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In his latest post to ESPN.com, Buster Olney takes a closer look at the dwindling market for free-agent OF Manny Ramirez.
According to Olney, the Angels, Mets and Yankees have all said they are out of the bidding on Ramirez, who is unlikely to draw interest from the Phillies, Blue Jays, Cubs, Tigers, Cardinals, Braves and others.
Olney adds that some GMs are concerned that if Ramirez signs a short-term deal that he believes is worth less than he thinks he deserves, he could end up being ‘unhappy,’ and, ‘As the Red Sox can attest, that didn’t work out so well in the end.’
Omar Minaya has been unable to convince ownership to sign Ramirez, Dan Graziano recently wrote in the Star-Ledger, and so he will not be on the Mets, according to people familiar with the team’s thinking.
…i actually believe ramirez will end up returning to the Dodgers, because, as i have said before, he needs Hollywood as much as Hollywood needs him…however, while i agree with graziano, if this continues to drag out, and there is a chance of ramirez signing a one-year deal, the Mets have to get involved…they have to…
Last week, in a poll on MetsBlog.com, only nine percent of more than 7,500 voters said they did not want Ramirez on the Mets, while 49 percent would go so far as to guarantee him a two-year deal and 29 percent would give him a three-year deal.
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I saw all the positives outweigh the negatives. The bargain he would come for doesn’t hurt either.
i cannot believe the wilpons are THAT stupid and STUBBORN. dont they want to go to the WS? then SIGN MANNY! its a no brainer! even for 2-3 yrs if necessary. hey, the 91% of the voting metsblog fans cannot be wrong :)
*SAY*..sorry.
Manny is a disgrace! The Mets are not the Yankees. Whatever happened to the ideals of character and integrity as well as talent? More importantly, with a guy like David Wright trying to exert some leadership, what would the effect be of this imbecile strutting around the clubhouse, possible “unhappy”? Wake up, Mets fans – we need a TEAM, not just “good players”. You can’t buy that with money, at least not completely.
your points are very valid
but this team needs a real hammer
Omar
the clock is tickin’
remember that Sept feelin’
“Whatever happened to the ideals of character and integrity as well as talent”
It disappear with the creation of a Capitalism.
Chemistry is not something that a GM can just create. Getting good “clubhouse” guys does not guarantee a winner. ive read a lot about good “clubhouse” guys in here lately. cliff floyd is not the reason the rays were good this year. good pitching and Evan Langoria were the reasons.
Also, plenty of teams have gone out and won that haven’t liked each other or had no “chemistry. Just because the yankees have “bought” their teams since 2000 but haven’t won a world series does not mean that they have been a failure. The playoffs are a crap shoot, getting into the tourney is a SUCCESSFUL season. I always hear about the late 90’s Yankees and how they won because of “chemistry”. Well, thats BS. They had great teams. Even in 96. Best pen in the playoffs, GREAT rotation, and a servicable lineup.
Orlando Hudson is overrated. If i hear about his “leadership” skills one more time im gonna explode.
Damn it, I want to see the Mets win. This good chemistry stuff has been just good enough to see the team choke the last 2 years. If nothing else is done for this offense, another choke or worse will occur. Manny would fit the middle of the Mets lineup like a glove. Omar knows this. That’s why he’s hot for him. Met ownership is gunshy from the beating they took from Madoff, I’ll bet. If they want to start to make that money back, Manny would be a good investment. If nothing else, the seats in Citi field will be filled every game and eyeballs will be watching SNY.
“a choke or worse will occur”
LOL…what’s worse than a choke?
Maybe the Mets don’t want to sign Manny because they want the flexibility to take Csrlos Lee or Matt Holliday off other teams hands’ if they don’t contend come the the trade deadline.
I’m so sick of fans whining
Im done with all this chemistry junk. I’ve been undecided on the topic on Manny Ramirez for a while. But what it comes down to is talent. We all know its there. Do people honestly think the mets can’t out-bid the dogers?? I’m not saying lets be the yankees.
As far as chemistry is concerned, usually teams with good chemistry win. Teams that win have talent. Am I the only one that see’s the big picture?
Talent = wins from good teams
good teams = chemistry
So my piont to the Wilpons and on chemistry is that they should take a chance on a guy that solidifys a line-up and can carry an offense when nobody else is.
As long as Tiki-Carlos Delgado-Barber is there, Wright won’t be a leader anyway
i think you mean Carlos “don’t call me Tiki” Delgado….at least i think thats what he likes to be called
Look ….Manny obviously had a problem (or two !) in Beantown…..but if I recall correctly, Pedro Martinez was made out to be a “clubhouse cancer” and a “Diva” in Boston as well…didn’t see ANYTHING resembling that kind of behavior here in NY from him…..all I am saying is that MAYBE it’s not just “Manny being Manny” but maybe Manny reacting (albeit rather immaturely) to a bad situation ??
All I know is that for the kind of production he can provide, I can’t see why the Mets wouldn’t at least TRY to make a 1 or 2 year offer at either a high salary and/or performance based incentives.
For all the fans have endured the last few seasons (and all we will have to endure at the ticket office and concession stands going forward) I really feel the team owes it to all of us to pull out all the stops and do everything possible to bring a championship to Flushing.
Just my $0.02
Only one or two year deal nothing more and make it incentive loaded .
Sign him. Give him a loaded one year contract, and let him play for his next contract.
I’d offer this contract structure to Manny:
2 guaranteed years at 23 million a piece with a first year incentives of 2 million for the MVP, 1 million at 450 at-bats, 1 million at 550 at-bats. Second year incentive 3 million for the MVP, 1.25 million for 450 at-bats, 2 million for 550 at-bats. 3rd year team option for a guaranteed 24million, with incentives of 3 million for the MVP award, 2 million for 450 at-bats, 3 million for 550 at-bats. 4th year player option for a guaranteed 25 million with a 5 million MVP incentive clause.
no one sees the… je ne sais quoi of this contract proposal? : )
Exactly what the Mets need! 2 years maybe option for a 3rd.
Manny being Manny has been taken way out of context.
Manny was unhappy for the past years and tried to get out… The Redsox wouldn’t let it happen unless they got equal value and someone to take entire salary.
We know thats not possible with the only teams Mets, Yankees and California that could afford Manny.
Manny still brought the Redsox a championship.
If Manny didn’t hire Boras thing would not be like this. Boras orchestrated Manny out of Boston.
Manny plays the game with alot of enthusiasm. He’s like a big kid having fun.
