Comments on: Starting Pitcher: Mets confident in One of Two http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/12/starting-pitcher-mets-confident-in-one-of-two/ Latest Mets News, Links, Rumors and Opinion Fri, 04 Feb 2011 21:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mister-y-Met http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/12/starting-pitcher-mets-confident-in-one-of-two/#comment-428243 Mister-y-Met Tue, 13 Jan 2009 03:09:16 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/12/starting-pitcher-mets-still-confident-in-one-of-two/#comment-428243 Matt go back to the old format...... Matt go back to the old format……

]]> By: Mister-y-Met http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/12/starting-pitcher-mets-confident-in-one-of-two/#comment-428236 Mister-y-Met Tue, 13 Jan 2009 02:55:22 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/12/starting-pitcher-mets-still-confident-in-one-of-two/#comment-428236 Why don’t we go for John Garland, he’s really a decent pitcher who I think can really add value and be had on the cheap. He’s a lifetime 4.47 ERA and doesn’t walk people. Not a bad American League ERA considering he played for the W-Sox against Cleveland and Minnesota (TOUGH TEAMS). I think he’s the Sleeper in this market, especially for a National League Team. For all the money in Lowe you could get Wolf & Garland Lefty & a Righty) and move Redding to long relief. I’d say that’s a couple of innings eaters and insures us from wearing the B-Pen down again if 1 or 2 starters get injured (as is usually the case). Think of it, Lowe gets hurt, you’re screwed. But 2 for the price of one? If one gets hurt or under-performs, the other should be decent. And although I admit these guys aren’t world beaters they are quality veterans (Not the Top of the scrap heap) You don’t need World beaters (i.e see Phillies, one world beater ,Hamels and 4 decent pitchers, Moyer, Blanton, etc….) Bottom line, this deal doesn’t hurt and makes you DEEEEEP in Pitching. Remember when you pitch on a team with an offense, it’s likely they’ll pitch better as once they get a decent lead they can coast through innings rather then feel like every pitch is their last (Playing for a crappy team) Any thoughts or comments on this strategy? Why don’t we go for John Garland, he’s really a decent pitcher who I think can really add value and be had on the cheap.

He’s a lifetime 4.47 ERA and doesn’t walk people. Not a bad American League ERA considering he played for the W-Sox against Cleveland and Minnesota (TOUGH TEAMS).

I think he’s the Sleeper in this market, especially for a National League Team.

For all the money in Lowe you could get Wolf & Garland Lefty & a Righty) and move Redding to long relief. I’d say that’s a couple of innings eaters and insures us from wearing the B-Pen down again if 1 or 2 starters get injured (as is usually the case).

Think of it, Lowe gets hurt, you’re screwed. But 2 for the price of one? If one gets hurt or under-performs, the other should be decent. And although I admit these guys aren’t world beaters they are quality veterans (Not the Top of the scrap heap)

You don’t need World beaters (i.e see Phillies, one world beater ,Hamels and 4 decent pitchers, Moyer, Blanton, etc….)

Bottom line, this deal doesn’t hurt and makes you DEEEEEP in Pitching. Remember when you pitch on a team with an offense, it’s likely they’ll pitch better as once they get a decent lead they can coast through innings rather then feel like every pitch is their last (Playing for a crappy team)

Any thoughts or comments on this strategy?

]]> By: nicksta603 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/12/starting-pitcher-mets-confident-in-one-of-two/#comment-428095 nicksta603 Tue, 13 Jan 2009 00:15:39 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/12/starting-pitcher-mets-still-confident-in-one-of-two/#comment-428095 well y dont we give him a 3 year deal club option for 4th worth 15 mill we got the money we barley spent any money this off season. well y dont we give him a 3 year deal club option for 4th worth 15 mill we got the money we barley spent any money this off season.

]]> By: TRex23 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/12/starting-pitcher-mets-confident-in-one-of-two/#comment-427998 TRex23 Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:44:38 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/12/starting-pitcher-mets-still-confident-in-one-of-two/#comment-427998 I would lobby MLB to change the rules to allow Church to bat twice in place of Castillo since Castillo is obviously handicapped and cannot perform the duties of his position even WITH reasonable accomodation.l Hell, I hate the DH, but I might even go for the DH and let the pitcher hit and sit Castillo in favor of the DH. I would lobby MLB to change the rules to allow Church to bat twice in place of Castillo since Castillo is obviously handicapped and cannot perform the duties of his position even WITH reasonable accomodation.l

Hell, I hate the DH, but I might even go for the DH and let the pitcher hit and sit Castillo in favor of the DH.

