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According to Joel Sherman, in a post to his blog for the New York Post, the Mets intend to a) acquire a front-end starting pitcher, b) also acquire a fifth starter, but c) give Jon 
Niese a chance to win the job in spring training.
In fact, Omar Minaya told reporters the above gameplan while at the GM Meetings in California last month.
That said, Sherman suggests the Mets look at Cubs RHP Jason Marquis, M’s LHP Jarrod Washburn and Tigers RHP Nate Robertson, all of whom will be available, to compete with Niese.
The Red Sox and Tigers had been discussing a potential swap of Dontrelle Willis or Robertson for Julio Lugo, but the deal is now ‘unlikely,’ according to the Boston Herald.
“How about Scott Schoeneweis and Marlon Anderson for Marquis,” asks Sherman.
“That would save the Cubs $5.1 million and essentially give the Mets a dependable fifth starter for $5.1 million.”
…actually, my sense is the Mets will wait on finding a back-end starter, let the off-season play out, see what prices drop, like maybe Jon Garland, while monitoring the trade market, such as Javier Vazquez, and seeing if any interesting pitchers are non-tendered and 
added to the free-agent pile…
…from what i can gather, the Mets have shown a slight interest in garland, who is seeking a long-term deal…
By the way, last off-season, the Cubs were shopping Marquis, and had interest in OF Endy Chavez, reported the Daily News.
…from what i recall, the Mets inquired about marquis during the 2006 season, and had checked in on him again as a free agent, but their interest was minimal at best…
The 30–year-old Marquis has won at least 10 games and pitched at 190 inning in each of the last five seasons, while posting a 4.58 ERA, during which opponents hit .261 against him.
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I don’t understand why we would trade for a guy like Marquis or bring in Garland over bringing in a guy like Wolf who’s better and a lefty.
Depends on contract demands. If some how we could pull of the deal for Marquis then it would be 1 year 5 million. Wolf will certainly make more than that for more years.
I don’t particularly like Wolf. Yes he’s a Lefty, but he’s also a guy who hasn’t made 20 starts in a season since 2004 except last year. Also his Career BAA is only .010 lower then Marquis and his WHIP is only .07 lower. Over the last 4 years it’s identical and he has made 76 Starts and threw 428 innings. Marquis on the other hand has made 158 starts and has thrown 960 innings. Sorry I’ll pa$S on a guy who can’t make 20 starts.
Marquis wouldn’t be great, but as a 5th starter I wouldn’t mind him, especially if they can deal Show and Marlon Anderson for him. Wow. Do that and the Street Deal then my bullpen dream is almost a reality. Then you’d only need to sign a Close, Starter, and one or 2 middle relief guys. You could still have money to Upgrade the OF.
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If they can get marquis for a deal similiar to the one mentioned above I’m fine with that. Marquis is usually pretty healthy and besides last season is a big time innings eater. Wolf had his first healthy season in about a half a decade and will cost twice as much in years and money then marquis. I’d be happy if the mets rounded out the rotation with sonnanstine and marquis. We would have money to adress other needs besides starter and bullpen.
Underscore, “innings-eater” which is the primary objective of your 5th starter. Marquis fits that fine..
would the cubs trade marquis for show and anderson, you think?
that wouldn´t be a bad deal.
If the Cubs actually consider doing it, then it means their scouts haven’t seen Schoeneweis pitch.
I don’t get this hate for Show and the Love for Feliciano on these boards.
Show actually was more effective against lefties and righties then Feliciano was. Yet everyone hates him but loves Feliciano. It wasn’t even close
Show against lefties:
29.2IP | 18H | 3HR | 6BB | 25K | 0.81WHIP | .178 BAA
Feliciano against lefties
29.1IP | 22H | 2HR | 8BB | 34K | 1.02WHIP | .210 BAA
Against Righties they both stunk but Show’s WHIP was .2 better and his BAA was .024 better.
I don’t get it.
For what it’s worth, I can’t stand either one of them.
i actually am a FAN of show believe it or not lol…yeah, he’s let us down, but he’s misused..he’s a TRUE loogy, and with the lefty heavy lineup in philly, and just lefty power hitters in general, if he’s used properly, like mike stanton or arthur rhodes have been, he can be very effective…
Cuz show killed us on the most important day of the season. Plus he looked like he was on drugs afterwards.
Show is horrible…check out the inherited runner stats….I agree with Chan Ho and would trade him for a pack of bubble gum or a small bag or pretzels (twists or rods.)
And look at Show’s entire career—he is probably one of the very worst pitchers to ever have made this many millions. He is good at getting SOME lefties out. But certainly not good ones in big spots.
Oh don’t get me wrong i want them both gone along with Heilman, Delgado and Castillo. If you can get a SP for Endy Chavez. Move him also, he’s a defensive replacement at best.
I too dislike Feliciano more than Show. Feliciano did not have many runners to score because he came in faced 1 LHB walked him and was taken out. How many times did we see that this year?
Why the love for Feliciano and not Schoeneweis? Simple. Feliciano has had very good success as a Met in his career. Schoeneweis stunk from the get go.
Bingo!!
The Cubs would consider moving him, because he ended the year in the Bullpen. Is making $9.875M in 2009 to be a Long Reliever.
