Comments on: Starting Pitcher: Get Your Offers Ready http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/04/starting-pitcher-get-your-offers-ready/ MetsBlog.com features the latest Mets rumors, player movement, and news circulating around the Internet, as well as Mets related insights and opinions by Matthew Cerrone and his team of guest bloggers. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:10:45 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Rome1224 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/04/starting-pitcher-get-your-offers-ready/#comment-397342 Rome1224 Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:20:36 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/04/starting-pitcher-get-your-offers-ready/#comment-397342 Just raise prices across the board and go after CC. Just raise prices across the board and go after CC.

]]> By: oleosmirf http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/04/starting-pitcher-get-your-offers-ready/#comment-397283 oleosmirf Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:03:36 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/04/starting-pitcher-get-your-offers-ready/#comment-397283 i would take that rotation if the Mets can bring in Manny, K-Rod and Street but i'd prefer Penny over Wolf. Reyes Beltran Manny Delgado Wright Church Murphy (2B) Schneider Fatstro Daryle Ward Eckstein Tatis Chavez Santana Pelfrey Garland Penny Maine Figueroa/Stokes Sanchez Feliciano Smith Cordero Street Rodriguez I know it would cost the Mets a bit more than they planned but after 2 years of not making the playoffs we gotta spend more that 40 mil especially with this talent available. I don't know if both Penny and Garland can be had but if not Pedro as the 5th starter i can live with b/c Pedro is the man. and most important...no top prospects would be traded which is so much more important than money i would take that rotation if the Mets can bring in Manny, K-Rod and Street but i’d prefer Penny over Wolf.

Reyes
Beltran
Manny
Delgado
Wright
Church
Murphy (2B)
Schneider

Fatstro
Daryle Ward
Eckstein
Tatis
Chavez

Santana
Pelfrey
Garland
Penny
Maine

Figueroa/Stokes
Sanchez
Feliciano
Smith
Cordero
Street
Rodriguez

I know it would cost the Mets a bit more than they planned but after 2 years of not making the playoffs we gotta spend more that 40 mil especially with this talent available. I don’t know if both Penny and Garland can be had but if not Pedro as the 5th starter i can live with b/c Pedro is the man.

and most important…no top prospects would be traded which is so much more important than money

]]> By: zen http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/04/starting-pitcher-get-your-offers-ready/#comment-397247 zen Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:07:01 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/04/starting-pitcher-get-your-offers-ready/#comment-397247 any gm that gives burnett 4 or 5 years needs to have their head examined any gm that gives burnett 4 or 5 years needs to have their head examined

]]> By: Snort-It-Like-Keith http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/04/starting-pitcher-get-your-offers-ready/#comment-397246 Snort-It-Like-Keith Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:04:51 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/04/starting-pitcher-get-your-offers-ready/#comment-397246 How do you know they are not in the mix? Just because it has not been reported? Just because the Phillies offered Lowe a contract that means nothing. What you think Lowe is going to sign tomorrow? You don’t think he is going to wait for offers from the Yanks and Sox’s? Lowe won’t be signing a contract any time so just relax. What is wrong with on some of these free agents the Mets wait and see what they are offered first and counter offer if they wish to? I mean I swear calm down. How do you know they are not in the mix? Just because it has not been reported? Just because the Phillies offered Lowe a contract that means nothing. What you think Lowe is going to sign tomorrow? You don’t think he is going to wait for offers from the Yanks and Sox’s? Lowe won’t be signing a contract any time so just relax. What is wrong with on some of these free agents the Mets wait and see what they are offered first and counter offer if they wish to? I mean I swear calm down.

]]> By: stickguy http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/04/starting-pitcher-get-your-offers-ready/#comment-397241 stickguy Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:38:52 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/04/starting-pitcher-get-your-offers-ready/#comment-397241 Garland is serviceable, if the contract is cheap (and short) enough. But, I want him (if he arrives) to be the last man in the rotation. That is, get someone better too, and let Neise season inthe minors for another year. vazquez would have been a good ST option. Sheets would be real nice. Or even Wolf. Would he do 2 years plus an option? Santana/pelfrey/maine/Garland/Wolf doesn't look too shabby. it could give some innings too. Neise (then Holt) waiting in the wings for emergencies. Now, plug in Sheets instead of Garland and it looks even better! Garland is serviceable, if the contract is cheap (and short) enough. But, I want him (if he arrives) to be the last man in the rotation.

That is, get someone better too, and let Neise season inthe minors for another year.

vazquez would have been a good ST option.

Sheets would be real nice.

Or even Wolf. Would he do 2 years plus an option?

