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According to Lyle Spencer at MLB.com, Angels GM Tony Reagins denied reports that his team is more focused on signing CC Sabthia over Mark Teixeira, despite reports suggesting otherwise.
The Giants continue to negotiate with free-agent SS Edgar Renteria, reports the Associated Press.
Free-agent OF Casey Blake is seeking a three-year, $20 million deal, reports FoxSports.com.
The Tigers are interested in Rangers C Gerald Laird, according to the Detroit Free Press.
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i’m hoping the angels sign sabathia and let us bid for #25 after we trade delgado over there.. that’d be sweeeet…
Agreed. If Angels sign CC the Yanks will have to go after Burnett, Lowe and another just to make up for CC. I doubt the Boston interest is legit. It’s not their MO.
Then the Mets can swoop in for Mr. Tex.
I doub’t the Angels would want Delgado, they have a serviceable backup in Kendry Morales. They’ll likely try to improve the OF instead.
Rumor has it that if CC doesn’t go for the Yankees, they target Tex instead as their big acquisition. I’m sure they can still throw piles of money at him while wooing burnett, etc.
How? Tex’s contract is equal to or larger than CC’s. So you’re saying they can get Tex and Burnett, Lowe, etc.? I doubt it.
Agreed. I don’t see the Yankee’s interested in Tex at all really. They don’t have to have a 1B they have options there with the new guy, Damon, Posada etc. They however need SP and plenty of it.
Forget it. It won’t happen. This team needs to put their money into pitching, not 1B.
And what about next year when we do need to put money into first base? One of the problems with this team is we don’t seem to think long-term enough and instead seem to try to fill holes the same year they come up.
Funny how when you keep asking people that question, about who plays 1B after 09, not one person who doens’t want to talk about Tex has an answer.
There are 3 answers sitting in the system. MURPHY, EVANS, CARP. I guess Met fans are so used to having to get guys off the FA market tat they forgot there is something called player development.
If you go that route, you have to put a bat somewhere else so you’re signing a free agent anyway. Why not just go for the complete player?
Evans hasn’t really proven anything. He slugged this year but he also had an insanely high BABIP. At this point writing him in for 1b is a little foolish. And Carp has yet to show any power in the minors so he’s not really a solution at this point either. And Murphy hits too lightly for 1b so if we for some reason ended up putting him there we’d have to find a big time bat to fill the hole in the line-up. Not to mention if he’s at first who’s in lf? None of those guys have really shown enough to warrant pa-ssing over a player like Tex. I mean the Sox have Youk and Lars Anderson in the minors and they’re still planning on trying to bring Tex in.
bingo Mikey
I am not saying he is going to be anything but I mean why did the Mets draft a 1b in the first round of the draft this year?
Not saying he is the answer there next year or in years to come but I mean if you want to build threw your system you cant be signing every free agent to fill every hole.
Who knows who will be available next year at first base threw trades or otherwise.
I would love Tex, I would love Tex over Delgado, but in my opinion the Mets have bigger wholes to fill this offseason then 1b.
Agree completely. We know that if we bring in Tex that we only have 1 hole to fill and that’s LF. Between Murphy, Evans, Tatis, and maybe eventually Fmart someone will stick there. If you just move on then you have a hole in LF and a hole at 1B next year. You are going to have to sign a FA to fill one of those holes either this year or next year and Tex is the best player to fill the hole this year or next year.
Davis didn’t show anything this year, albiet in a small sample size, to make anyone think he’ll be ready anytime soon. Plus if he turns out to be something he could be moved to the outfield, where a lot of scouts have slated him in anyway or traded for another need. Plus we don’t have anything to trade and why trade prospects when you can just open the checkbook for a proven player? And we know for certain who’s going to be an FA next year, Adam Laroche, Delgado, and I think that’s it.
The point is there is zero reason to not at least try and go after a long-term sure thing for position you have nothing but question marks for.
well, there is one name on the list that I think the Mets should be targeting.
anyone care to guess who???
I think Alex knows.
For a change, the Mets should trade a guy 1 year early instead of 1 year too late!
and for all the people that think Delgado has “no trade value”, then you sholdn’t want him on the team, since he will not be productive.
