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Steve Phillips of ESPN.com reports the contract talks between free-agent LHP Brian Fuentes and the Cardinals have stalled.
According to Phillips, two other teams have become interested in signing Fuentes, but it was unclear who they are.
One of the two other teams interested may be the Nationals, as Dave Sheinin of Washington Post reports.
Fuentes’ agent told Sheinin the Nationals have expressed interest in the 33-year-old left-hand reliever, but seemed focused on signing a hitter before addressing their bullpen needs.
Sheinin also reports the Nationals have expressed interest in RHP Juan Cruz.
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No, no, no, Nats. WE need Cruz, not YOU. Although I’d like to see him go there if he doesn’t come here.
Looks like Matt needs his grammar checked too lol.
NYMETSFAN718:
LOL!! careful man,around here folks is stiffy!!!
I’ll be stiffy. If you are referring to grammar in this post, it was not posted by Matt. Therefore, he would not need his grammar checked too.
For someone who is a stickler for grammar, you lose credibility when you use lol at the end of a sentence.
Offer Fuentes 3 years at 7mill/year. Let him be a setup man for the Mets. Money well spent. Pitching, pitching, pitching…..Fuentes, Putz, K-Rod. WOW.
LGM:
why not trade for huston street while we at it!! lol
Cruz isn’t worth giving up another draft pick.
man imagine the mets went the fuentes root and this putz thing didnt happen.
im not a stickler for grammar, i really dont care for it, if i cant read your post i move on.
Matt said
“but seemed inclined to sign a hitter befoe addressing their bullpen needs.”
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is fraiday man, can’t we all get along and enjoy the weekend?
not everybody is perfect and i’m sure most of us are working and posting at the same time.. RELAX guys!!
alex242
Excellent point. Why not?? The Mets have the players to make that trade. I don’t know what they’re waiting on.
LGM:
is too much players traded.. don’t think if omar would like that idea..
So i guess the Nats are trying to get better
Does anyone have an idea of how much money we have left in the tank to spend this winter after the moves that have taken place?
what about brad penny?
he’s not that old, won’t cost any picks/players, coming off a bad season, could be cheaper
as far as 5th guy in the rotation goes, he could be better than garland, wolf, or marquis
NYMETSFAN718 says:
December 12th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
im not a stickler for grammar, i really dont care for it, if i cant read your post i move on.
Matt said
“but seemed inclined to sign a hitter befoe addressing their bullpen needs.”
Actually, Mike Nichols said it.
Seriously, the wilpons lost $300 million today. They’re not signing anyone else.
Yeah, Mel I was just thinking that. If we came out of the winter meetings with just Fuentes I would not be very optimistic.
Cruz is an interesting option. He’d give us another power righty out of the pen.
I think Beimel makes more sense now that we have 2 big righties at the end of the game. Getting a good lefty like Beimel will make our bullpen the best in the majors, no question about it.
if they were smart, they would use that loss as an impetus to invest more in the mets–who will make money regardless of the economy
How about this:
Trade Delgado to Tampa (they need a DH) for one of thier starters and sign TEX.
Get the trade done for Marquis
The 1:
anybody who’s up to get tex is my new friend!!!!
GET #25 to the mets!!!!
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Thank you, that was my point earlier. Now we can all get along.
he doesn’t even seem like he fits into the mets style at all
tex is better suited for the AL, imo
Deaner:
I think tex played just fine when he was a Brave.
what’s the mets style? (24)
but he played much better on the rangers and angels
what’s the mets style? (24)
not being an arrogant bible thumper
we’re not getting Tex people, eventually we’re going to have to give Wright and Reyes serious long term contracts, and Beltran’s contract also is back weighted I believe. Signing Tex to the monster 8-10 year deal it will take to sign him is not going to happen, sorry folks, its a pipe dream, but hey, keep kidding yourselves and have fun talking about it.
I agree we are not going to sign Tex. However, answer this question. Who plays 1B for the Mets in 2010? What about LF?
Please don’t say that Fmart and Murphy will take them because that is just as unrealistic to think that both of them will pan out and be ready for 2010.
