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Update, 4:15 pm:
The eight-year, $180 million deal agreed to between the Yankees and Mark Teixeira has a full no-trade clause and $5 million signing bonus, reports Bill Madden in the Daily News, who adds:
“Until Tuesday, the Yankees were mostly interested observers… But when the Angels pulled out of the bidding on Sunday night, and the Red Sox failed to reach an agreement… the Yankees suddenly became more interested… It was then learned that Teixeira had favored the Yankees all along and according to sources he conveyed that to them this week.”
…so, wait, after the Angels pulled out and the Red Sox disappeared, and all that was left was the Nationals, it was then, after that, when the Yankees suddenly learned of his interest…hmm, sure, that sounds about right…
Update, 3:25 pm:
Buster Olney of ESPN.com reports the Yankees and free-agent 1B Mark Teixeira have reached agreement on an eight-year, $180 million deal.
…great…now let’s move on, Scott Boras…it’s time to talk about Derek Lowe and Manny Ramirez i believe…
…now, the question is: will this motivate the Red Sox to spend additional money on lowe, who the Mets prefer to sign…
Update, 3:20 pm:
The Yankees are on the verge of signing Teixeira to an eight-year deal, according to Jon Heyman of SI.com.
Original Post:
The Washington Times reports there will be an announcement today about where Mark Teixeira will sign his next contract.
Peter Gammons and Buster Olney of ESPN.com believe a deal is ‘seemingly imminent.’
Meanwhile, the Nationals have upped their offer to Teixeira to nine years, $180 million, reports the Boston Globe, while the Red Sox remain at eight years, and roughly $170 million.
However, while MLB.com believes Teixiera will decide today between the Nationals and Red Sox, Jon Heyman of SI.com believes the Yankees are in deep discussions with Teixeira.
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yeah and it’s supposedly the friggin yankees…why couldnt we get him…so stupid
it is the yankees
Can you imagine if the nationals get him, what a waste of talent.
mlbtraderumors and heyman reporting yankees…
you have got to be kidding me
I don’t want Tex for 8 years, $180M. They can have him
This is insane and not good for us because that likely means Lowe to the Red Sox and we are left with the typical leftovers.
it’s def yankees according to espn.
Dang it. Not because I thought he was going here, but because I was hoping he’d go to the Sox for the aforementioned reasons. He’s awesome, and actually one of the few guys worth that kind of money. Considering his age and the fact that he’s a stud on both offense and defense – kudos to the Yankees. Ugh. Can’t believe I just typed that.
this is just ridiculous.
this means manny has very few options remaining which plays right into omar’s hands. don’t be surprised to hear the manny to the mets speculation pick up with the quickness.
i wish the Mets had owners who cared more about contending every year like the Steinbrenners. The
Mets are always a couple players short every year.
Its just that the WIlpons don’t spend $200M on their payroll, because they can’t.
And Minaya signs and trades for bad players.
They can’t spend 200 million but they can’t spend more than the 130-140 million it looks like we’ll end up spending.
Great — the worst possible scenario.
Oh, how I hate the Yankees. Let me count the ways… (be back in a few weeks when I am done counting)
it will take longer than that to count to infinity.
If Boston gets Lowe, any chance Mets go after Manny?
I say sign Perez, Sheets, and Manny and we’ll be all ready for Pitchers and Catchers
Can manny pitch? Heck, can he even play defense anymore?
I say Manny b/c the dollars not being spent on Lowe.
What do you mean “anymore”? He NEVER played defense,
Based on what I’ve heard he has a solid fastball getting up in the high 70’s, a minus change-up, and a minus ephus. However, his delivery is deceiving because of all the dreadlocks everywhere. As far as defense goes … eh … not so much. However, he is the most feared hitter in the league.
Sheets? C’mon. He’ll be good for, what, 15 starts next year?
The guy took a crap when the Brewers needed him down the stretch last year. Why would you be so confident in him?
He’s very good offensively. Not sure I’d consider him quite in that stud category though.
Only 21.5 million per.
switch hitting 27 year old 1b with power, average, and a penchant for gettin 100 rbis, EVERY year…he’s a stud
this is sickening…i said since friggin july “with all the money coming off their books, i bet the yanks def get tex and cc” but i never REALLY believed it…this makes me vomit
texiera was THE ANSWER for the mets…
ps—now the yanks have either swisher or matsui as their FOURTH Outfielder…god i hate them
give him his extra year, hes 28 and will be 29 in April…
not that it makes him old, but almost 29 and 27 are MUCH different
count me on the mannywagon.
well that leaves us with manny, ollie, and o-hudson. lets hope thatr happens
Maybe this will put pressure on the Mets to actually sign Lowe and/or Manny? We can only hope. Because the Yankees just showed they aren’t going to accept losing, and they are using their revenue as a weapon. There’s no reason we cant do the same.
Dang, there goes my plan to have the Steinbrenners finish bailing out the auto industry.
This makes us more likely to sign Low and/or Manny
lol, nice one EdH
but yeah…2 of ollie lowe sheets wolf
and manny…
lol, nice one EdH
but yeah…2 of ollie lowe sheets wolf
and manny…
All that money tied in to CC, JJ, A-Rod, Tex and Jeter……. If anything goes wrong, what then?
then they’ll spend another 100 mil on someone else.
great signing by the Yankees, now imagine if they got Manny too
They will spend more money.
now that yankees took tex and not after manny and the angels dont want manny and the nationals dont want manny and the red sox arent taking manny so its only the dodgers left so y not the mets tell manny 3 years 65 mill since there isnt any1 left i know it wont happend but theres no suiters for him left and im very highly upset that hte yankees get tex at 170 mill when easly we could of solved rotation or rightfield help by trading delgado and solving 1st base for the future in signing TEX big mistake on the mets but you can always correct that mistake by taking advantge of the situation and get manny at low price nwo that there is barly any market for him now
punctuation??
That’s one heck of a sentence, Eduardo. Your english teacher just rolled in there grave…
SALARY CAP! SALARY CAP!
400 million dollars in one offseason… Despicable
i’m not mad at the yankees. until mlb gets serious about a salary cap, this will keep happening. the yankees are playing by the rules, plain and simple.
the problem is when you have teams lie the mets who care more about staying within budget instead of maximising their revenue streams in an effort to make more money that can be parlayed into shoring up their holes. k-rod and putz are great, don’t get me wrong but tatis/murphy in left, castillo playing second and church with a headache are going to be holes we’ll be crying about all year.
then again. this is why they play the games.
that means the yankees spend 400 mil. on players this offseason its fair to the rest of baseball.
I am jealous, not going to lie. Hopefully the Mets make some more moves also.
gluttonous much? Unreal. This is fine, i don’t buy that this makes the Yankees the best team in the league. Just because they got the best hitter and pitcher on the market doesn’t make them the best actual pitcher and hitter in the league.
Can we trade for Nady now that Swish has to be OF?
Once again the Mets are the little brothers of NY.
Why haven’t the Yankees signed Manny and Lowe yet? What are they waiting for? Obviously money isn’t holding them back…
Sabbathia, Burnett and now Teixeira………….
Aargh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s so easy to hate them.
Get Manny now.
The thing to keep in mind before we all jump off the cliff is that this impacts the Mets only in the sense that is means the Sox might be more aggressive pursuing Lowe, but we don’t know that for sure.
FU** THE YANKEES UP THE AS*……REALLY FU*KIN HARD!!!!!!!!!!!
sorry guys, as of right now their payroll for next year is lower than it was this year…
Yes, that makes it right, good logic, $400 million on 3 players.
Mussina, Abreu, Giambi all off the books
Ya gotta love the Yankees. I don;’ like them, but you have to admit they want to win at all costs. This philosophy is great for their fans. Buy the way on another note, the Mets actually make the same amount if not more money than the Yankees. So, Fred and Jeff, and Saul, what do you say? How about opening the wallet some more and screw this 140 million payroll crap. Go for the gusto, get us Manny, Lowe, and Fuentes.
