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In the New York Post, Kevin Kernan spent time in New York City with David Wright, ‘who is working hard this offseason to add more explosiveness,’ which, he hopes, ‘will translate into more stolen bases and him being stronger down the stretch.’
Wright, on Citi Field, and what it could mean to his team, as quoted by Kernan:
“I think this is just what we needed, a new environment where what’s happened the last couple of years, we can learn from it, but we can kind of put it behind us and bring a new idea over to Citi Field… I’m excited about it, not only because it’s new, but it kind of represents for me a blank board where we can begin to pursue new goals and not necessarily have an anchor with us of the last couple of years.”
…this is interesting, as i had not though about that…on Opening Day of 2008, in Shea Stadium, i could not help but think of what the mood had been like during the previous game played in that building, i.e., the last game of 2007…however, Opening Day 2009 in Citi Field, there is a better chance of looking only forward, than had been the case in previous seasons…hopefully this will help…
It’s like how they say players just need a “change of scenery” when someone goes to a new team. Hopefully it works for a new stadium too.
Keep up the hard work Wright we needya more than ever this year!
THe NY Post link goes to K-Rod’s picture……
Gotta love DWright but I hope he just does what he does in working hard and just goes out and plays and doesn’t overthink everything. Last year he got so wrapped around “practicing” getting the count to game situations in Spring Training that it ran over into part of the season and got into alot of bad counts early. He’s got too much talent and enough experience now that he just needs to get ready and go play, let his talent take over and don’t overthink.
He’s playing in the WBC this year I believe. So he’s going to need that stamina more than ever.
Know what would help me get over the last two Septembers at Shea?
Manny.
That, and more cowbell. No, wait, less. Smaller stadium = cowbell being a bit too much, maybe.
Wright starting for the US in the WBC will/would be amazing. I personally love the WBC.
good article to read. I am glad that Wright is doing everything to make himself a better ball player. I am excited for the season.
LOL CITZENSHIPS speak of the devil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lol HEY DWRIGHT UNCLUTCH!!! WHERE DID WRIGHT GO TO HS??? NO LOOKIN UP!!! lol
What a loser…
Jimmy Rollins? That is someone I absolutely respect.
/sarcasm.
I think this DWUNCLUTCH guy is just some person who lives with his grandma and wants internet attention…
Quite a shame actually…
OK, now I’ve seen one of the posts. Interesting, burying a home grown guy who hits 30+ hr, 100+RBI’s (although he could have had like 160 last year) ouch. In 2007, in Philly end of the year DWright nearly one some key games on his own by being clutch. He had some huge games. To lay 2008 at his feet when the bullpen trashed 29 saves isn’t exactly fair. D. Wrights not the problem, but everyone’s got an opinion.
lol exactly my point ^
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we have two of the best young players in the games in wright and reyes and its amazing how some fans dont appreciate them. we are lucky to have them. they were not the problem last year.
Very good dwright5_godsend, thanks for answering DWUnclutch’s question for him… how very generous…
krod9: He wore #4 actually…
Some interesting David Wrigh Fun Facts ™:
BA / OBP / SLG
2 outs, RISP .259 .383 .449
late & close .307 .407 .483
tie game .318 .394 .544
withing 1 run .323 .405 .544
for the uninformed the defintion of ‘late & close’ is: PA in the 7th or later with the batting team tied, ahead by one, or the tying run at least on deck.
Don’t let facts get in the way of a based on 1 AB rant.
Not just MLB, any level….
guys why are bothering to engage this misanthrope with anything resembling a serious baseball question or discussion?
metsflip, i wasn’t referring to his jersey number.
I still don’t think the problem is the players. I think it’s our managers not sending them enough. Especially Beltran.
without manny, it will be a second place finish again…no matter how explosive wright is (how bout he work on his throws too)
@34
That is sooooo stupid. So we ignore the countless games he WON for us?
nostradamus…take a seat.
“That 1AB made the rest of his padded season irrelevant”
That is SO MISGUIDED that I am going to follow kingman 26’s advice and ignore you going forward. Good day sir.
sorry kingman I just had to…
loved kong by the way. One game when I was sitting way in the upper deck, I saw him blast a shot that looked like it traveled above our heads before landing in the parking lot. after that I think he struck out 3 times…
Thank you Gravedigger! This site is so great, and how we can allow Furioso/DWright/Whatever to become the dominant subject in so many threads?
Imagine what it would be like if he posted his drivel and NO ONE responded!
As Louis Armstrong said, What a Wonderful World it Would Be!
And he is of course Furioso with a new loser name, for those who doubt it…..
Yep, I don’t know much about MLB…you’re right. I only know enough to spot an idiot when I see one, and I must say that you are the most ignorant Mets fan ever. Shadow all of DWs accomplishments and his talent with one lousy AB. Yeah, that makes plenty of sense. Go back to wacking off in you’re mom’s basement.
Hey I just thought i’d join in here
Is every time D.Wright says anything he’s going to be criticized? One Man does not make a team I think we all learned that because despite scoring like 800 runs last season the Mets still didn’t make the playoffs. It takes the offense and the defense to make a team. I think we all know about David and that one game where he made an out, okay jeez everybody in baseball makes an out at one time or another, is that really enough to crucify him? What about the countless other times he didn’t make an out? In baseball getting a hit half of the time makes you a phenomenal players, so seriously anybody that is still concerned with that one out needs to grow up. Yes it was a big game, and a big out but its over and done with, there’s no reason to keep bringing it up forever. As for David, he’s a great player and I think we are all lucky to have him. Its time for some people on this board to grow up and stop trying to fill the void in their own lives by posting on a baseball blog just to get some attention
just be $.02
I see trees of green…….. red roses too
I see em bloom….. for me and for you
And I think to myself…. what a wonderful world.
I see skies of blue….. clouds of white
Bright blessed days….dark sacred nights
And I think to myself …..what a wonderful world.
The colors of a rainbow…..so pretty ..in the sky
Are also on the faces…..of people ..going by
I see friends shaking hands…..sayin.. how do you do
Theyre really sayin……i love you.
I hear babies cry…… I watch them grow
Theyll learn much more…..than Ill never know
And I think to myself …..what a wonderful world
my* $.02
cleonsvan—thanks, and I am not at all trying to sound condescending here, as I used to respond to Furioso/DWright all the time too, and it took a while to get over it…but it is awful how he dominates threads now!
And yes, I was a kid in the 70s, and while I do know how mediocre Kingman was in every non-home run-related aspect of baseball, those homers he hit in the dark 1970s/early 80s were really quite impressive…you have perfectly described several games I was at as a kid!
LOL GraveDigger!
Now THAT’s the way to respond to the haters on here!!
Louis was a true king of American music and culture…and he ALWAYS brought the band in from 3rd with less than 2 outs, every time….
I also am sorry that I responded to certain posters (who are losers) you are all right its best to ignore him.
I never compared MLB to HS…I said you obviously haven’t played at any level. That being said, I’m done arguing with you. Have fun with your obviously pathetic and frustrating life.
Did you guys just breakup or something? Alright, now I’m gone.
hey dwright!!
how is that other 3rd baseman over in the bronx look?
boy he is real good in the playoffs isnt he?
forget the playoffs how about with men on base?
man he is good i would love to have that clown…you are an idiot…why are you even on this blog site?…no one cares what you have to say
“Louis was a true king of American music and culture…and he ALWAYS brought the band in from 3rd with less than 2 outs, every time….”
That is of course true, but even if it weren’t I wouldn’t build my resume on critiquing the one time he didn’t, instead I would enjoy the overall body of work.
I think the phrase is “attention whore” and I thank you for preventing me from continuing to solicit.
hey dwright unclutch
come on you havent answered me…hows your third baseman?
you like to come on here and rag about our third baseman..hows that homo across town doing?
Yes, a pretty sad dude you are…go for a walk, pet a dog, smile at a child, pick a frigin daisy…..do something before it is too late to still become a reasonable human being.
And this does not count as a response, as I am not talking about baseball.
LOL!!
im gonna be ridicualously angry if the skankees end up getting manny
First good point that poster has made, albeit a sideways one.
Talking about someone who seeks attention is as bad as engaging them directly, so going forward I’m going to stop talking about them too.
What was Cerrone’s original post about, anyway? Oh yeah, “explosiveness.” I think Wright has fine SB abilities as it is, I see no need for him to work on improving that aspect of his game, but he knows himself better than I know him so if that’s an area he wants to improve in I say more power to him.
As far as his being stronger down the stretch, I think a few well placed days off would go a long way to that goal as well, so a player who can fill in @ 3B maybe once a month (like in game 10 of a 10 games in 10 days stretch, for example) if attainable is a good thing. Wiggy would help so much to rest so many players, he makes a lot of sense.
Wow, something disappeared. Thank you to the powers that be!
signing Manny Ramirez would singlehandedly put the mets in the playoffs
even if his great attitude in LA was just to get a great contract Manny still hit .396 with 17 HR and 64 RBI in only 53 games. Thats better than what we had in LF ALL SEASON
obviously Manny wont to that amazing for the Mets but batting him inbetween Beltran and Wright imagine how good Manny would be
is .325 40 HR and 130 RBI with an OBP of .420 really that farfetched???
imagine an opposing pitcher starting off the game with 1. Reyes 2. Beltran 3. Wright 4. Manny. 5. Delgado.
now as long as we dont have Ollie to give the lead right back we’d be all set. doesnt matter who the starter is as long as they can go 6 IP 4R or less every start were in great shape
I agree, Manny is the missing link here, making us world series contenders.
well its not going to happen..freaking wilpons dont like him..idiots…i wish omar was abe to fire the wilpons
if the wilpons liked him..there is no doubt in my mind that the mets would have him already
Yeah, but think of it this way—with the Madoff thing compounding the overall economy, and the Yanks stealing the spotlight with CC and Burnett, maybe the added pressure to be sure to win in 2009, combined with the fact that even with KRod Omar hasn’t spent all that much yet, AND taking into consideration Manny’s plummeting market price, maybe all of this will combine to make the Wilpons willing to get proven-winner Manny??
