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Relief Pitcher: Mets and Cordero, Hoffman Signs
By Matthew Cerrone - Jan 8, 2009 10:54 am

Ken Davidoff of Newsday says the Mets will watch free-agent relief pitcher Chad Cordero throw on Friday.

The Brewers, Rangers, D’Backs, Nationals and Tigers will also watch Cordero, according to published reports.

Cordero missed the second half of last season following shoulder surgery, but is expected to be ready for Spring Training.

Last month, the OC Register said Cordero could miss the first month of the season, according to the player’s agent.

Cordero, 26, has yet to finish a season with an ERA above 3.36 in his six-year career, during which he has been successful 83 percent of the time in save opportunities, while striking out 292 batters in 320 innings.

According to D.C. reporter Bill Ladson, of MLB.com, Cordero’s first choice would be to sign with the Angels.  However, he says, “Cordero also wouldn’t mind having a reunion with Omar Minaya.”

Speaking of relief pitchers…

The Brewers and free-agent RHP Trevor Hoffman have agreed on a deal, according to Buster Olney of ESPN.com, per MLBTR.

74 Responses to “Relief Pitcher: Mets and Cordero, Hoffman Signs”

  1. the_other_matt says:

    “Cordero also wouldn’t mind having a reunion with Omar Minaya.” –> That’s horse-poop. These guys go where they get the most money, or the most exposure. Cordero is not coming here to pitch the 7th if someone offers him a closer or set-up job.

    • F.Calisi says:

      I sometimes wonder how much the players consider more money over getting to a winning team with a chance to win it all. For instance, if the Nationals offered Tex way more money than the Yankees (of course, this is all in theory) would he have settled to be on a team with 1:2 win loss ratio just for all the cash?

      • jamie says:

        I read that the Nats did precisely that: offered 185 and were even willing to go to 200. So it would seem, in this case at least, winning mattered more than a few extra mil.

        • uppertank says:

          you have to factor in things like Tex doing some advertising which will bring in more cash in NY.

      • rM teM says:

        would you?

    • therealsince86 says:

      Who is going to offer him a closer’s job?

      He would be a 7th inning guy here. Somewhere that has a good team but he would have little pressure. Then his stats would look great and he could get a big contract next season.

      • its hard to be a met fan says:

        My money is on the Tigers

        • therealsince86 says:

          He could be a good fit there but I don’t see him getting the closing role. Another thing to think about is that if he wants to earn a big contract, he may rather stay in the NL. If I was him I would be looking at NL West teams. He could pitch average there and have a 1.00 ERA.

  2. alex242 says:

    “Cordero also wouldn’t mind having a reunion with Omar Minaya.”

    my take on that will be backwards, due to his enfatuation wit former expos/nationals players he help drafted and develop should be

    “Minaya also wouldn’t mind having a reunion with Chad Cordero.”

    i honestly hope this moron don’t go and give him a 4 year deal!!

  3. jscand says:

    If Cordero would be willing to take an incentive laden deal to pitch the 7th inning, I don’t see any harm in that. The way we’ve seen bullpen pitchers wear down, it would be great to have someone come in a month or two into the season. Especially someone who has been a solid closer and is still young.

    Then, if somehow Wanger is back by August, the Mets could have four top notch closers in their bullpen at the same time.

    • therealsince86 says:

      Agreed, then you could trade a reliever for what could be a much needed bat at the time.

  4. CaseStreet says:

    Actually, I’m just hoping Sanchez has a bounce back year.

    • alex242 says:

      He will case.. i see that too.. plus this guy i’m sure will be no better than sanchez was last year.. i see him having the same crappy year based on the fact he did have a shoulder injury.. yet we scare of sheets but since this guy was an expo/national omar is considering him..

      • therealsince86 says:

        Alex do you get your logic from hanging around at the play ground after school?
        Do you honestly think that the Sheets situation and Cordero even compare? Sheets still wants multiple years and most likely 10’s of millions. Cordero at this point might be a spring training invite that will cost at most 1 million.
        Why are the other teams interested in Cordero? Is it because they loved the Expos’ too?

        • alex242 says:

          OTHER TEAMS??? WHO ARE THEY??

          • alex242 says:

            They’re gonna watch how he progres-s.. not that they lining up to sign him!!

          • therealsince86 says:

            So using your own logic here, so are the Mets. No team has offered him a contract. The Mets are one of MANY teams listed as interested. Which is what I said all along.

          • alex242 says:

            to be honest, i don’t want him based on the fact that sanchez is here and we all saw how he came back from that shoulder injury..

          • Xavier22 says:

            Yet you believe Sanchez will have a bounce back year. You have a dizzying logic.

          • alex242 says:

            At least sanchez won’t be a waste of signing if he fails.. but if he fails i’m sure you will be one of the first one criticizing the signing..

