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Outfield: Jays talking Wells, Manny close to Yanks
By Matthew Cerrone - Dec 22, 2008 9:25 am

Jon Heyman of SI.com believes the Blue Jays have been fielding offers for OF Vernon Wells, though they are not necessarily shopping him.

According to Heyman, “The Blue Jays may have financial concerns,” and would consider trading B.J. Ryan or Wells, ‘though there’s no evidence they would entertain trading Roy Halladay.’

Wells hit .300 with 20 HR and 78 RBI with a .343 OBP in just 108 games last season, following a poor 2006 season, during which he just .245 in 149 games.

He will technically be paid just $1.5 million in 2009, while also receiving the final $8.5 million payment of an initial signing bonus, after which he will earn roughly $20 million per season through 2014, during which he has a full no-trade clause.

Speaking of outfielders…

According to Impacto Deportivo, the Yankees are close to signing Manny Ramirez to a three-year, $75 million contract, and could announce a deal either today or tomorrow.

However, Yankees GM Brian Cashman later told MLB.com that the above report is ‘not true.’

Lastly, the Boston Globe expects to eventually see rumors involving the Red Sox and D’Backs, and a deal that could send OF Eric Byrnes and C Miguel Montero to Boston.

65 Responses to “Outfield: Jays talking Wells, Manny close to Yanks”

  1. phukthephills says:

    I HATE THE YANKEES…I HOPE MANNY BLOWS THERE

    • nostradamus says:

      lol, manny will be GREAT wherever he lands. if he goes to the yanks, the mets will become even MORE of a second rate NYC team.

  2. atlantasnumber1metsfan says:

    I’ll be believe the Manny Reports when I see them….

  3. Kalihan42 says:

    ANyone have any idea what the blue Jays need/want for wells?

    • stickguy says:

      they probably “need” to get out from under one of the few contracts worse than Juan Pierre’s!

      They “want” prime talent back, hoping some other team is still under the delusion (that they were when he inked the deal) that he would be a PTP for at least another 5 years!

      5/100 for this guy? Plus trading players for him? Way, Way better idea to just sign Tex for 8/175! At least he is still good.

    • Slob says:

      With a contract like that they should be giving prospects away to the team taking Wells.

      • wnymetsfan says:

        Funny but true. The Jays would be better off waiting on Wells. If he has a big 1st half they would get morefor him in July than now

  4. phukthephills says:

    my friend who is a yankees fan told me about three years ago when manny was on the sox that he would never take manny on his team but he would take big papi……..i talked to him yesterday and he said he really wants manny…typical yankees fans

  5. Kalihan42 says:

    Aging player….large contract….seems like a typical Yankee move.

    • NYMETSFAN718 says:

      at least this ones a good move

    • Mookie Mouse says:

      The ball club is worth something like $1.3 billion, they are building the Taj Mahal of ball parks, and they draw 4 million plus and own NYC. They must be doing something right.

  6. tonym says:

    Wells has a terribly back-loaded contract, he has one od the worst deals in the game.

    Tex – Sox – Called it

    Manny to NYY – Called it

    Now Minaya just has to go and get Lowe, has to, the NYY will re-sign Pettitte. The Sox will probably not go after Lowe that hard.

    Minaya is waiting for Tex to go off and then he’ll strike. Not until after the holidays though, getting late now.

  7. haplo says:

    Who would Boston be giving up? I’d love for the Mets to get in on Montero. (if the D’Backs are trading catchers, then either Montero or Snyder).

    • Agees Catch says:

      IRod behind the plate on opening day. Bank on it.

      • haplo says:

        Blecch. The Mets need to get less creaky.

      • NYMETSFAN718 says:

        I hope your wrong!!!!!

      • therealsince86 says:

        Because of someone not mentioned. I have changed my stance on Pudge a LITTLE>
        IF he would sign for under 5 million for one season and we could trade Schnieder or Castro it might not be a bad idea. It would balance our lineup to have a RH hitter in the 7 spot.

        • NYMETSFAN718 says:

          thereal,

          i thought we were under the agreement that this whole balance thing was overrated. And do you think we can get for Schnieder?

          • NYMETSFAN718 says:

            IF, (and its a BIG IF), IF Castro can stay healthy, i would rather have Castro behind the plate than Pudge.

          • therealsince86 says:

            Pudge still logs a lot of innings. I would think he would still help the lineup more than Schnieder although marginally. However, if we could get a utility IF or LHRP for Schnieder and get Pudge for the same amount of money then so be it.
            While balance is overrated it does allow us more flexibility with where we put Church and Murphy if they both play.

  8. Reyes es el Rey says:

    Why is Boston involved if the D-backs are just swapping two of their players for each other?

  9. Agees Catch says:

    Redding wants a two year deal? I’d give it to him

    • Wanny Backstra says:

      I’d tell him to actually pitch one full strong season before asking for two year contract.

