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In an on-air report for WFAN, SI.com’s Jon Heyman said the Yankees are now targeting both Derek Lowe and A.J. Burnett.
Heyman estimates the Yankees will offer Lowe a four-year, $68 million deal.
If the Yankees cannot sign Burnett, they will move on to Ben Sheets, on a two-year deal, and will likely pursue free-agent Andy Pettitte as well.
…so, the Yankees could be looking at a rotation of CC Sabathia, Chien Ming Wang, A.J. Burnett or Ben Sheets, Derek Lowe and either Andy Pettitte or Joba Chamberlain…almighty then…
According to Heyman, ‘The Phillies are still in the mix for Lowe,’ but he is ‘not an option for the Mets.’
Speaking of starting pitchers…
According to the East Valley Tribune, the Brewers, Rangers and Cubs are all interested in free-agent pitcher Randy Johnson, as are the Rangers, said Nolan Ryan to MLB.com.
Umm…I know we need a couple of guys in the pen, but maybe we can take a shot at one of these starters before they are all wearing pinstripes ???
Man, are they trying to buy a championship or what…does this mean that they have fully given up on hughes and kennedy? the two pitchers they deemed UNTOUCHABLE
wow talk about throwing money around.
steinbrenner love winning.
wilpons love the appearance that they care about winning.
The yankees help plea to ny they need 200 million to finish the stadium. Give me a break! They are going to clean house on the free agent market. Sore losers maybe?
So which one of those pitchers Zen would you like to match the contract on? Besides Sheets I see nothing there I would touch at all.
So zen, you would sign Sabathia, Lowe and Burnett???
thereal: don’t pretend like what i said isn’t true.
steinbrenners are men among boys (wilpons)
“steinbrenner love winning.”
Money does not equal wins.
I don’t buy it. This reeks of a Yankee smokescreen. So far they’ve been linked to everyone on the market. Sure they’re rich but they’re not that rich. 160 to CC, 68 to Lowe and likely 75+ to Burnett, on top of A-rod and Jeter’s salary. That’s over 104 million for 5 players. All that on the heels of Hank’s proclaimed desire to get Manny at 25-30/yr.
Not likely at all.
sylar: sabathia, hell yes. lowe, yes, burnett, no way.
Ok, here is my final laugher trade of the day.
Delgado, Heilman and Church for
Sonnanstine and Crawford.
Then go out and sign Tex.
LOL.
thereal,
where do i sign?
“Money does not equal wins.”
yeah, right.
red sox and yankees have won 6 of the last 9 world series.
AGain Zen so you would go 6/150 for CC? 4/70 for Lowe? How about 5/90 for Burnett?
The only one out of that group that would interest me at those prices is Sheets.
The Wilpons are not cheap they are just sane.
zen are you serious? 6 out of 9?
mor elike 3 out of 8, and the red sox have all 3
Just go get Sheets for 2 yrs………….if not Garland but get one of those 2 to replace Perez
He can’t count. Maybe he means they have been in 6/9?
Hankie and King George are a disgrace to baseball. I know many Mets fans disagree with me on this, but it’s an abomination what they’re doing and I’m glad I’m not a Yankees fan.
I hope Lowe gets bombed by the Red Sox and CC puts on 50 lbs in the coming year. I hope this spend-till-you-win philosophy blows up big time in the Yankees’ faces. They are disgusting.
Heyman said Ollie is looking for 5 years, 70 million.
The Yankees haven’t won a WS in 8 years with by far the highest payroll in baseball
Throwing money at anything that moves really isn’t that smart.
I think they will get Lowe , Burnett will be a brave, and we will bring back Ollie and Pedro…sad
sorry 2 not 3
Sheets and Garland would be fantastic.
6 of 9? oops. 6 in 12 that is with big market teams like the la angels and chicago white sox winning too
PLEASE no Pedro and If Perez is wanting 5/70 he can WALK away as that is what is good at anyway.