He should have a decent worth though. Had a big 2nd half, and is only signed for 1 year, no buy out (I don’t think) at reasonable salary for his production. So yeah, some team (like the angels or rays) should have a use for him! Especially in the AL where he can DH.
Heck, he could be a viable option for the Yanks too.
Considering what the Sox want for Dye, Delgado has some trade value.
The
Rays,
Jays
O’s
Possibly Angles
Yankee’s
Maybe M’s
All would give a decent return for Delgado.
why aren’t we pursuing Blake at-all, at 35 he’s still relatively old (as opposed to alou at least), and 3 years-20 mill ain’t bad…
to do what? Play LF? Lot of money for a utility/bench guy.
Agreed, I wouldn’t mind him as a bench/utility guy but certainly not for than contract.
he’s not latin, that’s why!
typo matt SABATHIA ;)
reposting this since it will probably be lost at the bottom of a dead thread…
as it really plays into my dream of chasing after Teix as the big pick-up of the off season.
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I think they should sign wood for 2 year deal, and concentrate on the real problem from 2008:
the middle/set up guys were dismal.
Yeah, they blew some big saves down the stretch. But that wasn’t a closer issue per se. Rather, it was because the 6/7/8 inning guys weren’t doing the job (where the bulk of the blown saves came from) and not one was cabable of stepping in when Wagner went down.
so more important to me is beefing up the middle guys. Frankly makes the choice of closer less important 9and all of the main guys mentioned are soemwhat of a crap shoot).
Wood to me given the likely length of deal, $$/year, and not being a type A (no draft pick lost) but still a FA (so no prospects traded) could be the best overall option.
And if the back up guys are beefed up (the guardadao/hoffman/street/cruz/etc. options), the 2 important areas are addressed:
less blown saves (leads given up), and viable options if the closer (no matter who it is) goes down or just needs a day off.
And the mets do have a budget, and other holes to fill beside the pen. So saviing 5mill/year is certainly a positive (f used to upgrade another postion).
the fear with wood is that he’s always hurt.. but i tell you.. HE THROWS GAS!!! I saw that game when he struck out the albatros-s garbage of luis castillo and i tell you.. he was just flaming in it there..
I agree with this for the most part.
package fmart… Carlos Lee
no.. no.. and for the last time NOOOO… if omar didn’t trade him for the best PITCHER or manny at the deadline why would he trade him for carlos lee coming off an injury ending season? not gonna happen..
Disagree, Lee is not a long-term solution, with his size and defensive “abilities” the only teams that should seriously be considering trading for him are AL teams.
with that said, get k-rod, trade for huston street, and i’m sure that the rest of the 6 or 7 guys in the bullpen can all combine to get 3 to 6 outs in the 6th and 7th inning.. trade delgado for more bullpen help and get TEIXIERA…. sign ollie if not sheets, and omar can get a couple of those scrap shoots starters like penny, garcia, to get the 5th spot.. DONE..
teixeira doesn’t make sense for the mets. their primary needs are starting pitching (at least two), a closer, two middle relievers, and a left fielder.
why would they sign teixiera to an 8-10 year deal? the guys contract won’t be worth it.
Who plays 1B after 09? Teixeira makes plenty of sense for the Mets and his contract will be plenty worth it.
that’s next year’s issue. how about solving this year’s problems. delgado was the offensive player for much of the second half last year.
why create another hole? the mets have enough offense. they finished second in runs.
Luckily, zen, GM’s don’t think year by year. This is about building a team that can compete for years not just for one.
The point is, you have to be able to look past this year. Besides, what other hole are you creating?
and that would be a bad contract. the team’s offense is built around beltran, reyes, and wright. giving tex $20m will hamper re-signing reyes.
they need pitching. and role players. unless it’s a 2 year deal for a manny or dye.
LOL so now Tex would hamper signing Reyes? Are we the Royals? Who is going to play 1B? If you get someone making 12 million a year you really think that 8 million will keep them from signing Reyes?
Tex allows us for sure to keep LF a cheap slot for years to come. Not signing Tex means that either LF or 1B will have to have a big contract one way or another.
Beltran’s contract will be up by 2011. And by 2011 20 million per will be cheap for a player of Tex’s caliber anyway. Overpaying some of these older pitchers, like Lowe and Burnett, would be more of a hamper in resigning reyes.
