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In his latest report for SI.com, Jon Heyman describes Omar Minaya’s chances of re-signing Oliver Perez as ‘remote.’
According to Heyman, ‘The Mets and Boras seem far apart,’ while the Brewers, Dodgers, Reds and Mariners are seen as ‘potential suitors for Perez.’
Heyman previously said on WFAN that Perez had been seeking a five-year, $70 million contract.
Meanwhile, free-agent LHP Randy Wolf is seeking a three-year, $30 million deal, reports Ken Rosenthal at FoxSports.com.
That said, Heyman believes Derek Lowe has been – and continues to be – the Mets ‘first choice,’ noting that they ‘love his consistency and durability.’
However, Heyman explains, the Red Sox and Yankees remain an option for Lowe, who could also draw interest from the Cubs, and Braves, who offered A.J. Burnett a five-year deal.
By the way, Rosenthal says the Braves are not interested in Lowe.
Speaking of starting pitchers…
The Giants are working to sign free-agent LHP Randy Johnson to a one-year deal, according to the San Francisco Chronicle.
The New York Post believes Andy Pettitte wants to return to the Yankees, who offered him a one-year, $10 million contract.
Speaking of the Yankees, Joel Sherman of the New York Post believes they have no interest in Ben Sheets.
…well, if pettitte goes back, how many starting pitchers do they need…i’m thinking pettitte, CC Sabathia, A.J. Burnett, Chien-Ming Wang and Phil Hughes or Joba Chamberlain is probably enough…
…or, is it never enough in the Bronx…
Lastly, in case you’re interested, Heyman also reports on the messy situation between the Dodgers, Braves and Rafael Furcal; whether Zack Grienke is available; the outfield market, including Jermaine Dye; teams who like Brian Fuentes; and the state of the Mike Cameron deal.
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Pettitte can definitely get a 2-3 year contract somewhere. He shouldn’t resign if that’s all the Yankees are offering.
“five-year, $70 million contract”
IS BORAS SMOKING SOMETHING JAPANESE!!!
Sign Lowe AND Wolf. That’s a good rotation and you still get 2 picks for Ollie and only give up a 2nd round for Lowe. That’s a good deal.
Lowe, 3/50
Wolf 2/20 or 3/24.
That whole Furcal to the Braves, then to the Dodgers thing is pretty interesting. I wonder if we’ll ever learn the full truth.
Guys what about signing Garland and Wolf and then spending the extra money on offense?
Can’t blame Boras on that one, Burnett got 5 years, and ollie has never been injured big-time. I wouldn’t give it to him, I’m just saying.
Yea, that Furcal mess is hilarious. I guess its better he’s not on the Braves, b/c if so, they could’ve moved someone for SP.
TRS86, is that really Wolf’s market value? I was hoping he’d be cheaper based on his ‘08 salary, which I think was just under $5 mil. I was hoping maybe for a 2/13 with an option making it 3/21 (broken down 6/7/8), perhaps I’m being unrealistic.
I was thinking 3/24 or 2/20 was his market all along.
TRS:
if we get manny then i wouldn’t mind, becoz with those 2 we may need 10 runs a game..
Clearly you a$$essed it better than I did. Kudos.
what will break up this logjam and get the deals flowing again?
I’m jonsin for some meat and patata’s overhere.
Brian Fuentes…remember that scrub? lol
I think Tex is gonna be the next one to sign, and then who knows about the pitchers, I can see it dragging into January easy.
Boston Globe says Sox NOT interested in Tex after a face to face in Dallas!
Holy cow, now what!
(5) add in Wil Ohman and you might be competitive for a playoff spot.
The Yankees situation is basically to wait on Pettitte, but only so long as Sheets is still available. It’s one of the other, not both.
steadyeddie,
he goes back to LA
Wolf actually ended up making over $8M after hitting his incentives….there is no way the Mets are signing two of Lowe, Perez, Wolf & Garland….it will be one of those and a Tim Redding type for $2M or so….they have around $18M to spend….offensive and bullpen additions would come via trade
chances are…remote.
Steadyeddie,
It will be the new year. The holidays will make everything grind to a halt like it is. This is typical after the winter meetings.
I don’t think Ollie gets 70 million. I think he gets a 4 year 56 mil contract.
I’m really close to doing a complete about face and say just go get Lowe. The only combination of 2 SP’s i like out there are Ollie and Garland. I am starting to think that isn’t happening. Sheets isn’t coming either.
So if you can get Lowe, unless it’s 17-18 mil a year go get him. Give him 3 at 50. Then sign a Vet to fill in the 5th spot and compete with Neise.