And as someone pointed out, the Manny tshirt sales wouldn’t hurt either….
Now, David is already a great player, and he might not have had the best statistical season in those “clutch” spots last year, but that is the anomaly of his professional seasons. He had one bad/decent year (decent for an average player).
If you cannot applaud a guy who is trying to make himself stronger and more prepared for the year at hand, there is something wrong with you. He, more than any of us fans, wants to put the past two years behind him and is going to work relentlessly over these next couple of months to get him ready to slay those demons. Now, this offense, has a bullpen that will protect those late game leads that were lost last year.
If half those games blown were saved, we are not sitting here taking about how unclutch DW was or is.
kingman i hope you are 110% right
haha…who is he anyway?…i mean is he a yankee fan just wanting attention on a mets message board?
Guys, we have some concerning news. The New York Post says that the Yankees are likely to offer Manny a 3 year deal for about 20 million a season if they lose out on Texieria.
Although, the article does say they would entertain the idea of trading Nady if such a situation would arise.
i would love for nady to come back
Honestly, the Yankee talk sounds all too fishy to me. I doubt it would happen.
i agree with you phil..i think ina way they are taunting tex to sign with them..but again if they do get manny..lets look at nady..i wish i knew omar i would call and bother him all da about getting manny
Shea Stadium deserved better the last to years.
R.I.P. Shea Stadium, We Owe You One.
in the end what will be the better move k rod or putz?
I would be all for Manny on a 2/3 year contract, 4 years i do’nt think so, but is there really room in the budget for that, AND, to sign a guy like Ollie? I just don’t know. Signing another pitcher has to be a higher priority at this point.
I really wish that the Mets would sign Manny. I don’t understand why Omar doesn’t think he needs to improve the lineup. The Phillies replaced pat the bat with ibanez which is probably an upgrade.
newyorkmets
omar loves manny..its the front office of wilpons who dont want him and think he is a sore in the clubhouse…which is ridiculous
we have a budget people, and multiple holes to fill, we can’t just go out and get everything we may think we need.
enterkrod
the thing is he might be a distraction for a predominatly white clubhouses like the Yankees, Red Sox, Braves, Cubs etc. but for “Los Mets” Manny will fit right in
oleo..believe me i want manny on the mets…i think he would fit right in…i wouldnt be surprised to see something work out..i just have that feeling..it seems almost too god to be true that scott boras represents lowe/ollie/AND manny…
I wouldn’t be surprised at all if we found Manny on our team next year. All you have to do is analyze the marketplace in store for him. The Red Soxs obviously are out. The Yankees, I just don’t see happening. They have a surplus of corner outfielders already. Plus, don’t they need a center fielder? Is the Mike Cameron trade still on? In any case you arrange it, one of them would be regulated to DH. There is no fit for Manny, unless someone is moved. I doubt all that shuffling would take place. The Dodgers seem to be growing more and more frustrated by the day. I could totally see them getting fed up with Boras’ antics and moving on. They probably are already figuring out their plans of life after Manny as we speak. Maybe the Angels, if they lose out on Texieria? That would seem like the most logical competition. Although, GM Tony Reagins has publicly stated that they have another direction in place instead of Manny if that occurrence were to arise.
again…its just all roads point to the mets getting manny…i would loooove to see manny and jose and k-rods antics..haha..i can see it now..you know how crazy jose and mannys handshakes would be after they hit homeruns?
not to mention i think the dodgers are already out of the manny sweepstakes..i just dont see them caring for him…like you said..yankees dont need any outfielders…obviously boston is out..mets are next in line…it would be stupid not to pursue manny
do think the should get manny
I feel like if the mets were definitely not going after Manny Omar would publicly announce that they have no interest and are not going after Manny…i wont be surprised if we jump in at some point…Omars prob trying to work a deal right now to trade for a SP
ABSOLUTELY
look at all the crap the phillies fans and players have been talking. cole hammels calling the mets choke artists on new york sports radio? i know that doesn’t justify us going out and signing Manny but how good would it feel to shut them up after watching manny owning the phillies for the next three years.
what does it mean when it says ur comment is awaiting moderation????
and who knows maybe Manny can bring out the best in Pedro
What I wish it meant is that you mentioned Manny Ramirez. What it really means is that you typed a word with the letters A, S, and S appearing in succession, or some other banned combo.
and then like we have been talking about..i wouldnt mind castillo at 2nd base..it just seems that manny along with one more SP..its all the pieces to the puzzle
Too many uniforms…so what do you think the mets should do to finish out the offseason
Where’s the post about Fred Wilpon blowing millions of his and the team’s money in an alleged Ponzi scheme????
Anyway, I’m curious to know just how much it was. . . .
toomanyuniforms
they said it was i believe 300 million
I would pick up Orlando Hudson and maybe a veteran corner outfielder/ 1B of the Tony Clark/ Luis Gonzalez variety. It would be nice to have Manny Ramirez, but I wouldn’t get my hopes up.
If we could some how move delgado for someone like Sonnastine or a solid SP…then sign Manny and move Murphy to 1b…this team is SET
do think the the mets should lowe or ollie
lowe
Airfeet, I’d be completely on board with that, but I don’t see them successfully moving Delgado for a young SP. If anything, it would be a deadline deal, and if he’s performing at the deadline, unless the Mets are out of it (shudder), they’ll keep him.
we are trying to get younger..not older with clark or hudson..i know i know manny is 36..but he can still hit the ball 400 feet
It feels so good watching that player profile video clip of Manny crushing a homerun off Cole Hamels in the NLCS.
if your gonna sign Manny why would you then move Delgado for a #4 starter when you can keep Delgado and his 30 HR 100 RBI and sign a #4 starter
I hope Wright is working on his throwing to 1B and scoring runners.
I know Wright, Beltran and Delgado were in top 5 of NL RBIs, but for some reason I feel like when we really needed them, the RBIs didn’t happen.
Score early and often is my motto!
i mean you know Manny wants to play for the mets more than any other team in baseball
we should go for saito. it would make our bullpen stellar and potent. picture this saito for 7th, putz for 8th, k rod for 9th. WOW!
haha..hey casestreet
that was their motto too…too bad the bullpens motto was blow the lead late and often
strings
ollie isnt even on the same level as Lowe
Oleosmurf….very simple…because if you sign Manny then u have no where to play Murphy…so by trading delgado we can upgrade our SP…and Delgado will NOT be hititng 30 homers 100+ RBIS…but we can almost be certain he’ll be batting .260
you play murphy at 2nd base OR a bench player
if the mets got Manny then they would make the playoffs and the WORLD SERIES!!!!
bottom line is that we get manny…everyone plays better…everyone gets more excited especially after the signings and releasing of players..i mean..this team with manny and one more SP will be one of the best teams in baseball by far
Omar, please, so I can start to enjoy this offseason, GET RID OF CASTILLO. By legal or illegal means, I don’t care.
Because most likely signing Manny would mean we could not afford another SP. Looks like the Yankee’s may trade Nady. Could the Mets and Yankee’s ever get anything worked out there? What about Nady and Rasner for Delgado? Nady could platoon with Murphy at 1B and give Church time off.
Then of course sign Manny. The 8 million you saved on Delgado could go towards Manny.
airfeet
i’m sorry but you dont trade Delgado and give away an automatic 30 HR and 100 RBI to make room for Daniel Murphy. Murphy would play some 2B and RF and be a great PH late in games bat of the bench and if he can prove that he isnt a completely awful 2B he would probably eventually start over Castillo.
this idea that Murphy is the next David Wright is ridiculous…
i think wright is going to play hard next year
Almost as ridiculous as thinking that Delagdo is a lock for 30, 100.
omar should think about going after milton bradely. i know he is a hothead but did you guys see his average last year
Let’s go Wright :)
Someone should have told Delgado he was a lock for that in 2007.
NtNYM3 did you see how many games he played in the field last year? Let me put it this way you should have enough fingers and toes to count them.
i disagree completely Oleosmirf
Delgado is anything but a lock for 30/100. And he may be charitable, a great guy, yadda, yadda, yadda, but he is no leader. It’s tough for fans to figure out a clubhouse dynamic, but having too much “leadership” entrusted to too many pas_sive players (Delgado, Beltran) can’t help.
i agree sign lowe/ollie
sign another arm for the bullpen
sign MANNY
call it an offseason
i agree with u ntmets3
Everyone go to Youtube, and search “Manny Ramirez arrives at Dodger Stadium”.
i feel like there is such a huge risk on delgado…we are either gonna get the big numbers or we are gonna get a completely miserable bat in hte middle of our lineup who CANT run
Sign Manny
Sign Lowe
Trade Delgado for Nady and Rasner
Sign Eddie Guardado
Sign a utility IF.
Done
Agree Airfeet, I would much rather have Nady and Rasner.
toomanyuniforms —
I agree it is totally time to sell high on Delgado. Anyone expecting him to get 30/100 is in fantasy land. The man is ripe to underperform his last year at best.. Get hurt at worst.
Omar has to consider moving him to the Tex loser and get creative with our starting 8.. I think his statements that he is happy with the starting 8 is a smoke screen.
K Rod Should Get As Many Saves As He Did Last Year
TheReal….only problem is the yanks love Nady so theres no way they are gonna trade him for Delgado…and also if we get Nady and sign Manny then we have Church Nady Beltran and Manny…so are u suggesting we swing a deal to trade Church for another starter?