Darkstar:
i may agree wit u and disagree.. nobody here expected putz after k-rod and omar went and got him.. we don’t know if he is secretively trying to trade delgado and drop a offer to tex right away.. with that said u may be right and we won’t get him..
Hey Deaner (15) I like the idea of Penny as our number 5 if he comes cheap.
Speaking of Grammar and Tex…
TEX NO MORE!!
The only problem with us signing Penny is that means we can’t hit against him.
But, that being said I am fine with him coming on as a #5.
Why does it bother so many people that some on here want Tex? It is 99% unlikely but still there is a chance. We have no idea what is going to unfold in this offseason. So until there is no chance then why not have some fun?
threal (30) how about Aubrey Huff? We can also pray to the yankees and the red sox to not resign Nady and Bay so that they can become free agents 2010 :)
It makes little sense for the organization to get Teixiera. He’s a great hitter, but our big contracts (Santana, Beltran, Wright, Reyes) are all backloaded.
Once Wagner and Delgado are off of the books next year, we can target a big time 1B or Corner Outfielder.
If we sign Teixiera now, we’d be done for the offseason. This team needs 2 SP and another RP more than it needs a big 1B.
Huff would be great but I see no real reason at this point for the O’s to deal him. They have plenty of room for him at DH, OF and 1B now.
TRS, as for LF in 2010, there are lots of good FAs in 2010. Vlad, Holliday, and Nady are some of them.
Rey you make contradicting points.
You say we don’t have the money but then say
“Once Wagner and Delgado are off of the books next year, we can target a big time 1B or Corner Outfielder.”
Delgado would be traded if we got Tex so that money does not count.
So at that point you are saying we should make our longterm plans on 10 million dollars extra this year?
Besides have you seen next year’s 1B market?
I DON’T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH GETTING TEX, THE PROBLEM IS, ITS A PIPE DREAM, jeese, why can’t you see that thereal? You can’t as if by me saying we’re not goin to get him, that i’m saying its a bad idea. NO. Signing Tex would be a coup and a wonderful additional. HOWEVER, it ain’t going to happen.
Kistics, my bad. Nady I am not overly impressed with. Guys like him will be in my opinion always around. I fully expect the Sox to resign Bay and I am not sure that Huff is anything more than a short term fix.
Next year’s 1B market is pretty bad. But you never know who might be available via trades. You’ve never thought Putz could be traded to the Mets.
I’d love to see Vlad come to the Mets. With the hispanic connection Omar has, but let’s not get too far ahead of ourselves here.
gammons said dunn would only require about $8 per year.
sign him to three years: left field in 2009 and then first for 2010 and 2011. or make it two years one year at each position
it’s cheap and then omar can just focus on starters.
i don’t love dunn, but if not him then it has to be manny and the wilpons won’t do that. either that or omar finds a gritty guy somewhere or a sparky speedster to go with reyes
Until he signs with another team there is always the posibilty, although like I said a 99% chance it won’t. But what were the percentages of us getting Santana? Putz and Krod? Better than 1% for sure but not a lock either.
What do you guy think of possibilty of getting Sheets? I would love to see him in queens next year, but I think there’s only a remote chance.
The answer is Manny. What else does he need to do to prove he can be a force for at least 2 to 4 more years?
I am not going to start the Dunn debate again, but at that price you would have to be an idiot not to be interested at all. Go get him and Rivera. That gives you a ton of flexibility. Trade Delgado for a #5 or trade Church for a pitcher……
As for Vlad, he will be old, expensive, and on the decline. Perfect fit. LOL.
thereal, Huff is a free agent after next year, when Delgado is leaving. and you forgot Jason Bay Kistics
Well, thereal, that’s our best FA target. Maybe Milwaukee would want to trade Fielder by then :o
I know he is a FA after next season. But even then he’s not as great as his numbers last season show. I would like to have him but neither he nor Nady are THAT special. Certainly not on the level with Manny or Tex or even Dunn in my opinion.
wait who are we talking about again thereal lol Bay?
