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Relief Pitcher: Who is Ken Takahashi
By Matthew Cerrone - Dec 26, 2008 3:16 pm

Last month, NPB Tracker said the Mets are the front-runners to sign Japanese free-agent LHP Ken Takahashi, who was 8-5 with a 3.50 ERA in 21 games last season for the Hiroshima Toyo Carp.

According to the report, Takahashi hopes to sign with a new team by the end of the year.

Today, also on NPB Tracker, Patrick takes a closer look at Takahashi, detailing his ‘mechanics and stuff,’ and what’s next for the relief pitcher.

In the end, Patrick writes, “Given that Takahashi will be 40 next April and will have to adjust to a full-time relief role in the America, I think he’s in for a little bit of an uphill battle.  Still, he had a nice string of successful starts at the beginning of last season, is left handed and seems to have a couple of decent breaking pitches, so if he’s in the right role and environment I could see him being a useful pitcher.”

115 Responses to “Relief Pitcher: Who is Ken Takahashi”

  1. twofours44 says:

    no thanks

  2. SantanaClause says:

    okay fine he can be a usefull pitcher just not for the Mets i dont trust anyone 40+ playing MLB for the 1st time

  3. jws366 says:

    I’d give him a one year deal for no more than a million. Maybe he’ll be able to have a decent showing considering no hatters will have ever seen him pitch before. But anything more than a one year contract is a waste…we might as well sign someone where we know what we are going to get.

    • SantanaClause says:

      the no hitters have seen him before goes to ways sure they’re unfamiliar with him but he’s unfamiliar with them i’d rather have Ricardo Rincon (who i dont want to begin with) than Ken Takashi.

  4. number15 says:

    40 yr old relief pitcher who had moderate success in Japan…exciting stuff

  5. tonym says:

    Should have kept Showeneweiss. What a pointless trade that was…

  6. fongulalou says:

    Hey Omar!, Let’s Get Serious Here!
    This Team Has Two Very Obvious Needs,
    In Order To Really Compete for a Title.
    A #2 SP who doesn’t live on the DL and likes
    Playing in/under Pressure. –AND–
    A Righty-Hitting RBI guy for either Left or Right. Find a Way To Get This Done!
    It Only Requires Cash and We Ain’t The San
    Diego Padres AND This Ain’t San Diego.
    We’re Going On a Quarter Century Now.
    Think About It For A Couple Seconds.
    Go Get Lowe And Manny AND throw in
    Cora( To Insure Us Against Your Second-
    -Base Folly Of Last Winter) And Let’s
    Win A Championship Already.

  7. strawgooden says:

    we dont need another masato yoshii

  8. captain_clutch17 says:

    Besides Yoshii, what Asian pitcher ever worked out for us?

  9. captain_clutch17 says:

    He was average at best

  10. JMPLAYA92 says:

    He’s too old.. but might be an upgrade.. hopefully if the mets do get him only for one to 2 years

  11. x-nady says:

    Why isn’t there more talk about the Mets jumping in and signing Andy Pettit? I mean, if we are going to sign an Old Lefty, why not one who we know won’t have a problem adjusting to MLB? The word is that the Yanks are not budging on their 1 year 10 Million offer and may even withdraw the offer. Omar should throw 11-13 Million at him for a Year. Why not? Especially if the Yanks are going to leave him hanging. He likes New York, and would get to face weaker lineups in the NL. What better way to stick it to Hank? That would push Neise back to AAA, and he could step in when we need him as opposed to being a necessity. If we sign Lowe as well, the mets would have a nasty balanced rotation.

  12. RodKanehl says:

    Nothing but the finest for the Mets. We get guys who are over the hill, guys whose cosy has come down, guys who no other major market team wants. No wonder we are forever the second tem in NY.

    • dave27 says:

      The Yankees will be happy to have you on their bandwagon, at least until you complain about minor-league deals to roster longshots in their blogs as well.

      • Ho, Ho, Ho says:

        If he is a paying customer the Wilpons will love him just as much as the Steinbrenner’s. The Yankees already draw over 4 million so lets not go and chase fans away.

  13. sabermetrician says:

    This would be a minor move if we made it and would have to be followed up by signing some other LHRP. The idea of signing Andy Pettite is a poor one. We don’t want to commit to guys who are essentially done. That’s part of why we haven’t won the past two seasons (Glavine, Pedro, El Duque, Julio Franco, Moises Alou, etc.).