Any interest in Tex now that Boston is outta there? He wants East Coast, and a winner. Only Yankees and Mets left that fit that mold.
if i have to pick one met to be top 3 MVP this year, i think he mature a lot under manuel and now he realize that this team goes as he goes, he will have a monster year becoz he’s already training for the WBC and that can help him to have a hot start.. i see us having 3 players in the MVP voting this year again, but this year i think #7 will be.. THE MVP.. that’s my second BOLD prediction..
The real,
I do not see the mets signing both Wolf and Garland for the simple fact that bot guys are mid to bottom of the rotation guys, but both are consistent enough to be every day guys and the mets are really looking for the type of pitcher who has to fight with Niese for a spot in the rotation in the 5 spot. One or the other. Regardless, I think these guys are plan B if Lowe can’t be had or the asking price (years mostly is probably the hang up) for Ollie does not go down.
The thing with either of those guys (wolf/ Garland), It does leave space in the budget to bring in another bat.
I’m not sure Dye is a practical option any more for the Mets because we already used our best trading chits to get Putz so I keep going back to Dunn myself since Manny seems to be of no interest to the mets and Dunn can play 1st after Delgado walks.
Still, not that I like him as a player that much, Abreu is the Minaya’s type of player. He is more well rounded then Dunn but not nearly as cluch and w/o the consistent power
Yea, I was surprised to hear about the Tex to Boston falling through. I actually think he wanted to play for them, but sounds like he has a bigger offer, but I think its only bigger in years not so much $$ per year, which is interesting.
I wanna see Manny sign with the Yanks, just so I can watch him torment the Sox in fenway.
Alex, sorry slow to respond.
But name a #5 starter in the NL right NOW that’s better than Wolf/Garland?
They would both have under 5.00 ERA’s. Not too many #5’s that you can say that about. Not to mention that they both had more quality starts than Oliver Perez last year.
Strarz 31:
the mets will play in boston this year, he can torment them with the mets as well.. ;-)
The thing with Tex to the Sox might not be over yet. With the Yankee’s and the Sox both saying they are out that gives more leverage to the Angels. Interesting situations to come here in the next month.
TRS:
Yeah, i was wondering what happened to you, well based on LAST year’s numbers i agree, but with that said we don’t know what will happen to neither of them, don’t forget wolff is oft injure and might not even make it trough the whole season..
I’d sign Lowe to three years and whatever he wanted per year. Whats 1-2 extra mil a year (easy to say isn’t it) but then you’re not committed to 4 years. 13-15 mil over 4 years for Ollie (he’s not gonan take less than 4) or just pay 16-18 mil a season for 3 years….Thats not that big of a stranglehold on the team.
Kalihan, I see it differently. IF the Mets get Perez or Lowe then they will go with a Redding type. However, if they are shut out on those 2 I see them going with Garland and then Wolf on a short term contract. It’s not like Niese would not still get some starts. Also, Wolf would be a very attractive trade piece in July on a 1.5 year contract.
Mr Alex, correct me if I’m wrong, but your previous prediction was a BALD prediction, al a Barry Bonds head.
(Just kiddin’ dude, merry Christmas!
but I did get a kick outta that typo!)
Yea I know Alex, I live in boston and I can’t wait for that series.
I would like Manny, I just have no expectations of us getting him, so with that, I’d like to see him torment the Sox from the Yankees…(I kinda dislike the sox )
(16) I get the same impression about the plays for one starter.
Its worked so well with Limatime the last three years, might as well rack up another 5th starter du jour menu for ‘09.
I think they need two, but will sign one and it will be thier downfall.
I envision Omar Minaya playing a game of whack-a-mole. Every offseason he addresses one need while letting another one pop up unaddressed.
Hopefully Pelfrey, Maine, and Niese all come through, otherwise next offseason they will have about four ‘moles’ to whack.
Alex, that is why he is perfect for the Niese spot. If he is healthy then you get close to 200 quality innings for cheap. If not then you got Niese to step in. I would rather have a guy like Penny but there is one thing that Wolf has, a left hand that he can throw with.
starz:
after the way the portrayed manny, the way they treated pedro, and are now trying to get rid of big papi i do too.. as an organitazion they’re starting to act jerk-ish..
starz,
so you mean to tell me you would not mind tormenting the red sox via yankee success?? Sorry man, i dont want yankee success, and with Manny, they will be a pretty hard team to beat.
TRS:
why not then garland AND sheets then.. is the same and you get a better pitcher than lowe when healthy..