I really do not think many people on here realize how much this team is in a serious win now mode. J.J. Putz is going to be with us for the next two seasons before he skips town to become a closer again elsewhere. The front office seems pretty adamant about keeping Carlos Delgado around, even during a time where Mark Texieria could have been a long term solution. In a few years, David Wright and Jose Reyes will get paid the big bucks. Add Mike Pelfrey to the list too, it is only a matter of time. How are those pay checks going to translate over to the other areas of concern facing this team?
That’s why I truly believe we must take our shot at a World Series now. Our window of opportunity is upon us. This is a matter of serious urgency and we need to take advantage of it. Manny Ramirez is the answer. He’ll take us to the promise land. Let’s go bring home a World Series title!
Fielder would not be worth what it took in a trade.
The best thing we could do this year is get Manny, Tex or Dunn and then hope that Murphy/Evans/Fmart takes a spot next season.
Sheets is great, when healthy…If he wasnt so injury prone, he probably would have been a lot higher on everyones lists right now…he would have been above Burnett, and not too far below cc….The health is probably the reason we havent heard his name mentioned at all in relation to the mets…If we went that route, we’d be taking a serious risk if he went down, and we do not have the depth to afford that…Hence why Lowe or Ollie are actually better choices…(although Lowe on a long term deal is crazy, the guys 36 already)
Schoeneweis was 2-6 with a 3.34 ERA in 73 games with one save, and left-hand hitters batted .178 against him.
did’nt realize he did so well……..but he still will go,hah
At this point I would have to agree. Our best bet to win in the next 2-3 years is to sign Manny. Longterm I love Tex but that’s a LONG contract.
Sign Manny now and go with Wolf and Marquis in the rotation. That would not cost that much for pitching. Maybe 13-15 million for those 2 both on short term contracts. Then next year hopefully Murphy takes Delgado’s spot and you have 12 million more to spend on a pitching replacement for Marquis if Niese did not work out.
Agreed, TRS86. It is time to go all in, my friend.
for 1st base, both Nick Evans and Murphy are possibilities…Evans is going to develop into a pretty powerful hitter, probably a 30 home run guy, and 1st is his natural position…Murphy whatever position he winds up playing long term (would still love it to be 2nd base) is going to be an ubelievable hitter, probably a #3…We just traded away Carp, who was the current minor league 1st baseman, so I would imagine that long term we already have that covered….Tex does not make sense….IF I could dream, then yes Manny definitely makes more sense, and would allow every other hitter in the lineup to hit better than they already do…The offense would be ridiculous, and it wasnt too shabby last year…
therealsince86:
With the way our budget stands right now, we don’t have much money left to spend. Giving Teixiera 8 years and 160 Million (likely what it would take if not more) just makes no sense for us.
The main need for this team is Starting Pitching. Our hitting is solid, and it’s not like 1B is one of our weakest spots. If there are any FA guys we should be looking at, it’s Hudson or Dunn.
Is it worth sacrificing the rest of our team for an upgrade at 1B?
Omar should really look at Ben Sheets. Lowe’s splits are alarming to say the least, as he is simply a product of pitching for the best team in an awful division. Burnett is average, and Omar should be crucified if he considers him. Garland is alright, solid 4 starter.
With our remaining money, we should sign Sheets, trade for Marquis, and sign either Beimel or Ohman. Getting a consistent 180+ inning pitcher in Marquis allows us to run the risk of Sheets only starting 20-25 games. Sheets has the most consistent splits of everyone over the last few years, and when he’s healthy, there are only a handful of pitchers better than him.
The offense is our last priority as of now, although I’d love to see Omar move Castillo and pick up Hudson, then look at Dunn for LF (1B after 09).
And for those who say we can’t afford Manny and those pitchers, why would Manny not backload his 2009 contract to have a more competitive team? Pay him 12 million for 2009 and 25 for 2010 and 2011. All that does is take Delgado’s money from this year and give it to Manny next year.
Therefore, getting Manny, Wolf and Marquis would only cost you around 25 million for next season which is well within reach.
well, i think we have to go for Manny if we’re in win now mode. Maybe Omar is begging the Wilpons to let him go after him right now.