  14. Chris Alvino says:

    This move makes some sense. If the guy has talent, he will come cheaply. We all have to realize that this team needs to fill holes beyond Derek Lowe and Manny Ramirez. You can never have enough pitching, especially when it comes to bullpen options.

    • Gina says:

      It makes sense but there are other arms available that make more sense. Juan Cruz, and Ohman for one.

      Though I do agree we have other holes to fill, I’d like to hear that they have replacements for the bench in mind. Because I certainly don’t want to go into next season with Anderson and Easley + a 3rd catcher again, when there are much better options available in free agency.

      • Hit The Weights Zeile says:

        I know we have other voids to fill but like Gina says there are other people more established in the MLB out there such as juan cruz or if you need a lefty will ohman. frankly we do need another lefty but in my opinion considering the money will be similar id rather have ohman than this guy.

        • oleosmirf says:

          id rather spend the money on Manny and let Rirardo Rincon and others battle it out for a bullpen role

          id rather spend the money on Manny and bring in redding instead of Wolf

          i mean its not even close honestly Manny + Redding + Rincon > any other option at LF + Wolf + Ohman

  15. scottmetsfan says:

    speaking of whom, we haven’t heard much about anderson being moved or cut or anything. i know he has another year’s contract but he was terrible last year. maybe it’s just too early in the off season.

  16. nostradamus says:

    mets say no to manny, but yes to this old schlub lol. laughable. re-sign alou :P

  17. oleosmirf says:

    we havent heard any news about this guy for about a month.

    obviously the mets were interested at nothing more than a minor league deal which cant hurt at all…

  18. Flushing_is_Burning says:

    NO thank you! contrary to popular belief, 40 is not the new 30.

  19. sabermetrician says:

    I agree. If this is a minor league deal it’s very smart. Then you can still make a move to get Ohman or some other LHRP. We are hearing very little on the left field front. I would really like to know Omar’s take on it (not what he says to the media, but his real take). We know he will address the rotation and the pen more, but I wonder where we are going offensively (LF, 2B, bench).

  20. the_other_matt says:

    Our new LFer: “Sosa, who turned 40 on Nov. 12, is a free agent who had 21 home runs and 92 RBIs in 114 games in 2007 with the Texas Rangers.”

    Sosa: “Any team who wants to sign me should have the initiative and make an offer.”

  21. Slob says:

    I always love watching people post very indignant “NO!” answers when someone talks about signing some insignificant player to a minor league deal or something just over league minimum. It’s a lefty reliever. He could be the next Okajima or he could be released in spring training. Why say “NO!” at all?

    • dave27 says:

      Here here!

      Note the next post down says the Mets could “ruin” their offseason by signing this guy. PRICELESS!

      • Gland says:

        i totally agreecwith you two. this is the type of move you try, see if he has anything and if not cut him and move on. it’s not a big deal at all and people are freaking out for no reason

  22. m29w_12789 says:

    Who is this guy?
    Someone we have no business looking at !!!
    Let him go elsewhere!!!! Concentrate on Lowe and Ollie not this guy. This has been a good off season, don’t , don’t ruin it on him

  23. m29w_12789 says:

    I would sign Jesse Orosco before this guy!
    Seriuosly Ohman and Cruz would help alot more than this unproven guy coming over from a triple AAA league at age 40

  24. steadyeddie says:

    If the Jets don’t win Sunday, I’m going to get drunk on johnny walker red!

  25. elephants says:

    Typical Freddie Coupon way. Sign a POS (think Al Reyes here) and then blame Omar when this POS can’t make it.
    Throw good money after pieces of sh!t instead of doing what is necessary.
    Sign Manny and get your head out of your anal cavity.

    • Gland says:

      Yes I’m pretty sure Fred Wilpon is out signing this guy himself and then he’s going to blame Omar when it doesn’t work out.

      Geez this is an article from a month ago and everyone is getting all worked up.

  26. chasmets says:

    Sorry but just say NOOOO to Japanese players..We just have little luck with them for every Godzilla there’s a KAZ waiting to get out lol…

  27. rosemarymets says:

    i am somewhat intrigued by the Pettite idea mentioned earlier…the best thing about it is the one year deal…i would just love it if andy is doing well for us (he should do better in the nl) and burnett is on the dl for the cranks…but would he come here…i have no choice because the mets are in my blood and must be pretty biased because i think the mets are amazin (even when they are folding)…

    • x-nady says:

      Thats why I am surprised Pettit to the Mets has not even been whispered as rumor. I mean if I was Pettits agent I would at the very least try to get the Mets involved to force the Yanks hand.