I absolutely despise the New York Yankees. They’re not a baseball team, they’re a brand. It’s a pathetic disgrace.
perfectly said
This doesn’t mean anything until the players get on the field and succeed. The Yankees have signed big-time players before that get hurt, crumble under NY pressure, etc…just like any other team. Personally, I would have went after Manny who you KNOW can handle the pressure. Tex is a great player though and a great clubhouse guy. Im just not convinced yet that he won’t be A-Rod #2.
That said..the bigger issue is that this probably means the Sox will go to sign Lowe, who we’ve been holding out for
Whatever… You think the Skanks will be the first 500 million dollar team? Maybe this will smack the owners and wake them up. A salary cap IS needed in baseball like in every sport. Who wants to watch the KCs and the Pittsburgh teams?
The Skanks are perfect examples of what’s wrong with American corporate business… Just spending money like it’s nothing even when there’s a recession. When they start losing and fans stop going to games because they can’t afford the crazy hikes that will be needed to pay these players. Who do you think will go crying to the government for a bailout? This is simply ridiculous!
this is what happends when you try 2 crap on TEX and his agent boston is stupid for trying to make a statment out of boras and look now they are beating there heads in LOL there stuck with MIKE LOWELL pathetic
Yankees sure are great for baseball, spend spend spend, they never learn, they’ve been spending for years now and have won nothing, their championship teams were home grown players, not big out of control contracts
No win situation -
Yankees win – they bought a championship
Yankees lose- Girardi fired, yankees become the laughing stock of the league
Hey they are still going with youth! Hughes and Kennedy will be in a fierce battle for the top spot in the AAA rotation next year.
What a complete joke
I don’t think this will propel them to first, or even second in their division. But I still think this, and the Sabathia contract, were smart decisions. The problem they’re it’s surrounded by a lot of bad ones.
If Heyman’s dollars are correct, this means the yankees signed 3 players for $423.5 million dollars. WHAT A JOKE! BRIAN CASHMAN HAS THE EASIEST JOB ON THE PLANET!
And you know what, they are still going to be in a dogfight for that division.
This will help the mets too I think. Ive been saying all along that they will not get Manny, but now he has no suitors left! Hes going to come down to a year and Omar will have to pounce on that!
Angels GM Tony Reagins said Tuesday that he will not sign free agent Manny Ramirez. Manager Mike Scioscia is willing to welcome Ramirez to Anaheim, but Reagins is completely against the idea. “Manny Ramirez will not play for the Angels in 2009, or beyond, for that matter,” Reagins said. With the Yankees seemingly out of the mix, Ramirez is without any clear suitors at the moment.
Omar and Company must jump on this!
Can we please go out and sign Manny now? I’ve been saying this all off-season!
what a shock, the Yankees are trying to buy the title instead of earn it the real way.
and all this does is raise the prices on Lowe and Manny now.
does this mean we have to now get manny to re-claim the backpage?
Meanwhile in Queens the Mets are still bargin shopping
no, the mets are waiting
Enough with the bickering and enough with the bad mouthing of the Mets.
Jeez, yeah I know Yankee fans are excited, there excited every off season.
Omar is doing his thing. Let sfill in that rotation and then dabble in a litttle Manny action.
A Fresh manny
A Happy Manny
A Manny who will want all the headlines for hitting walkoff not the BS.
Its takin him awhile but sign him up.
You know Omar is salivating right now for Manny.
The Mets are not getting Manny they might sign Lowe and thats it The Mets tend to shoot all there load for 1 guy
i see it like this either the yankees or rays take 1st or 2nd in division and im sorry 2 say the dumb red sox are going to be third this year and miss the playoff becuase there clearly getting old and have not made no moves and dont have manny i see them falling apart this season
Lol what? This is ridiculous.
How are the red sox old?
Lester is 24
DiceK is 28
Papelbon is 28
Youkilis is 29
Peoria (MVP) is 25
Ellbsury is 25
I guess their “old” guys are:
Bay is 30
Ortiz is 33
Drew is 33
And they have Bucholtz and Masterson pretty much ready… and more on the way (Lars Anderson)
I wish we were as “old” as the red sox
you forgot Jed Lowrie =/.
A healthy Beckett
Jon Lester
Matsuzaka
Papelbon
Youkilis
Pedroia
Ortiz
Lowell
Bay
I think the Red Sox will be ok
this is why i hate a large majority of met fans – i am a die hard mets fan myself and all i keep reading is about the red sox and yankees…who cares about them?! honestly! if u are a true met fan worry about the mets and the holes they have to fill enough naming the red sox players and hoping that they are going to be ok this season
i mean seriously, i am sitting at a 1 run game late 2007 against the marlins, the phillies are about 2 games back and all i hear behind me are people complaining that the yankees are winning! are u kidding me? terrible!
Good thing the Yankees petitioned the city of NY and its taxpayers for more money to finance their stadium, and then turned around and dished out $420+ million and counting in free agent contracts….That makes sense.
Hey we are set, we have Tatis in LF……..WOOOHOOO!!!
^ We’ve spent the 2nd most dollars this offseason, but right, we’re “bargain shopping”, because we aren’t greedy,manipulative toads like our neighbors..
Who have we gotten to hit for us in spots we clearly need? Who is the catcher we got or the 2b we got, how about a starting pitcher? We are clearly bargain shopping.
Umm what catcher is available that’s better than Schneider? And what 2nd basemen is available that wouldn’t just be a more expensive version of Castillo?
Ever heard of Orlando Hudson? I’d say he’s a little better than Castillo, no? If you want to go to battle with what we currently have, go for it.
Hudson is a more expensive version of Castillo. His defense has been declining fast and his offense is decent but overrated, and probably has been slightly inflated by playing in Arizona. not to mention he’s 32 and coming off a consecutive wrist injury, and I know it was a fluky injury but injuring the same wrist two years in a row is likely going to affect a player. Signing him for more than 7-8 million per on a 2-3 year deal, at the most would just make him a more expensive version of Castillo.
gina marry me
No FA catcher is better than what we have already
Do you really want to sign another 32 year old injury prone 2nd baseman??
As to my knowledge, neither Lowe or Perez have signed anywhere yet.
We probably do need another bat, but we scored the 2nd most runs in the NL last season, it’s not like our offense was terrible (although we could use a RH OF)
Any team will look like it’s bargain shopping when another team spends 400 frikkin million dollars in one offseason…
Lets stick with Castillo and the weak hitting Schneider, and we’ll finish 3rd or 4th…….awesome!!
Um, no. Who do you honestly expect to finish in front of us? The Braves? AHAHAHAHA. Nats? Um, NO. Marlins. Not this year, definitely. Phillies? They’re worse next year than this year as previously constructed. So, yes, right now, there’s no way we aren’t favored to at least compete for the top of the division.
Lets bring back the 100 walk, 5 cent brain Perez, yea!!!
We’re not getting Perez. We’re getting Lowe. That’s an improvement.
Again, the best FA catcher out there is Varitek, and he was worse than Schneider last year
Hudson is good, but he’s 32 years old, and he’s had his season end early due to injuries the last 2 years
Finally, I don’t want Perez, but aside from Lowe (who we have a very good chance of getting), he’s the best FA pitcher out there
We signed one FA? We picked up Delgado’s opton.. and traded for Putz… how are we big spenders this off season?
It’s not that we’re big spenders. It’s that no one has spent. I’m pretty sure outside of the Yankees the K-rod contract is the biggest contract that’s been given out.
I think the Dempster contract is bigger.
Let’s look at the positive points here:
1) Yanks won’t pursue Manny…neither is LAA or BOS
2) Mets could be more compelled to get Lowe or Manny now
3) Who cares what the Yanks do
4) Nady can be available for our LF needs
Ollie & Manny FTW.
So does Boras have his new office set up in the new yankees stadium right next to cashman or what! Geez this is ridiculous!
offer manny 4 years 85 million with club option pickup for the 4th year which we most likly will turn down unless he still has it in him to hit but i think at this point he will take this offer
ed- u are absolutely nuts if ur willing to give manny more than 2 years…we want our young guys like wright and reyes to step up and be the leaders of the clubhouse..we dont need manny to come in here and ruin the clubhouse –unless its a 2 yr deal where he will be motivated for the full 2 years
Keep in mind, the Mets only compete with the Yankees in the Newspapers. This is more of a problem for the Red Sox and Rays than the Mets.