As i said not too many teams can afford a Manny! Mets Yankees, Angels and Dodgers are his only suiters.
Tex killed the market for Manny and the Mets ownership are very bad business men and baseball owners.
Mets are built to win now. You either buy or sell. They don’t have the farm. AAA is the independant league for the Mets.
Bottomline is Manny is the answer! 2 years option for 3rd or choke!
Omar , Wilpons, please wake up… This is an extraordinary opportunity to grab MANNY RAMIREZ… To be put in this position under current market condtions and not make Manny a 2 yr offer is embarrasing to our fans and simply foolish.. Manny is the nail in the coffin for the new york mets to take the east and possibly win a ws championship. This would stick it to the yankees, and phillies right in there face.. Manny wants to win. the mets want to win, and there fans deserve it. That is the big picture here!
If the Mets sign Manny and Lowe they a great shot to be in the WS I just wished Manny signs somewhere already so we can stop talking about it
” ‘Whatever happened to the ideals of character and integrity as well as talent’
It disappear with the creation of a Capitalism. ”
Wrong on so many levels. Capitalism is what has brought this great game to us. As for integrity in the clubhouse…I agree it’s needed. We also need a solid hitter though. Who is that hitter? I think Murphy/Tatis = Slightly below avg LF.
“Who is that hitter? I think Murphy/Tatis = Slightly below avg LF.”
lol…what is that, a best case scenario? What’s the worst case scenario? Would it be that Tatis was lightening in a bottle and Murphy a flash in the pan? Hmmm, while I’m trying to ponder which one has a greater probability of occurring, I can’t seem to get this incessant, blaring, repetitive noise out of my head…it sounds like this – MAN-NY!!, MAN-NY!!, MAN-NY!!…oh, was incessant and repetitive redundant? Kind of like every other option that isn’t Manny Ramirez? Manny is a difference maker…he would make the difference…
I can’t wait until he signs with the Dodgers so we can move on to a more realistic conversation.
realistic?
a little hypocritical coming from someone who thought the Mets were going to trade Delgado and sign Teixiera
the Mets dont have a LF, Manny is the best LF in baseball/ i dont see why signing the best player at his position to fill a huge hole in our lineup is unrealistic…
faulty logic.
teixeira and manny don’t even compare. not even close.
manny is an old man and teixeira is just fully entering his prime. manny is a malcontent and teixeira is the ultimate clubhouse guy. manny is a me-first, i can do whatever i want type of guy, teixeira always thinks team-first. the production will be about equal next year, maybe even in 2010 and then manny is toast and teixeira will be going strong. the situations were so different, i find it hard to even fathom this conversation.
to want the mets to do something smart like trade an aging player (delgado) in the last year of his contract to make way for the premier free agent first basemen not only this offseason, but any until 2011 is not unrealistic. that was smart and fair. it was only money that stood in the way and we all felt the mets had it. delgado would fetch a prospect, perhaps even a pitching prospect and teixeira would have made us all forget him. but, the mets never really got into the talks, which irked me.
gladly, it seems the mets are getting the manny situation right. staying out of it.
i call manny unrealistic because of all the things we have heard from the mets…oh like, we are not going to sign manny ramirez. the mets don’t want that guy on this team. for very good reason.
wanting the best first baseman available for the next three years and not wanting the biggest malcontent in baseball does not make me a hypocrite. only smart.
The Mets won’t have to get into a bidding battle to get Lowe or Ollie so they should sign them both.
With Manny, maybe Omar has not made a move for a LF yet because he is still trying to convince the Wilpons to let him bring Manny in … who knows. I would love him here to play LF. I know his defense is not that great but at the same time a platoon between Murphy and Tatis is not to much better defenseily. But at the same time I do understand why ownership does not want him.
But getting Lowe and Ollie would really give us a strong rotation 1-5 and with the new bullpen, on paper the Mets you can argue have the best pitching in baseball. Of course they have to show it on the field next year.
‘Whatever happened to the ideals of character and integrity as well as talent’
when your organization only makes the playoffs 7 times in its 46 year history its time to change how things are done
that doesnt mean throw money at every problem but we have a hole in LF and the best LF in baseball is available and at a huge bargain.
I can understand not wanting to give Manny a long term deal but if you can get him on a 1 or 2 year deal how can the Mets not even make an offer…
I just can’t see Manny being anything other than “Manny”. He won’t run out grounders and pop ups. He will lallygag after every fly ball. He will be aloof in the clubhouse. He will show up late and expect preferential treatment. He will miss the team plane. He will hit .300, 30-40 homers and drive in 120 runs. If everyone one of us agrees to turn a blind eye when Manny is Manny, then what the heck…sign him. But, remember this, you don’t get production without all the drawbacks, so everyone just be quiet when he starts to act up, which he most certainly will.
This is true. And then what is Jerry Manual going to do? You no Manny won’t be benched for not hustling. But then Reyes and other guys will be benched for not running out grounders so it can cause a problem. Again I would love to have him but I totally understand why they don’t want to bring him in.
You know, a lot of people speculated that Pedro would cause the same clubhouse ills as Manny….And yet, despite the injuries, Pedro has been a model citizen.
If we get Manny then I really want Pedro back. I know I’ll get crushed for saying it but I think pedro is smart enough like moyer and glavine to adapt his game, plus never underestimate a player with a chip on their shoulder. Plus imagine how great and loose the clubhouse would be. Plus it would make manny more comfortable
The Wilpons have no character. Both losers and content being losers.. Look what they did to Willie Randolph a good example!
Well if Manny does come to NY then I think he knows not to cause any problems. The NY fans will run him right out of this town. This ain’t Boston or LA, this is a totally different stage.
plus Boras knows that if Manny causes trouble on another team it will hurt his client (and Boras as well) financially
it would be in Manny’s best interest to be happy not too mention he should feel very comfortable playing for Los Mets…
because boras has done a great job managing his client up until this point. how much money has manny cost boras by getting himself kicked out of boston?
None, because Boras wasn’t the agent that negotiated Manny’s contract with the Red Sox.
I think Manny would be great for the Mets. There’s no way Jerry would allow him to get out of hand. Manny is from NY, so him coming here would make him very comfortable playing in front of his home town crowd. That “Manny being Manny” thing is stupid. Reyes has the same enthusiasm and we love it here in NY. I think that’s what this team lacks is enthusiasm. I say sign him to a 2 year contract with an option for a third. He’s not a great defensive player, but then again neither is Delgado, but yet he still contributes with his bat and leadership. I really hope Omar convinces the Wilpon’s to bring him here to NY. Imagine opening day at Citi Field with Manny, K-Rod and Putz all standing on the first baseline as the 2009 team is introduced.