Not to mention once Delgado is gone we’re going to need more than just a role player. Beltran, Reyes, Wright is a good core but it’s not a complete core. None of them have middle of the line-up type power. Which is what Tex would bring. Even if we don’t resign Tex we’re going to have to bring in someone to fill that hole. And who else do you propose we bring in?
look, i agree with you, i’m the first one preaching for BULLPEN, BULLPEN, BULLPEN but with him our offense will be potent.. and having k-rod and street we’d be cover in the playoffs (coz i’m sure with tex we will make it not so sure with delgado) as long as we get at lest another front line starter we’d be good.. look at the phillies of 08 and the cardinals of 06 they only had one bonafide pitcher and won.. GUYS, GOOD BULLPEN AND GOOD OFFENSE can carry you as well… don’t forget the yankees won most of their championship with bullpen.. MARIANO.. that’s why the braves didn’t have like 3 more chmpionship is coz they never had that great bullpen.. get me tex, k-rod get rid of delgado and get street and we’ll be good…
Because we’re going to have a huge hole in the middle of the line-up and at 1st next season and Tex is the best available option this year and next year. We can either overpay for Tex or overpay for someone like Adam Laroche. Or pray a solution falls out of the sky into our laps. Tex is the best answer for a long-term solution for us at a position where we need a long-term solution. And a better deal than some of the contracts you’re going to have to give out to starters. I’d rather them overpay for Tex than overpay for Lowe or Burnett.
if we get him we won’t have to worry about our offense for years to come as the young guys will keep developing to get better, then we can concentrate in the draft in getting good pichers.. that can help us double, imagine in 2009 or 2010 having
#7
MURPHY- 2B
BELTRAN-CF
TEIXEIRA-1B
WRIGHT-3B
CHURCH-RF
MARTINEZ/EVANS- LF
CATCHER..
wouldn’t that sound promising lineup for years to come..
The contract will be more than worth it. In 8-10 years, the $20 million he’s asking for will be a huge bargain.
This is a great point. We can spend now to save later.
It doesn’t look like C.C will sign with the yanks,Which he stated he rather play in the west coast in his hometown of california…if the angels dont make an offer he will have to accept the deal.
If we get tex that would be a tremendous lineup but am not countin on it to happen.
CC is either a Yankee or a Brewer, Angels want Tex and Boston will probably go for a guy like Burnett and/or Lowe.
Since when is boston looking for a SP. They have bucholz and just signed a japanese pitcher.
Boston is apparently looking at everything. I guess they figure they can move some of their pitching prospects to fill other holes, mostly likely to the Rangers for a catcher, if they bring in another big time pitcher. I mean when you have the cash and an overflowing farm system why not try to build some sort of super team.
Here’s my fear for the Mets…
There’s really three top-line starters out there. CC, Lowe and Burnett. If CC signs with the Angels, then the Yankees will definitely go hard after Lowe and/or Burnett and we know the Braves are talking 5-years for Burnett.
Are we really going to fill 2/5ths of our rotation by bringing back the incredibly average and overrated Perez (a Boras client guaranteed to get overpaid) and Jon Niese? Are we really going to roll the dice on the always-injured Ben Sheets?
Let’s quit all the Teixera talk, since it’s stupid, and start figuring out how to get a front-line starter and three bullpen arms!
By your logic, the Mets will be out of consideration for the 3 big FA pitchers anyway … so why not talk about Teixeira?
Because Tex won’t get us to the World Series.
Pitching, pitching, pitching.
We were among the league leaders in runs scored last year. Offense ain’t the problem.
Plus, once you sign Tex, you’ll be forced to give away Delgado because everyone knows you HAVE to trade him. We’ll be lucky to get a bag of balls for him and we’ll be forced to pay some of his salary.
You totally avoided my point though. If the Mets are shut out from those starters they will be forced to fill in with lesser guys. If that is the case, they can sign Tex and still do that. There are plenty of options for middle relief on the FA market as well.
Tex doesn’t get us to the World Series? Yeah, what does guarantee that? Nothing. Tex does, however, guarantee you have a superb core for the next 6-8 years.
6 to 8? that seems to be stretching it, not so much because of Tex but because of the contracts and ages of some of our players.