Perhaps the Blue jays may be in a more open mind to trade…..Alex Rios?
um….and the six games each year they play against one another.
also we compete against them for “entertainment dollars”….we just keep getting further, and further behind…we ll see though…off season is not over…lets have some faith here
MANNY AND LOWE! MAKE IT HAPPEN OMAR!!!!!!
I WOULD BE SOOO HAPPY
What did the Mets spend ? They got K-Rod and thats it Putz was a trade
K-rod, but no one else has spent either.
The problem isn’t a lack of spending though it’s the fact we seem to be ignoring options, like Tex, because of money. When Tex would only cost about 5 million more than what we paid Delgado the last 3 years and is a better all-around player by far.
We need a salary cap. This is ridicules…over $400 million for three players. We are having a recession with many having problems with finances and they spend like money grows from trees. Sad day. Now let us see how Mets will play this.
people are living on the friggin streets and this guy is making 170 million dollars to play baseball….jeez…its soo sad
Even with this news, I do not want a salary cap. The Mets have more money than most teams in the National League – We do have that advantage. If we can only learn to use it, we would win the division more times than not. Lets stay focused – The Mets do not have to go through the Yankees to get to the WS. And in the WS, anything can happen.
I don’t think there should be a salary cap, but when the best offensive player and the two best pitchers go to the same team only because they offer ridiculously more money than everyone else, there’s something wrong. In no other sport would that happen.
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
met lineup
reyes
beltran
wright
delgado
manny
church
hudson
schneider/castro
pitcher
looks good to me, and feasible
Honestly is this really that much better
Damon
Jeter
Arod
Tex
Nady
Cano
Posada
Matsui
Cabrera
than
Reyes
Beltran
Wright
Delgado
Manny
Church
Schneider/Castro
Castillo
Obviously without changes there bottom of the order is better, but I go to war against that lineup any day
Nevermind the huge advantage in defense we have.
one day – i would love that lineup but i would set it differently
i wud move wright back to the 5 spot like in 06
reyes
beltran
manny
delgado
wright
church
castro
castillo
i have no problem with Wright in the 5 spot, but Manny being the RBI machine that he is might be wasted at the 3, dont you think?
Also, Gina, 100% on the defense thing
If we signed Lowe and Ohman wed be better than that team for far less money
in the 1980’s, i never thought the mets would become the la clippers of baseball.
the steinbrenners are men.
AGREE 100%
If by men you mean petulant crybabies who whine when they don’t win, then yes.
DOESNT OMAR REALIZE HOW MUCH MONEY HE WOULD MAKE OFF OF MANNY ON THE METS…..SELL OUTS ALL THE TIME….NOT TO MENTION THAT WE WOULD WIN!!!!
AND WRIGHT WOULD BE THE BEST PLAYER IN THE NATIONAL LEAGUE BECAUSE HE WONT BE UNDER SO MUCH PRESSURE!!!!!
CMON OMAR EVERY METS FAN WANTS HIM….MAKE US HAPPY……PLEASE
Not all of us. Some of us are sick and tired of the Yanks spend spend spend and don’t want the Mets to follow in their footsteps and become a Yankees Lite.
Lets be honest the mets are not going to go out and get manny and lowe. but honestly there is no excuse for them to not attempt to sign lowe and dunn or manny and wolf. I think Id prefer the first one but either would help.
also PTP, not signing big players is not Omars fault, it is the Wilpons for not allowing him to up the payroll.
You don’t think Citifield will sell out regardless?
Hillarious.. Just watching “The Hotlist”. The guy goes.. “What we don’t know is that the Yankees save money in other areas by having one scout. The guy sits around and sees who the highest player is every off season… What he wants 100 million? We’ll offer him 200 million!” Easiest job ever.. haha
the competition is not with the yanks, it’s with the phils. i’d rather not offset their new aging defensive liability of a LF with one of our own. everyone needs to relax: omar has already substantially improved our most glaring weakness and tex needed to go somewhere to fully ignite the hot stove.
what are the chances of the yankees also signing manny
Well…this could be good for Met fans in a sense that one would think the Mets just can’t sit around and allow the Yankees to take all the headlines. Maybe it means Manny….not sure. Also…I remember feeling this same way when the Yankees signed Giambi and then A-Rod. It hurt, but it looks like I over reacted.
That makes no sense.
^ So every other team in baseball is women?? Get real, even though what the Yankees are doing is legal, it’s unethical and goes completely against the supposed competitive balance in sports…
Sylar are you responding to Zen’s comment above? If so, you can use the ‘Reply’ link at the bottom of the comment, to include your comment in the discussion.
MANNY AND LOWE/OLLIE, IT HAS TO BE DONE OMAR!
i agree
becuase the wilpons try to use there coupons
The excuse will be all the money they losat in the market, their stupidity will hurt the team and the fans.
I quit baseball.
i just love how all these so called experts had tex going to either the sox or nats. no one mentioned the yanks all week.
so, does anyone think it was a bad move by the yanks to sign tex to that deal?
It’s not a bad move.. Just a glutonous move. As long as there is no cap this will happen. Frankly I want to see them have the top 9 highest players in baseball starting at one time. Maybe it’ll have to get a lot worse before MLB will make some changes.
j. santana
j. maine
m. pelfrey
j. lima
b. lawrence
d. newhan for left field
omar, get it done!
Have I ever told you that you’re a moronic tool? Because you are…
ad hominem attacks are hardly a match for my humor and wit.
okay, this is actually hilarious
fwiw the Yankees had 80 million or so coming off the books. So far they’ve only replaced that + about 5-6 million. So it’s not that insane of a spending spree.
actually they are not over the 80 million yet
come on Omar what happend to ya love for ya dominican ppl get Manny already , manny equals C.C . burnett, and Tex for under a 100 million get it done for us mets fans were tired of being the broke team
I have no problem with a team spending their own $$$ on a player to improve. But I do have a problem with a team asking for hundreds of millions in tax free $$$ for their stadium, go out spend it on CC, ask for more tax free money from the city and sign Teixeira. It is getting obsense and that is coming from a Mets fan with one of the top payrolls in MLB.
Yeah, that’s my problem with it. At least the Mets are having some restraint.
The Mets will not sign any position players. I love Manny like everyone but lets be honest, we are not the yankees.
you wana know how much the wilpons are trying to use there coupons ?
two words
TIM REDDING
As a 5th starter, people!!! NO ONE EXPECTS HIM TO REPLACE OLLIE!
God, people are SO STUPID sometimes, I swear.
Tex is over rated. The Red Sox’s were smart not to give the guy an 8 year 170 million contract. He is no where even close to being worth that much. The Red Sox will be fine. The Yankees are getting back to there old ways which is spend spend spend. Since they started this way (Mussina, Giambi) they have not won a championship and they won’t win it next year either.
He actually is pretty close to being worth that much right now, the issue is he won’t be in 4-5 years.
Can we talk Castillo for Swisher? He is all of a sudden very expendable, and Cano could be used to fill an OF hole.
Hank will not help us out. No way.
Swisher could end up in center field for them.
oh and I don’t think the Wilpons care that the Phillies think we are choke artists and the Yankees steal the spot light. As long as we come out in 2009 and win, that is all that matters.
The Yankees should sign Lowe, Manny, Perez etc.
The Mets should bring pack Pedro, wait on El Duque (maybe he can pitch after the all star break?). Sign someone from the Nationals, Give Castillo and extra year on his contract to motivate him and yeah 2009 should be a good 1!
yeah thats true about manny but whos left to compete for his contract just the dodgers i feel like omar just doesnt want to get into a bidding war but the dodgers is not a bidding war at this point i think manny will accept the 1st contract that makes sense to him and i would make those moves now plus the mets are getting 20 mill a season from citibank for naming rights so wahts the problem
I love how the Yankees signing a guy that was not even someone that was on our radar now signifies that the Mets are unwilling or incapable of signing big time free agents. Obviously it was another franchise that signed Pedro Martinez, Carlos Beltran, Billy Wagner, Francisco Rodriguez and then traded for and signed Johan Santana. Cheapskates!