If they’re not going to spend money on Tex then I would go 70/4 for Lowe. They can afford it with the stadium money and the increase in ticket prices, and it’s really not much of an overpay. And we’re doing to need a real #2 like him if we want to compete. Why spend the money on K-rod and then half a-s-s the rest of the team, we’ll just end up in the same place we were last year.
maybe i can give you 6 out of 11 or 7 out of 13…….but 6 out of 9?
thereal:
yes on sabathia. the mets don’t need lowe too.
definately no on burnett
right, but when the yankees were winning all those rings, they had great team players, not high pricey FA.
RIvera, Jeter, O’niel, MArtinez
Not Damon, AROD, Abreu, GIambi
I doubt the rays would do that thereal. Crawford is a lot more valuable than people realize because of his insane defense. Not to mention there’s reason to expect his offense to bounce back.
ummmm ya they can spend that much money…they lost over 80 million off a payroll that was over 200million…and do it year by year because that is how the teams look at it….now i know our guys ( fred and jeff coupon) wont go that crazy…but i wish they would try something…maybe im just being inpatient…lets hope so…and ny mets fan….money might no guarantee winning…but it put them in the playoffs….what 13/14 years in a row….maybe out guys should look at that
red sox and yankees have won 6 of the last 9 world series.
Huh? By my count that’s just 3 out of the last 9. Money definitely does make a difference, though, in your chances for winning, but of course it’s no guarantee.
let them have both lowe and burnett……so much for the “youth” movement.
the yanks were #1 in payroll from 1996-2000
jhjhhjhjhj,
whats the point in going to the playoffs and not winnig anything? Come the end of october, what seperates you from the other 29 teams who did not win the series?
We take a gamble and sign Sheets short term. Get ourselves a capable pitcher who can fill-in for him in case he misses a start or is hurt for an extended period of time. And if Sheets proves healthy, his fill-in takes the 5th spot in the rotation.
would it really surprise anyone here to learn that zen was actually hank?
Angles won 100 games and lost in the 1st round, would you call that a success? Does any met fan like what happened in 06? So what ff you make the playoffs.
Don’t forget the PEDs. The Yankee teams that won 4 rings under Torre were heavily drugged.
So, yeah, money + PEDs = winning combo.
You build a team to win a world series. Not just simply to make the playoffs.
Freeaaron, thats a whole diff ballgame lol
Well, isn’t true the Yankees had $90 million coming off the books? They giant books to begin with, but they obviously don’t feel the need to save any of that money. 23 for CC, 18 Lowe, prolly close to 18 for Burnett, thats 59 mil right there. Not sure what Swisher makes. They still need a good CF, a healthy C, they do have some young guys (Austin Jackson) who is gonna be a beast in CF one day, and they keep Hughes and Kennedy for insurance or trade bait.
Wow.
NYMEts, they no longer have Giambi and Abreu
With the yanks concentrating on burnett, and lowe, perhaps we can sweep sheets for a steal. I agree that money does not buy championships, but at least by putting the money on the table they show that they want to win. I think thats all fans want. Why can’t we have both a lot of money invested and sound judgement?
I’m pretty sure you have to make the play-offs to win a world series, pretty sure.
And I’m pretty sure having a good pitching staff goes a long way towards getting into the play-offs.
Cmon wilpons you chumps. Do something. Although, I’d be ok with Sheets on 2 years 22 million.
The way I see it is:
Burnett- Braves
Lowe- Yankees
That leaves Sheets and Perez. The Mets need to sign one of those pitchers. I do see Perez going to the Cardinals, but not if the Mets can convice Ollie to come back.
Santana
Sheets
Maine
Pelfrey
Garland/Niese
no met fan has any right to criticize the yankees. The yankees have just as many playoff appearences in this millenium as the Mets do in their history.
the yankees might not have won a world series since 2000 but they have been pretty damn close.
its not how much you spend its who you spend it on. spending a fortune on star players is great but when you spend it on mediocre players (Pavano, Farnsworth) or guys past their prime (Brown, Big Unit) then you have a problem…
Uh, yeah, but the Yankees with PEDs + $$$ were playing a whole different ballgame!
I say sign Perez and Sheets ..trade for Street and sig Cruz or Eddy G. end of story the offense could use an upgrade but if Ibanez is it then we will survivw with what we have ..pitching pitching pitching!!!!