Oh and you’re way off on how you view Delgado.
The idea would be to trade delgado first for a #5 starter then sign tex..I understand that once delgado is traded tex will ask for the world but Id much rather invest in tex then lowe/burnett.. There isnt a frontline starter out there worth it. Let the yankees overpay for lowe/burnett. Id resign ollie and get garland and or trade for marquis. And look at what the phillies won with?? Id go all in for bullpen and Tex. Krod/Wood-closer
Street/Hoffman-8th inning
Then round out the BP with guys mentioned like guardado/reyes/lyon..pick one and were good 7th-9th inning.
How is that stretching it Gina? Wright and Reyes will be here. Beltran will be here most of that time. Tex would be signed for that length.
That’s the core I speak of.
mikeff
can you explain to us who want teixeira this:
“Oh and you’re way off on how you view Delgado.”
please elaborate..
He said,
“Plus, once you sign Tex, you’ll be forced to give away Delgado because everyone knows you HAVE to trade him. We’ll be lucky to get a bag of balls for him and we’ll be forced to pay some of his salary.”
He’s way off.
Reyes’s contract will be up in 4 years, counting on 09, and I believe Beltran’s will be too. Wright’s contract is up in 5, he has an option for 2013.
I can even imagine the kind of cash we’ll be shelling out to re-up them.
thanks.. i didn’t see that one..
i’d like matt to start some sort of poll asking how many of us would like teixeira here… i’m sure 90% would agree to that..but i’ve said all alone get rid of delgado now then we get help at 2b lf or bullpen, then go ALL OUT FOR #25….
Wait I was wrong. Reye’s contract is up after 2011 so 3 years. Obviously I don’t expect him and Wright to go anyway I’m just saying that it’s not guaranteed. And we’ll be shelling out of a crap load of cash for both of them.
Gina, unless Wright and Reyes fall on their face … they will be here long term.
Beltran is here for a few years, regardless if he comes back or not.
yeah, nothing is guaranteed … you have to a.s.sume the two franchise players will be here.
reyes and wright will be here unless WILMER FLORES becomes a beast and we have to give him either spot…
Blake, although not the ideal player, might fit better into the Mets off season budget than either Dunn or Ibanez. If we got him at 6.5-7 million a year that leaves plenty of budget open to for a closer, mid reliever and two starters…
But is he a better option than a platoon or Tatis and Murphy which wouldn’t cost us anything extra?
would rather have Dunn… could play OF for a year then slide to 1b after Delgado is gone… of course this is plan B if we dont get Tex… personally I’d feel more comfortable spending the money on Tex then Lowe/Burnett for 5yrs… there will be some #4 or 5 Sp’s out there that may step up to a 3 …. It’s a given that we are going to get a closer at a reduced price so that may help Omar convince the Wilpons on Tex
nice bro, but 5 years to either burnett or lowe is SUICIDAL!! but i agree with you well done..
I like Sonnistine… everytime I’ve seen him pitch he’s been tuff… he may not have as good stuff as edwin jackson but i think he could handle NY
I’m hoping the reason we didnt trade heilman, is cuz he’s going to Tampa…
I think they may both get 5 yrs… Krazy
he can be like rick reed but less better control.. i’d sign up for that..
I think the big thing is how much is Dunn going to command. He is great, but not clutch and K’s every other at bat. I am not saying so much that Blake is the player I want so much as he seems more in line with what the mets want to spend on OF, with that position being about 4th priority this off season. Not sure you can count on Tatis to be as quality as he was last year, as he has been the oposite throughout much of his career, and I am sure that Murph will find plenty of play tme with the wide range of positions he can play/ covering for injuries. Besides, I think we need Tatis off the bench. I think Minaya would pick Blake over a platoon, but as I have always said…OF is probably going to be something he only looks at after the pen and roation is settled and we see how much money is left.
I have a poll to see whether Met fans want Tex. It’s on tex4mets.wordpress.com or just click on my name.
done case!!!!! 76% are saying yes!!! OMAR CAN YOU SEE THIS WEBSITE!!!!?????!!
case, can you get another pic of teixeira without the braves helmet?? lol..
You bet.