Until Derek Lowe, Oliver Perez, Manny Ramirez, Adam Dunn, and Bobby Abrea (the remaining “big” free agents) are off the board, I’d say it’s time to relax just a bit.
don’t forget traded for putz
Well, I was just looking at it from the monetary standpoint, but yeah, that too.
Look, the Yanks have had a great offseason – though I’d be willing to wager that they won’t wind up in the Series when all is said and done – but the Mets have done pretty well thus far, and our key targets are still available.
DCMetsfan you and I think alike.
Some folks just don’t understand.
We got priorities.
Since Omar has been here, the WIlpons have given him everyhing.
Maybe some of the complainers werent fans when our lineup had Wigginton, McEwing, Raul Gonzalez . . . .
Some Mets fans have become complacent.
Understand the longevity of the game. Its life you can’t force it.
a rational response…
what are you doing on this blog?
I wonder that myself sometimes. :)
Agreed.
Agreed…we will sign Lowe or Ollie def..and Redding…I want Manny but I have little faith
ah npanzeca, good to see that you are the opposite of a fairweather fan, you only come on when things don’t look great,
go away troll.
l’m hardly a troll. Been a fan since 1964, how about you?
Could have fooled me. With your responses I would have thought you were 12 years old.
The Yankees know to make money they have to spend money so what do they do , they put an all -star team out in a new stadium
It’s an all-star team when they win something.
Dear christ…….
let’s go mets!!!!!!!!
TEX WILL BE A BUST IN NY.
MARK MY WORDS
I don’t think a bust, per se.
But not worth it? Definitely.
CC, AJ, and Tex – sounds like a boy band.
HAHAHA
I have a feeling the mets will sign manny ramirez, I mean we are the only big market team who can do it. The dodgers wont beat usif we really want manny.
sign manny and leave murphy on the bench and put him at 1B in 2009. we all want murphy to play 2B, but we will have to wait and see. if he can handle 2B, that would be great.
I may be more excited about the Yanks signing Tex, than actual Yankee fans. This leaves it wide open for the Mets to get Manny.
Go GET HIM!
MY GOOD FREIND WORKS FOR MLB.COM AND HE JUST GOT WORD THAT THE YANKEES HAVE ALSO AGREED TO TERMS WITH MANNY RAMIREZ ON A 3 YEAR DEAL, ARE YOU KIDDING ME?????????????????????
I won’t be shocked to see Manny signing with the Yankees
I think you’re wrong.
But IDK. If you’re right…
I quit baseball. Not because I particularly even want Manny, but because all parity would have officially flown out the window.
The Yankees are like me when I make trades and sign players on my PS3
I played 2K8 for months, and I don’t think I ever spent that much money in one offseason.
hey i hope im wrong because I just convinced myself we actually had a shot at manny, but hes in the editing department and when he hears something, its usually true
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By the way, there’s this button on the left side of your keyboard. Look all the way on your left. It’s between Shift and Tab, and it says “Caps Lock.” You might want to hit that.
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Wow, either the brewers, angels or blue jays will end up with a third round pick for losing a player like Sabathia/Tex/Burnett.
How funny would it be if did end up getting him? Purely for the fact that our exhibition game at Citifield is against the Red Sox.
Also this might mean the Sox make a serious push for Lowe now.
That’s the part that worries me. Manny>Lowe, but for us and our needs, Lowe>Manny.
Agreed. Plus I don’t think we’re going to be going after Manny anyone, just because of what has been said about the way the Wilpons feel about him.
This worries me too! Before, I figured that we will get Lowe but now I am unsure. Don’t over pay for Perez, Omar! Our need is Pitching! Pitching! Pitching!
good let move on to more important things — our starting pitching!!
Wow, that was unexpected, but can’t say I’m really that surprised…Red Sox dropped the ball on this one.
Just thinking, I mean I am really happy with the acquisitions of Putz and K-Rod. But I really think we need a bat, and obviously a starter of some kind.
I can see the Red Sox really amping it up for Lowe now…So that doesn’t leave us in too good of a spot.
What do you think will happen? I think our Offense is a concern only because we are relying on Tatis to continue his success for a platoon with Murphy, and Castillo, well enough said, and hoping Delgado can duplicate last years success…
but I guess nothing is certain with whoever ya get…oh well…at least the news about Tex will stop!
And I’ll take the Rays over the Yanks still…Speed and great pitching…over Waiting for the HR and injury prone pitching..Mark my words they still have bullpen issues too.
It’s not Glutonous, It’s not a big deal and they’re not even the best team in their own division STILL.
This does not effect the Mets in any way…so lets leave it there
you are just lost my friend..,if you dont think this just put them at the top of the pile in the AL…lost….
I’m pretty sure I agree, but I’ll feel more certain if they sign someone like Bradley or Dunn to DH.
I agree.
Although it does make the Yankees a whole lot better, they have plenty more problems with their club.
As well, who cares how competitive they are in the AL East? The Mets just need to make it to the postseason. With the bullpen fixes, we’ve addressed our most critical (BY FAR) need.
All we have to do is make it to the postseason… from there anything can happen.
Mets need to focus –
Although this is a big deal in baseball; it doesn’t hurt the Mets in terms of getting to the WS. Hopefully we can still sign Lowe. Lets see what Omar can do.
listen…i hate the yanks just as much as anyone here…but where exactly are these “holes”?
Of course it affects the Met. Being # 2 in your own city forever is big. Any name player that wants to come to NY will go to the Yankees as first choice. We will always be #2. Actually #4 in NY. The Giants and Jets are higher than the Metss also
The Jets??? LMAO
(The Giants are #1 in this city)
Oh, but seriously congrats on getting worse in LF and not improving your SP. You guys are just destined to win the WS again..
WHO ARE THE jETS?
aside from the GMEN and BIlls didnt realize we had another team in NY,,,
. Being # 2 in your own city forever is big.
Who has won a title more recently, the Angels or the Dodgers? The Cubs or the White Sox? And the Angels and White Sox are far lower down their respective cities’ ladders.
ny name player that wants to come to NY will go to the Yankees as first choice.
See my comment above. Evidently not.
The Giants and Jets are higher than the Metss also
The Giants are arguably the most popular team in the city, but the Jets? Let me put it this way. I’ve met fans of the Mets and Giants, fans of the Yankees and Giants, fans of the Mets and Jets – ever met a Yankees and Jets fan? And I would say being the third most popular team (if they are that, because baseball is more popular than football) in a city of 17 million people is nothing to be concerned about. The Mets still have a competitive advantage financially that most other teams salivate over – we just can’t appreciate it because of the Yankees. Believe me, the Cubs would rather be #2 in new York than #1 in Chicago.
Yes, I have two good friends that are Yankees and Jets fans. But they’re probably the only two right?
They just might be.
Honestly, it’s not a combo that I typically encounter, but who knows?
But I think the Jets are clearly a greater second fiddle in NYC than the Mets are.
I’ve met Jets and Yankees fans. And I don’t live in new york. Or anywhere near it.
The Mets are New York’s Ugly Redheaded Step-Child ! LOL
Rod thats bs. There was a poll in the Daily News last yr that listed the most popular teams in the city. 1. Yankees (What a surprise) 2. Mets 3. Giants. The point of the article was to show that the Boston Red Sox had a stronger fan base in the city than the Knicks.
This is going off topic (well, what a surprise at this point) but really, the Sox are more popular than the Knicks? I only am surprised at that because I figured, as bad as the Knicks are, they are the only team in the city (are we really counting the Nets?) and basketball is pretty popular in the city. I would have figured the rankings would be:
Yanks, Giants, Mets (or Mets, Giants), Knicks, Jets, Rangers.
who cares your comparing apples and oranges
Excuse me but i think you forgot about two of my favorite teams the islanders and the ducks thankyou verry much
Not a lot of baseball players are likely to choose the Jets or NY Giants over the Mets, so I wouldn’t worry about that.
Why does this put them at the top??…CC won 20 games…so did Mouse…Burnett is an injury waiting to happen and went 14-12 last season if I remember correctly…and Giambi while I agree is not Tex…he still put up relatively good numbers…not to mention they’ll be playing Gardner in the OF as opposed to Abreu
Burnett won 18 games last year and Giambi couldn’t hold Teixeira’s jock…….and don’t be shocked if the Yankees still sign Manny .