THIS JUST IN
WILPONS SWINDLED OUT OF UP TO 300 MILLION DOLLARS BY MADOFF PONZI SCHEME
You lost me with wanting Hudson. He wants 4/48 and is just not that good.
Completely forgot Manny in that post.
I would absolutely give Manny a 2/50 or 3/65 contract. He would make our offense much more consistent.
Reyes
Beltran
Wright
Manny
Delgado
Murphy
Castillo
Schneider
Hell of a lineup.
I was under the impression that Hudson was looking for a 4/36 type deal.
Nevermind on him then, not worth it.
Manny is the answer everybody along with cost effective pitching.
I kind of agree with reyordonez4life….Gotta take care of at least one, most likely 2 sp before anything else is done…1st base is not gonna happen…Left field would probably next after pitching….And god, if by some miracle Omar could dump Castillo, then I believe he would go for hudson, but unfortunately, I dont see that happening, no way, no how…I think we are stuck with Luis, and can all just pray that he finds the happy medium between his old all star self, and his totally useless 08 self….Half of his old self would be great!!!
Agree about Manny but I would go with a different lineup. Especially considering you have no RF as there is no way we could have Murphy in RF and Manny in LF.
Also you would have to split up your LH a little.
Yeah, that was really just a quickly thrown together lineup. It’d probably look more like:
Reyes
Murphy
Wright
Beltran
Manny
Delgado
Castillo
Schneider
TRS:
Manny wouldn’t backload his contract to be on a winning team simply because he doesn’t care that much about winning. That is 100% obvious by getting tossed out of boston. A team that had just won 2 World Series. Wasn’t like he was making 5 mil there, he was making 20 mil a season.
He also stated he doesn’t want to play anywhere where the team is highly scrutinized. Like the NY boston areas are.
You can almost forget about Manny in NY.
lol you guys forgot about Church
Mark: i thought he said he wanted to play for the yankees to get “revenge” against Boston :o
If Manny’s market is as small as it supposedly is, I’d bet he jumps at any decent team who offers him 3/60.
PLEASE NO HUDSON. Really guys look at his numbers then look at a guy like Mark Lorretta’s numbers. Hudson’s is better but are they 10+ million better?
And obviously we need pitching but it looks like we may be shut out in this market without overpaying. So why not go get Manny and then get pitchers on the cheap this year. Then we can come back with the 12 million from Delgado and 10 million from Wagner next year and get a real SP if we need to.
I really think Omar should concentrate his efforts in SPs, which he is doing now.
Offense should get better, but core pieces are there. I think the Mets need more solid #6, 7, and 8 hitters. Guys like Rivera maybe a good fit there.
I guarantee you that if the Mets sign Manny, and miss out on all the decent starters, they will not make the playoffs next year. A rotation of Santana, Pelfrey, Maine, Wolf, and Marquis simply would not do it. At the very least, we need OP or Sheets penciled in the 3 spot.
Ideally, we’d sign Sheets, Garland, and a reliever. If we miss out on Sheets, go for Manny, Garland, and someone like Ohman, then trade for Marquis.
The problem is Kistics, it appears as though he may be shut out of any decent SP this season. So upgrade the offense now and see what happens with lesser SP later.
Rey, are you serious? Come on. That roation would be hands down better than Phillies this year or last year.
TRS86, you think Manny and Ollie is possible?
In fact that roation might be better than the one we had last year. Especially considering the revolving door of #5.
Possible? for Manny and Ollie? Sure? Do I want it? Not unless Ollie is costing something like 3/36. He is overrated and will cost us 2 picks. I would rather have Garland/Wolf and Marquis for short term than to have Ollie 4/60 and lose 2 picks.
Good point TRS. I really wish thar Omar would be more competitive with Sheets or Lowe (Once his price comes down).
I wouldn’t mind Omar taking a chance on risky guys either like Prior or Penny to 1 year term with incentives.
All this on top of what Omar is working right now, which are mediocre #5 innings eaters.