Let’s Go Mets!!!
“Manny being Manny” has more to do with him boycotting games, playing at will, and faking injuries and illnesses than it does to his enthusiasm.
Reyes never does any of those things. Please, don’t tarnish Reyes rep by pinning his behavior to Manny’s.
Hey VCarver- I’m only referring to the enthusiasm. All that other stuff Manny does was with other teams and I would like to think he’s grown up a lot since then. Please don’t take things out of context. Reyes is a totally different player. He plays with everything he’s got. The only comparison I made was the fact that he draws a lot of attention with his enthusiasm.
OK, but Manny being Manny is more about other stuff besides his enthusiasm.
And what do you mean he’s grown up since then? You mean in just a few months now that he’s coveted by some Mets fans, lol? It was just this season that he pushed a team employee to the ground and started whining about his current contract.
i dont think it’s a coincidence that Mets rhyme with Jets
Ny Jetropolitans
whats my point? after the 07 and 08 mets, and the 08 jets, can’t an “ets” fan PLEASE just wake up and read “mets sign manny”
PLEASE…im dyin over here
It’s sad really. We need a proven LF. We need one more power bat in the line up. One of the best hitters in all of baseball is on the FA Market, who happens to play LF. He wants a 2 or 3 year contract, which would be just enough time to fully develop our minor league phenom FMart. He can crush the ball. And, oh he’s from NYC also.
I mean, it makes too much sense to sign him. It’s a perfect fit, literally. The fact that we’re not even kicking the tires is sad. And don’t give me the “attitude” excuse. We’re not even looking at him, at this point??? Something is wrong….
i could understand getting outbid or not wanting to give him a long term deal but to not show any interest at all is really sad…
Well the Mets ARE negotiating with Boras right now…So is it out of the rhelm of possibility that Omar has told Boras that he would be interested in talking Manny after resolving the pitching situation?
Reading between the lines, Manny will be a cancer if he gets less than 20 million per year. He also needs something to play for
I would offer him 45 million over 2 years, with a guaranteed 25 million 3rd year if he reaches 1000 plate appearances over the first 2 seasons. He may opt out of his deal after each season if he thinks he can make more.
I would also offer bonuses for allstar selection, top three MVP voting and playoff appearances, worth up to a milllion per year extra.
Of course, i do not think it will happen
i agree nick…although, i will say this….last year, no matter what, i had this feeling that we were gettin johan…gettin ripped by yankee fans in my office all day long, i stayed true and said “we’ll see”….and i have a little bit of that feeling in me about manny…when it makes 100% sense (like Pedro, K-rod), omar strikes FAST…when there is even a LITTLE bit of hesitation (manny being manny, giving up a ton of prospects for johan), he waits…i have a feeling he will turn the wilpons around and manny WILL BE a Met…
i mean really..i love murphy, i like tatis, but does someone REALLY have FULL CONFIDENCE that those 2 will be a true FORCE in left field? Come on..if us fans know it cant really be a factor, u think that omar and his peeps dont konw that?? I think that is reason 1 why we DIDNT go out and sign or trade for a LF yet, that omar wants manny and will work on the wilpons to give the green light!!!
-Jetropolitans
Why are we platooning Murphy? Let the kid play everyday. he rakes everything, even southpaws
and what happens if last year was just a fluke???
The one thing AC is that Murphy has had just 131 ABs in the bigs. I think if Omar can’t land a true force in LF (a la Manny), he’s content to work Murphy along with Tatis until Murphy outright wins the job. The thing is, Murphy is going to be an awful outfielder (even worse than Tatis) and I think Omar sees Murphy as this teams 1Bman of the future. It’s sad when Manny is seen as a defensive upgrade over you.
exactly right now Derek Lowe is a more important signing than Manny.
once Omar gets that #2 SP, we’ll have a better idea what Omar is thinking…
Look, I believe the Mets need an Every day guy in the lineup in Left. If the Mets and Omara aren’t going to pull off a mega star Matt Holiday trade for Left then go after Manny. Jerry Manuel is the type of Manger that if you’re not playing to the best of your ability, then you will sit no matter HOW MUCH you get PAID or HOW BIG OF A SUPERSTAR YOU THINK YOU ARE, the main focus is winning it all, because after watching that BS called the world series this year, playoffs and smacking the Sh** out of the phillies just isn’t good enough anymore.
and we all know jerry is a gangsta…he dont care if ur from washington heights or west ham sandwich, kansas….he’ll cut ya
I doubt Holliday gets traded again this off-seaon…he was moved to the A’s early on, remember?
He is a FA after ‘09, and perhaps the Mets make a big push for him.
i bet Manny signs big one year contract … Teams won’t want to risk Manny quitting on them again with 45 – 50M on the line … but i bet a few teams would bid for Manny in a contract year, could even get into bidding war. Anybody, even Wilpons, can put up with Manny for one year.
Make him the highest paid player in the game for one year. Everybody wins.
what i would do is give Manny a 1-2 year deal at around 22 mil a year with incentives that could move that closer to 30 depending on how far the Mets go in the playoffs and on individual awards like MVP, WS MVP etc…
I was one of the 9% who said they didn’t want Manny.
Seriously, what does that tell you when 9% of Mets fans don’t want Manny for even one year? Cerrone said “only 9%” but I think that’s a pretty high number when you’re only talking one year and it’s one of the best hitters in the game. It’s almost an indictment, not an endorsement.
And I doubt most of the 9% said no primarily because of money. That wasn’t why I voted no.
100% agree! What people don’t seem to be realizing is that when you sign Manny now, you do so knowing exactly what you are going to get: Manny being Manny. We all know he won’t change and we all know he will produce (at least for one more year). So, when you sign at the bottom of the contract you are implicitly telling Manny it’s okay to be Manny. We know you are incapable of being a team guy, but we don’t care as long as you produce. There’s no hoping he’ll stay quiet and do his job. You don’t teach an old dog new tricks.
ask Joe Torre what he thought of Manny. He was on the fan one day and he was raving about how Manny was a leader in the clubhouse, showing up early everyday, going out of his way to help the young guys like DeWitt, Ethier and Kemp.
i fail to see how in 6 months Manny would become so upset that despite his .300 30 HR and 100 RBI he would make this team any worse than an 89 win team..
i can understand wanting Lowe over Manny but to say id rather have Wolf and Tatis instead of Manny and Redding.