DO WE NOT HAVE MoNEY???? WHAT DID WE GET???KROD???? FOR A BARGAIN???? YES………THAT MEANS WE CAN AFFORD MORE
everyone says how do the yankees have the money….answer is because they are opening a new stadium
SO ARE WE!!!!!!!!! HELLO!?!?!?!?!?!?!
The Mets charge close to what the Yankees charge plus the Mets are getting 20 million from Citi a yr and they have there own network as well
Can’t wait to hear Fatcessa about this he most likely have the Yankees winning it all like he does every year and never admit when he is wrong
And anyone that wants a salary cap doesn’t understand what they have as a Mets Fan…do you really want to work within the same parameters as the Pittsburgh Pirates or the Rays???
It wouldn’t be as bad for us but imagine if teams like the A’s and Rays had the same financial playing field as the rest of the AL. Big market teams would want nothing to do with that.
If the Skanks sign Manny, my head might explode.
I really hope Tex doesn’t come out and say he was “born” to be a Yankee. We all know he grew up a Baltimore fan and he just took the money and ran with the Yanks.
who cares??
who cares that Teixiera signed with the Yankees.
Would you rather him sign with the Nationals???
The Yankees pose 0 threat to the Mets unless both teams are in the WS and thats very unlikely.
Hopefully this makes the Wilpons willing to spend more…
Does anyone else realize that since the Yankees started off on this type of ridiculous spending that they haven’t won one World Series…You can’t buy championships…..
congrats Yanks. might as well go sign Hudson, manny, and trade cano for matt kemp.
This IS the difference between the Yankees and the Mets.
The Yankees walk the walk. The Mets cry poor mouth and are going with Tatis/Murphy in left field while manny sits there ready to be bought and to bring a championship to the Mets.
The Mets are cheap son of you know what.
The Red Sox will now move on Lowe…the Mets are going to go into the spring with Nick Evans on the Bench! The yankees have Nick Swisher on the bench.
This team is a joke and Mets fans wake up!
Stop spending money until the Mets SPEND money.
Signing Krod is NOT enough! Wake up OMAR
Go root for the Yankees then
I second that. We are not the Yankees and will never be where they are financially. Give it up already people.
Boo f***ing hoo.
I’m with you there. I’d rather him sign with the Yanks then the Nationals. He’d kill us every chance he’d get, in typical Nationals style. Don’t think he’s worth 22 mill, but maybe that’s just me.
What is the Yankees payroll… 300 million? It’s ridiculous that they have paid for Teixeria, Sabathia, and Burnett.
This year’s salary tax threshold is 155 million, right? Also, if we go over the salary cap tax by a few million, we are only going to dish out a few million. After the Yankees payroll last year, they only paid out around 26 million. That amount is paid out while being 70 million over the luxury tax amount.
The Yankees have traded Nick Swisher to the Atlanta Braves for JoJo Reyes, Brandon Jones, cash condieration, and a fill in prospect…
all the Mets have to do is sign Manny and Lowe and get a backup for Castillo and the offseason is complete
Reyes
Beltran
Wright
Manny
Delgado
Church
Castillo
Schneider/Castro
Castro
Utility IF
Murphy
Tatis
Reed
Santana
Lowe
Pelfrey
Maine
Niese/Figueroa/whoever
Stokes
LH whoever
Feliciano
Green
Sanchez
Putz
K-Rod
Lineup: much better than last year
Rotation: much better than last year
Bullpen: much better than last year
That makes the Mets a 95+ win team and doesnt break the bank.
Hopefully the Wilpons let Manny come here where he belongs…
dont forget a lefty for the pen
that gets filled by the LH whoever spot
who do u think think could/should fill that spot?
ohman? who else is there really? i think they had someone in mind when they traded show..but who?
guardado
Rincon??? I hope not.
Teixeira would join pitchers CC Sabathia and A.J. Burnett in New York’s free agent haul at a total price tag of more than $413 million.
That is sick…
Ok…manny ramirez
dodgers – yes
yankees – no
sox – no
angels – no
If we get in on him…we are up against the dodgers
derek lowe
red sox – yes
mets – yes
who else??
after 2006: it was obvious that the mets needed an ace. he waited until 2007.
after 2007: it was obvious that the mets needed a bullpen overhaul especially in the 8th. omar waited until 2008.
after 2008: it’s obvious the mets need to add 2 quality starters + a bat (grit, or speedster spark, or pop).
after 2009: mets choke again and then omar sign vlad guerrero instead manny this year.
Manny Ramirez welcome to Queens.
People who are screaming on Omar and the Wilpons have the long term memory of a tadpole. Are you guys serious????? What were we able to do last yr? (Santana) 2006? (Delgado, LoDuca, Wagner) 2005? (Beltran, Pedro)
People, these are the YANKEES we are talkin about! No matter what we do, we’ll never be on the same platform as them. You know what? I like that! They are the most hated team in baseball and the majority of their fans who love them are nothing but front runner, fair weather fans.
You people need to seriously man down!
u dont want to be better than the yankees?? ok then go be a front runner with the yankees fans then
That’s not even remotely close to what the guy said.
“People, these are the YANKEES we are talkin about! No matter what we do, we’ll never be on the same platform as them. You know what? I like that!”
keep going…
lol..alright i read it wrong im sorry
Relax, pimp. Ofcourse I want to be better than the Yankees. Ive been rooting for the Mets since the Kevin McReynolds and Gregg Jefferies days (Im 26). But I want my team to EARN it! I want to earn it by outsmarting the Twins into giving up the best pitcher in baseball for a few nobodys. I like the way my gm takes his time and doesnt run around like Chicken Little (Cashman). Please dont ever question my Met fandom again. I would rather pour hot lava down my pants then root for the yankees.
ok pimp..im sorry…i do agree with u that cashmans way of making moves is very annoying and stupid and i do like how omar waits and gets it done the right way
Can’t wait for the next big signing which might be Tim Redding
I always wanted manny, but as soon as free agency hit I thought he was going to be too expensive for us and we wouldn’t be able to address other needs. Now we have no excuse and I think should go for it. He takes away a lot of stress from delgado and wright. I hope we get him along with sheets.
Baseball has officially jumped the shark
hahaha good one! fonzi!!
Yankees:
JoJo Reyes SP
Brandon Jones OF
Chas Lundhal SS
Ferdin Tejada RP
Braves:
Nick Swisher 1B/OF
Is there a source for this Swisher trade rumor?
That sounds like a poor trade for the Braves, and I like Swisher a lot.
It would have been nice for the Mets to have dumped Delgado and signed Tex, but oh well…. I’ve got a bad feeling that the whole Madoff situation with the Wilpons is going to really affect the rest of the off-season.
Congrats to the Yanks, but it seems like they’re making all the moves in NY. The Mets made some nice moves, but to me it’s not enough. They need to make more moves if they really want to dominate. Right now, they’re about even with the Phills. If they want to shut them up, then they gotta make one or more big moves to make it complete. C’mon Omar, grow some will ya!
The Yankees will go broke on these signings….yes, I said broke.
two years ago the team broke even on their payroll during the highest revenue YTD in MLB and that was before they lost their big season ticket holders. what ticket holders you say?
AIG, Lehman Bros, Merrill, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Bear Stearns and a few other co that represent big time bulk revenue.
I know for a fact that AIG, Merrill, Goldman and JP morgan will cut their ties after the 2009 season (they already paid up front for next year) because since they took bailout money, they are being forced to eliminates such perks. (AIG is giving up all of its sports tix by mandate of the government)
in addition, their regular season ticket holders are still hedging on signing up for tickets that will cost $500k per year.
yes, four seats that once cost $82k for the year are now just short of $500k, and who do you think could afford those tickets? yes those who WORKED for the previously mentioned companies.
any wife who lets her husband spend that kind of money in todays economic conditions is an idiot. Hank and Hal are partying like its 2004 and will not be able to reverse course until it is too late
so…when the bankrupt Yankees go to Congress for a bailout, will the Senators ask for pay concessions from Tex, CC, AJ or ARod?
you think i jest, but after 2009, the Yanks will be losing around 30-40 million a year with committments from here to eternity
wow…i really hope so
somebody’s jealous…
seems like your a yankee fan with all that nonsense..get a hobby man
You are absolutely right with the idea that the Yankees are completely out of touch with whats going on w their customers right now. Unless markets recover soon they will start feeling major pain in 2010.
the market ALWAYS recovers
Dumping Nady’s salary should make sense now — maybe for Nick Evans (in AAA as backup 3B) & Carlos Muniz (bullpen fodder)? Then we put X in LF, using Tatis as backup 1B/3B. Next, if we sign Lowe, we also sign Boras client Alex Cora for backup 2B/SS.