I think if Omar signs Lowe, #5 would be someone cheaper and short term like Garcia. Although Lowe and Wolf would be great, but Lowe and Garcia/Niese wouldn’t be too bad either.
(30) “I envision Omar Minaya playing a game of whack-a-mole. Every offseason he addresses one need while letting another one pop up unaddressed.”
That is not that far off…We got Johan last year, and Omar said “jobs done” while just sugarcoating everything else with Johan.
Randy Wolf at 3 for 30 is way too high…
don’t care if he’s left handed, he’s not good and 3 years at 10 mil a year is ridiculous
Sign Lowe at 3 years 45-51 and sign Pedro/Mulder/Penny on a 1 year incentive-laden deal and if the dont work out, Niese or Figueroa gets the spot
I know NYMEts…it is a very weird position. But when I’m up here, I look at it more as NY vs Boston, not so much the yankees vs boston. I wasn’t up here during the sox’ struggles(been here since 2004) so all I’ve seen is red sox success..and its made me very bitter. I blame the bandwagon fans actually.
starz,
this is what you do when boston fans up there mouth, all you have to do is say one small thing to shut them up…
18-1
Oleo, stop mentioning Pedro please. He is terrible now. Done.
And Alex, as much as I like Sheets I don’t see the Mets doing it. So if I had to pick between the Mets signing Garland and Wolf or Garland and Redding I think I would pick Wolf. LOL.
Being a Jets fan (obviously hate the patriots), that was a great moment in NFL history.lol. I loved every minute of it…and the streets here were packed with thousands of riot cops…all with nothing to do, b/c everyone was inside crying.
trs
Niese is left-handed. I’d rather watch him possibly struggle then pay 10 million a year for a mediocre Randy Wolf, whom by the way, pitched his first full season since 2003!!!
TRS:
lol, agree i guess.. i’m mad about that..
718:
to believe if my team finish with a 18-1 i’d call it a great year…
oleo,
I agree. Wolf at 10 mil per year is too much. That’s why I think it’ll be Lowe and short term and less expensive guys like Garcia or Mulder, etc..
btw, I really would like to see Omar sign Prior to a short term deal
starz,
inside crying and making excuses and calling us lucky i know. But your right, Boston fans are just like philly fans, you dont see them or know they exist until their teams start winning. Then you cant shut them up cause they wont stop blabing
yeah i dont see sheets happening, I havent heard the mets mentioned once in regards to him…my gut tells me the Lowe thing is going to work itself out, and then they will pick up “I have no idea who” to compete with niese for #5…And I hope Niese is practicig his butt off this offseason, because if he gets his 2nd and 3rd pitches down, he is going to be the real deal….did you guys see his curve ball, my lord…problem was it was the only pitch he used, so the 2nd or 3rd time through the lineup they caught up and started clocking him…
I wish the Mets would stop being so darn cheap, you had 35 million + come off the payroll and the only contract you added was a bargain at more 12 mil a year. Now, I know getting the superstars does not guarantee success, but getting enough of them give you a better chance.
I still don’t think Wolf will cost 3/30 however. I think 2/20 or 3/24 gets it done for sure. All of these guys at this point take at least 2 million a year off what they are asking for.
The real,
I see your point,
I have a feeling if they brought in Woldf though they would hold onto him since he is lefty and there are some top heavy lefty lineups in the NL East.
You may be right but I have a feeling the Mets sign one legitimate rotation guy and one guy that they can send to the minors if need be. Kind of the Tony Armas sort of player. I think ultimately Minaya wants to tweek the line-up a little and signing two pitchers for a total of 18-20 mill a year might prohibit it a bit. Not saying this is the plan I WANT Minaya to go with, just the one I think he MIGHT go with.
I guess well see in amonth or so.
I would love Sheets in the #5 slot. If he is himself and stays HEALTHY he is a flat-out steal in the #5 slot. I said last year that you need a #2,#3 in the back of the rotation, last year I wanted Blanton, who is good and way MORE durable than Sheets. But, he doesn’t have Sheets stuff. If Sheets make 25 quality (in terms of health) starts the Mets would be way ahead of the game in that slot.
thereal,
if you think wolf will get 8-10 mill per year, (which i agree) then shouldn’t the Mets try and get Sheets, cause he is only gonna cost you around 10-12 mill per year. And the upside is tremendously larger.
I think Omar is up to soemthing, I think patience from us Met fans will do us justice in the next few weeks.
good point trs…i think you’re right…where ollie was thinking 14 per, he will probably only get 12ish….and I think i heard lowe as high as 18 at one point, but he probably will go for like 16..