Guys, will have to continue this later. Gotta go coach some basketball. Later.
I heard that 3/37 might actually be what Ollie’s market comes down to. If so, I’d take him in a heartbeat.
Ollie at 3/37 would be good. But Boras is his agent and there’s lot of teams interested in Ollie at this point.
Teams like Cincy, Mil, and Yanks. So his price will be more than 3/37. Hopefully not.
Should we go after burell i mean hes cheaper then manny bats R and is a LF ?
ollie at 3-37 i’d take that only if Lowe and Sheets were gone
Wolf is straight up awful. He’s injured even more than Sheets. Hasn’t pitched 200 innings since 2003. In 8 seasons, Garland has never thrown under 190 innings in a season. If you get Wolf, you have no idea what you’ll get from him. With Garland, it’s likely 15-10 4.50 ERA with 200+ innings.
I love the idea of Manny in the Mets lineup, but we’re screwed if Wolf is anywhere near our rotation next year.
OP won’t get 15 a year. I know Boras wants 5/75, but he’ll probably end up getting 3/39, which is a solid contract.
I’d have no problem going into the season with Santana, Pelfrey, OP, Garland, and Niese/Marquis as our rotation.
how do we lose 2 picks if we sign Ollie? The picks go to the team that lost the free agent that you sign, therefore, we’re forfeiting them to ourselves… no lost picks…
Rey, where’s Maine?
The only other known competitor against us for Ollie is St. Louis. I could see the Yankees getting involved though.
Burrell is interesting. If he can come here and hit 260-25-90, while putting up an OPS over 800, he’d be great behind Delgado.
Oh wow, I did forget Maine. Not a big Maine fan in general, but I guess it’d look something like:
Santana
Pelfrey
OP
Garland
Maine
Extremely good rotation.
darkstar
you lose 2 picks that you would have gotten if he had signed elsewhere
Why are people still talking about signing Manny or Lowe?
The Wilpons may have just lost 300 million dollars in the Madoff ponzi scheme.
This team is doomed for years if it’s that much.
Manny is never happening. Not with ownership. We’ve got to come to terms with that, no matter how good he would be in the Mets lineup.
Santana
Lowe
Pelf
Maine
Perez
K-ROD
J.J. Putz
Chad Cordero
Parnell
Feliciano
Green
what ya think
I believe Lowe’s market is going to come down a considerable amount, probably just enough for us to surface in negotiations. Yankees are signing Burnett and will bring back Pettitte. They’re done. Red Soxs don’t seem interested. Lowe could very well fall into our lap. You could definitely picture a path where Omar finds another lucky day.
Figured I’d post this here as well…
Just did a little research on Lowe’s numbers and now I’m against signing him.
About 90 of Derek Lowe’s 211 innings were against teams in the NL West. His ERA’s against divisonal teams:
ARI-2.05
COL-2.36
SF-2.57
SD-1.40
Home-9-5 2.30 ERA 113 innings in 17 starts
Away 5-6 4.42 ERA in 93 innings in 17 starts
Those are pretty alarming numbers to me, and not ones I’d want out of my 2 starter.
It appears that Lowe is simply a product of pitching for the best team in an awful hitting division.
Say no to Lowe.
Rey,
There are two ways you can look at that: either, as you say, that he’s at his best in a weak-hitting division, or that he’s at his best in inter-division games that matter most. From a character standpoint, I like Lowe much better than a guy like Perez, but Perez, as maddening as he may be personally, is hell against lefties…and Philly just got another really good lefty bat. I don’t like Perez, but he might be the better option here.
On a side note, don’t look now, but with this migration of talent the NL East is fast becoming the toughest division in baseball…if Burnett and Tex come into this division, you could certainly make the case….