Next, if Peavy waves his no-trade, offer Niese, Flores & Murphy for Peavy.
Nothing fixes 2B, but even so:
Santana – Peavy – Lowe – Pelfrey – Maine
K-Rod – Putz – Sanchez – whoever
Reyes – Castillo – Wright – Delgado – Beltran – Nady – Church – catcher; bench = Tatis, Reed, Cora, 2nd catcher, 1 other guy.
if only it was that easy
You don’t think the Yankees can get more than two AAAA players for Nady?
Meh, they way overpayed. He had a hot few months then regressed back to his career norms, which are borderline every day player type numbers. I don’t think he’s worth that much, especially with so many outfield options still on the market.
mets=second rate. let’s go sign some schlubs and nail down second place. omar, get real and SIGN MANNY BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!
2nd place is fine as long as we get the wildcard
never make it to the WS without a legit clutch cleanup hitter. tex is gone. sign manny!
i’ve wanted Manny here since the season ended.
Even at 37 he’s the 2nd best hitter in baseball and those concerned about him being a problem.
If Manny cant be happy playing on a spanish speaking team, than he wont be happy anywhere…
2ND BEST PLAYER?? hes #1 to me
Umm Pujols and Ortiz? I’ll take them easily over Manny.
Pujols has him beat
Pujols is the best…but Manny is DEF a better bat than Ortiz nowadays…
The Nationals are going to be in on Manny too.
The Manny campaign begins again!.
Manny 09′
trade delgado to the angels, sign manny, and get murph taking some grounders at first
I tip my hat to the Yankees. Sure they’ve done it all by throwing money around, but they got two of the prime players in baseball who are also good characters in Tex and CC (Burnett is overpaid and will break down).
The Mets have played a near perfect offseason. They gotten some unfortunate depressing press with the Maldoff stuff, but now is the time for the Mets to rebound and say to their fans and the sports world that they will go all out and that they won’t choke like they did last year or the Jets are currently do.
Payroll be damned – they should sign BOTH Manny and Lowe.
It’s a one-year bump in salary as Delgado and Wagner come off the books in ‘09; though if the Mets are payroll conscious they can always deal Delgado at that point to the Angels for Scott Shields or another reliever and get some salary relief, while playing Murphy at first base.
I semi-agree, I would prefer Dunn and Lowe because of age/cost. But there’s no way it happens. =/
haha Dunn over Manny. Manny is a better hitter at age 37 than Dunn will ever be and i’d give Manny 3 years 75 mil in a second…
you are right bro. dunn is a lefty schlub…just what the mets do NOT need. manny IS the answer.
Please the Wilpons might think that Dunn would cost too much money too
NOW THAT TEX IS A STANKEE, OMAR NEEDS TO GET OFF HIS BUTT AND SIGN LOWE, MANNY AND HUDSON. IF THE STANKS CAN DO ALL THESE SIGNINGS THEN SO CAN THE METS. IF OMAR SAYS THE METS OFFENSE IS OK, THEN TRADE HIM FOR ANOTHER GM!
Its not the GM its the Wilpons
I would just like to say and i’m positive I speak for everyone when I say what a JOKE the yankees are. It seems like they would try to realize that it takes a team to win, not a bunch of overpayed/overhyped/Injury Prone yahoos. It will be my pleasure to watch the demise of this team and hopefully franchise as spending the amount of money they have right now during our economic woes it makes me sick. Thats all I have to say about that. With the new stadiums will come a change. New York now belongs to the Mets!
YAYY
ALRIGHT MATT….TIME FOR A POLL…WANT MANNY RAMIREZ…..ON THE METS……
MY GUESS WOULD BE 97 PERCENT YES 3 PERCENT NO
According to Yahoo Sports, the Mets are in “deep discussions” for Derek Lowe….
Get er done Omar!
the problem is though, the Mets have to outbid the Red Sox b/c if the money is the same, no non-hispanic player would choose the Mets over the Red Sox
You’re joking, right?
please explain why Lowe or any non-hispanic would choose the Mets over the Red Sox???
Maybe that non-hispanic would like to pitch in a pitcher’s park in the national league. Maybe that non-hispanic would like to play in NY after having been there and done that in Boston. Maybe that non-hispanic sees the Mets offseason improvements as signficant enough to give them a good chance to get to the world series, while battling with only one other team as opposed to two other teams in the AL East.
Perhaps that non-hispanic is not a racist and could care less what the ethnicity of his teammates would be.
how about the fact that
1) the Red Sox are a better team
2) the Red Sox have a better chance of making the playoffs
3) the Red Sox have a better chance of winning the world series
dont call me a racist.
ceterus paribus, the only reason i can think of to choose the Mets over the Red Sox is that its a hispanic player who wants to play for a predominately hispanic team and live in a very hispanic area or the player is a New Yorker…
Did you know that these f**king yankees spent 423.5 million dollars on three players: The 900 pound Sabathia, the injury waiting to happen Burnett, and the 3 dollar bill Teixeira. Before you know it they are going to be broke. What really is going to f**k them up is signing Manny. Cashmen said he was going to sign him by the end of the week for 3 years and 75 million dollars. Jeter says he wants Manny on the team. The reason why is because Jeter (Or the man who is about 35 and still not married to a women anyway) wants to get in Manny’s pants.
Thanks I needed that laugh since this stankee signing has almost ruined my xmas… Maybe this helps our chances of getting manny though
Is the 3-dollar bill comment a jab at Teixeira’s sexuality? Wow.
i didnt get the 3 dollar bill joke but the comment above me made me break out in hysterical tears..im still laughing wow
Given the fortune the Yankees have now spent (again) why are teams like Toronto, KC, Texas, etc. even bothering to play out the season. There is no fairness in all this. Why not a cap on how much all teams may spend to procure players? How can the others hope to compete?
there should be a minimum and maximum salary cap in baseball
Mets closing in on LOWE!!!!!!!!!!!
A nice perk for us (via Yahoo Article):
The Mets’ bargaining position also is enhanced by the fact that rehab coordinator Chris Correnti, who was brought on board to work with the Pedro Martinez, has trained Lowe for the last 11 years.
Why did my comment appear a few spaces up?
they are all doing that for some reason…the three down below are messsed up
Don’t believe anyone with the word diarrhea in their screen name…..words to live by.
I’ve never complained about the new comments section. Now I am. This is lame.
no biggie, if the mets weren’t getting him anyway.
I think the Mets should sign Baldelli for the OF mix. COuld end up being a steal.
As to the Yanks, they lost their best pitcher and signed 2, 1 of whom is a injury timebomb.
And with tex, they have upgraded infield D, but ofensively, losing Abreu and Giambi for Tex and (Gardner? Swisher?) isn’t really making hem better.
Wow, just like the old days. A nice, well thought out, clean post goes into the netherworld!
Try again: Sign Baldelli for the OF rotation. COuld be a steal.
Yanks get better 1B D, but the rest (O) is a wash.
Remember, they signed guys, but lost their “ace” from last year, and GIambi and Abreu were a lot of offfense.
Wow, just like the old days. A nice, well thought out, clean post goes into the netherworld!
Try again: Sign Baldelli for the OF rotation. COuld be a steal.
Yanks get better 1B D, but the rest (O) is a wash.
???
Remember, they signed guys, but lost their “ace” from last year, and GIambi and Abreu were a lot of offfense.