Manny will drive in more runs by the all star break than Tatis will do all season
I’m not completely against a Manny signing, but in all fairness, it took him a lot less than six months- more like a day or two- to switch from a guy faking injuries and shoving club employees to a “good clubhouse guy.” There’s no reason to suspect that he couldn’t switch back just as quickly….
And what manager in his right mind would badmouth one of his current players publicly when they are trying to make the playoffs?
It’s been said that Francona did not like Manny because of his impetuous selfish behavior. And Francona is reportedly an easy manager to play for.
“Seriously, what does that tell you when 9% of Mets fans don’t want Manny for even one year? ”
That tells me that 9% of Mets fans are INSANE! LMAO
an unhappy Manny batted .299 20 HR 68 RBI in 100 games in Boston
a happy Manny batted .396 17 HR 53 RBI in 52 games in LA
in boston manny was on pace for 30 HR 102 RBI.
in LA manny was on pace for 50 HR 156 RBI
wow imagine if Manny was just a tiny bit happy on the Mets
And Boston was so sick and tired of him that they PAID the Dodgers to take him off their hands.
it took Manny 7 years to become a problem in Boston and now you think all of a sudden Manny is going to be a problem in NY after 7 months??
Actually Manny’s been a problem in Boston for a long time but they had no other alternative but to keep him because he had a guaranteed contract. It was the previous regime that brought him in.
Did you forget they tried to trade him to Omar and
Epstein thought he had a deal in place but Omar changed his mind …. and Epstein was reportedly mad about that?
And yes, I think Manny could become a problem in LESS than 7 months if he decides he’s not happy with a short term contract — especially when he looks across town and sees A-Rod and Tex with their super cushy contracts.
And don’t forget the time Boston put him on irrevocable waivers and not one single team wanted him. Not one!
At least three times they tried to get rid of him and could only find a willing partner by paying that other team.
This is an interesting post in light of the earlier ones regarding Lowe and Ollie. If the prices for all three players come down, and the Wilpons become convinced that it would be OK to sign Manny, which acquisition(s) would make the most sense for us? Even at a discount, we can’t sign all three. There’s no way that this team is adding 45-50 mil or so to next year’s payroll, which is what they would all cost together even at discounted prices (we can debate whether or not we think they _should_ raise the payroll by that much, but the reality is, it’s not happening). Signing both Lowe and Ollie would give us a very very solid rotation, but Manny, especially on an attractive short-term deal, would really boost the lineup. It’s an interesting potential dilemma. Personally, I’d rather spend it all on the rotation, but I can see the argument for the other side too….
Manny is 100 times better than anyone else the Mets can put in LF.
Lets put aside the fact that Perez has no command of his pitches and he can go haywire at any time
How much better is Ollie than a guy like Redding or Niese
Ollie had 10 wins and a 4.22 ERA and has shown 0 signs of improvement…we can get those numbers elsewhere and at a much cheaper cost
I agree that Ollie will get overpaid, even at a “discounted” price, but we really have no idea what Niese will be capable at the major league level next year, and there’s no way that Ollie isn’t a substantial upgrade from Redding.
Ollie had 10 Wins and a 4.22 ERA. that is very easily replacable and im not going to look it up but im sure most of Ollie’s starts ended up in Mets losses
you’d rather have that over the best RH OF in baseball and lose your 1st rounder as well
The choice is not Manny or Ollie. Manny would cost twice as much. The choice is Manny and rotation of Johan, Pelf, Maine, and two of a package of something like Redding/Wolf/Niese vs. a league-average LF platoon and a very good rotation. I think there’s an argument to be made that Manny would make the lineup so good that it could overcome some pitching problems, but spending virtually all of our remaining cash on Manny would mean having a pretty weak rotation, which could be a major liability as the season goes on.
When the price comes down, more teams get involved. We’re not getting a 2-fer
Manny should sign with the Orioles.
they were going to spend a chunk on Texieria so they have it available, and Manny could hit 40 homers a year just at home, while smacking around the Red Sox and Yankees 36 times a year…
I’ve got a new plan…
1) trade for Jon Sanchez & Molina (Church, Niese, Schnieder and Castillo?)
2) sign Abreu to replace Church
3) sign Wiggington or Grudzy for 2B
4) sign Garland or Redding to complete the rotation (Garland or Wiggy, but not both as that would be too costly)
5) sign Wil Ohman.
you can do all of this for less than the 25 mil it would cost to land Lowe and Hudson.
and we would be worse than we were last season…
there would be a ton less blown leads, only a few less leads with the rotation being a little worse than last year. The defense and offense would be a little better and the pen a lot better. It adds up to a better club.
of course there would be less blown leads b/c with that rotation you’ll have less leads to blow…
That’s not much of a plan. Sign Lowe, then go from there. We need another bat after we get Lowe and a LHRP.
^ Oleo said it.
Great plan, you troll. Thank God you aren’t the GM of this team.
Go back to making things up to give posters a hard time about. You aren’t any good at making “plans”.
From mlbtr.com:
MLB.com’s Marty Noble on the Mets:
They intend to make offers early this week to at least two and probably three free-agent pitchers — Derek Lowe, Oliver Perez and Randy Wolf — in hopes of signing one of them.
Noble says the Mets continue to rank the three in that order – Lowe, Perez, Wolf. He indicates that the Mets want to sign one of the three. Lowe and Perez should be ready to sign soon now that Scott Boras isn’t occupied with Mark Teixeira.
Noble adds that the Mets aren’t terribly concerned about having only one left-handed reliever on the roster (Pedro Feliciano). They’ll look for bargains rather than pursue a Joe Beimel type. Mets GM Omar Minaya does want to acquire a utility infielder, with Alex Cora atop the list.
I wish we could sign two of Lowe, Perez, Wolf.
TWO DECENT STARTING PITCHERS?!!! we aren’t the yankees. don’t be ridiculous.
i would rather have Wolf than Perez, i’d even rather have Redding and use that money on getting a 2B to platoon with Castillo
Wolf on a 1 year deal would be a perfect #5 starter. I personally cant understand giving Ollie a long term deal after the year he had and how poorly he pitched down the stretch…
Yeah, with how similar their peripherals are, I’m not sure why ODALIS Perez isn’t getting as much attention as OLIVER Perez.
manny + lowe = world series. AND even slappy castillo could easily be tolerated in the lineup.
I actually agree with you. I don’t think there’s a chance we get Manny though.
if we sign two of those three pitchers we have the best rotation in the nl and if we sign manny we have the best offense in the nl and unfortunately we will problably fall short on both. i hope not.