      Mets need a lefty starter. Contrary to what the other poster said above about it being a “poor idea”, Petit for one year with a slight increase over 10 million seem like a better idea than all the Reddings, Marquises, Wolf’s & Garlands combined. I mean we are talking about our #5 starter! I don’t know how a one year deal is tantamount to a “commitment”.

      Mets have a new stadium, weaker lineups in the NL, Petit likes new york and the Yanks are rumored to pull their offer. Just seems like a no brainer to me.

      Johan
      Lowe
      Maine
      Pettit
      Big Pelf

      That is a formidable rotation.

  28. The Captain says:

    dont sign this guy too old, no dice. I dont even like lowe, old, costly, give up draft pick for him too? no dice. ON oliver Perez, he was worth the risk when he was making no $, now he’ll need big bucks, no dice.

    Omar should use the same way of thinking when he got Oliver Perez as he a was valuable risk while making no $. I think Mets should take a risk by trading for Ian Snell as he has potential, and probably not costing much, coming off a bad year and could be a possible fixture.

  29. phukthephills says:

    hey everyone i was reading a blog on a different site and saw something that someone wrote that looked very interesting…here it is

    “”"”"1. The Jays are having financial problems, they have already made BJ Ryan, Vernon Wells and Lyle Overbay available.

    2. When Halladay signed his current deal he was promised that the jays would be a championship caliber team sooner rather then later. That has not happened, add in the fact they have to compete with a revamped Yankee team, a solid built Red Sox team and a young talented Rays team, the odds of the Jays winning anytime soon is very slim. Halladay has also recently expressed his displeasure in the Jays current direction and the Jays have hinted that dealing Hallady is not a stretch.

    3. Roy Hallay will be 32 in May which means he in entering the later years of his prime. He has stated that he wants to win and be a major piece of a championship team, that opportunity is closing for him.

    4. The Padres are trying to deal Peavy because they know it doesn’t make sense to hold on to an ace when the rest of the team is awful. They know that by dealing an ace they can fill multiple holes in one deal. Halladay to the Jays is the same issue as Peavy to the Pares. Trading a top pitcher now when the odds of competing anytime during his best years is very unlikely in their current state. By filling multiple holes each team (Jays and Padres) would be a step closer to rebuilding and a step closer to eventually becoming a revamped team and thus increasing their chances of winning in a few years when these young players develop.

    A three team deal involving the Jays, Mets and Dodgers like the following…

    Dodgers get – Vernon Wells, Ryan Church and Luis Castillo

    Mets get – Roy Hallady

    Jays get – Andre Either, Matt Kemp, Andruw Jones (Dodgers pay 80% of contract), Brent Leach, John Maine, Eddie Kunz and Bobby Parnell.

    This deal would satisfy each teams current needs.

    Why it works for the Dodgers – Dodgers rid themselves of Jones and they receive a big name OF in Wells to replace Manny, a lefty bat with a high upside and not to mention a native south Californian in Church. Castillo takes over at 2B, which moves DeWitt to his natural 3B. If Castillo falters they have Mark Loretta to fill in. Casey Blake moves to a corner OF position where he is most suited. The Dodgers then have a lefty/righty balaced and versatile OF with lefties, Pierre and Church and righties Wells and Blake.

    Why it works for the Mets – Roy Halladay gives the Mets a solid 1-2 combo with Santana. Dealing for a #2 pitcher rather then signing one then gives the Mets the option of signing 2 more type A or B free agents rather then 1 more if they where to sign Lowe. Mets also rid themselves of Castillo.

    Why it works for the Jays – They dump the salaries of Halladay and Wells, they receive four young cheap promising pitchers in Kunz, Parnell, Leach and Maine, two talented young OF’s in Either and Kemp and a veteran in Jones for one year at a significantly reduced price tag with the Dodgers picking up most of his salary. If Jones rebounds the Jays can then deal him at the deadline for a package of young players. If he continues to struggle then they just let him go after next season. “”"”"

    • phukthephills says:

      it wasnt my idea but i just found it interesting…we would be giving up too much in this situation but something along these lines

      • notsoAverageJoe says:

        that deal seems a little way to complicated considering that there are some many big name players in that trade and too many complicated contract with Halladay, Wells, jones and castillo.

        it makes a lot more sense if it is a one to one team deal between the mets and the jays. as much as i would love to have Halladay in a mets uniform, i do not think it will happen.