That question in the abstract doesn’t mean anything. I’d “want” for the Mets to sign a lot of people. If you posted a question or series of questions with more specific parameters such as “Would you rather sign Tex or put that money into pitching” or “Are you confident enough in Tex’s future health and ability to give him a huge guaranteed seven to ten year contract “, you might get some pretty different numbers. Maybe you won’t, and the same number of people will want him in those scenarios (you are, of course only polling people who would visit a site called Tex4Mets, so it’s a pretty self-selecting group on this topic), but it seems like it would generate much more useful information.
Well, I figured I should first see if people are interested in Tex and then see under what circumstances.
i’d like to see the pitching staff predictions from those who want to sign teixeira for $20m a year.
santana
pelfrey
maine (if healthy)
lima
trachsel
hoffman
heilman
felciano
schoeneweis
smith
stokes
your 2009 3rd place mets
Amen.
Giving Tex $200M when you’re gonna have to pony up for Reyes and Wright in the middle of that deal is just crazy. Offense is not this team’s problem.
Signing Tex will mean forgoing needed upgrades to both the starting staff and the bullpen. It’s like no one watched this team last year.
The Mets payroll is not bottomless.
And I’d say 4th place only ahead of the Nats.
HI HATER!! HI HATER!! YOU SEE ME HI HATER!!
yo yo. i had my hater-aide this morning.
not back to reality. answer the question about the pitching staff.
mets were #2 in runs last year. citi will be more hitter friendly too. there is no foul space. shea had lots and lots of foul territory
I’d like to see what your pitching staff prediction is without? We’re pretty clearly not going to be going after Sabathia, and our chances look pretty slim for Lowe or Burnett. So what big money pitchers do you see them bringing in making it impossible to sign Tex?
They are not going to answer this question just like they will not answer the question about 1B in 2010.
k-rod
street
smith
feliciano or no-show
sanchez
stokes
santana
maine
pelfrey
2 of ollie, lowe, garland, penny (if one year deal), others in that area who pitch into the 7th regularly.
starting pitching wasnt the problem… it was the bullpen… we are going to get a closer… probably krod at a discount… setup and long relievers are a crap shoot anyway… omar will find some bullpen help without breaking the bank…
Come on Zen you are better than this.
Tex cost us 8 million more next year than Delgado. That does not keep us from signing a closer or a SP.
Santana
Pelf
Maine
Niese
Anyone
You have 3 inexpensive starters all you need is one that comes between Santana and the other 3. It’s not going to break any bank. Zen, i’m very disappointed but appreciate the opportunity to discuss my favorite topic this offseason.
Sign Tex!
that starting rotation isn’t going to win me over :)
I’d rather have Tex in the lineup with Niese and 1 of your “goes 7 innings” guys, instead of No Tex and 2 of your guys. I don’t see how going after Tex makes it so we can’t at least get one of your guys. Plus, there are other options like Johnson, Pettite, Sheets or anyone who will go for a 1 or 2 year deal.
Honestly… what kind of market do you people think is out there for a 37-year old first baseman/DH making $12M?
His OPS+ was virtually the same last year as Adam Dunn and Pat Burrell and neither of them were even offered arbitration.
We’re now trading a guy who was “washed up” in June (according to most on this board). The guy had an AWESOME half season where he OPSed 1.018 (starting with the 9 RBI game)… but he OPSed .702 the first half.
Who is really trading a 5th starter for this guy?
Plenty of teams. That 12 million is a 1 year deal. Burrell and Dunn are not. A team like the Rays would much rather have Delgado for 8-12 million (as suming we chipped in some if need be) than Dunn for 4/60.
Delgado/Heilman/cash for Sonnistine/Bradford or Balfour
Ok….Im going to sound like a whacko…Im 30..been a Mets fan forever ..its handed down in my family from father to son….Every year around this time I have this weird ritual …I clos my eyes and think of the guys I want the Mets to sin or trade for …then I try to envision them in a Mets uni…sometimes it doesnt look right and the ones that do usually sign ..I was on the money with Santana last year ..so here goes my vision:
1st - Delgao and Castillo are the starters ..PERIOD
2nd - K-Rod will def be our closer ..NO DOUBT
3rd - For some reason Rocco Baldelli seems like an ok fit to platoon in Right w/Murphy..and I wouldnt mind him
4th - Houston Street ..not a Met ..Juan Cruz ..will be a Met
5th - No Manny,Tex,Dunn, Peavy ,C.C. or Lowe
Im no Nostradamus but for the past couple years I been pretty darn close…do I want us to egt those other guys..HECK YEAH!!