Santana
Sheets
Ollie
Maine
Pelfrey
Pretty sick!
i’m going to send the wilpons the 2008 phillies world series video in case they care.
zen, if you really think what the Steinbrenners are doing is the “right thing”, then please go root for the Yankees
Lets see, yea, Sabathia is a nice player to have but at that money…I’ll take Johan, oh yea we have him! Lowe? not worth the money or years, burnett? not worth the money or years….
starz,
thats my point, when they had them they did not win anything.
Let the yankees over pay for Lowe and Burnett. I really don’t like either of them, especially at the level they are looking at.
Lowe isn’t a 15+ million dollar pitcher. Burnett has 15+ million dollar stuff, but can’t stay on the field to make enough starts to be worth it.
Let the yankees keep signing all these guys.
CC, Wang, Joba, Lowe, Burnett…we’ll see what happens, they still need to sign the latter 2…but thats nasty.
I would sign Manny too…a perfect DH…and that would be a scary lineup.
Hey, if you’re spending like the Yankees and cheating with PEDs heavily, YOU BETTER at least make the playoffs.
There’s nothing great to be proud of with the Yankees of the last 15 years — not after the Mitchell report.
If the Wilpons are afraid to spend money at least lower the ticket prices! How can they cut payroll when they jack up ticket prices and get 20 million a year from Citi (the tax payers) group…. It is time for ownership to be held accountable if we don’t improve the rotation and lineup…. Make Tex a Met!
So zen, you think what the Yankees are doing is reasonable and sane??
‘no met fan has any right to criticize the yankees. The yankees have just as many playoff appearences in this millenium as the Mets do in their history”
Yankees have been around 3 times longer than the Mets, whats your point?
TRS, who do you suggest the Mets bring in? I know you love Marquis, but at 10 mil?? Mets can do way better than Marquis at 10 mil in a FA market, after all he’ll be a #4 if at best. Marquis at cheaper price? sure why not. But at 10 mil, he isn’t worth it.
And whoever is saying sign Sheets for 2 years, please be realistic. There are many teams that would sign Sheets for 3+ years at this point. Why would he sign with the Mets for 2 year?
If Ollie demands 5/70, that’s too much and I would look else where or sign him to a shorter deal like 3/37.
Look, Omar can get very creative when it comes to #5 spot. He just needs to get #2-3 like Sheets. I say get Sheets at 4/55 something like that.
mrose: i was watching the mets when we had a real owner (doubleday). i’m not moving to the yanks because wilpons aren’t even close to the steinbrenners in terms of love of winning.
Some good news on the Tex 4Mets front. Well, not really new news but good stuff anyway.
So what has Francessa said about Sabbathia? is all like, “i knew he would sign with the yankees, everyone wants to be a yankee, the pride, yadda yadda yadda yadda”
zen, while you’re at it, send that video to Cashman and Hankie too. They spent a helluva lot more money than the Mets and didn’t get any further. Maybe they can learn something about putting together a winning team. It’s not all about money.
kistics, marquis will only ocst 6 mill, the cubs will eat 4 mill
AHH Man the yankees are goona be scary next year…
Why.
The wilpons will spend the money. they are just letting the Baseball People, make the best baseball moves.
Lowe, isn’t worth the money. Burnett isn’t worth the money.
Let them go. Spend the money on Teixeria for that much. 3 million more and you get a perennial all-star who wants to be on the east coast.
sylar:
yes. sabathia is worth every penny. lowe is getting too much, but is solid. burnett is the only mistake and the yanks are going to luck out becasue he’s going to the braves then the yanks will get sheets for two years.
i’d never sign burnett
will they even pretend to be ashamed of having a rotation getting paid more than the entire payroll of all but a couple of teams?
Oh well. It will be even more fun when they all start stinking or breaking down!
Hope for Lowe to revert and becmoe a basket case, petite to continue to be mediocre, burnett to hit the DL, Sabathia to be the pre-mill version, etc.
MLB trade rumors said tex is preferring the east coast, which means trouble for the angels….so maybe the mets can come in a give say an 8 year deal and hope for the best…doesn’t hurt.