      • reillys5 says:

        this terrible..just terrible….while the mets need a #2 or #3 starter, (arguably) a left fielder, more help in the pen, and a utility infielder you want to trade a right fielder, infielder (terrible player in castillo but still), 2 young starters and a guy in kunz who has potential for a 32 year old starter (even though he is a beast)

        so by filling an unneeded hole, you are making about 5 more with that deal alone

        not to mention the fact if i were the dodgers i would never trade matt kemp or andre ethier ….and the fact that u think the jays would accept a deal that involved andrew jones is comical..the guy was clearly on roids while on the braves and hes beyond terrible now…..and i coudnt be more happy about it

    • SantanaClause says:

      wut site wuz that frum?

    • dave27 says:

      Looksl ike Omar created some monsters with that Putz deal.

    • Chris Alvino says:

      So the Mets give up 8 players for Halladay? Really? Did I count right? They open up a hole in right field, give up two of our top 3 pitching prospects, trade a young (inexpensive starter). If we get Kemp, then I would go through with that. Otherwise it seems a bit excessive for the Mets.

    • jws366 says:

      That deal would never happen in a million years. Andre Ethier and Matt Kemp are the future of the dodgers and getting vernon wells + ryan church would just be getting older outfielders with much less upside. And the Mets would never give up that much for ONE 32 year old player, i don’t care who the hell he is. Plus Maine earns like 400K a year or something ridiculously cheap like that. Why would we ever trade him on top of all those prospects?

      What a waste of time.

      • Gland says:

        not to mention that the dodgers would have to take back wells’ hige contact. not going to happen

    • oleosmirf says:

      haha the dodgers are going to give up all that for Vernon Wells and Ryan Church???

  30. notsoAverageJoe says:

    please no more Japanese players. have the mets not learned their lessons yet.

  31. SantanaClause says:

    Qut the mets need to win isn;t manny, lowe or anything like that whhat they need is a new version of metsmerized sumthin along the lines of
    I’m Mike Pelfrey and it may seem silly
    But the Mets are way better than the Phillies
    Jimmy Rollins who gives a #_(%
    When he steps up to the plate he’d better duck.

  32. steadyeddie says:

    Randy J to SF
    cheap deal
    nice move

  33. casey s. says:

    So, Lowe wants more money than Pedro ($60m+ over four years vs. Pedro’s $53m over four) and Lowe is three years older than Pedro was when he signed the deal with the Mets four years ago.

    Now, I know the arguments, they are two different types of pitchers, Lowe is 6′ 6″ with a huge frame, etc. But, still, Lowe turns 36 in June and wants a four year deal for big money. Not a smart deal.

    The Mets need to cap a deal at two years with a vesting third or walk.

    • SantanaClause says:

      If there were other options out there who weren’t named Ollie Perez then sure i’d agree with you but even if we do sign Ollie its gonna be for similar money maybe a lil less. Plus right now if someone signs ollie we regain our first round pick. if we resign him we lose it. We need Lowe or do you want the rotation to look like

      Santana
      Pelf
      Maine
      Neise
      Parnell

      and good news if anyone gets injured in that rotation we always have nelson figueroa to fill in
      Personally i’d perfer this rotation

      Santana
      Lowe
      Pelf
      Maine
      Redding

      With injury backups being Neise, Parnell, and Figgy.

      • oleosmirf says:

        exactly and because the Buffalo Bisons have a legit fan base, were going to see a competitive team up there, so that means some veterans that could be called up as well…

        • SantanaClause says:

          I no this sound awful but we need the Mets to be like Russia during the former USSR and the minor leagues to be like the satilite nations. In being that it is more important for the Father land (in this case the Mets) to thrive rather than the satilites ( the minor leagues). MEANING i would rather the Mets win the world series and all the minor league affiliates finish last than the mets miss the playoffs again and the minor league affiliates all win their respective divisions. Does that make sense or did i just really dig myself into a deep hole?

  34. SantanaClause says:

    Really Matt nothing today wut is with this every-other-day posting? Ur slippin Matt. SLIPPIN

    • KickedintheMetsiclesAgain says:

      Give Matt a break, its the holidays.

      The only new news from early Friday was the rumor that BIG UNIT signed with SF. Late Friday that was confirmed to be a one year- 8 million deal.