SIGN HIM FOR TWO YEARS ALREADY!!!!!
I DONT GET THIS!!!!!!
Their worried about what???? The dugout has been crap!!! What can change????
GET HIM NOW!!!!!! HOW MANY RUNNERS TO THE METS LEAVE ON????
Honestly, I’d rather spend just a little more money getting a qualified setup guy than throwing money at Manny.
Did you see the mlbtr.com article? Doesn’t look like the pen is a must.
Yeah, I know Omar probably feels work on the pen is finished for now. I was just stating what I would do. I have faith in K-Rod and somewhat in Putz, but Feliciano and Sanchez are still question marks.
I actually have a lot of faith in Putz. I do like the idea of getting a LHRP though. Not a star, just a solid specialist.
I’m pretty sure that J.J. Putz is our “qualified setup guy”
One interesting point in that article is that Omar doesn’t feel a need to sign another LHRP. Kind of the approach the Padres have taken over the last few years. Good arms, not necessarily left/right.
it certainly does seem like omar is following the padres in building a bullpen. the pads have relied on compiling power arms anyway they can, w/ no care for right or left. it seems to be working for them.
if you think about it why do the Mets need another lefty??
as long as Perez isnt back Santana, Lowe, Pelfrey, Maine will go 6 IP+ every start
Feliciano would get the lefties in the 7th and Green or Sanchez would get the righties with Putz and K-Rod getting the 8th and 9th…
matt, i am personally VERY proud of you for FINALLY seeing the light about manny and how the mets NEED him. you are becoming an enlightened fan :) SIGN MANNY!!!!!
i actually have a feeling we will get manny at the last minute, two year deal with a third year option. ya gotta believe.
does anyone kno how i can get tickets to the exihbition games against the sox in citifield before the season starts??
Stub Hub. That’s probably where I will get mine.
i kno i can do that but so u kno when they go on sale? i dont want to spend 100 bucks to go…i hear they are selling them cheap
do instead of so
They are already on Stubhub. Other than that, I guess you would have to wait until they are actually on sale via the Met ticket office.
I smell “COLLUSION”
The owners clearly do not want to see Manny benefit from his actions in Boston.
How else can you explain why teams are not clamoring for a player who is an MVP type and can lead a team in the pressure packed playoffs.
I’m just surprised the Yankees could contain themselves.
That’s probably why they choose to spend on Teixeira.
Nice to hear from Noble that they will cheap out on a Lefty reliever now too. Sell the team.
As for Manny-naysayers, it is amazing to me how quick people are to try and point out how many negatives Manny may have.
Instead, let’s quickly focus on what he does for the rest of the team. Having him in the lineup will instantly provide protection for Wright, Beltran, and Delgado. It is a scary thought. Look at what he did for Ortiz, after Manny left, Ortiz was not half the hitter he was. People seriously underestimate what he does for the batter’s around him. I am completely giddy of the thought of what he can do for the other guys, as opposed what he can do individually. Manny being Manny will still scare pitchers. Regardless of whether he is a disgruntled or complacent Manny.
Sorry for typos…I’m on the blackberry.
It’s easy to ignore the negatives when you’re a fan. But it’s the manager and players who have to deal with Manny’s negatives. Almost everyone on the Red Sox wanted him off the team.
I take solace in the knowledge that signing Manny would bring the Mets over the LT threshold — something the Wilpons don’t like too do — and that the Wilpons are also adverse to acquiring players with a lot of baggage.
Manny is not coming to the Mets. Give it up folks.
i completely agree, the guy could shoot himself in the leg at a nightclub and i’d still want him bating behind wright or beltran just because of the affect he will have on how a pitcher pitches to our lineup. and then of course the clutch omre runs and ribis he will get himself. invaluable and can be had for 50 million. a steal.
same with the typos except iphone.
hey oleosmirf … you say let’s ask Joe Torre about Manny, and talk about how he was leader in Dodger clubhouse … let’s not get crazy … maybe we should talk to the 60 year old traveling secretary that Manny knocked down to the ground over a tickets request. Manny is who and what he is. Awesome hitter and absolute diva. Question is whether production is worth the drama.
well is .300 35 HR 120 RBI and making every other hitter in the lineup better worth it to you??
is Manny really a bigger risk than having Murphy and Tatis in LF??
its ridiculous to think that Manny will all of sudden be unhappy 4 months into his first season with a new club. Manny is not T.O.
if its a one year deal and the Mets dont sign him there is a serious problem
sell the team
Manny is a money maker but the Wilpons as i’ve said are not only bad baseball owners. They are bad business men.. Freddy Coupon should sell and add him and jeff to the bucket list. Both are pieces of crap!
should all of the other owners of teams that dont want manny sell their teams too? arte moreno? john henry?
The Wilpon’s have actually been very good owners. They’ve seen the team through its most successful times. They spend on the high end, always. An argument can be made that the negatives of Manny outweigh the postives (I don’t buy it, but it can be made). They’re not ‘cheaping’ out on a LHRP, Omar is taking a different approach. An approach that has worked very effectively for Kevin Towers in San Diego. I like the Wilpons. I hope that we still sign a LF, but I think they are giving Omar most of the latitude that he needs.
i remember watching him in the playoffs last year and every time he came up they completely pitched around him and he really gave the other players a better opportunity… he is the best offensive player in the mlb today…whose better? arod?? no..pujols? maybe but no…who??????? noone….when he comes at such a good price how can you just pa-ss it up…and also, when more than 90 percent of the fans want him how can you pa-ss it up…90 PERCENT!!! hello wilpons.. sellouts? all the time??? merchendise?? ramirez shirts??? ramirz wig day promotions??
exactly i hope those people who dont want Manny arent the ones complaining when the Mets miss the playoffs every year.
sure manny isnt a great guy but he’s a winner and would really help this organization that has done nothing but lose in its history…
“The mets on the other hand are nowhere near on the level of the yankees or the sox ”
BS. Pure BS.
The Mets beat the Yankees head to head last season. The WS winner came out of the NL East. And the Mets beat up on the WS winner last season.
Sure, the Yankees made significant additions this winter, but they have an aging core that could be on the verge of a meltdown (A-Rod, Posada, Jeter, Rivera, Matsui, Damon). They have such a volatile mix that it could explode in their faces. I hope the Yankees do add Manny to add to their collection of oversized underachieving egos. It will be a real zoo then.
Sign Manny to a one year deal, then trade him to the Yankees for Nady – sign Nady to a 3 year/$30M deal
You’re welcome Omar.
why trade filet mignon for hamburger?
