter and take a shot on Ben Sheets, they can be vastly improved.
and if we had k-rod instead of wagner/ayala/heilman all season we wouldn’t have missed the playoffs. so i dont care if ppl dont like giving that much money to a relief pitcher, thats what you have to do…deal with it
This is what I think should happen:
Mets should put Tatis as an everyday LF,
Murphy at 2nd,
Sign K-Rod for what he wants,
Trade for Street,
Sign Garland,
Put Niese in rotation.
Maybe even sign Maddux if that works out
I like what I saw from Niese last year. He looks like Zito with a 2003-like Zito fastball. Once he masters his command and confidence, I think he could be a great #4, behind Johan, Pelf, and Maine. However, I am not sure I would trust him with the 5 spot coming right out of spring training. I think he should be thought of as a spot starter for now. I am also against Garland. Not impressed at all. I would rather have Niese as my 5 starter than Garland.
why you dont want to spend money? sign ollie and sheets. that rotation will be so weak.
johan
sheets
pelfrey
maine
ollie
niese in AAA.
also we cant rely on tatis for a full season.
Sheets???? His arm is ready to fall off. No thanks.
Murphy can’t play second. He just can’t. He’s no more a second baseman than Delgado is. I’d love to test the guy and give him a chance to prove everyone wrong too, but wishing isn’t going to make this one so.
This whole post opens so many wounds:
1. If the Mets don’t sign KROD, they will regret it. It is not ofter “Mariano Rivera -AKA the best reliever in baseball, now KROD” becomes available. Don’t think other FA starting pitchers aren’t watching the Mets to see what they will do. KROD gets them each 4-5 wins and if he tuurns a Jon Garland into a 14 game winner, think of what he does for Lowe, Wold and Burnett.
2. Going the “CHEAP” route of signing Hoffman (OMG!) and Fuentes (33 years old, couldn’t handle the closing job in friggin Colorado, would bee crushed in NYC) and then turning to the fans and asking us to “sell out” Citifield?
3. JJ Putz and Street are a viable option. But to trade for both would cost the Mets 6 to 8 players (Kunz, Parnell, Martinez, Carp, Heilman, Feliciano) at the least! Do you think the Mariners are just going to “Give” us Putz? They will want Martinez plus as they are losing Ibanez to FA and are rebuilding. Colorado is in the same mode as I live here…They are ridding themselves of Tavares and lost Holiday. They will want PIECES for Street. Carp is a possibility as the Rockies could plug him in at first after Helton retires.
But again, the Mets put Carp on the 40 man because they see his upside.
If the Mets go route #3, then they need to take the money and sign Manny, (4 years 85 million, player option year 5) Lowe (3 years 45 million with and option) and Wolf (3 years 32 Million and an option).
That would be a total of 47 million. Considering we just lost Pedros 12 million, Alou’s 7.5 million, Easley’s 1 Million, Perez 6.5 million, Those alone comes to 27 Million – so it is a net gain in salary of 20 Million or what Citifield Paid the Mets for the naming rights.
Please, don’t insult my intelligence that the Mets can’t afford to make changes. They sold 62 million dollars in luxury boxes (money that doesn’t get shared with other teams) and are opening a new stadium.
The offset of Street and Putz’s salaries would be in the players traded.
Then our team is set!
This comment is gold… never thought of that stuff…
Thanks….
As a long suffering 30 year plus Mets fan, the next 2 years are the best time for us to win this thing again.
I don’t want to hear about the money from the Mets.
Last year the Yankees spent OVER 350 million on player in the off season counting just the contracts to Rivera, Posada and Arod.
The Mets are a Closer (Krod), Left fielder-right handed power hitter (Manny) and 2 starters (Lowe and Wolf/Garland) away from 95 wins.
For all of you who want the Mets to win. With manny in the lineup, the Mets starters won’t need to “penny-pinch” the corners worried about giving up 2-3 runs in 6-7 innings.
The Mets would be scoring 5-6-7 runs a game.
Reyes, Beltran, Wright, Delgado, Manny, Church, Castillo, Catcher.
Bench of RH Power Tatis, Castro
LH Murphy, Anderson
Sign Mark Loretta for utility
while i would love to see Manny here, i just dont see him signing anywhere for 3 years and while i would give him any amount of money for him, if the mets ever want to move him b/c of his attitude problems, the years would become a problem.
besides Jeter, Manny might be the best winner out of any hitter in baseball, and the one thing the mets desperately need someone who knows how to win not to mention .300 30 HR and 100 RBI is a lock
Keep that Cancer Manny far away from Flushing.
He is a just not worth the crap.
agree, spend the freakin money on good players.