There seems to be a pattern here. People writing in shorthand with spelling errors seem to want every player under the sun signed, sealed and delivered. Hmmmm. . . .
Kids, it’s not that easy. Life isn’t that easy. We’re not dealing with an unlimited budget, nor (and here’s the part that may be difficult to comprehend) should we want to. You know how every Yankees win comes with an asterisk because of how much they’ve spent to get it? How any season in which they don’t make the ALCS is a complete disaster? Who wants that? Where’s the fun in that? If you want guaranteed dominance, wrap yourself in bubblewrap and play video games all day on the easiest setting (not that you don’t do that already . . . but I have enough faith in the future of American society to pretend you don’t.)
If nothing else, recognize that, whether or not they could, would, or should, the Mets do NOT operate like the Yankees and will NOT buy for you all-stars three deep at every position. There’s a budget, here. Try figuring out what the roster will look like under the constraints of what we think the budget will be, and you might find this exercise more interesting.
why does everyone think that Manny is such a guarantee to put up 35+ HRs and 130 RBI’s, and Delgado is more prone to just fall off the face of the earth? In 2007 Manny had a bad year, 20 HRs, and Delgado hit 24 that year, but Delgado and Manny both have a renaissance of sorts, and Delgado is a pile of dog sh–t to you guys, and Manny is god? I understand getting Manny would be huge, and that he’s a better hitter, but there’s no guarantees here. In ‘07, many people were saying Manny was on the serious downside of his career. So when thereal says that Delgado is no where guaranteed to putting up 30 and 100, why is Manny? Both of them looked absolutely amazing late last year, so what gives?
and the fact that Delgado put up those huge numbers at the end of last season was a blessing for us by giving us a second chance of moving him
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Remove the brackets and watch that video.
Manny would fit in so well here.
TRS, Rasner and Nady??
No thanks!
Sign Manny first, try and sign Saito and have the best bullpen on earth, then sign Lowe if the Wilpons have any money left, Ollie if not, and if we cannot afford even him, pray Maine is healthy for the 3 spot and go back to the Marquis/Garland scrapheap, sign Johnson or Pedro on an incentive-heavy 1-year deal, and then we are done!
well darkstar…Manny at least will guarantee a much higher batting average than Delgado…which is still a very important stat
Delgodo Will Get 30 Homers Next Year For Sure
hi ho !!! u r correct sir !!
And Manny guarantees a much higher OBP than Delgado, which is an even more important stat….
kingman u smoking crack?? his arm is hanging on like one of steve croppers guitar strings
Why does every word start with a capital letter? Is that the title of a poem you’re writing about Delgado???
Anyway, I kid. It’s a nice thought, and nice that you believe in Delgado. I just wish you were the GM of an AL team.
i want manny too but remember our owner was just bilked outta 500 mil don’t think its happening
people, you are missing the point, i said Manny is the better hitter/player, he’ll put up better numbers, that’s not the point. It’s the fact that everyone thinks he’ll come here and be godly for us,and Delgado is bound to fall flat on his face. It makes no sense whatsoever.
lol i think delgado will have a banner year
Whose arm Rusty–Pedro’s, Randy Johnson’s or Maine’s?
Or as Borat would say, his arm, it hang like sleeve of wizard…..
rustyjr, I don’t remember Mo Vaughn or Bobby Bonilla costing thaaaaaat much. . . .
Either of them work for a hedge fund?
lol saito’s
i’d say take it out of jeff bar mitzvah money
TMU, you never saw the check after the Wilpons took Mo to the Carnegie Deli for lunch….before Madoff, that was their all-time biggest loss…..
well darkstart that mite be because he was actually godly for the Dodgers
I also believe in Delgado, but I seem to be a minority. I think the thing with Manny is not just the numbers and the hits (but he will take pressure of the lineup especially for Wright who always seems to feel the pressure). Besides all of that is the swagger he brings, this team needs some of that attitude and fire. Manny took the Dodgers on his back and carried them into the World Series, and that’s why I want him on the Mets. I want him to push them and erase ghosts of Septembers past
besides 2007 and 1996 Delgado has hit at least 30 HR and 100 RBI
1996 was his rookie year and 2007 he was hurt.
obviously he’s not going to repeat his 2nd half of 08 but .265 32 HR and 110 RBI is very likely for 2009 and you dont trade him just because hes 36 and hes not going to win an MVP
Well, Manny did not quite carry the Dodgers to the series, but he carried them to the playoffs, and helped the Red Sox win their only titles since 1918, and the Indians their only pennants since 1954….Delgado is good, but he is not Manny.
Manny?? Fire?? Taking a leak in the middle of an inning is “fire”??? Dogging it for a trade is “fire”?
He’s productive, but firey he’s not.
delgado is a stiff get rid of the guy!
my bad i meant the playoffs, i think i am just in a world series mindset
No Oleosmif but you trade him to improve the team…just because he may hit .265 w 30 and 100 doesnt mean that value is the most useful to the mets winning. Remember we have only 3 SPs right now
if the Wilpons want the Mets to be the talk of the town for a good reason over the yankees for once, sign manny and let the man carry this team on his back. right now on paper, are we a better team then the phillies?
Despite all the injuries last year, two things caused the Mets not taking the division:
1. blown leads – K-Rod, Putz and banishing Heilman, Shoeneweis and Smith have helped. Bring in Ayala and I’ll be happy.
2. inability to score in the late innings – this hasn’t been addressed yet, but I would hope that having Tatis, Murphy and Pagan coming off the bench will solve this problem. So we still need an every day LF. You guys know I’m all for Juan Rivera, but if it’s Manny or Dunn, I’d be happy. As long as it’s not Murphy/Tatis.
We really don’t need to improve anywhere else, so Ollie and a DEPENDABLE #5 is fine (dependable would be an improvement over last year).
Oh, and Santa, I want Tex for X-mas. :)
we are always better on paper than the phillies…but remember that we are the team with the most talent that somehow cant win games in september…
Case,
You want Tex? Why didn’t you tell me!!
Done!
Love,
Santa
if Murphy plays well in spring training there is absolutely no reason he shouldnt be starting everyday
Manny hasn’t lead anyone anywhere, and he’s certainly not firey. He asked out of games multiple times for fake injuries, and abandoned his team twice. In ‘07 when he sat the last month with one his “injuries” and in ‘08 when he quit on the team in order to get traded. What a team player guys! The thing you fail to mention about Manny leading the Dodgers, the Sox, and Indians, is that, 1. the Sox and the Indians were very good teams with a lot of very good players, and 2. the dodgers competition was horrible to get into the playoffs. I’m not doubting his ability, I think he’s amazing, and wouldn’t mind him on the team, but people around here are making him into something he just isn’t.
Airfeet, the Yankee’s are thinking of trading Nady anyway.
And with Nady getting AB’s at 1B, RF and days off for Manny. He would be great protection for Murphy.
Let me sum some things up for everyone…MANNY RAMIREZ IS THE BEST OFFENSIVE PLAYER IN THE ENITRE MAJOR LEAGUES RIGHT NOW AND IS A FREE AGENT…HE IS CLUTCH AND VERY FUN TO WATCH…if omar doesnt make a run for him then he is very stupid…reyes, beltran manny, delgado, wright…would be the best 1-5 hitters in the entire mlb
How do any of you know he “faked” injuries? You don’t.
And for the umpteenth time, EVERY word we all heard about Pedro from the Boston media was completely false—every word about him being a prima donna, bad in the clubhouse, etc etc etc. Not one word was true.
Manny certainly comes with warts and is not perfect, but he has a resume of being an integral part of winning teams that few can match in the last 50 years.
And Ortiz looked a lot different hitting in the clutch in the postseason without Manny protecting him in the lineup.
And lastly, the NL pitchers don’t know Manny as last year showed…that still will not have worn off for a while in 2009.
Santa,
Thanks. Know I can have my life back.
darkstar73
manny ramirez has more postseason appearences than the entire mets franchise and singlehandedly took the dodgers to the playoffs
on a “bad year” Manny hits .280 30 HR 100 RBI. how unhappy could Manny be playing for “Los Mets”
now
I am not trading Delgado JUST because he might not hit. I am trading him because he has value and is a FA after this season. I would rather get Manny for 3 years and use Delgado to fill another spot. You could have Manny and a cheap #5 from trading Delgado for the Same price as Delgado and signing a #5.
the Real thats not a bad idea…but why not target a starter with delgado since we need 2 SPs…
Manny would inspire fear
Agreed The Real
Rasner would be an ok choice to compete with Niese for the #5 spot.
TheReal that is a very good idea, just not for Nady and Rasner please!
Pardon me Case, but if we don’t get Tex, does Murphy have a 1B glove?? He did play 13 games at 1B in AA in 2008…
Manny in LF and Murph at 1B, and trade Delgado for a starter and sign Saito and/or Guardado…man, that sounds good….
trs86
if the Mets could trade Delgado to the Yankees for Rasner and Nady I would do that only if Manny was in LF.
but there are pitchers better than Rasner on the FA list that will cost pretty much the same and Delgado > Nady
Sign Manny and Lowe/Ollie.
Sign a cheap, dependable starter off the scrap heap for 5th starter.
See you in October.
Actually I think it would work. You would save a ton of money on Delagdo for Nady and Rasner and then Nady most likely would be a type A FA next year.
And If the Yankee’s miss out on Manny then Delgado would be perfect for them at 1B.
Never mind, Rasner is in Japan. I forgot.
thereal, so, who exactly is in our starting rotation in your dream world? Or are we also signing Ollie/Lowe after signing Manny, and trading Delgado for some #5 starter. Your budget doesn’t really add up.