Kalihan,
I agree with you that Omar will sign one legit guy like Lowe and sign cheap #5, spending around 22 mil. Even with that, I still think Omar will try to tweek offense via FA signing (non-major) or trades to get a catcher and an OF.
Unfortunately I agree with you Kalihan, one legit guy, and a 1/2 arse guy.
I think the Mets should have gotten AT LEAST get 1 legit Top Tier under 32 guy (Peavy, CC). Who knows how much a guy like Lowe has left in the tank?
Like we have Putz, K-Rod, we should have Santana and another #1 sitting in the #2 spot.
I hope so nymetsfan
trs
Randy Wolf at 8-10 mil a year is a rip off!!!!!!
he hasnt had an ERA under 4.23 since 2002.
Nelson Figueroa or John Niese can get an ERA under 5 and cost 1 million a year.
take that extra 9 million per year and sign Juan Rivera for LF and sign a guy like Aaron Miles to backup at 2nd and SS
Does anyone have any reliable market estimates for Sheets? Is he really going to settle somewhere with a 2 year, $30-38M contract?
If that is the truth, I can’t make an arguement that would convince me to not sign him. He just has too much upside to ignore. If you could get Sheets and Perez for $20-30M per year, and backload Perez’s deal some, I think you have to find out a way to do that.
3/30 isn’t bad. I’d rather pay between 6-10 p/y.
Oleo,
Keep Juan Rivera from my team, he’s the new Alex Ochoa.
I’d rather take a flyer on Milton Bradley staying healthy. Though I agree that Miles would be a good low cost option for 2nd base.
Sheet is not worth 15-19 mil w/ his health issues, more like 12-14 or 15 w/ incentives.
wade,
I wouldn’t be surprised if Brewers brings Sheets back. They were willing to spend money on CC and they need a solid SP. So they’ll be willing to give him extra year if that gets the job done.
kistics
I just wonder what trading chits we have left at this point that we are willing to part with…other than Castillo which I am convinced no one wants.
On the “log jam” mentioned earlier….I think about the only thing I miss about Steve Phillips as GM was hat he would make deal any time of the year. Didn’t Glavine sign on Christmas? Or was it thanksgiving? All I remember was that for better, or much more likely for worse, there was never a lull in the action with Phillip.
Vargas could have an ERA that low but I see no sign yet that Figgy or Niese could this year.
Kalihan,
I don’t think it’ll be major trading, it’ll most likely be Schneider or Castro. Or 2nd tier prospect perhaps. OR, it could be salary dump that the Mets can take from other teams.
TRS:
I can’t see why the Mets would be interested in Wolf but not Sheets. Both are huge injury risks (Wolf may actually be a bigger risk) but Sheets at least has the upside of a 1-2. Wolf, at his very best, is a 4. Wolf is a terrible risk. High risk/low reward. Until last season he hadn’t pitched more than 136 innings since 2003!! I could only consider Wolf for a short-term deal and if a real durab’e 2-3 type pitcher (Lowe) is brought in too.
Garland is another guy not worth paying to a long term deal. Jason Marquis would do what Garland does (eat average to below average major league innings) for a one year commitment and can be had for a song.
I am coming around to the idea of signing Lowe, like a lot of people on Metsblog. I think Omar is playing it right with Ollie– I wouldn’t pay him more than $50-$55 million over 4 years, and I don’t want to go 5 with him– he’s way too inconsistent. With Lowe, why not try and give him a higher salary for less years (given his age) and snag him with a 3 year deal worth $56 million, with a 4th year option that vests with certain #s of wins/appearences/whatever.
Then you can go get a veteran to compete with Niese for the #5 slot, like Garcia, or even Pedro (he might want to come back with his buddy Lowe on the team…)
I don’t think Pedro or Garcia go anywhere without a guaranteed MLB contract. Are you going to tell Pedro he has to compete with Jon Niese in spring training to make the team?
When Perez tanks with another team, i’ll laugh. Omar is smart to not go too high on him.
I’m surprised teams don’t bid with some wearyness on Ollie
Yeah and if the Mets and Perez are miles apart then all those other teams woill be as far apart from Perez’s demands or even further….
None of those teams will offer more than the Mets.
boras is selling perez like he’s some kind of amazing pitcher
juan rivera is signing a 3 yr deal with the angels
Perez and Boras are both insane.
He is a basket case who really has had it better here than he would anywhere else with any other organization.
Go chase the dollars and be a slave with Mr. Boras, see how far that gets you Ollie.