Cmon Omar prove me wrong……GO METS!!
*CLOSE * SIGN
thank god you’re not nostradamus…
For those that are saying that Tex’s long term contract is a bad one, you’re wrong. Here’s just a few reasons why:
1. In a few years, $20M will be a bargain for a 1B of Tex’s caliber. Think of Beltran’s contract, it’s becoming a bargain compared to other top tier players.
2. The team’s budget will increase every year so they will have more money to spend.
3. With these four cornerstone position players, the rest of the lineup can be filled by inexpensive role players like Church.
4. The team won’t need to spend big money anywhere else. We have 3 SP’s under control and will have Niese most likely next year. So we really only need one other decent SP (doesn’t have to be a top tier pitcher).
5. I’m sure there’s more, fill in:
Agree on all points. And for the fact that 1B is a very important position in the NL and if we don’t sign Tex then Delgado will be our 2010 1B.
UGH!!!!!!
Well Case, the more I think about it, I think you have sold me. If the Angels sign Sabathia, maybe it can happen….then we send Delgado to Seattle or somewhere for someone to set up for KRod.
#1 really is probably true, as is #3…..with Johan, Tex, Jose and DRod, we don’t need any other big money players.
OK, let’s get it done…maybe Omar can win big at the tables in Vegas and kick in some dough to make it happen.
I’m probably late but according to MLBTRADERUMORS,
whispers of a possible White Sox-Mets blockbuster. The Mets would receive Jermaine Dye and Bobby Jenks and the White Sox would receive Fernando Martinez among others.
Anyone hear anything?
I keep up with Mlbtraderumors all the time. When was that posted?
Right now!
not true..
Well it was posted.
Sounds terrible.
WOW,i hope is not true.. but oh well.. after that i expect to see MANNY or TEIX so i’m all for it if that’s the case..
I don’t buy it…Now the Vazquez deal is done, and their is to move Dye, they are going to need a bat for 2009…no one in the vazwuez deal gives them that and Fmart I dont think would. very curious.
I don’t know what to say otherwise. I’d rather trade Fmart for a 35 year old manny than dye, but then we also get a young cheap effective closer.
Considering I’ve seen absolutely no indication that Dye would waive his NTC to the Mets, I’ll consider these whispers to be really, really, really quiet whispers.
I’ve seen no indication he wouldn’t. But I don’t disagree with the rest of your post.
That wouldn’t make any sense given the number of closers available. Plus, the WhiteSox kind of need Dye now that they’ve traded Swisher. Oh, Omar won’t trade F-Mart unless he’s trading for Jesus himself.
It really is silly that some on here do not understand that signing Tex will allow us to fix many problems for years to come. It’s not really going to cost us that much money in the long run.
Example
You sign Tex for 20 million
You trade Delgado and a prospect for Sonnanstine. Sonnanstine is as good or better than Garland. You just saved a 4/40 million dollar contract as Sonnanstine is undercontrol and cheap.
Thus you are getting your #5 starter and Tex for 20-22 million for 4 years.
If you do it another way and bring in a high priced LF or 1B then you have
15 million for them and 10 million for a #5 starter= 25 million a year.
Remind me again why the Rays are interested in Delgado and how they would possibly affor his $12M price tag?
Umm because they paid Cliff Floyd 8 million to DH last year? You throw in 2 million and they just got Delgado’s much better production on a 1 year deal to replace Floyd.
they have like 6 starting pitchers and at least 1 will be moved.. why not get delgado to replace floyd with “leadership”..
Cliff Floyd made a whopping $3M last year. I have no idea where you’re getting your numbers.
2.75 millions.. is true real..
Not only did Floyd make only 2.75 mil last year, but the Rays already declined their 2.75 mil 2009 option for him. They’re just not going to spend that much on the position. Their highest paid player currently signed for 09 is Crawford at 8.25 mil. I don’t see any way in which they’d pay anywhere near Delgado’s contract for someone who can only DH…or, frankly, for anyone else….