You’re right. The Yankees probably wouldn’t want to do the trade for a fatburger.
this is how the mets get their swagger back
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Oh god….please don’t tease us like that….
Also, serious question: Were there any reports of Manny causing any problems in the Dodgers’ clubhouse last season? I’m not trying to directly compare any two situations, just curious…
oleosmirf – is Manny worth the dramat? yep, i think so … i suggested earlier to make him best paid player in game for one year contract … just saying, don’t go overboard the other way, and start counting on him as positive influence and leader in clubhouse.
on another front, wonder what Tigers would ask for to unload Magglio’s contract …. 18M for 2009, club options in 2010 and 2011 with 3M buyout… Manny Lite
With respect to the pushing of the secretary for tickets, how can ANYONE speak of this? It amazes me how people make judgments based off of things that occur internally, elsewhere. Did the secretary insult him, or make a racist comment? Probably not, but it is still speculation and conjecture. Ask his teammates how they felt about him while he was on his way out? Sure. How about asking them how they felt about having them while they were winning WS rings. I bet I could find a trillion interviews of his teammates praising him. I think a player’s worth should be defined by his on the field projections, as well as his success. By success, I mean things such as, has he been a part of a winning team? Was he an intricate part of this winning team? Was the team the same after he left? Has he done this in more than one scenario? The fact of the matter is, Manny Ramirez has excelled in every environment.
Manny bashers…seriously, wake up.
i bet there is another side to that story…but manny is being purposely silent about it from respect for that secretary (who probably asked for it…or tripped, etc.)
Of course there is, the Manny honeymoon was over. Pedro threw down the Yankees bench coach. Did that stop us from signing him? What was the difference? We actually saw what Zimmer did. Did we watch a hidden camera of the Manny incident? Definitely not.
Ridiculous.
It really is mind-boggling to me that this organization has not shown interest in Manny Ramirez. If they don’t act in some way regarding him, especially having this extremely favorable market in place, that’s not going to sit well with me and the vast majority of fan base. Say what you want about Manny’s negatives, but there is no denying that the man just completely dominates a baseball game. His impact is felt everywhere. He makes everyone around him better, it’s downright scary to imagine what this lineup could do with a solidifying presence. In this Latino-oriented clubhouse and having Jerry Manuel at the reins with his loose stand-up personality, Manny would be embraced with open arms. There is not a single reason that can justify not bringing this man here. After going through two seasons of heart-breaking misery, we need a winning answer and rightfully deserve one. Manny Ramirez is that answer, the ultimate winner who propels us over the hump and beyond. With Johan, the best pitcher in baseball, along with Manny, the greatest hitter of this generation, that spells out only one true destiny: World Series Champions.
Make the dream come true, Fred, Jeff, and Omar.
It’s in our reach. Let’s Go Mets!
well said bro
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manny ramirez has played 15 seasons in the majors and in that time has made the playoffs 10 times on 3 different teams.
i cannot dispute the fact that Manny can be a distraction but Manny is a winner in every sense of the word.
i can understand the Yankees not signing Manny b/c well they can win a WS without him.
The Red Sox were able to trade Manny b/c well they can without him.
The mets on the other hand are nowhere near on the level of the yankees or the sox and Manny despite his “disruptions” makes this team that much better to the point where signing him can make the difference between making the playoffs or missing out for 3rd year in a row…
Oleo, you can’t say that the mets are nowhere near both of them, despite having the worst bullpen ever by a conteding team we still won 89 games and have average 92 wins for the past 3 years.. with that being said i love manny here becoz he will make everybody better.. and yes we will be an automatic world series contender..
No, his Teams were winners, he’s just a jerk.
Sign Manny for 2 years guanteed, with bonus incentives. Resign Pedro, and get Lowe, and Nady. World championship if this is done!
so you will have church, manny and nady competing for 2 of spots?
Competition is good. Nady and Church platooning in right. That will keep Church healthy. Let Manny be Manny. Pedro will keep him under control. FORGET REDDING! Pedro can still give you six good innings. He will come into camp healthy, and over his personal problems with his father. SIGN PEDRO!
pedro hasn’t come close to 150 innings since 2005. in 109 innings last year his era was close to 6.
also, since when has he been able to give 6 good innings? last year he blew up in the 1st inning more often than not, which means he’s likely to be just as useless out of the pen as he is as a starter. it’s time for the organization to thank pedro for all the media hype and merch sales, admit that he’s always been a lot more important to the mets off the field than he has ever has been on it, and say our goodbyes. i’ve always liked the guy, but let’s put our sentiments to the side and step into the real world
hello all my fellows mets fans!! i hope everybody had a nice christmas!!
with that being said the mets should go after manny, but then again i don’t blame them for being scare, is not that he’s a bad person or anything, is that they’re afraid he might be unhappy making 22 millions and they would have a bad investment in their hands..
“The mets on the other hand are nowhere near on the level of the yankees or the sox ”
BS. Pure BS.
The Mets beat the Yankees head to head last season. The WS winner came out of the NL East. And the Mets beat up on the WS winner last season.
Sure, the Yankees made big additions this winter, but they have an aging core that could be on the verge of a meltdown (A-Rod, Posada, Jeter, Rivera, Matsui, Damon). They have such a volatile mix that it could explode in their faces. I hope the Yankees do add Manny to add to their collection of oversized underachieving egos. It will be a real zoo then.
the Yankees (even before the offseason) and Red Sox are much better than the Mets
The Red Sox are easily the best team in baseball
If the Mets and Yankees switched leagues for one year, the Mets would have no shot at the playoffs.
The day in day out line-up of The Saux and The Yanks are far superior to The Mets.I don’t care how old they are, better is better.And because the Mets be the Yanks head to head last years means nothing.The Yanks pitching staff was in disarray last year, it won’t be this year, while the Mets still have to prove they aren’t chokers.
manny is a whole other kinda spirit than those arrogant yankee pigs. manny BELONGS on the mets.
I agree. He will play well for Jerry and Omar.
He’s a winner, and the man you need for the September run. Pull the trigger Omar!
So what – exactly – is the Wilpons’ problem with Manny? I’m thinking it’s not the money. Is it the ‘Manny being Manny’ problem they think he’ll bring to the team?
I just can’t wrap my brain around any major league player – especially a super star – deliberately sabotaging his career by the ‘antics’ the Red Sox say he pulled while in Boston. But apparently, those were more than rumors.