]]> By: TRex23 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/12/starting-pitcher-mets-confident-in-one-of-two/#comment-427989 TRex23 Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:41:36 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/12/starting-pitcher-mets-still-confident-in-one-of-two/#comment-427989 Signing both Lowe and Perez is dumb? I'm hoping that you are being sarcastic. If not, then perhaps the Mets payroll expenses come out of YOUR pocket and therefore you don't want to spend the money. Other than that, I can't imagine why you think having a rotation that contains both Lowe and Perez along with what they already have (minus Redding) wouldn't be a POSITIVE thing for the Mets. If they were both the exact same type of pitcher (i.e., righthanded sinkerbal pitchers or lefthanded junkball pitchers), then I could see it being somewhat dumb to sign them both. You want to give the opposition different looks. But one is a righthanded hard throwing groundball pitcher and the other is a lefthanded fastball, slider, curveball, flyball pitcher. The question isn't who is better. That's a false argument. The Mets need BOTH. Signing both Lowe and Perez is dumb?

I’m hoping that you are being sarcastic. If not, then perhaps the Mets payroll expenses come out of YOUR pocket and therefore you don’t want to spend the money.

Other than that, I can’t imagine why you think having a rotation that contains both Lowe and Perez along with what they already have (minus Redding) wouldn’t be a POSITIVE thing for the Mets.

If they were both the exact same type of pitcher (i.e., righthanded sinkerbal pitchers or lefthanded junkball pitchers), then I could see it being somewhat dumb to sign them both. You want to give the opposition different looks. But one is a righthanded hard throwing groundball pitcher and the other is a lefthanded fastball, slider, curveball, flyball pitcher.

The question isn’t who is better. That’s a false argument. The Mets need BOTH.

]]> By: Xavier22 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/12/starting-pitcher-mets-confident-in-one-of-two/#comment-427916 Xavier22 Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:47:48 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/12/starting-pitcher-mets-still-confident-in-one-of-two/#comment-427916 Santana did a great job; Ollie did an adequate job. 5.1 IPs is not great. Santana did a great job; Ollie did an adequate job. 5.1 IPs is not great.

]]> By: hjhjhjhjhj http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/12/starting-pitcher-mets-confident-in-one-of-two/#comment-427880 hjhjhjhjhj Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:16:02 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/12/starting-pitcher-mets-still-confident-in-one-of-two/#comment-427880 no worries....it happens no worries….it happens

]]> By: MudvilleNine http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/12/starting-pitcher-mets-confident-in-one-of-two/#comment-427855 MudvilleNine Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:56:00 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/12/starting-pitcher-mets-still-confident-in-one-of-two/#comment-427855 Dont you realize that in his fourth year he'll only be 39? If the Braves only offer him a guaranteed 4th year at $12 mil per the Mets could go 3 for $14, with a club option 4th of $14 with a buy out of $6 mil. That would match the Bravos 4 for $48 at less years. Then it would be up to Lowe if he wants to go to a contender or just toil away his final years with an also-ran. Dont you realize that in his fourth year he’ll only be 39? If the Braves only offer him a guaranteed 4th year at $12 mil per the Mets could go 3 for $14, with a club option 4th of $14 with a buy out of $6 mil. That would match the Bravos 4 for $48 at less years. Then it would be up to Lowe if he wants to go to a contender or just toil away his final years with an also-ran.

]]> By: MudvilleNine http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/12/starting-pitcher-mets-confident-in-one-of-two/#comment-427800 MudvilleNine Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:17:15 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/12/starting-pitcher-mets-still-confident-in-one-of-two/#comment-427800 I think we'd have better results if we used a video from the Pussycat Dolls. But thats just my opinion. I think we’d have better results if we used a video from the Pussycat Dolls. But thats just my opinion.

]]> By: mark4212 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/12/starting-pitcher-mets-confident-in-one-of-two/#comment-427785 mark4212 Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:03:09 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/12/starting-pitcher-mets-still-confident-in-one-of-two/#comment-427785 I was going to say with all this talk about the braves. they now have a rotation of the following in place: 1. J. Jurrjens 2. J. Vazquez 3. Kenshin Kawakami 4. J. Campillo 5. C. Morton 6. J. Reyes They are also paying for Tim Hudson this season as well as he comes off Tommy John Surgury. I was going to say with all this talk about the braves. they now have a rotation of the following in place:

1. J. Jurrjens
2. J. Vazquez
3. Kenshin Kawakami
4. J. Campillo
5. C. Morton
6. J. Reyes

They are also paying for Tim Hudson this season as well as he comes off Tommy John Surgury.

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