I dont understand why everyone is flipping out here about the yankees? why are you so preoccupied with them? They signed cc (nice, we have johan) they signed aj (injury waiting to happen, they WAY overpaid for them, I would have had no interest in him) and now tex (great signing, great player, but we had no interest in him) so what exactly is the problem here? It was common knowledge that the lowe/ollie/manny negotiations were NOT going to pick up until AFTER tex signed…if nothing else, im happy the guy signed so that we can all move on with our lives!!!
according to MLBTR mets in deep discussions for lowe. come on mets get it done for back page.
:)
You hear how Joe and Evan are speculating about Manny to the Mets? Oh boy.
i missed that, were they really? wheelhouse guys didnt say anything about that possibility, waiting to see if these loudmouth guys are thinking what we’re thinking…I DO hear that we are deep into discussions with lowe, though, which is a good thing
Yeah they brought it up about Manny because of what the Halos said, then with the Yanks breaking the bank for Tex, they were like, well, why not… I think it was Evan but he really wasn’t excited to bring Manny to NY but would root for him regardless if he doesn’t bring a circus-drama show to NY and actually produces. Which Manny does, and I don’t think I’d be against it – if they get him at the right price. Are the Dodgers really out of the race for Manny though?
sign Manny Ramirez to a 4 year contract
4 years 90 million , club option pickup for the 4th year
2009 – 18 mill
2010- 23 mill
2011-24 mill
2012 ( club option pick up) 25 million
Eduardo,
Why go 4 years? No team has even wanted to go to three years.
3 year offer.
Carlin on Loud Mouths just said that he doesn’t think Manny will happen.
and Carlin is just guessing just like all the talk show hosts…
cant keep backloading every big contract…its gonna hurt you at some point…in 2012 they have 56.5 mil dedicated to krod wright and santana alone…and reyes and beltran will be free agents…pelfrey will be making much more…if you sign lowe to a 4 yr deal you can add atleast 15 mil to that…so figure ab 75 mil dedicated to 4 players in 2012 and if you resign reyes then thats bringing you up to atleast 85 maybe 90 million for 5 players…you have to have 20 other players for around at that time prob 60-70 million…thats not going to be fun
yeah, 4 years is totally out of control…it would have to be 2 with the 3rd as the option…dont forget, they plan on having fmart in lf for probably ‘11, if not definitely in ‘12.
im not going thru 315 comments, but here’s the latest news, as of about an hour and a half ago….
According to Yahoo’s Gordon Edes, the Mets are deep in negotiations with free agent starter Derek Lowe. However, the Mets have yet to make an offer.
Ac–cording to Yahoo’s Gordon Edes, the Mets are deep in negotiations– with free agent starter Derek Lowe. Ho–wever, the Mets have yet to make an offer.
got “blocked” before..guess cuz i copied and pasted…so if my other one comes up, sorry to repeat…
Ok so Sny says the mets will prob get manny along with other media outllets, but still everyone here says no way? Whats going to happen?
Don’t trust the media.Until Manny signs on the dotted line, he’s nothing more then a pipe dream for Mets fans.They might have to go after Dunn(oh god) or Milton Bradley(Oh No!).
manny IS the answer for the mets to go to the WS the next 2-3 yrs
As they say, If Manny is the answer, the question is rediculous.
Where did SNY say the Mets will get Manny & what other media outlets say the same thing.
There are no sure things in offseason deals, remember the Mets had no chance of dealing for Johan Santana last offseason.
How many times the Santana scenario must be brought up, then debunked.People said the Mets had no chance because the Yanks and Sauxs had better prospects and baseball analysts thought one of the two would have dealt their prospect for Santana.Both the Yanks and Saux decide not to trade, so Santana fell to the Mets.Manny is not going to fall to the Mets.The Dodgers pulled their offer, but are going to be back in it.The Angel are blowing smoke up the media collective ***** with the “we’re not interest in manny” nonsense.So unless The Mets outbid those teams,something I will have to see to believe, Manny is still a slim chance at best to be a Met.
Not to mention they have to negotiate with Lowe first.
i knew sum1 was going to agree with loud mouth well if accepts a 2 year deal than of course do that but if you dodgers up the anty on there offer y not offer 4 years its not like your going to pick it up thats y its a club option and if he still has it at that age then u think about it but you would still always turn it down and he would only be making 65 million for 3 years and thats worth it
Haha I look forward to the yanks going broke.
btw this new comment format is garbage.
You’re delusional. The Yankees lost 80 million in payroll and only added 60.Not to mention, unlike The Wilpons, Steinbrenner didn’t invest with Bernie Madoff.
Manny and Lowe. It’s going to happen. C’MON METS SPEND THE MONEY!!!!
mets vs dodgers for manny, get it done along with lowe
does anyone know how to change your username?
“whom” the mets prefer to sign
does anyone recall what the dodgers initial offer to manny was a while ago? I know it was 2 yrs, but dont remember the $$.
I want to say $45MM but I’m not entirely sure…
You are correct: 2 years, $45 million, made in November.
I guess we’ll have to wait and see what winds up happening with lowe…again, I have no idea what our payroll # is, so all of this is purely speculation anyway….
lets just get lowe and others out of the way…we all know that manny is going to be one of the last to sign so instead of waiting around lets fill up some other holes…sign lowe..a lefty for the pen..and a backup infielder..then go HARD for manny and if we dont get him we will still be in good shape
Signing Lowe will be a huge mistake…mark my words.
Not only is he gonna suck on the last 2 years of a 4 year deal cause he’s old but he’s not even going to be that good his first 2 years.
If Mets were smart, they would sign the guy who has proven he could pitch in New York, still has loads of potential, is entering his prime, and is a lefty….Sign Oliver Perez….
our payroll right now is around 118 mil counting arbitration guys
Manny will remain a Dodger now or end up with the Nationals.. Yankees out… Angels are out and the Mets ownership is too dam cheap!
Just a personal feeling, I know of nothing to substantiate this, but I think the Nats were in on Teixeira due to the fact that he grew up nearby (as well as being young and a good all-around player). I doubt they’re in on Manny. It’s between the Dodgers and themselves, unless Omar changes the Wilpon’s minds.
ok..well yankees got tex..angels dont want manny..sox dont want manny..we NEED manny..im putting my money on that we get manny ramirez..if the freakin wilpon clan doesnt realize that..then they are retarted
u r right bro
Omar, bring Manny back home. Get it done!!!
As if this day couldn’t get any worse, Bill Price of the NY Daily News writes, “Not sure if you saw this in Raissman today, but Chris Carlin will be replacing Matt Yallof on SNY for the Mets pre- and post-game shows this year.”
I just threw up in my mouth a little…yuck
Hmm. I’ve read a lot of negative opinions of Yallof in here in the past, but he was fine with me. I’ll try to keep an open mind about Carlin, but I’m not excited.
Are you kidding me??? This guy is not that great
I didn’t support this before, and I would hate to be labeled a reactionary, but the Mets need to sign Manny. And Lowe. Now.
Manny and Lowe/Ollie. Please get it done Omar.
lowe is not enough. manny is ESSENTIAL for the mets to go to the WS
Is there really any among you who thinks we’re going to get Manny? I’ve ruled that out completely, but looking at his remaining suitors I have to wonder if there is some small chance.
why not? dont the wilpons WANT to go to the WS? then sign MANNY!
I don’t know what the wilpons are thinking right now, but the rest of the world is waiting for us to sign this dude. It wouldn’t hurt to at least offer.
They’re still agonizing over the $300 million they lost. :)
Seriously, there are no excuses right now. Lowe and Manny are within our reach and very attainable. The market really shaped up well for Omar.
someone answered my question, and said we’re at like 118 million right now…I cant recall what last years # was, but I think it was like 140? Lowe is gonna be 15ish…that puts us at 133…we’re going to spend probably 5-10 on misc guys (5th pitcher?/utility infielder?) that puts us over 140….manny would be an additional what, 22-25?? I just dont know how realistic it is sounding….
Well if Matt would help us by creating a poll asking us if we feel Omar should sign Manny and over 95% said yes, I think the organization would realize the fans are serious about Manny…. I have to believe that someone in the organization has the job of finding out what the fans want threw blogs and the internet…. I know we dont have the power to make them spend the money but atleast we can let them know what we want in hopes that they make a move…. I really think the club needs Manny’s bat and it would put us over the top as he would really protect our other bats in the lineup…. The power of the people and the internet cannot be under-estimated, lets let Omar know that the fans think Manny is what we need to atleast win the NL east and push for that world series title…. with Lowe/Perez, Manny, and a veteran 5th starter in the rotation on top of the new bullpen we are primed to win now….. lets get Manny and win now…. what do you say?????