Everyone said the Tigers were going to be scary last year. What happened to them?
Casestreet? there is news on the tex for mets front?
The yankees spent poorly early this decade…now they on paper, are spending a lot of money for good pitching, but there is alot of risk with the pitching they are getting, so we will see how it plays out. Over the next 5 years, they might get some good performances, but I don’t think they’ll get 5 years worth.
mrose: i was watching the mets when we had a real owner (doubleday). i’m not moving to the yanks because wilpons aren’t even close to the steinbrenners in terms of love of winning.
- you are the most illogical fan on here, does it make you special that you were watching when doubleday owned them? MANY of us were, and the fact that because they aren’t throwing away money on free agents who may or may not stay healthy, or may be 40 when their contracts are over is the dumbest argument of saying they don’t care about winning. At least try to bring a real argument.
it appears the yankees are dangerously close to realizing that if they sign every singal free agent on the market, it drastically improves their chances of winning.
so is derek lowe not an option anymore as it suggest in the post. besides lowe i havent heard the mets with any other big name pitcher then ollie (if u want to call him that). do we need to sign ollie to ensure we have a “quality” 3/4 starter cause the way it sounds it may be our only choice
NYMETS, if that’s true Marquis makes sense. But to my undestanding, Cubs are trying to clear cap space for Peavy and their new potential owners
The tigers had no pitching…Verlander started horrible, Bonderman was pitching injured, and they had NO bullpen…thats it right there. not to mention their offense was too streaky.
I absolutely don’t want to waste money like the Yankees do. But paying for a guy like Tex or paying for a guy like Lowe, or at the very least paying for a guy like Sheets and possibly taking a flyer on a guy like Penny would not be anything like what the Yankees do. Not at least trying with one of them and going into the season with a guy like Garland or Marquis as our 4 and 5 pitchers, likely for 10-12 million themselves and then wasting a draft pick to bring in Ibanez just makes no sense.
PEOPLE!!~~ TEX IS NOT COMING TO THE METS!! PERIOD!!!
Stop with Tex talk already!
Well by signing all the available Free Agents you decrease other teams ability to improve themselves through F.A. and if they resort to trades, they weaken themselves somewhere.
The Tigers problem was they way overvalued the talent they had. There was no way most of those guys were going to repeat the seasons they had had and they were banking on that in order to repeat.
The Yankees can have Burnett and Lowe. Injury-prone and old– haven’t we had enough of that?
Let’s be smart and continue to get younger, faster and grittier. I kinda like some of the stuff that’s been rumored with us getting Sonastine from the Rays and possibly Byrne from the D’Backs. Teams win championships, not hired guns.
we’re just gona resign ollie….should def do that and go get ben sheets like NOW
and in terms of the pen, i’ll take matt capps over street if it comes to that..would rather have street, but capps is good too
So if we’re not talking about Tex, or Lowe, or Sheets. Then who should we being talking about. The fact that the mets have shown limited to no interest in any of them makes zero sense. We have the money, we have the need. Just bringing in K-rod and not doing anything to upgrade anywhere else, in fact possibly downgrading the rotation from what it was last year, is going to do nothing for the team.
mrose:
the proof is in the pudding. the mets and cubs are the only big market team that hasn’t won a world series in more than 2 decades.
it’s not just about money. the wilpons hire the wrong people. over and over. all that money they spend and little success
other big markets teams actually win with their spending occasionally: last 20 years: yanks 4, red sox 2, angels 1, dodgers 1, white sox 1, philly 1
THE METS HAVE NO INTREST IN TEX. SO JUST STOP TAKING ABOUIT HIM CAUSE IT IS NOT HAPPENING!!
if the mets can’t sign Lowe or Sheets it does not make any sense to try to force a guy like Garland or Wolf to be better then they are and be our #2 starter especially on a multi-year deal.
at this point we might as well hope Ollie accepts arbitration as 1 more year of Perez wouldnt be so bad…
The Dodgers won it in ‘88, 2 years after ‘86, so that really doesn’t count.
And zen, those teams won with good trades and drafts mostly, it had little to do with money.