-trade delgado for some bullpen or maybe a starter
-sign manny
- put murph/evans at first
kingman, unless Murphy learns to play 2B or adds 20 lbs of muscle, he’s not starting for me. Actually, I’d rather he start in AAA. He could use some more time there. His 131 ABs aren’t enough to give him a starting position.
Actually, I’d rather get Dunn over Manny. At least with Dunn you can move him to 1B and bring up F-Mart at some point.
I think delgado is going to do great next year
Case Street…Murphy starting in our lineup depends on how he plays in spring training….if hes killing hte ball in spring training theres no way he’ll be in triple A to start hte season
i still dont understand the reasoning for dumping Delgado.
lets say Delgado has a drop off and hits .260 with 30 HR and 100 RBI that is fantastic for a #5 hitter.
noone else the Mets could get in any trade for Delgado can replace those numbers
Also…Murphy has shown more plate discipline and patience at the plate than pretty much any met last year..that pretty much tells us hes about ready to be an everyday player
Olesmirf…maybe thats because wed be trying to get a SP in return…not another bat
How does it not add up?
Sign Lowe 3/40
Sign Manny 3/60
Trade Delgado for Nady and SP? Now it may have to be someone else because the Yankee’s don’t have a #5 starter that they would trade or we would want. But anyway that would save us 8 million.
Thus
It would cost us 26 million to add Lowe, Manny, Nady and the #5 starter.
Right now, here’s the 2010 Mets:
Reyes
Murphy – LF
Wright
Beltran
Church – RF
Evans – 1B
Catcher
And then F-Mart replaces Church in 2011
So Tex is a supersub off the bench??
VERY interesting!
:)
Point is that Manny can replace Delgado’s numbers and more for only 8 million more and Delgado can be traded for a #5 that would cost 8 million anyway.
airfeet
why would the mets trade him for a mediocre SP when there are 20 or so mediocre SP on the FA list.
why trade him for andy sonnanstine when you can get Odalis Perez, Brad Penny, Livan etc.
Delgado is so much better than Murphy than the upgrade you would get from Sonnanstine over one of those guys…
both lowe and manny will not come that cheap, guaranteed.
Oleo, I am not so sure about Delgado being an “automatic” 30/100….Plus, as TRS86 said, we cant afford BOTH Manny and a free agent SP signing. We’d be way over budget.
I’d LOVE Manny but think it will be Lowe or Ollie (not sure why no talk about Sheets) plus a 5th starter like a Garland to battle it out with Niese for the 5 slot. And, MAYBE O-dog if Omar can unload Castillo for a fungo. Add some bench moves (Wiggy? Thames to platoon w/ Murph and move Tatis to bench?) and we’re done.
Oleosmirft…first of all Sonnastine is about 20 times better than Odalis Perez…2nd of all the reason for trading delgado is to get rid of his salary so we can afford to sign free agent staters like lowe or Oliver Perez…and also so we maybe can have a chance to sign Delgado
Manny rahter …not delgado
Airfeet, I know he has plate discipline. It just felt like pitchers began to figure him out towards the end and he would be completely fooled by some pitches. Reminded me of Delgado in the first half.
What are their markets right now? You think Manny is going to get 25 million? Lowe 15? Thats the most I would see. Even then that’s 7 million.
So 45 million subtract Delgado’s 12 is 33 million. Still not an obsurd amount and close to what it would cost to keep Delagdo and sign 2 SP.
the mets need two starting pitchers who can pitch consistenly into the 7th. pitch well too, of course
+
a shake up in the line-up: pop, a speedster spark, or a gritty player.
Manny wont get more than 20…
kingman, yeah we have Tex, Ibanez and Manny all off the bench. Late inning runs buddy.
You don’t get it Oleo. We don’t have money to sign 2 SP and Manny. I would rather have Manny, 1SP and a free one like Sonnanstine.
Signing Lowe and a crappy pitcher will cost the same as Signing Manny and Lowe and trading Delgado for a #5 pitcher.
TMU (117),
BEST comment on Metsblog in at least a year!!
Kudos!
WE CAN ELIMINATE ALL DISCUSSION ABOUT WHO IS GOING AFTER WHO IN THE NATIONAL LEAGUE EAST, AND HOW DOES THAT AFFECT US ETC BY SIGNING THE ONE MAN THAT WILL TURN OUR LINEUP INTO A JUGGERNAUT….. MANNY RAMIREZ.
NATIONAL LEAGUE PITCHER’S WILL BE ON THEIR HEELS FROM THE 1ST INNING,HIS NUMBER’S AND CONSISTENCY ARE ABSOLUTELY SICK, HIS ABILITY TO HIT IN THE CLUTCH AND GET ON BASE ARE WITHOUT PEER AND HE IS NOT SLOWING DOWN.
DON’T BE FOOLED BY THE ” HE’LL BE 37 ” CROWD THIS MAN IS THE GREATEST RBI MAN OF THIS GENERATION AND AS I’VE STATED BEFORE HE IS REGARDED BY MANY AS THE GREATEST RIGHT HANDED HITTER IN BASEBALL HISTORY, HIS NUMBERS ACROSS THE BOARD ARE ABSOLUTELY ASTONISHING HANDS DOWN.
THE ENERGY HE’LL BRING TO OUR BALL CLUB WILL BE PHENOMENAL, THAT SAID, IT WON’T MAKE A DIFFERENCE ABOUT DYE GOING TO ATLANTA OR ANY OTHER SENARIO THAT MAY PLAY OUT BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE THE DOMINICAN MESSIAH AND A LINEUP FOR THE AGES.
BTW, interesting photo of Wright. Will he be Schneider’s replacement and Murphy gets moved to 3B? hmmm…
Case (191)–Gotta go, but major LOL on that one!!!
What about bringing Looper back guys? Good innings guy now that should not cost as much as the other #5 starters.
Oleo,
What TRS86 said in 188. Who are your 2 SPs if you keep Delgado and sign Manny …and how do you afford them? If you have a good answer for that, keeping Delgado makes sense.
Did anyone hear Omar’s interview with Mike Francesa a few days ago? When mentioning his everyday players, I noticed that he conveniently did not say Delgado’s name. And, he expressed that we must find a way to play Murphy.
I think the mets should trade for Jake Peavy for the following players:
FMart
J.Niese
E.Kunz
R.Green
N.Evans
All of the players are under team control for a couple of years. They also are cheap and can play.
The Padres get starting pitching and bullpen help and also infield and outfield help.
Peavy has a preferred bias to play in national league and our pitching, both starting and relief will be young and good for years to come.
If you are looking to resign o.perez, or sign d.lowe, for about the same money and years you can get a proven cy young winner who is young and tough.
The mets traditionally have won on pitching and defense, not offense. They are in a pitchers ballpark.
This lineup is young: reyes, wright, murphy beltran and church are all under 31. They are not built to win now, just the opposite, they are built to keep winning.
If you get peavy, all of your starters are under 28.
The bullpen would have only 1 over 31, feliciano.
LET’S SIGN MANNY THIS YEAR, NEXT YEAR VLAD, AND PUJOLS AFTER 2010.
trs86
i would rather have Manny and Delgado in the lineup and Odalis Perez and Nelson Figueroa in the rotation
then Manny and Murphy replacing Delgado and Sonnanstine replacing Figueroa
If we would be trading Delgado, how about the Giants as a potential destination? Maybe we could create a package that would get net us Bengie Molina and Johnathan Sanchez?
Oleosmirf….Odalis Perez is one of the worst pitchers in mlb…whats with your obsession with him? hes AWFUL
bring looper back? that slime led the jose chant in the cards locker room after the 2006 nlcs.
i’d rather play in traffic with a blindfold on
getting Molina and a starter from the giants would actually be a phenominal trade
although to be honest i think Manny would be the last move.
either the mets are going to go way overboard on the budget b/c nobody wants Manny or they are not gonna sign him
they arent going to trade Delgado to fit him in
What about trading Schnieder to the Rsox for prospects then trading those prospects and Delgado to the Giants for Molina and Sanchez?
Sign Manny
Manny 20
Molina 6
Sanchez .5
26.5 million – 17 million for the 2 traded. That’s only 9.5 mllion to go from Delgado and Schnieder to Manny, Molina and Sanchez.
Yeah, Bengie Molina and Jonathan Sanchez/Noah Lowry?
LOL, I hope casestreet is joking. There is no way Manny is coming to the Mets. Not at his age. Hopefully both Omar and the Wilpons have wised up about older pricey players.
The Mets have bigger priorities now –namely Ollie or his replacement. And there isn’t an endless stream of money for payroll the way the Yankees think there is. The Yankees are a grotesque joke — spending up the wazoo on the one hand … and at the same time having their tin cups out to the state and city begging for more money to help finish their stadium.
Some of you can keep whining and pining for Manny or Tiexiera but you’re wasting your breath.
Oleo you still don’t get it
Delgado + Manny + Perez cost 35 million.
Manny+ Murphy + Sonnanstine cost 21 million. Why do you not understand that we can’t afford Manny, Delgado and a pitcher?
Nice thinking trs, but you’d be okay with Murphy or Evans as an everyday 1B? I know they’d be protected with Manny, but what about the days he’s injured or whatever. Then the lineup has a huge hole, unless Molina makes up for that hole.
I don’t know, I’m more inclined to have a balance lineup.
Interesting idea, though.
VCarver, you think Manny, Vlad and Pujols are a joke? j/k just having fun.