Whoops, that’s what I get for listening to someone on here instead of checking myself. I guess you could say that Delgado would replace Rocco and Floyd.
Just read this on mlbtraderumors.
Perrotto speaks of whispers of a possible White Sox-Mets blockbuster. The Mets would receive Jermaine Dye and Bobby Jenks and the White Sox would receive Fernando Martinez among others.
Hopefully this is not true.
braves ready to offer 5 year deal to BURNETT!!!
“Perrotto speaks of whispers of a possible White Sox-Mets blockbuster. The Mets would receive Jermaine Dye and Bobby Jenks and the White Sox would receive Fernando Martinez among others.”
this is the post…. wow..
If omar does this it means he’s gotta win this year…
which s**** becoz i’d like to keep on WINNING for years to come.. but with that said he better get somebody BIG!!!! ala TEX, MANNY, CC… somebody BIG !!
Im kinda liking where this is going. Obviously depending on who else besides F-mart we gotta give up. But if this trade actually went down it would probably lead to a domino effect of trades for us and would sure up 2 big needs in LF and Closer for real cheap.
John Perrotto of Baseball Prospectus speaks of whispers of a possible White Sox-Mets blockbuster. The Mets would receive Jermaine Dye and Bobby Jenks and the White Sox would receive Fernando Martinez among others.
if the mets are willing to trade f-mart (not sure why)…they should package him for peavy
Peavy isn’t coming to The Mets without an extension.And that is only if The Yanks don’t want him.
So let me get this straight…
Sign Tex for $20M a year
Trade Delgado, but pick up at least $4M
Sign Closer for $12M a year (or more!)
Pay Wagner $10.5M
Pay Santana $20M
Pay Beltran $18.5M
That means 4 players on our team will be paid $85M. The rest of our contracted players will make between $40 and $50M next year putting our payroll at between $125 and $135M. Since our total payroll is going to end up being about $140-$145. That leaves about $15M to fill our two rotation spots, the rest of our bullpen and our hole in LF (unless you think Tatis/Murphy will cut it).
Who is your suggestion for LF and 1B in 2010? Let me get that straight 1st.
For 2010? Let’s worry about that when it’s time to worry about that. I’d kinda like to at least make the playoffs in 2009. Seems like a worthy goal to me.
That’s a horrible way to build a team. You build by thinking long-term. Building season to season just puts you in terrible situations, ie the one we’re in now where we have too many holes to fill with the limited resources we have.
AGAIN.. WE ARE THE NEW YORK METS… not the kansas city royals!!
if us fan are spending on going to the stadium they should spend as well, SNY and CITI BANK are paying big divident to the mets!!!
Easier said than done considering we’re in the middle of a recession. Baseball attendance dropped off the second half of last year… and the Mets (although ticket prices will be higher, right?) have less seats to sell this year.
And it’s not like $140 M is a cheap payroll. It will be one of the top 5 in baseball.
Adding Tex instead of Delgado cost 8 million more a year. Hardly a big deal considering Delgado’s return in trade could be someone that would cost 8 million a year.
santana
peavy (for f-mart, murphy, other)
pelfrey
maine
garland, lowe, ollie, or penny (1 year deal max)
k-rod
street (for heilman, feliciano)
smith
sanchez
schoenweis
stokes
reyes, ss
baldelli, lf
wright, 3b
beltran, cf
delgado, 1b
church, rf
schneider/castro, c
castillo, 2b
Admirable limb you’re going out on… but the Padres will not deal Peavy for F-mart, Murphy and other unless the other is a top pitching prospect. Just use the Braves initial offer as a template.
Secondly.. are you saying Penny would be just a one year deal… or that you wouldn’t do more than one year for any of those 5th starters?
Thirdly, Street for Heilman and Feliciano is someone’s pipedream.
1. peavy requiring a pitcher makes sense
2. penny would be 1 year deal b/c of injury
3. the street deal was proposed by the rockies and omar said no according to reports
Okay… on the 5th starter, I understand. If they deal for Peavy (which is a looooooong shot), then they won’t sign lowe or ollie. Garland would be a possibility… I doubt they’d go for Penny.
I’m not sure I believe the report about Heilman and Feliciano for Street.