Comments on: Outfield: Giants get in on Manny Ramirez http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/02/outfield-giants-get-in-on-manny-ramirez/ MetsBlog.com features the latest Mets rumors, player movement, and news circulating around the Internet, as well as Mets related insights and opinions by Matthew Cerrone and his team of guest bloggers. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:15:16 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: metsblow4show http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/02/outfield-giants-get-in-on-manny-ramirez/#comment-419701 metsblow4show Sat, 03 Jan 2009 00:20:52 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/02/outfield-giants-get-in-on-manny-ramirez/#comment-419701 No Metlifer, that would be the Phils with 46 year old Jamie Moyer, 41 year old Matt Stairs, and soon to be 37 year old Raul Ibanez. Remember this in September when your Muts are pulling off The Big Choke...Part 3 ! No Metlifer, that would be the Phils with 46 year old Jamie Moyer, 41 year old Matt Stairs, and soon to be 37 year old Raul Ibanez. Remember this in September when your Muts are pulling off The Big Choke…Part 3 !

]]> By: groverland1 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/02/outfield-giants-get-in-on-manny-ramirez/#comment-419698 groverland1 Sat, 03 Jan 2009 00:18:41 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/02/outfield-giants-get-in-on-manny-ramirez/#comment-419698 I know I am in the minority but NO MANNY AT ANY PRICE He is a clubhouse cancer He is a terrible defender He does not play hard He will quit on his team if anytime he thinks he is underpaid He turns 37 this May Let's start a petition to demand the Mets make no attempt to sign Manny Ramirez. I know I am in the minority but
NO MANNY AT ANY PRICE

He is a clubhouse cancer
He is a terrible defender
He does not play hard
He will quit on his team if anytime he thinks he is underpaid
He turns 37 this May

Let’s start a petition to demand the Mets make no attempt to sign Manny Ramirez.

]]> By: anditsouttahere http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/02/outfield-giants-get-in-on-manny-ramirez/#comment-419532 anditsouttahere Fri, 02 Jan 2009 19:57:12 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/02/outfield-giants-get-in-on-manny-ramirez/#comment-419532 perhaps we aren't looking to sign Manny because F-Mart may be closer to the bigs than we think. his DWL numbers are pretty solid and he's healthy now perhaps we aren’t looking to sign Manny because F-Mart may be closer to the bigs than we think. his DWL numbers are pretty solid and he’s healthy now

]]> By: MetLifer http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/02/outfield-giants-get-in-on-manny-ramirez/#comment-419517 MetLifer Fri, 02 Jan 2009 19:17:45 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/02/outfield-giants-get-in-on-manny-ramirez/#comment-419517 Yeah.. the Giants will clearly be the OLDEST TEAM to beat. LOL Yeah.. the Giants will clearly be the OLDEST TEAM to beat. LOL

]]> By: xmulderx http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/02/outfield-giants-get-in-on-manny-ramirez/#comment-419512 xmulderx Fri, 02 Jan 2009 19:12:17 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/02/outfield-giants-get-in-on-manny-ramirez/#comment-419512 I voted no, but when i did the question asked was would you sign Manny to 3years if it meant you could not sign the starting pitcher. Now it simply asks would you sign Manny to a 3year deal. So i think this poll should be scrapped and done over. I voted no, but when i did the question asked was would you sign Manny to 3years if it meant you could not sign the starting pitcher. Now it simply asks would you sign Manny to a 3year deal. So i think this poll should be scrapped and done over.

]]> By: veronajoe http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/02/outfield-giants-get-in-on-manny-ramirez/#comment-419478 veronajoe Fri, 02 Jan 2009 17:54:05 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/02/outfield-giants-get-in-on-manny-ramirez/#comment-419478 GREAT HITTER....BUT no to Manny. I know you root for the UNIFORM, but taking 3 straight pitches and striking out on purpose to "send a message", faking an injuries, and letting down your entire team (filled with people like ortiz who you are supposedly close with) is not a guy i want around or a guy i want to root for/attempt to win with GREAT HITTER….BUT no to Manny. I know you root for the UNIFORM, but taking 3 straight pitches and striking out on purpose to “send a message”, faking an injuries, and letting down your entire team (filled with people like ortiz who you are supposedly close with) is not a guy i want around or a guy i want to root for/attempt to win with

]]> By: therealsince86 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/02/outfield-giants-get-in-on-manny-ramirez/#comment-419467 therealsince86 Fri, 02 Jan 2009 17:36:16 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/02/outfield-giants-get-in-on-manny-ramirez/#comment-419467 LOL so now we are supposed to mold our lineup around.... JC Romero? Besides isn't that what Tatis and Castro are for? You would have 3 guys batting RH and 3 LH against the LHRP. LOL so now we are supposed to mold our lineup around…. JC Romero? Besides isn’t that what Tatis and Castro are for? You would have 3 guys batting RH and 3 LH against the LHRP.