Actually, TRS, Oleo does seem to get it …he just wants our rotation to incl Figueroa and Odalis Perez. LOLOLOLOLOL. We’d lose a lot of 11-10 games!
trs86
either the mets are going to go way over budget and sign manny or they arent.
this idea that the Mets are trading Delgado to get Manny is ridiculous and while it will “work” its just not realistic
the Mets are gonna try to sign Lowe and a #5 SP, and a utility player.
then if Manny is still around in late Jan or Feb, Omar will try to convince them to up the payroll to get Manny…
If we trade Delgado in a deal for Molina and Sanchez/Lowry, then maybe you can even go out and sign a guy like Kevin Millar to give us some insurance at first base. Millar, Murphy, and Evans could certainly get the job done.
You would have a balanced lineup.
Reyes, Murphy, Wright, Manny, Beltran, Church, Molina, Castillo. That’s very balanced. Better than last year’s for sure.
Murphys gonna bat .325 w 15-20 homers and 80-100 RBIs….whats there to worry about??
I still disagree. They may start out by going over budget to get Manny. But once he is gotten they very well could deal Delgado.
Philnym31, how big is your bench? Castro, Reed, Murphy, Evans, Tatis (where’s Pagan and MI guy)
So what if Murphy bats .280 with a .350 OBP and 10 HR. Is that going to hurt us in a lineup with Manny in it?
therealsince86, yeah it is balanced. I was just thinking if Manny’s out then you have a big hole if you have Murphy at 1B and replace Manny w/ Evans or Tatis, but I guess Molina doesn’t make it a huge hole.
Yeah, you’re right Case Street. Murphy and Evans it is. They’ll be fine at first base.
Case Murphy would be at 1B so he would not be on the bench.
But true I see no need for Milar when we have Evans and Tatis that can play 1B.
guys, if you wanna see f-mart play, turn to espn deportes.
Manny’s not out that much with injury. It is just as likely that Delgado gets injured. Think about the Mets lineup with Delgado injured.
what channel on time warner?
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therealsince86, yeah but w/ Delgado at 1B we have an everyday LF like Dunn or my guy Rivera.
unless you think you’ll get the same production from Murphy as we would from Dunn or Rivera.
Martinez and Gomez in the OF, nice.
casestreet, are you seeing the game?
for now, I want to see F-Mart and Gomez bat.
Not a good start for out guys. Gomez couldn’t check his swing on a high fb and F-Mart got fooled on one and popped it to shallow LF, Anderson Hernandez made the play and acted like he’s an all-star.
casestreet
lol, you are right!
fire omar lol
f-mart looks stronger now and he is still growing. he may develop more power in the future.
what channel is the game on?
Yeah, F-Mart and Gomez look much bigger. I thought it might be cuz the other guys are smaller compared to MLB guys, but they def look big.
on espn deportes, on channel 220 in cablevision.
i got time warner
i heard the yanks will go hard on manny if the they don’t get tex
come on matt please get back to the old style posting board
Omar needs to do real some bussiness
Yankees S*ck! Yankees S*ck!
sorry, anytime someone mentions the Yankees, it’s an instant reaction.
understtod case street i feel the same way about the yankmees
Dear Fred Coupons,
If you let the Yankees get Manny (and don’t even make an offer), I will not spend a penny on the Mets this year.
Reyes runs those bases like there not even there
the mets need to get manny or else philly taking it again. delgado only played good half a season and beltran was on and off. good job with krod and putz but if they dont go after manny and another pitcher its pretty much a repeat of last september.
tin cup to finish the stadium? lol
the stadium is done
lets stick to talking baseball and leave finance the the finance professionals boys
some of you have lost it, manny is the make it or break it move to put the mets over the top? id rather see them eat some of castillos salary and move him to get hudso
Agreed SurgeNYC,
If Fred Coupons thinks he can can just sign Randy Wolf or John Garland and call it a day, this team will finish 3rd. Manny is a must, but if not, at least 2 or 3 of the offensive 8 has to be changed among C, LF, RF, 1B, 2B- just to change the culture and create some “turnover” on a team that’s fallen on it’s face the last 3 years. Offense crumbled/withered down the stretch yet again last year- you have to change the mix somehow. And obviously Castillo cannot come back under any circumstances.
If the mets got manny then they be better than the yankees and we would make series More than 1 time LOL
manny will make this team better. look what he did with boston and LA. having him there will with delgado, beltran, wright, reyes, and church will have them win the division weeks before the season ends. you guys might think i’m crazy man but they have to get manny
Manny would eat up all of casteos salary
I wish we could start a rally outside of Citi Field with We Want Manny chants. I doubt it will work but it’s worth a shot.
Uh, no. That’s not true. Yankee stadium and Citi Field are not finished. Both stadiums need more financing in order to cover current costs. And both teams have tin cups out now, asking for tax exemptions to raise financing.
However, what the Mets are asking for is already covered in the original deals they cut with the city/state back in 2006. Only the Yankees are asking for additional handouts not originally planned for. These additional handouts are expected to cost the city at least $16 million dollars in tax revenue.
The Yankees are the biggest joke. They break the bank with CC and Burnett while they have their stinkin’ tin cups out for more tax breaks.
Lupica wrote a column today criticizing the way the Yankees are operating and even predicted they could collapse under their debt one day.
The Yankees are the richest team in baseball but they are not only attempting to rob the the city with unwarranted tax breaks, they are operating in dangerous territory with their own debt load.
Omar needs to get those dancers to CitiField. That’ll stop the booing.
the way the economy is i understand it might be hard for people to spend money but with manny on the mets it will be a pack house at citifield come summer time.
Gomez on w/ man on 1B, no outs.
i really dont get why so many of us care about the yankees…..
getting manny makes the mets better than the yankees?
why is that even a concern? the mets dont need to be better than the yankees
the mets need to be better than the phillies, marlins, national, braves etc
citifeild still isnt ready
Gomez, walked but looked silly. He must be trying to work on something.
f-mart batting with runners on 3rd and 1st with no outs.
why are we even talking about the yankees we only play them 6x a year so f***k the yankees and their fans
if the mets get manny they will be unstopable. AGREE?
One person does not make a TEAM.
absolutely agree…hopefully yankees can get a trade done to get cameron so manny can come to new york mets..i just done see how omar and co. wont want to sign manny…other than the wilpons not liking him…which is ridiculous
Omar needs to make the move for manny right now . AGREE ?
the proposed completion date of the stadium is less than a month away and they are still on pace to finish on or before that date…. so lets not make it sound like they are in dire straits and the stadium wont be ready
again…i agree
I Agree
Yeah, right now. So they can outbid themselves like the Yankees did.
Haven’t you read. Manny has no offers. So why should Omar make a move now, that’ll only drive his price up not down.
Do you think that if the Mets made Manny an offer, Boras wouldn’t announce it to the world to get the price up? And do you really think he’d allow Manny to take it without waiting till January at least?
Get Saltalamachia!
i would feel comfortable if we got manny..kept niese in the rotation..and we signed pedro for a year or 2..i think he wants to prove he can still pitch..i would give him a shot…if we could get lowe with manny then absolutely but..
exactly wait and see if no market develops then consider signing him to a low ball offer
i really believe though mets will sign manny..oh my god..that would be crazy
I rant about the Yankees because they are bad for baseball and I hate them.
And here’s why all baseball fans should care about the Yankees, especially New Yorkers — they keep driving up salaries in baseball, making it more difficult for other teams to obtain and keep premium players. And here’s the kicker — with their generous tax breaks which are much much more than what the Mets have received, it’s you and I and all New Yorkers who are helping to subsidize their gross overpayment to players such as CC, Burnett and A-Rod.
Yes, we Mets fans are subsidizing those risky excessive contracts.
If the Yankees could do this on their own that’s a different matter. But they can’t and we have to help foot the bill for their excesses.
get manny AND resign pedro? wow
i hear victor zambrano is looking for work too
if we are talking about moving forward from the last 2 years then pedro is not part of the equation
while we are at it can we resign dave teglgater and bill pulsipher?
i second that emotion vcarver
thats not my point vcarver
thats a different disscussion of how the system is flawed
the mets and their fans need no be concerned with finishing with a better record than the yankees, there is no trophy given for that
one person doesn’t make a team but he damn sure makes a hugh difference. get manny and a good starting pitcher.
ecept for winning the hearts and minds of the citizens of the tri state area and to finally get smug yankmee fans off our cases
trust me manny aint coming to the mets we have a better shot at getting manny trillio lol
pedro is done he is not coming back. they should get ollie back or go for sheets
VCarver – Lots of developments get tax breaks. These are bond issuances where the interest is tax free and the Sports Teams pay the money back.
Railing about the Yankees does no good. The had an excessive payroll before they started to build the stadium and use the tax free bonds. More than likely – with 80 mil coming off the table and missing the playoffs last year they were going to spend this year.
I like how the talk is moving more towards shaking up the starting Eight. Getting creative with Delgado is a good step I’ve supported for over a year –regardless of his performance last year. He is a loser and a bad leader. Needs to go to change the culture of boredom.
Strings Is A Girl
vcarver
still think bannister is better than kazmir? :)
The point is neither stadium is finished in terms of covering their costs. And that’s the only point that matters.
And whereas the Mets are not asking for anything more than what was originally agreed to in 2006 — which at the time was less in terms of tax breaks than the Yankees — the Yankee have their stinkin’ tin cups out … all while giving excessive contracts to players like CC, Burnett and A-Rod.
The point is, Mets fans are helping to subsidize these Yankee excesses.
zen .. I still think Bannister was better than Kazmir at the time. Yes, he was. That’s all I said then.
And, do you still A-Rod will be a Met? Or Smoltz had the season you said he would at the beginning of ‘08?
Biggie …. Of course I know railing about the Yankees is not going to change the fact that Mets fans help subsidize the excessive contracts they hand out like candy. But it makes me feel better, lol.
The mets should get manny 4 at ldast 5 years
My point is that Phillies won cause they play like a team and are across the board good.