Quite frankly, I’d see the Mets sign Kerry Wood and Chad Cordero and/or Juan Cruz, and trade Heilman and Feliciano for Huston Street – these three or four together would be far less than KRod alone and all can throw faster too (we’ll see about Cordero but worth an incentive-heavy punt).
Bullpen could be Wood-closer, Street-setup, Cordero/Cruz, Smith, Stokes and Schoenweis (trade if possible). BIG improvement from last yr but would be nice to have one more lefty…
One plus of Fuentes is he is a lefty… Minus is that he has won and lost closer role a few times. I don’t rate him that highly given his inconsistency.
As for starters, I’d rather see the Mets sign Randy Johnson or Brad Penny than bring Pedro back. I fear that Ollie will be looking for too much but it might be better to stick with the devil you know than the devil you don’t.
Anyway to convince Jake Peavy to consider the Mets?
Oh, and finally, if you actually follow baseball, Jake Peavy wouldn’t pitch in NYC if you held a gun to his head.
Kerry Wood and Chad Cordero and/or Juan Cruz, and trade Heilman and Feliciano for Huston Street – NO!!!!!!!!!
Wood and Cordero both have arm injuries. Cordero won’t be ready until May at best. Wood will be on the DL by June 1st.
Then we have Street and Cruz alone?
Randy Johnson or Brad Penny than bring Pedro back!
Look, Randy Johnson! Are you kidding? He is 45 years OLD.
Brad Penny! Brad penny. Another injured pitcher, yeah, that’s what we need.
Randy Wolf is a much better option that “I walk so many hitters” Perez. Wolf thrives in the NL East. He is a lefty with a 2-1 ratio od K’s to W’s and on the Mets he would win 15 games easy.
The devil I know about Perez is that he was given a 5 run lead in the biggest game of the year against the Cubs and WALKED it back to them.
why would they sign Wood over K-Rod, K-Rod is better in every possible way!!!! not to mention he’s 100% reliable
misread ur post, Derek Lowe is the best SP available although Penny on a 1 year deal wouldnt be so bad
Maybe Penny for a one year with incentives for a second (like 200 plus innings, 2-1 k to bb ratio, 15 wins, etc) I would consider it.
But Penny has not demonstrated that he has fully recovered.
D Lowe is a ground ball/K pitcher with low walks…exactly what the Mets need.
But it all starts and finishes with the Pen.
Think about it….if you were a starting pitcher, looking for a multi year deal, would you sign with the Mets current bullpen?
This may be Lowes last contract, so I doubt he is looking for stat security (i.e., wins secured by a closer), but the other starters (Garland, CC, Sheets, Penny) are looking for the place to Win games that meke their future contracts that more attainable.
By the way, my starters (Lowe and Wolf) are followed by Sheets and Penny with incentive laden goals.
Perez is an after thought.
Another starting pitcher you forgot to mention is Braden Looper who has found himself as a decent SP. Or even Andy Pettite who may part ways with the Yankees. I think the best bet for the Mets will be to trade for Vazquez or sign Garland. These are the two most reliable players are the costs they’re at. Wolf has only started 80 games in the last 4 years which is everything but reliable. We don’t need him. Signing Ollie would be better since he’s healthy.
haha braden looper
Ayala 7th Street 8th Krod 9th and round it out with cordero smith and looper (in long relief).
I’d take Wood over K-Rod any day.
Is that your actual baseball sentiment or is it some kind of bedroom related humor?
LOL! I was going to write that it is a good thing Simon isn’t making the decisions, but your response is far better…..
I disagree with one thing said in that Daily News article. Regardless of whether K-Rod or Fuentes is the closer, it doesn’t make it any less justifiable to not trade for Huston Street because K-Rod and Fuentes got no control it’s what’s going on in the 8th inning. If the Mets sign Fuentes, people are going to look at it as a consolation. I’m happy that they’re pushing away from him and are more intrigued by K-Rod. It’s all about age. K-Rod’s a better pitcher but his younger age is why it justifies giving him more money.
Anyone remember when Fuentes came out onto the market and said he’d sign if he got 4 years/44 million? There were some people thinking he could get as high as 46-47 million. Now that he’s formally taking down what he’s looking for we should expect for K-Rod to soon. K-Rod wants to be a Met. If he wants to be bad enough he should get here before Omar signs Fuentes or trades for a closer. Fuentes isn’t worth 30-33 million over 3 years. More like 24-27 million. The Brewers will probably sign him with Torres retiring, Gagne coming off the books and the committment they had shown to trying to re-sign Cordero to a 4 year/40 million last year. K-Rod will be a Met on a 3 year/39 million deal with a 15 million dollar team option or 3 million buyout.