So the question remains if he does land with the Mets, for less than he wanted, will it be a problem?
Apparently though, the point is moot since the Wilpons are saying no to Manny….
If the Mets sign Manny Ramirez, will it be the next Mo Vaughn signing? There may be a curse on the Mets since 1986 if they sign any former Boston Red Sox players.
That is my only concern with getting Manny. His numbers speak for themselves. But so did Mo Vaughns! I can just see it happening again but at 10 times the cost to the organization and the fans.
Is he worth the risk? Just look at Brett Farve and the Jets. Maybe that is your answer.
Is there any possibility that MLB has instructed teams to stay away from Manny? for quitting on the Red Sox? This would be illegal right?
that is called collusion and yes it is illegal although anyone with a brain knows that collusion occured with regards to Barry Bonds.
that said Manny will have a job next year and hopefully its LF for the NY Mets
Not a Chance in the World.
I think this goes beyond Manny. It has to. I believe that the Wilpons lost more money than they claim they did and the Mets flat out can’t afford Manny. I mean, it’s the only feasible reason. Manny is available, we need a LF and we’re not even kicking the tires? C’mon, something is up.
No Darth Manuel.
I am 100% positive that this would breach a pre-existing contractual agreement that the Player’s Union has in line with MLB. There is no way the PU would allow this to happen.
I still think we are going after our LF-er, AFTER we secure Lowe. By admitting to it now, we not only reveal our hand, but we lose leverage.
Here’s hoping. Do think theres something
personal however w/Manny. If Ownership
really wants to do all to win a championship,
You do whatevers needed like sign to best
and most clutch righty-hitter of his time.
Especially when your greatest need is a
righty-hitting,corner OFer & RBI machine.
signing manny would be an INVESTMENT with a high return for the wilpons
Amen!, I’ve been preaching this for weeks.
no investment is a guarantee lock. as wilpon has already found out w/ madoff. manny might put up numbers from 2007. would he be worth 25 mil then?
Yeah, But for of Manny’s worts
turns out hes less of a gamble and more
trustworthy.
If you sign Manny, you will sell another 5,000-or more tickets per game. Now that’s an investment for the Wilpons.
and i guarentee the manny mets jersey would be the #1 seller
Except for the likely fact that all of the games in the brand new (and lower capacity) citifield will be sold out for the duration of the 2-3 years Manny’s potential contract would cover with or without him.
You don’t think that new building will be sold out regardless?
And re: merchandise sales, Manny’s might be number one (an uphill battle v. Wright and Santana) but I don’t think it would increase the total number of jerseys that would be sold. People who buy Manny jerseys would likely have bought a different player’s otherwise.
“And re: merchandise sales, Manny’s might be number one (an uphill battle v. Wright and Santana) but I don’t think it would increase the total number of jerseys that would be sold. People who buy Manny jerseys would likely have bought a different player’s otherwise.”
Obviously you have little to no scope of the Manny dynamic, and how his popularity transcends the bounds of baseball alone; especially here in Ny. Let’s look at some crude numbers since I’m not going to the census bureau, and doing the logistical legwork since I’m not getting paid for it. However, let’s just say there’s 800,000 Dominican’s in Ny. Let’s say 75% of them don’t give a whit about baseball, Manny, or the Mets. Lets say of that remaining 200,000 that 35,000 are already Mets fans. I’ll strike another 50,000 off for fans of other teams. That still leaves 115,000 people that could have a very strong connection to the Mets if they signed their pride Manny Ramirez.
Of that 115,000 let’s modestly say around 30% would actually spend money who otherwise wouldn’t on Manny merchandise/Mets. Let’s just say signing Manny I believe can easily attract 25 to 30 thousand new sources of revenue for the Mets all by himself. At let’s say 300$ per person on average over the course of a year = 9 million…now, my numbers are probably off since I’m just making them up from what I consider reasonable, but…that’s 9 million extra dollars, new dollars that would have NEVER came into the Mets possession otherwise.
I know what you’re going to say that if Manny is making 23+ million what does 9 million dollars do? Number one, Manny’s popularity isn’t confined to the Dominican community, and he’d certainly be a popular merchandise item regardless thereby increasing revenue streams abroad. His Mets jersey would sell nationally which is not only great myopically, but no doubt has provident implications. Those provident implications are not to be taken lightly at all as it may be the greatest benefit business wise of all.
It’s not a stretch to think Manny increases the Mets merchandising profit 15% all by himself. How much do you think the Mets pull in from merchandise alone annually? 100 million? around? easy probably….I could see Manny all by his lonesome being worth about 15 million in merchandise alone annually. Then factor in ballpark attraction, buzz, exposure, tv-ad revenue…the Manny effect in Ny for the Mets would totally be astronomical…especially after the last two years, baseball’s popularity boom is starting to go stale…the NY Times are not exactly a bunch of dummies….if the Mets got Manny Ramirez, and filled out their rotation, added a lefty and got a real utility man worth his weight – NOT CORA – then baseball in Ny would thrive like it was on steroids…if Baseball in Ny thrives, baseball everywhere does…if the Mets don’t get Manny, mark my words…baseball will be back to where it was in the late 80’s/early 90’s….except it’ll be on a downward spiral instead of an upward one…which isn’t entirely bad, but it could be a lot better. Maybe people feel I’m unintelligent or whatever, and love to think I’m wrong(although I never am), but you can mark my words – if the Mets don’t sign Manny it will have an irreversible devastating effect to the popularity of the game itself. Mostly due to the yankays spending…if there’s at least a semblance of parity it becomes fun again…
“Dominican’s”
Dominicans*
You huddle up w/ Boras, yeah, I know,
Offer a package of contracts for Lowe,Manny
and Cora. And fill our 3 needs.
One problem with Manny to consider is that the team already has an issue with Reyes, who doesn’t always run hard to first base. If Manny starts doing that too, how does Manuel handle that?
the same way it was handled with reyes.
Here’s the larger picture problem:
What does it say about Omar’s negotiating ability, persuasiveness and salesmanship if he cannot convince his OWN owner- a guy who was swindled out of $300M by a con man, mind you – to sign a very talented ballplayer who is a perfect fit for the team’s needs?
You have to think that Omar himself may have his own doubts. Maybe he finally learned his lesson about the high risk of older players.
BTW, this same con man conned Spielberg and Mort Zuckerman along with many other well respected business people.
gipper – it says nothing at all about omar.
Perhaps the fact that Mr. Wilpon was swindled is why he’s being so much more cautious.