The Yankees and Mets have stars, but that didn’t do anything for us.
So yes, Manny will make us better, but I’m more interested in making sure the team as a whole is better.
Whether Manny does that or not, I don’t know. But the whole, Manny = WS just doesn’t bode well with me.
And biggie, the Yankees have already gotten about twice the amount of tax breaks the Mets have received … and they still have their stinkin’ tin cups out!
Hey – If Wilpon would spend less time thinking about how to invest in Ponzi schemes and more time thinking about how to increase revenue to grow his payroll to at least the Red Sox level I’d be a more peaceful person.
Notice how the Red Sox can get in the market for Tex and other top talent when they’ve got a logjam at the positions.
Point is — who cares what other teams spend and do.. we have our own issues to solve. Let’s discuss things we cant control with our own team and not worry about things we cant control with other teams.
“Hey – If Wilpon would spend less time thinking about how to invest in Ponzi schemes and more time thinking about how to increase revenue to grow his payroll to at least the Red Sox level I’d be a more peaceful person.”
Huh? The Mets payroll was bigger than the Red Sox payroll last year.
i never said a-rod would be a met.
smoltz is one of the best pitchers of this generation. i stand by that.
yes biggie… because fred thought about investing in a ponzi scheme and knew he was getting taken for a ride….
have the sox made a offer to tex?
By “last year” I meant the 2008 season.
zen … I’m pretty sure it was you who practically guaranteed that A-Rod would be a Met last winter after he opted out. Or perhaps you guaranteed that he would be swamped by $30 million dollar offers when the reality only the Yankees were willing to overpay him.
As for Smoltz, remember at the beginning of the year we kinda made a bet as to his performance this year? You said he would achieve a certain number of wins and/or ERA or something. I said he wouldn’t? And sure enough, he broke down.
I agree he is a great pitcher. But he was bound to break down sooner or later. He’s old.
Time for a new thread, it’s getting nasty in here.
definately not.
but we bet on kazmir not smoltz :)
Me on April 7th: “It’s academic how many innings he pitches this year. So lets make a bet, OK? I say less than 200. ”
Zen, you replied: “i’ll take the over on the smoltz bet. it’s a win/win for me. either i win the bet or he doesn’t pitch helping the mets :)”
So you lost the bet, zen. And I never made a bet about Kazmir and Bannister. I just made a statement as to their relative performances back in 2007.
Hey guys:
If the Yanks wind up signing Tex, should we pursue Swisher? I say go for it… What do you guys think?
what does tex have to do with swisher?
dieselpi:
Swisher is a Yankee
and Tex plays first and so does Swisher but he also plays OF the Yanks OF is filled…
LOL, the Yankees won’t sign Tex. They have no place to put him. Swisher was brought in to play first base for the Yanks so that’s probably what metsflip was referring to.
i still dont see how it would apply to the mets
isnt swisher a of? and still under contract
Im just suggesting lol
This may have already been posted but, say for argument’s sake the rumors are true:
Yankees sign Teixeira, which leads to…
Nationals sign Dunn, which leads to…
Angels sign Giambi & Burrell…
Some speculation says the Angels would rather have Morales at 1b and get two bats for less than the price of Tex alone, then swing a deal for Peavy.
Other speculation says the Nationals would pounce on Dunn if they don’t get Tex.
With the Red Sox out of the picture, that would leave the Dodgers, Mets, and Orioles as the top suitors for Manny. The Dodgers don’t seem willing to go to three years, and Baltimore was looking for more of a “face of the franchise” type. Could Manny then fall in the Mets’ laps on a three year deal?
Boras needs Tex to go to Boston so Manny can go to the Angels, here’s why:
If Tex goes to Angels, that leaves Mets or Yankees for Manny. Yankees have spent a lot already and likely won’t overpay for Manny, unless Boston gets Tex. And he knows Wilpons are anti-Manny.
If Tex goes to Boston, then you still have Angels and Yankees to go after Manny. Angles cause they need someone to protect Vlad and Yankees because Boston just got Tex.
see .. I think Boras wants Tex in Baltimore. .. If he can convince Angelos that he is getting a sweatheart deal he will have another Owner on his side and potentially another AL East team to compete for talent.
I wanted ARod last year.. And it’s a shame that Fred and Jeff were afraid to bid against the Yankees…
Who knows what would have happened with ARod in the lineup.
BiggieSmalls, maybe but not likely cause the Orioles aren’t going to be a big spending team, except for Tex, which they’ve offered only 7/140. He’ll want much more than that.
A-Rod’s contract is ridiculous. That would’ve killed any team except for the Yankees.
and if the mets got arod last year where would they put him? lol
is there any new word on lowe and the mets?
and if the mets got arod last year where would they put him
really water under the bridge cause it didnt happen..
they could have gotten creative with the corners though.
and something else about manny…someone posted it earlier..phillies get ibanez…we have to show them we mean business..go out get manny…that pedro thing i was playing madden 09 so i wasnt thinking straight…get a SP and call it a day
I’m glad the Mets didn’t pursue A-Rod. Now they have a REAL chance to win a WS in the near future. No team with A-Rod on it will ever win a WS!*
*Just tweaking zen and biggie as I know what big A-Rod fans they are ; )
Case — If the O’s arent going to spend on a home town boy they might as well shut down and go home. They dont have the up and comers that the Rays have so it is unlikely they go that route to success.
Baltimore is a really decent market.. I think Angelos is still steamed about the Nats coming to town.. They went from a payroll of 95 mil in 07 to 67 mil in 08 .. I’m sure they could support a 125 mil payroll and be profitable in BWA.
enterkrod, the Phillies signing Ibanez wasn’t a big shot at the Mets, it was a good deal for the price.
If anything, the Mets should learn from the Phillies and make a good deal as well. Actually, if the OF market drops then the Philly deal will look bad if we are able to bring in Dunn or Manny for a bit more than Ibanez. We don’t need a big splash, we need a smart splash.
Maybe the smart move is sign Rivera on the cheap and come trade deadline, see if Oakland is selling on Holliday.
EASy VCarver — Im not an Arod fan per say.. Im a Met fan..
I want the best players in orange and blue to give us the best chance of winning. I think it’s more the collection of players than any one player that determines the performance.
To say A Rod is come cancer that will eat away any team and he will never win is a bit over the top. Time will tell. But I really dont care about him at this point as he aint playing in Flushing.
I think the 7/140 is spending big for the O’s, but for them to try to outspend the Angels or Red Sox will be a long shot.
You said you think Boras wants Tex to go to the O’s so they become another team that will spend on his other players. My point was that even if they do go all out on Tex, they won’t spend big on other players. Especially since they share the market with the Nats.
Maybe ur right though and they can spend $100M +
Case — right now the O’s are completely irrelevant. They are 4th or 5th dog in a five dog race.
Attendance must be down big time… If they added a hometown player like Tex it might get them back to relevancy– growing attendance and improving the numbers to the point that they make a run and nto be gun shy.
Just saying Boras would want to expand his universe of players and not just drive Tex to one of his existing relationships.
If Tex goest to the O’s it might give an opening to shake up our starting eight a bit.
who would you guys rather have on your team..lowe or burnett?
one player or a collection of players does not a team make
and it doesnt bring you a title
and on the thought of manny, if it was between giving manny 20+ a year that hes looking for or using that 20+ to go get two starters who eat innings. I can tell ya itd be a easy choice for me on which way id go.
enterkrod, JOHAN SANTANA
BiggieSmalls is the illest!
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I would take santana anyday
If we get Manny, I can’t wait to see all the faces of all his proponents when we DON’T win the world series, which is hardly guaranteed. I mean c’mon, if and when we don’t win the world series next year (not like i don’t want to) you’ll all be saying, “how could Omar waste money on Manny! we needed pitching! blah blah blah” Same thing every year.
Sorry, biggie. I misunderstood you last winter then. The way you were campaigning for the Mets to sign A-Rod, I mistook you for a big A-Rod fan.
I also want the players that will give the Mets the best chance to win (within a reasonable budget). We just may disagree on how to go about it.
A-Rod is not a cancer in the sense he spreads ill will. But I think for a variety of reasons he’s a magnet for controversy and the type of attention and focus that tends to distract from a winning team chemistry.
I officialy name Mets fans the smartest fans in the Major Leagues
Word–
Ill tell ya I was wrong about the Mets getting A Rod last year but one thing I was right about..
That this as constructed had a cloud over it’s head all last year. It needed a big time shakeup last year and needs one FOR SURE this year..
If Omar thinks he is all set with his starting 8 he is dillusional.
He needs to shake up 3 position players..
Get rid of Delgado and use Murph at First
Put Manny in Left
Dump Castillo
and shake up the catching situation.
All this stench needs to be aired out if this team has any prayer of winning big in 09.. said the same thing last year.
awesome lets put manny and his attrocious defensive abilities in left on a team loaded with fly ball pitchers.
how do you all propose we dump castillo?
manny will not solve all the mets woes and he isnt or shouldnt be towards the top of the priorities list.
VC — I think our sense of a reasonable budget was the big difference..
I think the Wilpon’s should be far more aggressive over the past 5 years in adding players without giving a dam about the Yankees or Red Sox or who ever else thinks what we spend…
This team in this market should support a payroll that approaches the luxury tax every year. Not saying go wildly over it but spend smartly to put the best product on the field..
If we get lowe will we be better
Biggie, the Mets did approach the luxury tax threshold in 2008. Not only that, they spent more than the Red Sox, contrary to your perception.
What more do you want? To be more irresponsible than the Yankees even though they aren’t subsidized by the taxpayers at the same rate the Yankees are?
dieselpi — last year we trotted out infielders in left all year and started the season hoping for a 40 plus year old gimp to cover it..