I don’t think you’d get 95 percent. I know I for one would vote no. I don’t want an effin head case like that. He’s a no good lazy bum, and this isn’t a contract year. What are we, the Yankees? And I know a lot of people are in the same boat as me.
Seriously, who’d want Manny unless he had a non-guaranteed NFL-type contract, which is impossible with the MLB players union. This is the guy who quit on his team over and over again, taunted his own team and their ownership on the bench, then after ALL 24 players told Epstein to trade him, he was traded and not missed. Then he suddenly became “serious.” For money. For Boras’s pocket. And remember Boras telling the Red Sox Manny could be theirs again in 2009? I’d like a ring; however, I like having a soul, too.
Manny quit on the Red Sox because they didnt offer him a serious extension… they quit on manny so manny quit on them…. If you dont think they missed him your wrong…. Its obvious the red sox died towards the end of the season cause they lost their best player and its gunna show in the long run next season… Manny is a stud and one of the top 5 players in baseball easy, the mets need that to add to their team…. If Manny comes to queens his personalitly will thrive in this fun club house with the intensity of Reyes and KROD and all the handshakes and dances, especially with the spanish speaking majority and manager…. Not to mention the media and attention will raise Manny up to another level cause we know he loves attention, all signs point to this being a great move, plus the majority of our current players hate the media attention Manny will help the other guys hide out and bring out the best in out ball club, isnt that what we need???
First, I read your comment because of your username alone.
Second, Jerry Manual speaks Spanish?
Joe how can you hate on Bobby V??? He is the ultimate Met…. He took average talent and went all the way to the world series…. Secondly Jerry Manuel is spanish so I would think he spoke the language…. It was said that Delgado didnt play hard for Willie but when Manuel the spanish manager took over he took off….
Born in Madrid, perhaps?
I just can believe that Derek Lowe is a $15M+ per year guy, I mean I know that the cost of pitching has skyrocket, but jeesh people are making him out to be a top #2 guy in the rotation and he aint that
How does three years for $30M the Red Sox signed Beckett for a couple of years ago look
I definitely hear you on that one…When the offseason was just starting, Lowe’s original # was in the neighborhood of 18!!! Lowe is definitely gonna get like 15….Ollie is probably gonna get like 12-14….Thats all i’m saying…everyone here is saying go get manny, and while I would love to get him, I’m just trying to get a feel for how realistic it is….(even though we dont know their exact magic number, we can see where we are compared to last year, maybe add a bit of wiggle room, and take it from there) I’m trying to track down last years payroll now…
if we dont get manny its not because of omar its because of the wilpons…we had a chance to get him in 05..a chance to get him at the allstar break..what makes now any different…i really want manny to be a met but i am not confident it will happen unless omar can change the wilpon and co’s mind
I mean I dont get the reason for comments waiting on moderation and give the Metsblog guys the benefit of the doubt that is necessary, but it really does change the whole flow of the blog
you gotta do what you gotta do I guess
I’m tired of the Mets being the #2 baseball team in town behind the Yankees.
Growing up, this was a Mets town and except for 2 years in the 70s the Yankees were afterthoughts.
For a long time, there was serious discussions about the Yanks moving to Jersey. It’’s time that the Wilpons got serious and moved this team forward.
Enough.
Let them have CC, AJ, Tex, and No Rod.
If we get Lowe and Manny we have a championship caliber team. It’s been way too long.
We’ve got Citifield $$$, SNY, and a hungry fan base.
Time to take back the city.
NO MANNY!!!!!!!!
He is a cancer, old, does not play hard and cannot play defense. No!!!! If he regrets his contract a month into the signing, he will start faking injuries again. STOP THE MADNESS.
(and how can anyone call the mets cheap when that have the 2nd or 3rd highest payroll in baseball)
The fans calling the Mets cheap are doing it by comparing the Mets payroll with respect to their incoming revenue.
The Angels are not going to sign Manny – who does that leave? Dodgers and Mets? C’mon Omar, sign Manny and bring back Ollie….you KNOW you want to!
we need pitching, SP, that is what we need the most, if we have enough money left to sign Manny, so be it, I don’t know if he will be a good fit for the Mets ( with his “Manny being Manny), but as long as he show up and play hard I’m all for it, we can always go for another crazy hitter like Bradley, he ain’t Manny but it could work.
Valentine, the Sox quit on Manny so he quit on them, that is what you r saying? first he was making a ton of money paid by the Sox, his team was in a pennat race and he was crying because he want an extension or more money, common ask Andre Dawson if that is a proper way to conduct yourself being a Professional ball player.
He doesn’t like the media, and he is a moron.
Re-sign Perez, let Manny stay in LA and sign Adam Dunn.
Adam Dun – 2008
• Ranks 2nd in NL in HR (40)
• Ranks 1st in NL in BB (122)
• Ranks 9th in NL in OBP (.386)
• Ranks 9th in NL in OPS (.898)
1. If we get Manny we aint getting Lowe.
(It would be ollie if anything)
2.I like Manny but I mean comeon he is great but not godsend. For atleast 7 mill cheaper is a guy who will get it Dunn. (Aka Adam Dunn.)Hes younger and just as big a power hitter as Manny
I would love for the mets to Get Lowe, Redding, and Dunn. Hope Omar does this. Any1 think the way I do on some of the things?
Why is my comment waiting moderation? For almost ½ hour
I know this seems crazy cause i have been all about signing Manny but what if we didnt and went a completely different direction. What if Omar went wild and signed Lowe and Perez???? Then the rotation could be Santana Lowe Perez Pelfrey Maine….. Lefty, Righty, Lefty, Righty…… That is a dominating rotation, I know we need another power bat but imagine that rotation??? If we dont use the money on Manny lets get two dominating pitchers, one or the other Omar lets bring this home….
a recession???
says who?
wilpons are obviously fools….see the link for proof. but i give omar credit
nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/2008/12/ramirez_to_the_mets_not_so_fas.html
If I were a Yankee fan, I’d be embarras-sed and ashamed right now. Because my team can’t get anywhere without PEDs and/or mas-sive amounts of money. They failed by traditional coaching and drafting and development and now there is stricter drug testing so their only recourse is to pour on the money ….
And still they have their stinkin’ tin cups out to the city and state for further tax breaks. What a joke they are.
I am almost glad the Wilpons were burned by Madoff. It almost ensures they won’t go down a mad money path the way the Yankees have … though even without Madoff I doubt they would have done so anyway.
I never want the Mets to be like the Yankees. They are a disgrace to baseball and bad for the game. They are the devil.
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If I were a Yankee fan, I’d be ashamed right now. Because my team can’t get anywhere without PEDs and/or humongous amounts of money. They failed by traditional coaching and drafting and development and now there is stricter drug testing so their only recourse is to pour on the money ….
And still they have their stinkin’ tin cups out to the city and state for further tax breaks. What a joke they are.
I am almost glad the Wilpons were burned by Madoff. It almost ensures they won’t go down a mad money path the way the Yankees have … though even without Madoff I doubt they would have done so anyway.
I hope the Mets never spend like the Yankees who are a disgrace to baseball and bad for the game. They are evil incarnate!
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If I were a Yankee fan, I’d be ashamed right now. Because my team can’t get anywhere without PEDs and/or humongous amounts of money. They failed by traditional coaching and drafting and development and now there is stricter drug testing so their only recourse is to pour on the money ….
If I were a Yankee fan, I’d be ashamed right now. Because my team can’t get anywhere without steroids and/or humongous amounts of money. They failed by traditional coaching and drafting and development and now there is stricter drug testing so their only recourse is to pour on the money ….
WHY IS MY COMMENT WAITING MODERATION!!???
What’s wrong with it? There’s no profanity, no personal attacks. Why because I criticized the Mets????!!!
Just try rephrasing words you usually don’t type or stick a bunch of asterisks in stead of vowels.
you probably used the word “c-l-a-s-s” or a-s-s-u-m-e”