Currently they have:
C. Zambrano
R. Dempster
R. Harden
T. Lilly
J. Marquis
J. Samardzija
S. Marshall
In their starting Rotation. So if they Dump salary in a movie trading Marquis it opens up a spot for Marshall or Samardzija.
Not to mention I think Peavy will be a Cub
I don’t see how he could be. There farm system is failry barren after Vitters, or w/e the 3rd basemens name is. And I think they’d be silly to move someone like him with so many backloaded contracts and so many old players.
Just a note to the gentleman above…if the point of the cubs is dumping salary, they probably don’t want to bring in a mid reliever who makes as much as Schow.
It saves them 5 million dollars for this season. Show makes 3.05 and Anderson makes just over 1 while Marquis makes as i stated 9.875.
So yes it does make sense for them to do.
Also I listed 7 pitchers they deem as Starting Pitchers. SO i don’t see where this issue arises. They would have plenty of Starting pitching possibilities. Plus they have the guy they had in the Majors to start the year last year in AAA. I can’t remember his name.
Maybe he was a flash in the pan, but I am actually intrigued by Dontrelle right now, especially if we can get him when his stock is so love. I still think he would thrive in New York. What was the contract he signed with Detroit after the trade last year?
I was thinking the same thing. He has some good tools, he’s young, he could thrive possible returning to the NL, and he has the excitement to succeed in NY.
I’d be interested for the right price.
Only if it is next to nothing and the Tigers pick up a lot of his salary. The thing is, he completely lost his control last year. When I say lost his control, I’m talking about Rick Ankiel 2000 levels. In 2008 with the Tigers, he pitched 24 innings and walked 35 batters. That is not a typo. 35 in 24 innings. Something is majorly wrong.
as long as we don’t get robertson..i think his BAA last year was something astronomical like .360…he’s one of those pitchers u look at initially and say “yeah, i’ll take a chance on him” but once u get him or look a lil deeper, he’s a train wreck…i’ll take marquis if all else fails…
this team just needs to SPEND MONEY this year…trade for vazquez, re-sign ollie or sign sheets, trade for street, sign K-rod, sign another bullpen arm (every day eddie, biemel, howry), and see if you can trade delgado and sign texiera. This team needs to step up, not step sideways with guys like garland and marquis….because after seeing philly win, it makes me SICK just THINKING about those fans in our new stadium this year…we’re gonna have NOTHING to say to them…NOTHING…so lets make a statement NOW in the offseason
Dontrelle signed a 3yr/30mm extension after the trade to Detroit. That’s a lot to pay for a guy who’s 10-17 with a 5.66 ERA, and a 1.67 WHIP that past 2 years…
Sounds like they’re saving money on pitching to go after Tex.
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Teixeira!
good luck with that.
I don’t disagree…but sadly I’m realistic.
I’m not. I’m a BELIEVER!
Wrong pic, Matt. That’s Ryan Dempster!
Ugh…even the rumors are boring. I hope Omar’s patient strategy pays off because this waiting around and doing nothing is killing me.
I would be moving in aggressively on K-Rod at this point. I don’t’ want to settle for the scraps left over after the aggressive teams are done. Fuentes lost his job in Colorado, do you really think he can handle the NY pressure?
no I don’t think he will be our closer…Krod is our first choice no doubt about it. Fuentes is a bargaining tool and a decent fall-back option if Krod becomes unreasonable. And judging by his agent, I don’t think he becomes unreasonable.
Who are the “aggressive” teams you refer to? I can’t seem to remember anybody making a move so far, other than the Holliday trade, and Affeldt going to the Giants…
Who is this front-end SP they are talking about? Yes we def need one, but who are they targeting. They have shown no interest in meeting the demands for Burnett and Lowe is attracting many suitors, including his former employer in Boston. It won’t be easy to acquire one of those two. So let’s say we do not, who are we gonna go after? Ollie would be the only other FA SP in that tier. Otherwise we will have to look into the trade market, and I’m not sure thats an easy solution.
I’m not worried about the back-end yet, but I think we should and will sign/acquire a dependable veteran to start the season as the no5. Niese should not be handed the 5 spot, he should have to earn it and worst-case starts the year in AAA as depth. As we have seen the past few years, we will need a 6th,7th, or (hopefully not) 8th SP at some point in the season.
Maybe it is time to give Aaron a shot as no5.
i think he will get his shot. it’s just going to be with another team.
Oakland or Texas
Heilman got his shot….twice….enough, this point has been overplayed so much for a guy who was given two opportunities to be a starter and failed both times….once when eh was called up and when he lost out to Bannister…
If you could not beat Brian Bannister than you should not be a starter in MLB, PERIOD. Bannister is one of the bottom 5% of SP’s in MLB.
I’m not sure how you prove that stat, but it’s certainly not correct.. he had one great year (Bannister) and a tough year last year…
He faces much better lineups over there then he did in the NL.. he’s young and cheap…
If you put him on waivers he would get claimed in about 3 seconds
The funny thing is … he did beat Bannister in spring training. The Mets still chose to stick him in the pen. Don’t use facts or anything…
Bannister actually registered a slightly better ERA than Heilman did in Spring Training ‘06 (though both were excellent). At that point, Heilman’s ‘05 success in the ‘pen came into play.
ERA was so close it was a wash. Heilman won the job and didn’t get it. Mets already had their mind made up before he even competed for it.
and then people wonder why Heilman hates being here