Beltran has a gold glove and Church is pretty good.. shade over and cover for Manny..
Dump castillo for a empanada truck.. who cares.. The Sox are considering writing off bucks on Lowell without regard.. Castillo doesnt make THAT much in the grand scheme of things. Big market team should be able to eat a mistake every now and then.
Get creative with trading Delgado and a prospect or two for some starters .. The payroll should be 150ish.. not 130ish..
no suggestions on my question
ok then
heres what id prefer to see the mets try and do
manny would run you a minimum of 20-25 mill and is a liability in the field, id rather see the mets sign lowe and perez two guys who combined will eat about 400 innings and make the penn better by taxing them less.
then trade castillo and reed to kc for guillen which would put a guy that can give you 25 100 in left which is better than the situation at present, and free up second base to sign orlando hudson, which would make the infield defense lightyears better than with castillo who is often injured.
VCarver, beat me to it. The Mets actually went over by $2M last year. They spent $157M last year. The tax for next year is $162M. Guys must remember this is for the entire staff, not just the 25 man roster, which last year is reported at $137M.
Thresholds for luxury tax on team payrolls was set at $148 million for 2007, $155 million for 2008, $162 million in 2009, $170 million in 2010 and $178 million in 2011.
We added 20 some million last year to get us to 138 which was probably a little higher in LT Dollars but still the level is 162 in 2009 .. where do you think we will come in?
dieselpi, you’re adding close to $50M minus Castillo’s $6M gives you $44M. Mucho dinero!
you dont shade over to compensate manny
shading would mean beltran has to cover a few more steps
with manny in left beltran has to cover half the position
case,
no doubt it would be a lot
but in any case it will cost the mets a lot to fill their holes
if you pay manny what hes asking and sign lowe you will still end up spending 30ish million dollars, id rather see the team use 30 for fill 3 holes than 2
If you say we spent 157 last year Ill take your word for it.. But that sounds a bit high.
Hey.. if we HAVE To go a bit over the LT limit so be it.. The SOx went over a few years ago to win the WS.
This team and town can afford it if the Wilpon’s weren’t working on investing in ponzi schemes to earn returns and were focused on growing the franchise to earn returns..
low blow but so what. Spend over slot for players and put a few extra sheckels into the product on the field instead of into scam hedge funds.
yes the wilpons were more focused on investing in a “scheme” than the team… ill say it again guys
can we please stick to baseball and not the finance stuff that the media throws out at us? unless some of us have finance doctorates….
At a minimum I’m expecting:
SP1 – $12M (Perez/Sheets/Lowe)
SP2 – <$6M (Marquis/Johnson/Pedro)
LF – $4M (Rivera)
By my calculation, the Mets luxury tax payroll in 2008 was roughly $150 million, which means they were right up against the threshold with just a couple of million to spare.
I don’t want the Mets to become like the Yankees, spending blindly, excessively and unwisely with relatively little to show for their humongous investments. Sorry, but the Yankees are an example of how NOT to build a team.
Just spending money on the “best” players is not always the way to go and puts a team on the slippery slope toward a group of 24 big overpaid egos without the right esprit de corps needed for winning.
who do u guys think has a better season next year k rod or putz?
i think thats gonna be hard to determine…they are both going to want to prove they are worthy..i think its too hard to pick
Can we get a new thread please
putz will
putz, imo is more valuable to the bullpen then krod and therefore will get more important outs
if the teams biggest problem ends up being who will have a better season putz or krod…. thats a awesome situation to be in
:)
Almost game time. Gotta Go!
LETS GO G-MEN
if giants win..omar will sign manny..if they lose…omar will still sign manny but be in a bad mood while doing so
if the mets get manny who has a better season manny or d wright
david wright
manny
I think they would both have a good season
overall offense and defense?
wright without question
d wright has a better season due to the fact that manny is in the lineup every game with him
Who do you guys like better reyes or wright?
reyes
Wright
reyes
i cant choose one over the other..they are both great
We should sign Aaron Miles as our middle infield bench player.
just think about how much better wright would do if manny was in the lineup with him….he would have so much less pressure on him…he would be protected completely and he would have an MVP season…..OMAR PLEASEE!!!!!
Manny=playoffs
and once we are there we have a good enough team to win it all
if we get manny..and one starting pitcher..we will win..or i should say we should win
What would be better sign manny or d lowe and ollie
ollie and manny
or lowe and manny..i wouldnt want lowe and ollie…
lol..unless we can do like a buy two get one free..and get them all in a mets uniform
i like reyes because his fast but prefer wright because his a slugger
Sign Manny and Lowe/Ollie!
Enter k rod do you mind giving me your phone number so we can talk about mets during the offseason and season.if so post it
Enterkrod do you mind giving me your phone number so we can talk about mets during the offseason and season.if so post it
It would like just manny
“Who do I like better Wright or Reyes?”
I always liked Reyes slightly more then wright…but not by much!
We are never getting Manny… it’s not gonna happen, we should all just stop talking about it because Hank wants him and Jeff and Fred don’t so hes going to the Yankees and the Mets will get Juan Rivera
Who do you guys prefer beltran or delgado?
the mets will get manny!
lowe and ollie
or just manny?
simple two pitchers that eat inning make your penn better
pitching wins titles
end of story
TheChurchGoers, that’s probably what you said before the Mets got Johan too, right?
Hey Phil just be realistic
At this point I’ll take Juan Rivera, even- didn’t even think the Mets were going to spend the money on Rivera, let alone Manny.
i dont want ollie
We need to hear the Loudmouths on this one
Hannah Toia Are You Hungry For Some Chicken?
Oh o perze of course i want him
mets are going to get manny
I think we have to resign Ollie. We need another lefty in our rotation, makes us that much more dangerous, and he’s a strikeout guy.
What do u guys think about Sheets? Maybe we take a shot with him and forget Ollie.
vcarver: you got me on the smoltz innings.
i’d take him this year on a 1 year deal with incentives. guess i didn’t learn, but i would have to be as a extra not as the #2 or 3 they need
Enterkrod Do You Mind Giving Me Your Phone Number So We Cant Text About The Mets During The Season .If So Post It
OLLIE IS BETTER THAN SHEETS!
I think you sign Ollie, and then take a flier on Sheets, sign him to a 2 year deal, see if he’ll bite, and then forget the rest, stick with the offense we got, just pick up a good utility infielder. Everyone wants to diss on our offense, but pitching wins, and we have enough offense to get it done. We scored a bunch of runs last year, everyone just remembers a few games here and there where we didn’t and it was magnified. You can’t do anything about that. There’s no telling if Manny or whoever gets a hit in one of those games. So if you’re saying over the course of the year Manny will prove us with more offense, sure, I agree, but we already, over the course of the year, had a lot of offense.
i dont know you though…do you have a screen name or something…i dont feel comfortable puutting it up on here..you know?…so ill im you and give you it…and can you promise youre not some wierd stalker person?
good stuff darkstar
what about jake peavy?
the asking price is going to be too high on peavy plus he doesnt want to come to ny
sheets is NEVER healty
i thought so
unfortuantely peavy doesn’t have the guts to pitch in new york.
i would have done: f-mart, niese, evans + for him (just as good as what the cubs offered
Not 4 The Cost Of F-mart
yeah we need to keep f-mart especially since we wont be getting manram
yes that’s it, peavy doesn’t have the “guts” to pitch in NY, that’s why he doesn’t want to come here. I really hope you’re joking, but hey, maybe you are that NY-centric in your thinking. Some people just don’t like the big city, deal with it. Peavy has shown plenty of “guts” and I’m sure would be successful anywhere he pitched.
F-mart is 2 vauable to us
imagine if we did get manny tho… oh wait why should its never gonna happen anyway
Yeah peavy doesnt have the guts to come to the mets
Peavy may not wanna come here but that doesn’t mean the mets can’t get a Peavy pitcher via trade. I would include F-Mart to do so .
Wilpons our too cheap to sign a Manny for the outfield. Church is a liability and Tatis is not an everyday player anymore.
F-Mart might be needed for a position player
ChurchGoers, I don’t understand why you are so negative on Manny. There is definitely a chance we could sign him. All you have to do is analyze the marketplace. The Red Soxs obviously are out. The Yankees have a surplus of corner outfielders already. Plus, don’t they need a center fielder? Is the Mike Cameron trade still on? Any way you arrange it, one of them already would be regulated to DH. There is no fit for Manny. The Dodgers seem to be growing more and more frustrated by the day. I could totally see them getting fed up with Boras’ antics and moving on. They probably are already figuring out their plans of life after Manny as we speak. Maybe the Angels, if they lose out on Texieria? That would seem like the most logical competition. Although, GM Tony Reagins has publicly stated that they have another direction in place instead of Manny if that occurrence were to arise. According to plans, they’d be going for Burrell and Giambi.
So, ChurchGoers, I’ll ask you. What big market team does that leave for Manny to sign with?
I’ve been reading all threads and it’s come to my attention that every single one has at least a small discussion on getting Manny. I think us Met fans have become obsessed with him…
During the season, when he was available via trade, I was dead set against it. Now – I’m not so sure…
Think it’s all gonna depend on how the rest of the SP
works out. As many have commented, we don’t have an unlimited ceiling on salaries here. Think that distinction will always be reserved only for the Yankees….
i know..the NEW YORK METS
Brye65, F-mart Has Too Much Potential
i guess chicago isn’t a big city darkstar. peavy was more than happy to go there. he’s afraid to pitch in nyc. period.
ooo, big bad zen, calling out Peavy, big man that zen is. Whatever Peavy doesn’t want to deal with in NY (and there’s a lot of BS that surrounds baseball in NY I wouldn’t want to deal with either) its his call. But you seemingly calling him out seems so childish, like you are a bigger man or something, capable of calling him out on that. It’s his personal choice, just like its your choice to be a big-headed NY’er who thinks pitching in NY makes you big and bad and have “guts.”