      I would have taken Unit for that price.

  35. sellitman says:

    Fail

  36. phukthephills says:

    from mlbtr.com

    “The Mets are in a great position since the Cards and Brewers aren’t likely to compete for Oliver Perez, Derek Lowe and Randy Wolf. This means they can wait, knowing that bargains will likely surface.
    The Mets have “quietly continued to gauge” the Luis Castillo market and are interested in moving him and some of his salary.
    If they find a taker, they could pursue Orlando Hudson.
    As Joel Sherman predicted, the Nationals are now courting O-Dog.”

  37. sabermetrician says:

    I would love to see the Mets pick up Lowe and Wolf at relatively modest prices. We could then afford to eat some of Castillo’s contract in a deal. If we could then pick up Orlando Hudson our offense would be much more dynamic than it has been the past two seasons. I would hope that we would still pursue left field options.

    • therealsince86 says:

      Have you looked at Hudson’s numbers? Not worth it and barely an improvement.
      Get Grudzy and a good LF with that Hudson money.

      I saw where the A’s may want a LH OF and do not want to pay Anderson or Abreu. Would it be worth it to see what we could get for Murphy or Church?

      • SantanaClause says:

        I’d shop them both but i’d have to be overwhelmed by an offer if they want murphy. Church would also have to get a nice return. I would want sumthing along the lines of Aaron Cunningham or Kurt Suzuki for either one or package both for Matt Holliday if you can sign him to a good length extention.

        • sabermetrician says:

          I agree that shopping Murphy would be a good move. I don’t think Church’s value is high enough to trade right now because of the lingering post concussion syndrome. I think Murphy is going to be a solid player, but I don’t think he’ll ever be an all-star. As for Hudson, he would be a great improvement over Castillo, offensively and defensively.

        • therealsince86 says:

          Actually what we should be pushing for is one of their young LHSP and a reliever. Then like them or not you could sign Abreu to play RF in place of Church. It would give you a young cheap LHSP in the rotation to compete with Niese.

  38. sabermetrician says:

    Last season Orlando Hudson had a value of $9.5 mil for the DBacks, while making $6.3 mil. Castillo had a value of $2.3 mil for the Mets while making the same $6.3 mil. That’s a huge difference in value. Not to mention that Hudson doesn’t show as many signs of regression as Castillo.

    • therealsince86 says:

      Ok as suming that Castillo is just as bad next year and Hudson is the same. Thus you would have to pay at least 4 million of Castillo’s contract to get rid of him. Then pay Hudson 10 million to sign him.
      Hudson would cost you 14 million and be worth 9.5. That’s 4.5 million lost. Where as Castillo would only be 4 million lost. Again, that’s as suming that Castillo is that bad and that Hudson can repeat a career year.

      The better move would be to sign Grudzy for 2 million and use that left over money for a LF.
      That way 2nd base in the above senerio only cost you 6 million. 4 million for the bought out Castillo and 2 million for Grudzy. That leaves you 8 million to go out and get a LF.

      • sabermetrician says:

        Actually Hudson did not have a career year last year. He had a career year in 2007 when his value was over $14 mil. And I don’t think that Hudson will be getting $10 mil per, more like $ 8 mil per. I know that your point isn’t how much we pay, it’s how much do we get. I agree that a much wiser move would be to sign a LF, but the only one that fits our bill is Manny, and for whatever reason we’re not even looking that direction.

      • oleosmirf says:

        Castillo is our starting 2B, theres no way around it and I think he’ll have a better year i’d say hed bat around .280

        what we need to do is bring in a guy that wont cost much and can play 2B everyday if needed. Aaron Miles is perfect for that.

        for LF, obviously Manny is unarguably the best option but other than him who else is available that would be an upgrade to platoon with Murphy

        Wigginton is probably the best option there after that everyone else is either too expensive and/or not going to help us where we need it…

        • sabermetrician says:

          I don’t agree that Omar is done at 2B, he’ll try to correct his mistake. But if he is unable to do something there, then we need something serious in LF. We can’t have three positions that are a liability on offense. Two is manageable since we overcompensate at CF and SS, but three would be too much to carry.

  39. KickedintheMetsiclesAgain says:

    Big Unit signs with SF

    Taveras signs with Cinci.

    I like both of these pickups.