Cactus
Not sure if they are doomed for years but in reading the story on CNBC, this could have a very detrimental impact on the team this offseason…
You do NOT lose 2 picks for signing a type A free agent.
if what we’re concerned about in not signing Ollie is losing the two picks we would gain when he signs elsewhere, thats a problem. We can’t go into next season not signing a pitcher of Ollie’s caliber or better, and that means losing those picks either way. All this talk about Tex, Manny, Dunn, forget it people, we need a starting pitcher. We have a team that can get to the postseason with any luck and health, but once there, we need pitchers who can line up and shut teams down, not randy wolf, or jon garland, or even john maine (unless the kid blossoms already).
sry , iread a previous post the wrong way, disregard the previous (although it is still true)
Pray for signing Manny and Ollie.
all i know is ithat I saw Lowe pitch in the playoffs this year and he was very good.
Dark Star:
Ollie isn’t exactly lining up and shutting people out every time out. Yes in 2006 he was great in the postseason. But will he be that way every time?
I’m all for re-signing him at the right price. Just like signing Lowe at the right price. I don’t believe Lowe is a #2 starter by any-means. It’s like the old saying just cause he is your ACE starter doesn’t mean he is an ACE. Same can be said for Lowe, just cause he would be our #2 starter, doesn’t mean he is a #2 starter.
And I firmly believe that Garland would be a good acquisition to the ball club. Him and perez would fill out the rotation nicely. Yes i know there is no #2 starting pitcher, but their 2-5 is probably as solid as their is in baseball.
This is all asuming that Their contracts are reasonable. Not 15 mil for Perez and and 14 for garland.
I have to agree with darkstar, we do NOT need much help on offense, we need a pitcher….I’ll reiterate it…If the offense does what they did last year, (including how crappy they played with Willie) and the NEW bullpen blows HALF of the 29 games they blew last year (I would think quite feasible now) the mets would win 103-104 games, and have the best record in baseball, never mind the division…
the problem with Ollie is he walks too many batters to be a great SP.
id rather overpay for Lowe and get the 15 wins 200 IP and an era under 3.75 then watch Olli give up 6 runs in 1 inning one start and 1 run in 6 innings the next
mdemaio:
If Lowe was pitching in a solid division like the NL Central, I could see it as doing exceptionally well in divisional games. But when 1/6 of your innings are against the Padres, that is something completely different.
If Lowe comes here, his ERA will be right around 4. Paying 15+ Mil per year to a 35 year old for 4 years is not worth those numbers.
I completely agree that Perez is the better option than Lowe.
The best thing the Mets can do is sign Sheets and Garland. That would leave us with 3 200+ inning workhoreses (Santana, Garland, Pelfrey), and a guy (Sheets) who is an ace when he’s healthy. Even if Sheets starts 22-27 games, our rotation would be lethal.
Everyone is saying that signing Sheets would be such a risk, but it’s not if you acquire a Garland/Marquis to offset him. Guys like Sheets are a problem when you begin relying on them to be healthy, but we won’t have to with 3 workhorses in the rotation. Plus, if Sheets goes down, we have both Niese and Parnell who are ML ready starters to fill in.
Santana, Sheets, Pelfrey, Garland, and Maine is a ridiculous rotation, and it’s not even a farfetched idea.
Johan, Ollie, Pelf, Maine, Garland (Marquis) is just fine!!
longislandmetsfan:
I do agree that we need 2 pitchers, but to say our offense is fine is a ridiculous statement.
Anybody who watched the Mets play in 07/08 saw just how inconsistent they were. They were so off/on, it was hard to watch.
Dunn would be a great idea behind Delgado. He gets on base a lot, he hits for power, and he’d fill our LF hole.
Everyone seems to say we dont know what John Maine will be like after surgery, itsnot like the guy had tommy john, or rotator cuff surgery, he just had soem bone chips and a lesion removed. Its really not that serious at all.
reyordonez
how can you say that Ollie is better than Lowe. i can understand not wanting to spend the money for him but come on.
I said not MUCH help on offense….we need pitching 1st, then some tweaking on offense…we dont NEED a manny was my point…sure it would make the lineup ridiculous, but it would be a total luxury…Dunn isnt a bad idea, but isnt he a lefty? We could really use a righty…
oleosmirf:
Look at my post in the late 90’s and it’ll show you why Lowe is such a bad investment.