Santana/pelfrey/maine/Garland/Wolf doesn’t look too shabby. it could give some innings too. Neise (then Holt) waiting in the wings for emergencies.

Now, plug in Sheets instead of Garland and it looks even better!

]]> By: joeinorlando http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/04/starting-pitcher-get-your-offers-ready/#comment-397239 joeinorlando Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:33:42 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/04/starting-pitcher-get-your-offers-ready/#comment-397239 by the time sheets gets hurt... hopefully niese will be ready... I know Lowe seems solid, but something bout him worries me by the time sheets gets hurt… hopefully niese will be ready… I know Lowe seems solid, but something bout him worries me

]]> By: harrychiti http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/04/starting-pitcher-get-your-offers-ready/#comment-397236 harrychiti Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:28:00 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/04/starting-pitcher-get-your-offers-ready/#comment-397236 I completely agree with you. If the find a 2 (or 3, depending how high you are on Pelf), then Maine slots at four and you have many more options at 5. What if they can't get a true 2? Do you gamble on Ollie? The thing with Ollie is are you willing to take on an average pitcher (ok, i know that's debatable) whose range of starts is far wider than a comparable pitcher--say Wolf--whose going to give you more consistency start to start. Ollie will throw out complete game shutout against a lefthanded lineup, then pitch 2 and 2/3 with 3er (but 7 runs total b/c of the error he made out of fear/frustration) walking every righty he faced, whereas Wolf will give you 2 consecutive starts of 6 innings, 3 runs in one, 4 in the other. I don't know which I'd rather have over the course of the season-- I guess whichever is cheaper. In the playoffs though, I can't say I'd feel comfortable with a guy who you know is borderline for a quality start. Of course, he probably wouldn't be pitching if you are a 1-3 of any worth. I completely agree with you. If the find a 2 (or 3, depending how high you are on Pelf), then Maine slots at four and you have many more options at 5. What if they can’t get a true 2? Do you gamble on Ollie?

The thing with Ollie is are you willing to take on an average pitcher (ok, i know that’s debatable) whose range of starts is far wider than a comparable pitcher–say Wolf–whose going to give you more consistency start to start. Ollie will throw out complete game shutout against a lefthanded lineup, then pitch 2 and 2/3 with 3er (but 7 runs total b/c of the error he made out of fear/frustration) walking every righty he faced, whereas Wolf will give you 2 consecutive starts of 6 innings, 3 runs in one, 4 in the other.

I don’t know which I’d rather have over the course of the season– I guess whichever is cheaper. In the playoffs though, I can’t say I’d feel comfortable with a guy who you know is borderline for a quality start. Of course, he probably wouldn’t be pitching if you are a 1-3 of any worth.

]]> By: vic79 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/04/starting-pitcher-get-your-offers-ready/#comment-397235 vic79 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:27:05 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/04/starting-pitcher-get-your-offers-ready/#comment-397235 I like Garland as the FA Starter signed..........I really think they just need innings pitched and a work horse...........they have the stuff with Santana and Pelffrey then add Maine, Garland, Niese and this a pretty good and relatively young staff Of course the pen is the most important thing.........I could see alot of deals to revamp it.................I think Heilman, Scho, Sanchez have some value and other teams would be willing to make moves for them......change of scenery I would LOVE Lowe but I think the Mets are spending their cash on K-Rod and maybe a Biemel..................Hopefully the Rockies will take Heilman,Scho for Street to setup I like Garland as the FA Starter signed……….I really think they just need innings pitched and a work horse………..they have the stuff with Santana and Pelffrey then add Maine, Garland, Niese and this a pretty good and relatively young staff

Of course the pen is the most important thing………I could see alot of deals to revamp it……………..I think Heilman, Scho, Sanchez have some value and other teams would be willing to make moves for them……change of scenery

I would LOVE Lowe but I think the Mets are spending their cash on K-Rod and maybe a Biemel………………Hopefully the Rockies will take Heilman,Scho for Street to setup

]]> By: HOFMets57 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/04/starting-pitcher-get-your-offers-ready/#comment-397234 HOFMets57 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:25:52 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/04/starting-pitcher-get-your-offers-ready/#comment-397234 Cain for Prince Fielder. Cain for Prince Fielder.

]]> By: atrain311 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/04/starting-pitcher-get-your-offers-ready/#comment-397226 atrain311 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:16:28 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/04/starting-pitcher-get-your-offers-ready/#comment-397226 I'm also wondering if some of those hits he gives up would be vacuumed up by a pretty good Mets' defense. I’m also wondering if some of those hits he gives up would be vacuumed up by a pretty good Mets’ defense.

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