Hi Nick
Who else thinks this is a good idea? Platoon Tatis and Murphy at 2nd base, since they’re both natural IF. Then sign Manny and put him in left.
darkstar
now im not siding with zen or anything…but you do need to have a type of attitude in order to play this game…i mean k-rod said it himself…look at the angels and their fans..they were more relaxed..while the mets fans and yankees fans for that matter are nuts…you do need ice running through your veins..however i have never seen peavy pitch a lot so i wouldnt know what he likes..so it really doesnt matter period..
So if it’s Zen’s choice than why are u calling him out for speaking his mind about Peavy?
Darkstar?
and i meant to play this game in new york
piazza is god, definately. but i would still try to move castillo and sign or trade for a 2b. if there was any way, i would try to get that message to the front office because it would be killling 2 birds with one stone!
because I like to have fun with zen, and other people around here who make blanket statements like that. Peavy doesn’t want to play in NY, therefore Peavy has no guts. It’s just funny to me.
well i mean what would you call it if this was the case?
peavy in the playoffs:
0-2 12.11era 9.2ip 19h 13r
mental midget.
Hey zen, what do you do for a living buddy? Something’s gotta make you feel like you’re superior to Jake Peavy, calling a guy a mental midget for 2 games he pitched in the postseason. Great statistical analysis there buddy.
bro. you take this too seriously.
i’m joking
zen, this is really, really weak and thin ice you are on….Peavy is a mental midget based on TWO postseason starts totalling 9 innings? Randy Johnson didn’t do that well in his Mariner postseason starts and was unhittable for the DBacks in the postseason later in his career. Derek Lowe got SHELLED in the 2003 postseason before his excellent 2004.
I agree with those who state that Peavy—while probably unobtainable–would be even better than Manny or Tex and we wouldn’t need to do one other thing is we had Peavy as our number two starter between Johan and Pelfrey.
Johan, Peavy, KRod and Putz? That’s championship material.
man, not having a new threat is making some of you go nuts.
The Giants inability to run is driving me nuts.
I think Peavy is a great pitcher but his home away splits are pretty extreme, I’m not sure he’s quite as good as a lot of people think, or if he’d be worth what we’d have to give up for him. I’d just as soon sign Sheets or Lowe and keep our prospects.
randy johnson was unhittable for the mariners in 1995 and helped knocked out the yanks.
peavy was crushed in the wbc too. soft.
mental midget was too far. just too scared to pitch in nyc. it’s cool. it’s his right. and it’s mine to say he’s afraid.
meant to write *thread*
The GMen will pull it out, just like they did against Pittsburgh….and just like the 9–5 Dolphins did today!
giants are looking like crap right now
Maybe he doesn’t want to come to new york because of the obnoxious media/some of the fans? I’m not sure if I was a player I’d want to play here either, especially since we’re not exactly raking in championships. What’s the incentive to want to come here when you can go somewhere else and have the same chance to win without the extra crap?
i think casestreet is right…without any new news..everyone is getting angry..i think it was a bad idea to bring up peavy..lol
9-5 Dolphins, that must eel like saying “World Series Champions New York Mets”
*feel*
lets go gmen
Actually, it is getting harder to remember what saying “World Series Champion Mets” feels like, but after 1–15, 9–5 sounds pretty good!
Parcells really is some sort of football genius. If we can win next week and the Jets do too, that game in 2 weeks will really be something…..
I concur with darkstar
you know..i cant see tex becoming a yankee
tony romo is a really really big homo
enterkrod, you must be one too since you emphasized how BIG he is. lol
lol..i was first reading that and i was like ohhh that mother..and then i realized you were messing..not cool..lol
enterkrod :o Romo is a homo? what’s that supposed to mean?
it means that i dont like him so he is a homo..along with everyone else i dont like..such as the skankees
:o so who ever you don’t like is gay? i’ll make sure to stay on your good side for the sake of my sexuality lol
haha..alright..lol..yeah so make sure no one crosses me..lol…
you know guys and maybe girls? i really wish matt would post some updated news..but i have a feeling that its gonna be a quiet week or two until after christmas..you think so?
why are we talking about the giants and dolphins here?
yeah i think it will be quiet here this week, so i hope matt finds a way to keep us occupied. Fake rumors are welcomed too.
haha..hell yeah..rumors are great unless somewhere this week they have the rumor of mets getting manny..haha..that wouldnt be cool
and diesel
i think we are talking giants and dolphins because again there arent any new posts and i think everyone is drained from talking about manny/peavy/byrnes/phillies/yankees/lowe/perez/pedro/and everyone else
Who do you guys like more pelfrey or maine?
i’m half and half on Manny; he’s a great player, but he’s a very expensive clown to add to the circus…
NtNYM3 lol dude every post you make you’re asking us questions…are you interviewing the whole mets fan base?
anyways, i like Pelfrey because he can actually pitch 200 innings :)
if you ask enterkrod, he’ll say Pelf because he’s BIG. lol just messing with you krod
i loved what i saw from pelfrey last year…i think i give the edge to pelfrey..you know im starting to feel like the dodgers..if we get him good if not..im not gonna go nuts..we do have a good offense..its more the fact that it is possible to get him.
haha..hey case..thats funny..especially since i picked him..hahahaha..lol..crap..ok i change my mind..i choose maine now
you guys like maine or pelfrey better?
one score game
we need a quick stop..or a turnover
cant let that happen on 2nd and 20…god..its crunch time now
Peavy’s agent, Barry Axelrod, said in a recent interview with SI.com that his client has some good feelings about the Yankees. “What kid doesn’t grow up dreaming of wearing the pinstripes?” Axelrod said. Yet, for geographic reasons the Yankees remain below the five NL teams on Peavy’s list
i was wrong. he just doesn’t want to pitch for the mets. it’s not new york. he just thinks poorly of the ny mets.
zen actually admits he was wrong…that takes some courage..lol..just messing around..haha..maybe he can have a change of heart?
now the game is over…son of a b****
game over
hey case and pelfrey..i have bad news…everyone in that stadium cheering for the boys and all the players are all really big homos
krod, everything in Texas is BIG
lol..yea you right..lol
including those cheerleaders….ohhhhh me likey
I love Ollie, but I hope he shows us some loyalty during negotiations and expresses that he wants to come back. Maybe, we can a hometown discount given how we resurrected his career. That would do wonders for us in our attempt to sign Manny. I wish that Ollie is reasonable in all of this. I can’t justify handing 12 million dollars over to a guy who led the league in walks. I mean, it just isn’t logical. There has to be some kind of satisfying medium that is met. I know we are dealing with Boras, but some things are non-debatable. That Carlos Silva signing with the Mariners really ruined the days of reasonable contracts for pitchers.
Who do you like better beltran or delgado
lol..i like beltran…but i like 2nd half delgado more
Philnym31, i definetly agree
I wonder if Boras will give the Mets his binder on Perez to try and convince them he’s worth it.
Not only did the Giants not win, they still haven’t clinched a bye, and there’s the ever looming possiblity that they won’t get one.
Have to beat the Panthers next week, no exceptions.
delgados 11 mill and wagners 10.5 mill comes off teh books for the 2010 season so thats 21.5 mill that can be paid to manny they jsut gota deal with going over budget this season just this 1 time than after this season his contract will be within our budget
just call him and boras and sit down with them and say we need your bat to take us to that next step and we want you to reach 700 home runs in a met uniform we’ll present you a 3 yr contract and hope you retire a met
Over at Rotoauthority.com they list Bill James projections for “some interesting starters they project to post an ERA under 4.00 in 2009.” To say the least they are quite interesting.
• Barry Zito – 3.94
• Tim Wakefield – 3.91
• Jonathan Sanchez – 3.90
• Jorge Campillo – 3.86
• Pedro Martinez – 3.36
• Phil Hughes – 3.35
“Hughes may be the Yankees’ sixth starter heading into 2009, but they have him third in ERA in the American League. How do they think he’ll pull this off? With an 8.8 K/9, 3.3 BB/9, 0.65 HR/9, and 7.92 H/9. Hughes has not demonstrated those skills in his 106.2 big league innings.”
I’m not sure Sanchez and Campillo are really that surprising. Pedro’s projections are always skewed because of how insanely dominant he was in his prime, projects usually are inaccurate for the very young and the very old. That’s probably why Wakefield numbers are weird too. I’m not sure about Hughes though, and are Zito’s projections as a starter or a reliever?
Dont sign Lowe. Hes too old and too expensive!
Help eachother dump salaries by trading Castillo to the Dodgers for Jones or Pierre
Sign O-Dawg!
Sign Ivan Rodriguiz abd some how get rid of Shcneider (they signed him for defense and Rodriguiz is a far better defensive and offensive player with heart) “a better LoDuca”
Dont sign Kawaksami if it long or expensive (look at Saito if the price is right instead)
Jump on a free agent starter quick if you arnt’t going to make a trade Omar
Look at the less epensive alternative of Sheets Garland Ollie Garcia or Cabrea
Very Important!!!!!!
We only have one lefty out of the pen (Feliciano)
Sign one last good lefty to secure bullpen
Sign Beimel!!! if he can not be hand, give Al Reyes a shot
Sign Derreck Turnbow to a Minor League Deal
I heard someone say they are sick of hearing about how hard DWright is working. That person or those people are idiots. David Wright is the best type of player there is out there. I wish we had 25 David Wrights. I’m so sick of it. He wants nothing but to win a championship as is willing to do whatever it takes to do so. If you have a problem is DW, you have a problem with yourself.