  10. Nutz15 says:

    From Bryan Hoch’s MLB Blog….

    Cashman: Manny 3/$75M report “not true”

    Just swapped text messages with Brian Cashman, who wrote two words to splash some cold water on the Impacto Deportivo report of Manny Ramirez receiving a three-year, $75 million offer from the Yankees:

    “Not true.”

    There’s still a chance the Yankees make a push for Manny, but it really appears unlikely until after Mark Teixeira signs. That report said an announcement would be made Monday or Tuesday, but especially with the holidays approaching, the odds of having another huge gala press conference at the old Yankee Stadium in 2008 are dwindling.

    • stickguy says:

      Well, “not true” could be nuancing. That is, maybe the deal is 74million, or they plan to annouce Wednesday!

      In either case, technically the report is not true!

  11. JSC1968 says:

    Mets should go after Halladay hard, make it hard deal for them to refuse, like Niese, Evans, FMart, Kunz.

    I like Wells but he’s a CF, not an LF. And his contract is ugly.

  12. JSC1968 says:

    Can u imagine if they traded and got BJ Ryan then you would have a closer for the 7th, 8th & 9th!!!!

    If we could get him and then perhaps we could trade Putz to the Padres (no more Sandman there) along w/Niese and Evans to get Peavy.

    Now you would have Lefty/Righty monster in the closers role, and 2 bonafide #1’s at the top of the rotation.

    Damn that sounds good!

    Yo, Omar read this!!!!!

  13. therealsince86 says:

    Actually I looked at Wells contract last week when I read this.
    IF the Jays took Castillo and a prospect it would bring the contract down to about 16.6 million a year. Considering Castillo’s money is sunk anyway. Then you go with Grudzy at 2B or Murphy (I wish)

    This would also open up a trade of Church for a #5 starter?

    • JamesK says:

      C’mon Real, Wells is owed way too much money for what he provides – an above average highly injury prone corner OF.

      Imagine paying this guy $21 million in 2014?! Cringe-worthy. If they’re going to commit and $$ to a LF they should go 3 years to Dunn/Burrell. Signing these guys wouldn’t require giving up any prospects either.

  14. therealsince86 says:

    Until Manny signs somewhere to me there is still a chance he ends up a Met.
    I really don’t see the Angels in the mix either way.
    I will believe the Yankee’s when I see it.
    So to me it’s still the Dodgers and Mets as best candidates.
    If that happens trade Delgado to the Angels.

  15. zen says:

    wells has a terrible contact. he’s a nice player, but not worth that price tag for free. not to mention he wouldn’t even be playing center for the mets.

    halladay is great, but it will likely take too much to get him.

    manny being manny = a world series title for either the mets or yankees.

    • therealsince86 says:

      If you loose Castillo’s contract it’s like paying wells 16.5 million a season.

      • therealsince86 says:

        Lose, but I guess loose could apply as well.

      • zen says:

        the blue jays are not going to trade wells for castillo. it’s not a salary dump yet. he makes $1.5m in 09 and $12.5m in 2010.

        after that perhaps they dump him for a bucket of balls. not now. castillo will already have used up most of his contract by the time a wells starts getting $21-23m a year.

        • therealsince86 says:

          True, just depends on how bad they want to get rid of him. The same reason that he’s not a salary dump now makes him more tradeable right now.
          Rios has a large contract too. They need SP badly.

          • stickguy says:

            I would rather have Rios. Still not cheap, but better overall, younger (right?) and more useful to the Mets.

          • zen says:

            i agree that toronto needs starting pitching, but the mets need starters even more than they do.

            i’d rather have rios too though he will cost more in terms of prospects and the contract is also too high.

            we can all agree the mets need something offensively in addition to the 2 starters

      • Wanny Backstra says:

        Wells is a good player but is hardly worth taking up $15-20m chunk of a payroll usually in the $180m range. Anyway, he doesn’t seem like a guy who is going to age gracefully. He’s already been through several injuries and is, for the most part, living off the promise a well-timed great season a few years ago.

  16. Wanny Backstra says:

    I don’t see the upside to signing one of the average to below pitchers among Wolf, Garland or Redding to long-term deals for the 5th spot when Jason Marquis will give them the same 190+ average innings for only a one-year commitment.

    The Cubs will probably give him away and pay someone to take him.

  17. wallybackman says:

    Asked about Monday about a report out of the Dominican Republic that the Yankees are on the verge of signing Manny Ramirez, general manager Brian Cashman said: “Not true.”
    We called the Impacto Deportivo report “extremely doubtful” last night and unless Cashman is playing coy that looks to be the case. New York may indeed end up with Ramirez, but there’s been nothing to indicate that they’re far enough along in talks that a deal could be completed this soon.
    Source: MLB.com & Rotoworld

  18. SantanaClause says:

    If the Yankees do sign Manny remember what matt wrote a week ago that if the Yankees get Manny they might shop Nady who is a perfect fit

    1) Right Handed (check)
    2) Can Play LF (check)
    3) Short contract so we dont have to hold back F-Mart (Check)

    Its the second best situation depending on what we have to give up. Delgado + Evans ?

