Comments on: Minors: Hyde on Prospects, BA’s Mets Top 10 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/19/minors-hyde-on-prospects-bas-mets-top-10/ Latest Mets News, Links, Rumors and Opinion Fri, 04 Feb 2011 21:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: gomets6091 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/19/minors-hyde-on-prospects-bas-mets-top-10/#comment-413049 gomets6091 Sat, 20 Dec 2008 04:21:02 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/19/emailbag-toby-hyde-on-marte-flores-and-holt/#comment-413049 I can't believe people are questioning Martinez's development. Here's some stats for you: In 2002, a 19 year old Jose Reyes put up a .287/.326/.425/.751 line in 275 AA at-bats (and a .269/.331/.356/.687 line in 160 AAA at-bats). The next year he put up a .307/.334/.434/.768 in 274 MLB at-bats. In 2003, as a 20 year old, David Wright put up a .270/.368/.459/.827 in 466 A+ at-bats. The next year he put up a .293/.332/.525/.857 in 263 MLB at-bats last year, a 19 year old F-Mart put up a .287/.340/.432/.772 line in 352 AA at-bats Now, the argument can certainly be made that Martinez had a more impressive season than either Reyes or Wright’s last full years in the minors (when you factor in that he was a year younger and in a higher league than Wright). I’m not saying that it’s proof that he can give the Mets rookie of the year type numbers next year, as both Reyes and Wright did, but we shouldn’t be so quick to count him out either. I can’t believe people are questioning Martinez’s development. Here’s some stats for you:

In 2002, a 19 year old Jose Reyes put up a .287/.326/.425/.751 line in 275 AA at-bats (and a .269/.331/.356/.687 line in 160 AAA at-bats). The next year he put up a .307/.334/.434/.768 in 274 MLB at-bats.

In 2003, as a 20 year old, David Wright put up a .270/.368/.459/.827 in 466 A+ at-bats. The next year he put up a .293/.332/.525/.857 in 263 MLB at-bats

last year, a 19 year old F-Mart put up a .287/.340/.432/.772 line in 352 AA at-bats

Now, the argument can certainly be made that Martinez had a more impressive season than either Reyes or Wright’s last full years in the minors (when you factor in that he was a year younger and in a higher league than Wright). I’m not saying that it’s proof that he can give the Mets rookie of the year type numbers next year, as both Reyes and Wright did, but we shouldn’t be so quick to count him out either.

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]]> By: Wanny Backstra http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/19/minors-hyde-on-prospects-bas-mets-top-10/#comment-412967 Wanny Backstra Fri, 19 Dec 2008 22:28:44 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/19/emailbag-toby-hyde-on-marte-flores-and-holt/#comment-412967 1. There's no way Sheffield was ever good enough to trade players like Wright and Reyes for him. At his best, Sheffield was David Wright, only playing a corner outfield spot instead of 3B. 2. Trading one headache for two does not seem like a very good idea. Willis has been atrocious for several years now. Castillo is young enough to bounce back and be serviceable. Sheffield couldn't even play the field last year. 1. There’s no way Sheffield was ever good enough to trade players like Wright and Reyes for him. At his best, Sheffield was David Wright, only playing a corner outfield spot instead of 3B.

2. Trading one headache for two does not seem like a very good idea. Willis has been atrocious for several years now. Castillo is young enough to bounce back and be serviceable. Sheffield couldn’t even play the field last year.

]]> By: randytate http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/19/minors-hyde-on-prospects-bas-mets-top-10/#comment-412919 randytate Fri, 19 Dec 2008 21:23:26 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/19/emailbag-toby-hyde-on-marte-flores-and-holt/#comment-412919 We can thank Tom Glavine for Mets having Brad Holt. He was a compensation pick for Glavine leaving. We can thank Tom Glavine for Mets having Brad Holt. He was a compensation pick for Glavine leaving.

]]> By: iso http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/19/minors-hyde-on-prospects-bas-mets-top-10/#comment-412864 iso Fri, 19 Dec 2008 20:31:56 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/19/emailbag-toby-hyde-on-marte-flores-and-holt/#comment-412864 if Willis didn't stick and Sheffield was in his prime, you would be giving away Wright or Reyes and then some... at least Willis or Sheffield have an upside, Castillo is just terrible. if Willis didn’t stick and Sheffield was in his prime, you would be giving away Wright or Reyes and then some…

at least Willis or Sheffield have an upside, Castillo is just terrible.

]]> By: MudvilleNine http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/19/minors-hyde-on-prospects-bas-mets-top-10/#comment-412853 MudvilleNine Fri, 19 Dec 2008 20:22:56 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/19/emailbag-toby-hyde-on-marte-flores-and-holt/#comment-412853 Size didnt seem to bother Ryne Sandberg or Jeff Kent. Size didnt seem to bother Ryne Sandberg or Jeff Kent.

]]> By: Nate W. http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/19/minors-hyde-on-prospects-bas-mets-top-10/#comment-412843 Nate W. Fri, 19 Dec 2008 20:00:24 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/19/emailbag-toby-hyde-on-marte-flores-and-holt/#comment-412843 read the Hyde - Goldstien interview on the minor league blog. They go into detail on Ike Davis. I think its in part 1 or 2. read the Hyde – Goldstien interview on the minor league blog. They go into detail on Ike Davis. I think its in part 1 or 2.

]]> By: Wanny Backstra http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/19/minors-hyde-on-prospects-bas-mets-top-10/#comment-412840 Wanny Backstra Fri, 19 Dec 2008 19:52:29 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/19/emailbag-toby-hyde-on-marte-flores-and-holt/#comment-412840 Thames would be a great 4th outfielder and backup first baseman for the Mets. He'll hit for power at two positions that require some protection. As someone said earlier re: Rivera (was it TRS?), it's never bad to have three wild card as opposed to two. Of course, Castillo is not going to get it done. But two midlevel prospects should get the job done. Thames would be a great 4th outfielder and backup first baseman for the Mets. He’ll hit for power at two positions that require some protection. As someone said earlier re: Rivera (was it TRS?), it’s never bad to have three wild card as opposed to two.

Of course, Castillo is not going to get it done. But two midlevel prospects should get the job done.

]]> By: Wanny Backstra http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/19/minors-hyde-on-prospects-bas-mets-top-10/#comment-412837 Wanny Backstra Fri, 19 Dec 2008 19:49:17 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/19/emailbag-toby-hyde-on-marte-flores-and-holt/#comment-412837 if Willis didn't stink and Sheffield wasn't an old and injured defensive liability, I'd be all for giving Castillo away. if Willis didn’t stink and Sheffield wasn’t an old and injured defensive liability, I’d be all for giving Castillo away.

]]> By: Gina http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/19/minors-hyde-on-prospects-bas-mets-top-10/#comment-412832 Gina Fri, 19 Dec 2008 19:42:17 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/12/19/emailbag-toby-hyde-on-marte-flores-and-holt/#comment-412832 Murphy's 23, there's not much chance he'll fill out more. He's basically a finished prospect offensively the areas where he could be expected to make significant improvements would probably be defense. Murphy’s 23, there’s not much chance he’ll fill out more. He’s basically a finished prospect offensively the areas where he could be expected to make significant improvements would probably be defense.

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