  40. mdemaio says:

    Cincy is getting pretty close to becoming this year’s Tampa Bay…good young pop, strong starters, and now some speed up top and a veteran backstop. Jocketty’s done a nice job in a short time…if they could nail down a closer they’d be in good shape, especially if Harang can get back close to where he was…

    • sabermetrician says:

      I do like what Cincy is doing for the most part, but Willy Taveras? He’s awful. He had an OBP of .308 last year. He has no business as a lead-off hitter…or a starter really.

      • mdemaio says:

        His lifetime OBP is only .05 less than Reyes’….don’t get me wrong, I’m not arguing they’re anywhere close to being in the same league, but it’s possible that Tavares just had an off year…at $400K, he’s an economical way to add some speed to the top of the lineup and some up-the-middle defense…a nice move for Jocketty, given his resources, IMO…

        • Gina says:

          His obp is average heavy though, which is why it fluctuates so much from season to season, plus Reyes’s obp is dragged down because he was brought up before he was ready.

          Also Taveras’s offense is painful but he’s so good defensively that he, almost, makes up for it.

          The problem with Cincinatti though is their pitching staff isn’t nearly as good as the Rays was, and they don’t have a lot of those complimentary veteran/sleeper guys like Carlos Pena for example or Floyd, that the Rays front office found.

          Also their manager is dusty baker, which means they start the season off like 10 wins in the hole.

          • sabermetrician says:

            Comparing a player to Jose Reyes in terms of career OBP is not an argument FOR that player. While I love Jose Reyes and I think he is becoming an elite leadoff hitter his career OBP is rather anemic. Over the past three years though, Reyes has put up .354, .354, .358 while Taveras has put up .333, .367 (in 97 total games), .308. This while he has played his home games in Houston and Colorado. Pretty meager numbers really.

          • mdemaio says:

            Agreed with Baker, but as for TB’s pitching being markedly better than Cincinnati’s, look at TB’s 2007 stats, including Garza’s with the Twins…there was no doubt there was talent on the staff, but no one could have reasonably predicted the success they’d have only a year later. If 2008 was a fluke for Harang (admittedly a huge if) and he returns to his form from the previous two years, they could have at least 3 15-game winners in Harang. Arroyo and Volquez, plus Cueto, who’s not even 23 yet…

          • sabermetrician says:

            Gina, you’re right about most things, but I don’t think Taveras defense makes up for anything. He didn’t even break into the top 25 defensive centerfielders according to Beyond the Box Score. And FanGraphs has him as below average.

          • sabermetrician says:

            Not only Volquez, Harang, Arroyo, Cueto but the door isn’t shut on Homer Bailey yet. I think Jay Bruce is solid. If they sell high on Joey Votto they could really turn this club into something. I still think they’re a couple of years away though.

    • sundaysection15 says:

      nail down a closer? they just signed coco cordero last offseason to a huge deal they will not be ‘nailing down a closer’ anytime soon. and there is no way that the reds will be this years tampa bay in the NL central. they are ages behind the cubs and cards. Guys like kazmir, shields, garza and sonnanstine and Ejax are way better than the reds rotation. Plus the rays had Longo, crawford, upton, pena, and a pool of talent in the pen that the reds do not have

  41. 911nafstem says:

    Come on Mets, stop wasting our time with this Japanese import crap. Sign Manny, this offense as currently constructed is not good enough, sign Lowe or Ollie (hopefully Ollie), sign Hudson and take Castillo for a ride “down the river,” and let’s go. You guys have a cable station and a new stadium, act like it. Shoring up the bullpen was a start but it’s not good enough.

  42. brye65 says:

    No comment!

  43. Now that the Giants have acquired RJ, maybe they will sell low on Noah Lowry? He missed all of last year with an injury but he is supposed to be ready for spring training. he had a solid 2007 and could compete with Niese in Spring Training for the #5.

  44. Les_Gomez says:

    MLBTRADERUMORS.com: “Now that the San Francisco Giants have lefty veteran Randy Johnson locked up, they are willing to listen to offers involving Jonathan Sanchez.”

    Offer them Ryan Church and then sign Manny. Use Murphy/Tatis in RF. If we end up adding Lowe, Sanchez and Neise can battle it out for the fifth spot.

    • Tidewater says:

      Manny in LF and Tatis/Murphy in RF? That shows such little regard for defense, it is laughable. Manny is an atrocious outfielder and Tatis and Murphy are… what’s the word? Oh yes… infielders.

      You must sell Beltran his shoes if you want this outfield.