    • therealsince86 says:

      Nady because of his overhype and cheap contract will cost too much. Go get Damon or Matsui on the cheap from them if they need to dump an OF. You would over pay for Nady. Why do you think they are trying to trade him instead of the other guys.

    • oleosmirf says:

      I wonder if we could get Nady without giving up Delgado??

      Both are here on 1 year deals and while Delgado costs more, he’ll still be more productive than Nady this season…

      • SantanaClause says:

        who would you give up then the Yankees need a first baseman and a CF if you trade church your just creating another hole Murphy and Tatis / Evans would be better at 1st than LF and i could live without Delgado. People are saying trade him to the angels for pitching and when i go to try and trade him for a decent Right Handed Left Fielder i get scrutinized.

        • oleosmirf says:

          well the idea that Delgado needs to be traded makes no sense.

          The guy batted .271 40 HR 115+ RBI

          obviously he’s not going to repeat that but .260 32 HR 101 RBI is a good estimate and that cannot be replaced with Murphy, Evans or anyone on this current roster…

          unless the Mets can get a very good return for him there is no reason to trade him.

          • SantanaClause says:

            They predict Evans to be a 20+ HR kind of player and Murphy showed blips of power as well as hitting a couple of triples (including one VERY controversial one), A slew of doubles, and a ton of singles. Power Alone doesn’t win divisions (ask the Fla Marlins).

          • stickguy says:

            Well, .262 iasn’t that hard, since if he declines like that the OBP will prob. be in the .330 range. The 32 HRs might not happen from a young guy platoon, but they will also hit more doubles.

            the 101 RBIs? Well, let them have 150 games at the clean up spot, and I bet you see at least that many.

            Hopefully though you see less GIDPs into the shift!

            Sorry, I am not sold on him having a big year again (staying healthy).

  19. the_other_matt says:

    Rocco Baldelli might be a good fit.

    • SantanaClause says:

      yea but his Mitochondria disease makes him another Alou only younger.

      • the_other_matt says:

        Apparently the diagnosis was not entirely accurate.
        CNNSI: “The situation has been clarified a little bit better because of further tests,” Baldelli told the Tampa Tribune. “It’s positive news for my baseball career and my health.” The Phillies, Reds, Red Sox, or Rays may take a chance with Baldelli.

        And he wont cost players or a ton of cash.

        • SantanaClause says:

          i still want some one who could play at least 100 games ready on the bench just in case. and didn’t they say last year that there was a good chance Alou would be in 90+ games and he was only in 14. Don’t get me wrong i would like Baldelli but my problem is knowing Omar’s past dealings he would get Baldelli and just blow off any notion that he would get injured.

          On a similar note if Alou is willing to be a PINCH HITTER WHO WILL NEVER PLAY THE FIELD then i am fine with it.

  20. Kalihan42 says:

    I did not realize wells contract was that top heavy. The Jay’s can afford him for now but he will eventually cripple their franchise if they do not unload him at some point.. THey might want to get rid of him now before he kicks into the big bucks and no one will want him at all, but they are not going to get a taker unless they take on a contract as well in the deal. Not sure there is a fit there for the mets.

  21. nostradamus says:

    zen,
    you are right. the offense needs attention. manny would be the clutch cleanup righty that they have not had since poiazza. manny will make the entire lineup better at the plate….not to mention the WS

  22. Santana
    Halladay
    Pelf
    Maine
    Ollie

    Reyes
    Church
    Wright
    Delgado
    Beltran
    Tatis/Murphy
    Castillo/Wiggy
    Schneider/Castro

    K-Rod
    Putz
    Green
    Robertson
    Feliciano
    Parnell
    Saito

  23. bucknersankles says:

    TOO BAD, IT SEEMS MANRAM WILL DO NY UNFORTUNATELY IT WILL BE IN THE WRONG SIDE OF TOWN.

  24. tonym says:

    therealsince86 says:
    December 22, 2008 at 10:20 am

    Until Manny signs somewhere to me there is still a chance he ends up a Met.
    I really don’t see the Angels in the mix either way.
    I will believe the Yankee’s when I see it.
    So to me it’s still the Dodgers and Mets as best candidates.
    If that happens trade Delgado to the Angels.

    ———————-

    You are completey deluding yourself. completely. There’s not a single mention of the Mets being in for Manny at all – that’s becuase they’re not.

    You are desperate for Manny obviously, and therefore deperate he’s not a Yankee.

    A clear case of “what i want” and not “what i think”

  25. garfios says:

    I’ll go for Bradley, higher ceiling and younger than Dunn/Burell