The Mets will try to play their hand with K-Rod and he’ll try to gauge his interest. But he’ll end up a Met within the next few weeks. Work something out with the Rockies. And if they can’t, do the trade they offered anyway? Does anyone remember what people were willing to give up for Street before he was traded to the Rockies? I kept hearing Bobby Parnell or Eddie Kunz, Nick Evans and more. We can get a really good set up man for just Heilman and Feliciano who were two of the most over worked subpar relievers the Mets had last season. They’ll work something out there. They’ll need to sign one more reliable reliever from there. If Feliciano were to be gone, probably a lefty. Either Beimel, D. Reyes or Ohman. All of this would transform our pen and it’s all within the Mets reach.
heilman and feliciano for street is a no-brainer, i seriously doubt Omar turned that down. Schoeneweis would fine as a lefty specialist.
as far as i’m concerned if Omar doesnt sign K-Rod this offseason is a complete failure. No excuse for not getting one of the best closers in baseball when he comes knocking at the door…
You are so right….the off season would be a disaster IF we don’t get KROD – just like when we didn’t get AROD and then VLAD.
These players come by once, maybe twice in free agency.
Hmm?
Why would that be a steal?
Street’s command is getting worse at a more rapid pace than Heilman. For all we know this was just a bad year on Heilman’s part. Heilman not only has more trade value than Street but much better stuff.
What ever happened to opening the vault with a new stadium (field) ?
Omar; C.C., K-Rod and Tex.
Fred’s got the cash; go for it and see what 2 outta 3 you can sign!
We have been close the last three years.
Let’s get this TaxPayer Field party started!
Though I am a vegetarian, I will dare to write the metaphor that I might have found a way to kill two turkeys with one stone. Trade for Putz, at all costs, sign him to a mega-extension with a clause which includes naming rights. That way, whether he is healthy and productive or not, we can still call our new ballpark Putz Field for many years to come, which might be the most fitting choice.
I think its interesting that we have no clue who the Mariners want for Putz. Seeing that the Mets feel this deal can be completed leads me to believe that Fernando Martinez is not included.
I think we should look into Randy Wolf, Javier Vazquez, and Ben Sheetz. The right handed power bat in LF should be addressed next year seeing that Jason Bay, and Matt Holiday could be had for money.
How much money do you give Sheets? He has arm problems…and heart problems:)
Jason Bay? UR KIDDING ME!
Signing Manny takes care of all RH POWER/LF issues for 3 years. You will need to spend 5 for 3 years…but that’s what the Mets did to get Pedro. Manny is the player that completes the Mets.
Then sign Wolf, Mark Loretta (best utility player in baseball right now available), Garland/Lowe, Krod, trade for Street.
I could GM the Mets.
Dude, have the Pedro and Wagner situtations taught you nothing? Signing old people to incredible contracts isn’t worth it. I don’t have much against old baseball players, but their health is too much of a risk.
Personally, if we are to sign an outfielder, my favorite would be Brian Giles. His OBP is going to rise over the next few years and he won’t be expensive.
Anyways, Garland isn’t a horrible solution to the 4 and 5 SP holes, but really he isn’t the best. He got a big name from being on the WS winning Sox team, and will likely demand quite a few years and $$. HOWEVER, the SP market has gone rather insane. I’d go for Garland if he can take a 3 year, $36 million contract.
For the 5 hole, I’d get Randy Johnson, who wouldn’t be a bad 1 year investment.
Wow, impressive hypocrisy! First criticize old players, then advocate the soon-to-be 38, probable juicer Giles, and 45-year old walking injury Randy Johnson!
Manny is almost a year and a half younger than Giles, is not in decline, was probably not a juicer, and is infinitely better! And as for clubhouse nonsense, have you ever read about Giles’ antics? He may be one of the most idiotic and childish players in the game.
There are some of you out there who still don’t get it (see the Giles post).
The Mets need RH Power. They had NONE last year when needed.
Manny fills the bill. And then we would have Tatis off the bench for power as well.
Giles! That is one guy who says he wants to win and vetoes a trade to the red sox and the playoffs. Giles sux big time.
Finally, I am NOT sold on Church and his concussions. Mets need a closer and 2 starters, but they need a right handed power bat! NOW.
The Pedro signing taught e this…that players looked at that signing as a change fromt he old LOSER menatality to a winning one and was a big reason Beltran came over.
Sign manny and Krod, then the other players will follow in kind.
Because of his age, his Type A status, and the short-of-cash competition, the deal is going to have at least 4 years. I doubt it will go up to $15 million a year though.
Fuentes, due to his Type B status and the fact that he is basically a second round prize will likely get a lot of money, probably around $39 million a year.
k-rod, ny mets.
3 years @ 42m