It says absolutely nothing about anything because your proposition is factually flawed every which way until next Tuesday.
First, Sterling was swindled by one of the biggest big shots on Wall Street, who was well-known and respected on Wall Street for decades. He was not your run of the mill boiler room con-man.
Second, Manny is not a “perfect fit.” He’s a defensively challenged outfielder who will have to play in a large outfield, supporting a fly ball yielding left handed pitcher (making LF a critical defensive position when Johan pitches — and, no, murphy/tatis are no better) who is entering his late thirties and asking for a multi-year contract. No to mention he’s a malcontent who orchestrated his way out of a team and city that were very good to him. Yes, I’d like to see his bat in the lineup, but I can also see the negatives that render him less than perfect.
Third, It’s not Omar’s job to negotiate with the Wilpons. Persuade, perhaps, but not negotiate. Omar has no leverage in a negotiation other than to threaten to quit. So, no, this does not reflect on his ability to negotiate.
In any event, I think Omar has proven his ability to negotiate when you look at the team favorable contracts for K-Rod, Wright and Reyes and the deals he made for Santana, Delgado and Putz. He was able to persuade Pedro and Beltran to come to NY amid a lot of controversy — even if it meant overpaying because that’s what it took to persuade. (and yes, I know he’s made some terrible deals but that doesn’t mean he does not have the ability to make good ones)
Wow, you guys have to lighten up.
See my response to VCarver. I know all about Madoff’s pedigree.
I will write this slowly:
I …was….being….facetious,… funny, …satirical….unserious.
What reply? I think it went to Metsblog purgatory (awaiting moderation). In which case you have to take out any word which the over-zealous filter thinks is naughty in order to have it show up.
Fungalou,
I don’t think there is a personal issue with Manny. I still have not seen a legitimate reason for them NOT to go after him. Everytime someone has asked Omar, he responds by saying that pitching is his primary objective. He has also not wanted to get into bidding wars, as there really isn’t a need to. He has never come out and said, “Ownership has a problem with him,” or “We want him on a one or two year deal, not three.” I think he is just keep his options open. If he says that he needs a LF-er, don’t you think the Agents of the existing LFers will know that their clients become a necessity, as opposed to a luxury.
I would like to think that the Mets are just playing it smart. We had to be open about our holes in our rotation. It was evident, we lost two to free agency, without obvious replacements. Same applies to our pen. Any reporter or analyst could have conjured an article speculating that the Mets needed a new bullpen.
When you act as if you are happy with your left field platoon and/or 2B, you have more leverage. You can live without it. I think Omar and the Mets know that Manny is the ideal fit. As long as the price is right, I don’t doubt they would not kick the tires. I think they are playing it right, the only Of-er that has signed is Ibanez.
Please don’t sign Manny! I’d hate to see him hurt the chemistry of a team that’s choked big time the past two Septembers. His hitting in the clutch may confuse his teammates.
LMAO!!!!!!!!!! good one bro
Yeah it’s really funny for sure … but it’s also sad because there are actually people who can’t see that this team is soft and filled with too many nice guys. The Mets need an arsehole like Manny … one that hits. That’s the plain truth.
Fraud Wilpon likes his soft, image conscious, pc loser team though, just as long as there is profit being made losing isn’t so bad …so don’t expect that to change or the blind loser followers to change anytime soon.
hey manny was a dodger, so wilpon must love manny now :)
Oh man … You just gave Omar his best tactic to bring forth to ownership. That’s genius! LOL
Even though you’re being a smart-alec you’ve made the best point of the day!! What chemistry??????
This is Increible, i cant not believe that you need to talk to owner and talk talk in order to ry to get manny ramirez….come on!!! this is about winning games, and world series….this is not about persnality or anything like that.
Dan Graziano has a new Manny Ramirez article out, good read.
Anyone seen Cerrone ????
Somebody nudge him and see if he’s awake……ONE article since 6:10 a.m. ??!!!
C’mon Matt…..you’re slacking off !!!
They’ll look into Manny before this is done, but I think that Omar and the Wilpons are feeling pretty good about the team as is (well once Lowe is on board).
Manny is the answer, i really think mets need to get him, so we dont have another september like last year
This is about winning forget about what he did in boston, by the way it was a good run for boston 2 world series, no manny in boston no world series think about this
This has to be the main point. So many people look at the negatives, but he made Ortiz a star and was the best hitter on a team that reversed a horrible curse.
We need to look at manny ramirez as a baseball player he makes things happen, David will be better Jose will be better even Beltran will be a better hitter if manny is in the lineup
Jayson Stark is reporting that the Dodgers have been in contact with Adam Dunn. This is a very good tactic for them re: Manny.
hopefully they sign him too
It’s “awaiting moderation, a few above us here. That filter DOES need work, though!
Let me try to reprint it here:
I don’t know about your first paragraph – all reports are that Omar has always wanted Manny and has been unable to convince Wilpon. Perhaps Omar has soured on Manny too and Fred is just giving him cover? All speculation until we see any reports that say anything other than the standard “Omar wants Manny but has been denied by Wilpon” storyline.
As for Madoff – I know this wasn’t the typical grifter working cons on gullible trust fund widows – he was the head of NASDAQ, for crying out loud. Certainly, it is understandable that smart people got taken in. Was just being funny. That said, many people figured out Madoff was cheating – one guy took his gains and left the fund thinking “I knew Madoff was cheating – I just as-sumed it was insider trading, not a Ponzi scheme.” LOL
Ugh, above meant for VCarver in thread above. Not my day.
this is more like it
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I just dont see the complication, Omar`s job is to make his team better, now, imagine this line up:
Reyes (switch)
Wrigth (rigth)
Beltran(switch)
Manny (rigth)
Delgado (left)
Etc……………………..
That would make the team FAR better, not to mention the kind of production all of the above can have just for hitting in front of Manny.
Plus, that’ll make dumping Castillo’s mistake less of a priority, though, it would be nice to dumping it and get Hudson, who’s on the record saying he’s willing to wait a bit for the Mets to get rid of Castillo, that’s a 1,000 runs line up gentleman.
Omar’s done a fine job this off season, and he’s in good shape to get Lowe and Ollie, by far the 2 better starting pitchers of the market, Sheets is an injury waiting to happen, plus, how could you not want Ollie after the way he pitched 2 seasons ago against Atlanta, or this past season against the Yankees or Philly.
This offense is not good enough to win a World Series, unless its gets crazy hot in october.
GET MANNY……………………………….
LOL!!
yes, and then re-sign him for ANOTHER year when he is 42 :)