]]> By: Hazmet http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/02/outfield-giants-get-in-on-manny-ramirez/#comment-419466 Hazmet Fri, 02 Jan 2009 17:36:15 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/02/outfield-giants-get-in-on-manny-ramirez/#comment-419466 For me, the Mets offense was good early in games and awful thereafter. So I looked at Elias Sports Bureau at stats for Late Innings in Close Games for the following. Delgado, Wright, Beltran, Reyes, Church had a combined 223 AB’s that resulted in 18 RBI’s. If you remove Beltran’s 49 AB’s and 8 RBI’s what’s left is 10 RBI’s in 174 AB’s. Manny alone for 2008: 48 AB’s and 9 RBI’s. While this didn’t exactly give me an overwhelming case in favor of Manny since the selection’s I made are skewed by having Reyes who shouldn’t be looked at as an RBI guy and Church who missed large chunks of the season it does make the case for how awful our team performed in the clutch and how we can use him. Only Beltran’s number’s could hold up as comparable to Manny’s. Also, for comparison Dunn was 7 RBI’s in 40AB’s. Seeing that the Wilpon’s aren’t going to change their mind based on Omar’s wishes alone I’m hoping the script plays out as sign Lowe and Lowe comes in and helps Omar sell the Wilpon’s on how Manny is a difference maker without being the distraction he’s made out to be. This would take some sell job, and with Lowe not being thrilled with the Mets offer this scenario may never have a chance to occur. Short of a new voice coming in and pitching Manny to Jeff and Fred I just don’t see them changing their minds. But I can hope, since they need his stick. For me, the Mets offense was good early in games and awful thereafter. So I looked at Elias Sports Bureau at stats for Late Innings in Close Games for the following.

Delgado, Wright, Beltran, Reyes, Church had a combined 223 AB’s that resulted in 18 RBI’s. If you remove Beltran’s 49 AB’s and 8 RBI’s what’s left is 10 RBI’s in 174 AB’s.

Manny alone for 2008: 48 AB’s and 9 RBI’s. While this didn’t exactly give me an overwhelming case in favor of Manny since the selection’s I made are skewed by having Reyes who shouldn’t be looked at as an RBI guy and Church who missed large chunks of the season it does make the case for how awful our team performed in the clutch and how we can use him. Only Beltran’s number’s could hold up as comparable to Manny’s. Also, for comparison Dunn was 7 RBI’s in 40AB’s.

Seeing that the Wilpon’s aren’t going to change their mind based on Omar’s wishes alone I’m hoping the script plays out as sign Lowe and Lowe comes in and helps Omar sell the Wilpon’s on how Manny is a difference maker without being the distraction he’s made out to be. This would take some sell job, and with Lowe not being thrilled with the Mets offer this scenario may never have a chance to occur. Short of a new voice coming in and pitching Manny to Jeff and Fred I just don’t see them changing their minds. But I can hope, since they need his stick.

]]> By: metsftw http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/02/outfield-giants-get-in-on-manny-ramirez/#comment-419462 metsftw Fri, 02 Jan 2009 17:25:06 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/02/outfield-giants-get-in-on-manny-ramirez/#comment-419462 those stats are the opposite of intangible, but whatever. those stats are the opposite of intangible, but whatever.

]]> By: lips5725 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/02/outfield-giants-get-in-on-manny-ramirez/#comment-419461 lips5725 Fri, 02 Jan 2009 17:24:26 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/02/outfield-giants-get-in-on-manny-ramirez/#comment-419461 Obviouslly, im talking about ballplayers i have seen in my day. im 28.. as far as comparing arod to manny.. your comparing a winner to a loser. a clutch player to a choke artist... Obviouslly, im talking about ballplayers i have seen in my day. im 28.. as far as comparing arod to manny.. your comparing a winner to a loser. a clutch player to a choke artist…

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