          • therealsince86 says:

            One has nothing to do with the other Alex.
            Right now we have
            Krod
            Putz
            Feliciano
            Green
            All comitted spots.
            We still need to solve 3 more spots and currently have
            Stokes, Sanchez and Parnell. Bringing in another guy just makes for better competition.

          • jaydh says:

            Sanchez wasn’t bad last year. why do people keep saying he was?

          • alex242 says:

            uh… he was 5-1 with an 4.32 ERA.. but i gues he got tired becoz in august and sept combine he was 0-1 with 6.00 ERA!!

    • therealsince86 says:

      True but would it not be nice to have some insurance incase he does not?
      Krod
      Putz
      Cordero
      Feliciano
      Green
      Sanchez
      Stokes
      Thats a very good pen.

      • wadehead9 says:

        I’ll go out on the limb and say,

        “Best in the Bigs”

        Add Wagner, and it’s no longer debateable.

      • alex242 says:

        No is not.. feliciano is the only lefty in the pen.. and we have seeen how SH**TY he can be when bad..

        • therealsince86 says:

          Look at the splits Alex of all of those pitchers and come back to me and tell me why we need to waste money on a LOOGY.
          If you need help after school looking that up, let me know.

          • alex242 says:

            lol, u still with that school sutff.. ok.. i’ll see you in august when feliciano is out of gas and we need a lefty to face a lefty..

          • therealsince86 says:

            You still don’t get the idea of splits do you?
            Hey who knows maybe Wagner is back then anyway.
            But think about this. If Sanchez or Cordero, which ever one is healthy is pitching in the 7th inning are you taking them out for a LOOGY? What about Putz and Krod are you taking them out for a LOOGY? That leaves basically the 6th inning area where you might need a LOOGY.
            Last year the pen killed us because of specialization. This year, I hope Omar just gets the better pitcher regardless of handedness.

          • alex242 says:

            yeah, me too.. but if anything i’d give guardado a contract first than this guy..

        • wadehead9 says:

          Our pen is so incredibly superior to last year, it is amazing to even think this type of an over-haul was even possible. But with KRod and Putz, we only have 1-2 innings left for any other reliever. You don’t think we can get 3-6 outs with 5 other relievers? How many bullpen changes would you like to make in the 6th/7th innings?

          Feliciano is a high quality LOOGY. He was abused last year, pitching way more frequently than he should have in the first half of the year, then was fatigued (especially mentally) in the second half, and in particular September.

          Going back to what I’ve seen you post already today, you are optimistic about Sanchez returning to ‘06. If that’s the case, shouldn’t we feel equally optimistic that Feliciano could too? And furthermore, suppose Sanchez does return to his ‘06 form, he now owns the 7th.

          All that being said, we need two LOOGYs for the potential 3 outs of the 6th inning that our starters may frequently be able to pitch through on their own?

          That’s a scary thought.

          • alex242 says:

            wade:
            that’s my point, why sign cordero if sanchez can be like he was in 06.. but now we even have more options, stokes, sanchez, reid to pitch the 7th..

          • therealsince86 says:

            IT’s toing to be a signing that would not hurt us getting anyone else. It’s not like you are chosing him over Sanchez.
            Right now again
            Krod
            Putz
            Felciano
            Greeen
            That leaves 3 spots and you only have 3 real options for those spots right now. Would you not rather have Parnell in AAA as a backup starter and be taking a chance on Cordero to fill the other spot?

          • wadehead9 says:

            If Cordero can be signed for a very cheap, 1 year deal, it makes absolute sense. The most underrated and most critical component of a baseball team is its bullpen. You can better handle a suspect starting rotation with a good bullpen. The same can’t be said for the opposite.

            If you’re pen is stellar (and deep), you can better absorb starters going only 4-5-6 innings, because you have an army of bullpen arms to throw out there. You will have much better success in stranding runners as well – which – is going to be Feliciano’s roll anyway.

            Having another proven, young, electric bullpen arm like Cordero just makes our already great bullpen even better. It allows Parnell to do his thing in the minors, and maybe even develop into a better SP prospect.

            And to put the bullet squarely between the horse’s eyes, your bullpen is essential (obvioiusly) in extra inning games too.

            No such thing as too many good relievers.

        • jaydh says:

          Sanchez, Putz, Frod are righties who are all capable of pitching against lefties.

      • One Day This Team Will Kill Me says:

        dont forget the rule 5 guys

        I think we are set for spring training with the pen, Cordero would be a bonus, and if we end up needed another lefty we could always trade for one, but im comfortable as is

    • CaseStreet says:

      too bad Burgos won’t be in the mix.

  5. brapp says:

    I don’t see anything about the angels being one of the teams that are going to watch cordero pitch. Hopefully he’s telling the truth about a reunion with minaya. I’d love to have this guy (if healthy) pitch the 7th inning for us. Our bullpen would be stacked.

  6. Chris Alvino says:

    I always respected Cordero for being an all-star caliber closer for such a bad team. I would love to have his ability in our pen.