Other reasons:
Lowe is 35, Perez is 27
We’ve seen Perez for the last 2 years and know what we’re getting with him. If Lowe comes out of AAA, excuse me, the NL West, his numbers will be significantly worse.
Lowe will cost more money than Perez. We’d be paying Lowe 15+ Mil (possibly more if his contract is backloaded) when he turns 40.
I’ll say it again: Derek Lowe is a product of pitching on the best team in the MLB’s worst hitting division. He pitched 1/6 of his innings against the San Diego Padres.
I would love to get Sheets and Marquis for the rotation. The cost of those 2 would not keep you from upgrading the offense.
longislandmetsfan
do we need manny to make the playoffs no but we need him if we want to be a great team.
manny gaurentees us a playoff appearence, Adam Dunn makes us better but he or anyone else is no substitute for Manny
Ah I see, I agree that Manny isn’t a necessity, although he’d fit perfectly into our lineup.
Dunn is lefty, but if we balance out our lineup a little more, it could work.
I guess they could look at Milton Bradley, Pat Burrell, or Juan Rivera as other alternatives.
rey, i kind of agree, i think lowe is overated. If Pelfrey continues doing his thing, and MAine can come back well, lowe would be the 4th best starter,
yankees get burnett 82.5 million done deal now hopefully we see where the rest of starting pitchers stand and hopefully around our price range
All I’m trying to say is that Manny and Texeira most likely are NOT happening….thats all….
According to ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick, the Yankees have signed A.J. Burnett to a five-year, $82.5MM deal.
longislandmetsfan:
Manny guarantees us a playoff appearance?
If we throw all our money at Manny, then settle for Randy Wolf, this team will not make the playoffs.
Santana
Sheets
Pelfrey
Garland
Maine
If we pick up a solid option at LF (Burrell, Bradley, etc.), and have that rotation, we’re an elite team.
Burnett=Pavano V2.
Awful, awful contract. Let’s be thankful that Omar didn’t even look at Burnett.
Let’s hope he doesn’t look at Lowe either.
mannys not coming but crazy things happen you never know but wilpons hate him so i doubt it Manny is a God and we would all buy his jerseys come 2 every game to watch him but until i hear the slightest news that minaya is interested lets drop the manny talk waste of time right now
Signing Manny and Ollie is the answer.
Santana, Pelfrey, Ollie, Maine, Marquis.
That’s more than fine and better than anything the Phillies have by any stretch of the imagination.
Manny ensures a World Series.
i saw ur post and you’d have to look at his stats beside this season to see if that is a trend or a fluke but even if what ur saying winds up being true Perez is not a reliable pitcher.
id rather go in with Pedro and Marquis on 1 year deals than locking up Perez
reyordonez, I didnt say manny guarantees us the playoffs, oleo did…I’m saying that we DON’T need manny….
Well when you’re buying a 35 year old, he’s only as good as his last year.
Look at Lowe even in 2007, he was worse than 2008. 3.80 ERA overall, his Pre and Post All-Star Break stats are night and day.
Lowe is not worth a 3 or 4 year contract, or 15 Mil.
Sign Garland and Sheets/Ollie.
im not saying we have to get Lowe but Ollie is not good. he’s either amazing or he’s terrible
i mean it really doesnt matter how much they make per year as long as we dont get stuck with unmoveable contracts like Castillo.
if you sign Ollie long term what happens in 2 years if he struggles and has an era over 5. thats very possible given his erratic pitching…
Pick up Fuentes!
A team of seven closers pitching as relievers would be fine with 3 starters pitching every 4 days.
It wasn’t that long ago that there wasn’t such a thing as a closer. Let’s remake the model again. A committee of closers that pitch 5 out 9 innings almost every game. All of that for the price of Perez….
According to ESPN radio, the Yankees are putting in offers to Sheets, Manny, Lowe and Teixeira. I hope we can sign a starting pitcher before the Yankees sign everyone.
it’s simple……new faces, Perez out………Sheets, Garland ,Wolf…..Lowe preferably……plenty of guys out there