“other big markets teams actually win with their spending occasionally: last 20 years: yanks 4, red sox 2, angels 1, dodgers 1, white sox 1, philly 1″
is that a joke??? why stop at 20 years? at a few more and you add the METS to that list, and you know what? prior to this year, the Phillies had not won in 27 years…good lord, for being someone who “lived through” the doubleday years, you would think you would have better arguments than a 6 year old.
sylar:
the wilpons are still responsible for hiring gm’s that make bad trades and can’t draft well for 2 decades.
it’s not just money, but it plays a big factor.
i agree with you gina it does seem like the starting rotation will be downgraded from last year even if we do sign ollie. its still early and theres some possibilities in trades but i think we have to settle the big spots we need to upgrade s.p setup and a righthanded bat. the yankees are making it impossible for other teams to upgrade via free agency
I understand that the Mets need to improve, but IF the Mets had any interest in Burnett, Lowe or Tex for that matter, we would be hearing about them.
Lowe, as we all know are in talks with Phillies and the Yanks. Omar is looking to get more creative.
Sure, I would LOVE to see Tex and Lowe and Burnett all in Mets uniform next year. But the reality is that Wilpons are not opening up their wallets like the Yanks. Plus, the reason why Yanks are spending and trying to get all these FAs is they have 80 mil coming off the books. Mets have 30 maybe? Omar knows that he can’t outbid Yanks with money, so he’s being creative.
Yea Omar has failed already…wtf? off-season moves have just begun…
do you know when we acquired Johan last year? not in november or december or even most of January.
Just found this interesting tidbit:
John Smoltz wants to pitch for a team that could take him to the World Series. He hopes that’s Atlanta, but Smoltz is considering Boston, the New York Mets, and his hometown Detroit Tigers as possible destinations according to a major league source.
I really think next biggest need is at SP. Mets need a solid #2 pitcher. Lowe and Burnett are pretty much out of Omar’s picture, but I really wonder what Sheets situation is like.
He may come cheaper than Burnett or Lowe since he is injury prone. I’d say 3/37-40 with 4th year vesting option can do it.
kistics,
TEX, TEX, TEX
100% for signing smoltz.
best pitcher on the market for 2009 (and only 2009)
kistics
what happens when Lowe goes to Boston, Sheets goes to let’s say the Yankees and Burnett goes to the Braves.
do the mets overpay for a mediocre starter like Garland or Wolf or do they make smart decisions and sign guys like Penny, Pedro, Pettitte, Mulder etc on a 1 year deal
Do they realize Derek Lowe is 35, has started 255 games in his career and has a record of 126-107. How is that worth 17 million per?
Oleo,
I agree with you. If Mets can’t sign Sheets, I’d def go with Penny, Pedro route. Solid SP will always come around via trades or FA signing. So wasting money on Garlnad or Wolf would be a bad idea
Sign smoltz??? Thats fine for 2009, but what happens after? then we again need another starter…go for penny, pettitte, or even perez.
also, If i want to talk about tex I will.
Penny? Has he ever won a game at Shea?
kisitcs
personally im hoping Perez accepts arbitration and the mets have him for just 1 more year. add Pedro or Penny to mix and thats a decent rotation. not ideal but with a very good bullpen and an improved bullpen it should be fine…
mrose:
what arguments have you made? no world series wins in 22 years for the 2nd richest team in baseball. how long does it take to draft well and develop talent.
keep it up with the ad hominem attack. typical of your kind.
Ben Sheets on a 2 year deal? I’d do that. Any second.
Err not 156 days, I read that wrong, he does have a 1 year, but that’s it.
I personally don’t want anything to do with Pedro. I love him for what he helped this franchise become again. With that being said he’s finished. Garland is not a bad pitcher. He gives you the innings and keeps you in games. But I would feel more comfortable with him being in competition with Niese for the 5th spot than I would with him manning the number 3 or 4 spot. I personally want ollie back. Even for 5 years hes the youngest free agent starter out there. And if you look at the deals that carlos silva got, or what we would pay for Garland why not spend the extra and keep ollie. I cant help but get angry when I reports that the Mets aren’t willing to increase payroll, especially with Citi Field opening.