    I have always been a fan of signing excess at some spots in the off-season because you never know who will get hurt in a year. I still think that Omar should be looking to have a veteran starter stashed at AAA. The same goes for the pen. What happens if Putz is hurt? What about K-Rod? Then our season ends up like last year. Yu really can never have enough, especially with this team.

    If Lowe does not want to come here, I am still in on Sheets. The thought of him pitching behind Santana is crazy to think about.

  7. NickA33 says:

    Cordero would be a solid sign. Yes, he was injured last year but if he can bounce back then he’d be a vaulable addition to our BP already. And, he would make an outstanding 7th inning guy.

    It all depends on what Cordero is looking for. I’m sure Omar has a slight advantage over the competition due to their past relationship but, if we are willing to sign, Cordero must be okay with being a set up guy and not a Closer.

  8. stickguy says:

    Someone posted this above:

    “You don’t think we can get 3-6 outs with 5 other relievers? ”

    based on last September, I vote “not always”!

    If COrdero still has decent stuff, and they can get him on an incentive laden deal (especially if he will start off in AAA or rehabbing), grab him.

    I also think Sanchez could be better, being the 2nd year back. One can always hope.

    I also think parnell is a dark horse to have a big year bringing heat for an inning.

  9. stickguy says:

    Oh, and NO MORE OOGYS!

  10. SweepTheLeg says:

    Cordero woudl def be a solid sign, and if the mets have the chance to sign him they should. he is a very effective pitcher out of the pen and he is young. he would pitch the 7th this year, but next year putz will be gone so he wcould slide into the set up role after this year. so having cordero pitch the 7th putz in 8th and krod in 9th is solid.

    • therealsince86 says:

      Unless traded or he stinks Putz will be here next year. The Mets are not going to turn down his option and let him walk.

  11. DoYouSeeInHD says:

    I don’t get the fans who think Feliciano is an acceptable seventh inning option. He had a WHIP of over 1.50. That means that every two innings he pitches, he gives up three hits or walks. Broken down, that means that one of those two innings he gives up at least two hits or walks. If he comes with noone on base, it makes for a tense inning. If he comes in with a man on first or second (which is often the case) he is guaranteed to give up a run. It doesn’t really matter what his splits are if he is this ineffective overall.

    Speaking of which, does anyone know his WHIP lefty/righty splits? Just curious how many hits he gives up to the lefties. God, I can’t wait ’til he’s off the team….

    • CaseStreet says:

      Feliciano will have a much better year now that he will be used correctly.

    • longislandmetsfan says:

      yeah, feliciano is the definition of loogy, and should be used accordingly. if used correctly, (which we have to believe he will be, in the “new” bullpen) he should do just fine….again, how often are we going to be in need of his services? for multiple outs, it should be a lot less than last year….again, I am of the belief that sanchez is going to bounce back to ‘06 form this year, and we have that guy green who came with putz, ( who supposedly is great according to putz, and a groundball machine I heard somewhere else) so really, how often are we going to be looking to bring in feliciano to get a couple of lefties out, or more importantly, how often are we going to be asking him to get multiple outs from both sides of the plate? as of right now, we would have to think it is not going to be that often….we do not need another “oogy” of any kind, BUT another good arm in that pen (such as cordero) who can get guys out from both sides, can NEVER hurt…

    • therealsince86 says:

      Feliciano
      2008 WHIP vs LH 1.02 .210 BA
      Career WHIP vs LH 1.09 and .214.
      So against LH hitters last year he was better than his career numbers.
      Last year the problem was they kept hoping he could get a RH out.

      • alex242 says:

        He shuts down utley and howard for the most part, it was everybody else who hit him!! lol..

    • longislandmetsfan says:

      who was saying that feliciano was a good option to be our 7th inning guy? I missed that one….he is a loogy, (and really not a bad one) but nothing more….

      • alex242 says:

        if i was a snitch i’d tell you it was the real, but i’m not..

        • longislandmetsfan says:

          lol….yeah, he is in no way a complete inning guy, (unless in said inning there happens to be 3 lefties coming up) I’m thinking sanchez in the 7th, this guy green sounds really good for the 7th, IF cordero came here, he’d be good for the 7th, etc….

          • fongulalou says:

            You should stop with the Feliciano hating.
            The guy was put in positions to do things
            hes not capable/suited to do.
            His role was during ‘06 and should be,
            to come into a game in the 6th or 7th and
            get a lefty or two out. Nothing more.

    • DoYouSeeInHD says:

      Leave Delgado alone. He’s our first baseman of the future.

  12. Wanny Backstra says:

    Cordero for middle reliever money is a no-brainer as long as expectations are not too high.

  13. The Slider says:

    Cordero wouldn’t mind having a reunion with Mr. $$$$$$$$$. I find it hard to believe that this former successful closer is now going to be satified as a 7th inning guy.

  14. keep it posi says:

    Getting Cordero would be nice but c’mon do we really need another closer-caliber relief pitcher?