  45. brye65 says:

    Wilpons my christmas gift to you a knife and a bucket.

  46. shea says:

    Ahh… this post is getting old.

    C’mon Omar! Do something! This is boring.

  47. Kherubconamor says:

    5 team trades don’t happen all that often, but I don’t see why this one isn’t appealing to all involved. If anyone could appreciate Castillo’s OBP it’d be Billy Beane, no? A lot of bad contracts being exchanged here….and then the Mets can go sign Manny…to make up for the drop in offense from Schnieder to Buck…just kidding…

    A’s GET – Luis Castillo, Mike Cuddyer
    A’s GIVE – Eric Chavez, Mark Ellis

    ROYALS GET – Mark Ellis
    ROYALS GIVE – John Buck

    TWINS GET – Eric Chavez, Carlos Muniz
    TWINS GIVE – Mike Cuddyer

    ORIOLES GET – Brian Schnieder
    ORIOLES GIVE – Melvin Mora

    METS GET – John Buck, Melvin Mora
    METS GIVE – Luis Castillo, Brian Schnieder, Carlos Muniz

    • Kherubconamor says:

      On second thought, I think the Royals should give up an arm instead of the Mets kicking in Muniz to Minnesota.

      • Kherubconamor says:

        How about John Bale? The Twins could use a lefty anyway…

        • Kherubconamor says:

          A’s GET – Luis Castillo, Mike Cuddyer
          A’s GIVE – Eric Chavez, Mark Ellis

          ROYALS GET – Mark Ellis
          ROYALS GIVE – John Buck, John Bale

          TWINS GET – Eric Chavez, John Bale
          TWINS GIVE – Mike Cuddyer

          ORIOLES GET – Brian Schnieder
          ORIOLES GIVE – Melvin Mora

          METS GET – John Buck, Melvin Mora
          METS GIVE – Luis Castillo, Brian Schnieder

          Much better….

          • MadCowMets says:

            Why would the Mets need Mora? Why not just trade Santana for CC, AJ, Wang, and Joba? *rolls eyes*

          • Kherubconamor says:

            I’m sure you rolled your eyes since we all know that Santana is worth far more than that rabble of garbage, but the Mets don’t need Mora in all honesty. He’s no doubt an offensive upgrade over any Second Base or Left Field option currently in house though…The basis of this trade however is strictly contract based. It does in fact fill various needs for the teams involved, but the true beauty of it lies with in the moving contracts.

            The move would save the Mets about 2 million this year, and an additional 12 million the following 2.

          • MadCowMets says:

            Who cares about contract $ when all I want is wins! I’ll pay $200 a ticket if it means the Mets go to the Series!

        • Kherubconamor says:

          I don’t care either; the way I figure it the Mets are easily going to eclipse 350 million this year in revenue raised…and with a total operating budget that probably isn’t above 230 million, that’s at least 120 Million dollars of profit headed the Wilpons way this year….you’re telling me they can’t risk making only 100 million in profit this year to give it’s faithful fans a Championship? There’s a good chance the risk pays off handsomely, and they make post-season revenue. Not to mention no other player would have a bigger effect on the culture of Ny Baseball. The Mets would earn a profit from the Manny merchandise that eclipses his contract in all likelihood.

          Sign Manny Ramirez you cheap Wilpons. If they don’t sign Manny, I hope the word Wilpon becomes a colloquial epithet…akin to mingy.

          SIGN MANNY RAMIREZ!!!

  48. The Captain says:

    brye65 you forgot the sleeping pills, dont be cheap in your xmas basket

  49. The Captain says:

    hey throwing names out there as 2 players Wolf/Redding, I like the gamble, 1 of the 2 should turn out some production, worth the gamble to get both and probably cheaper then 1 Lowe.
    I still dont think Omar should be done with the bull pen. It’l take more than KROD/PUTZ to reshape that terrible 08 pen.
    Hoping to land a Scott Shields type from LAA. That would be the finishing touch to turn Wolf/Redding potential into impressive players.
    With a strong bull pen the Wolf/Redding type could have carreer years. But of the 2, one will be above average (carreer yr) and the other still terrible (lets not get carried away). But I see potential and rather the risk then commiting to Perez or Lowe for big contracts. Leave some monetary room for Omar to jump if another opportunity arises.

  50. OOps meant to say id take Ollie and 1 of Wolf/Redding..lol…and its gut not “guy” lmao