Comments on: Starting Pitcher: The Cost of Oliver Perez http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/14/starting-pitcher-the-cost-of-oliver-perez/ MetsBlog.com features the latest Mets rumors, player movement, and news circulating around the Internet, as well as Mets related insights and opinions by Matthew Cerrone and his team of guest bloggers. Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:48:15 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: ralphkinermetfan http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/14/starting-pitcher-the-cost-of-oliver-perez/#comment-432321 ralphkinermetfan Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:56:47 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/14/starting-pitcher-the-cost-of-oliver-perez/#comment-432321 I don't think Omar is that stupid. But 48 over 4 for Perez is absurd. The idea is to improve the team, and when you consider Wagner/K-Rod cancel each other out, the improvement so far is Putz and deleting Heilman and Schoenweis. So, my guess is Omar has something going on under the radar. And why people have not mentioned Ben Sheets and the Mets in the press is beyond me. The guy is a No. 1 starter, who pitched 198 innings last season. He always gets hurt but the price for him would be so much lower than for Perez that you could sign Freddy Garcia or Garland or both for depth. And as for draft picks, you lose a no. 1 if you sign Sheets but you get a no. 1 if you lose Ollie. So if Stl., Milw., LA, or, and it wouldn't shock me at all, the Yankees, want to spend all of that on Ollie, let them go ahead, so long as Omar brings in quality. Look at the Philly roster. Then look at ours. We don't look too good. I don’t think Omar is that stupid. But 48 over 4 for Perez is absurd. The idea is to improve the team, and when you consider Wagner/K-Rod cancel each other out, the improvement so far is Putz and deleting Heilman and Schoenweis. So, my guess is Omar has something going on under the radar. And why people have not mentioned Ben Sheets and the Mets in the press is beyond me. The guy is a No. 1 starter, who pitched 198 innings last season. He always gets hurt but the price for him would be so much lower than for Perez that you could sign Freddy Garcia or Garland or both for depth. And as for draft picks, you lose a no. 1 if you sign Sheets but you get a no. 1 if you lose Ollie. So if Stl., Milw., LA, or, and it wouldn’t shock me at all, the Yankees, want to spend all of that on Ollie, let them go ahead, so long as Omar brings in quality. Look at the Philly roster. Then look at ours. We don’t look too good.

]]> By: just-mlb http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/14/starting-pitcher-the-cost-of-oliver-perez/#comment-431262 just-mlb Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:43:50 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/14/starting-pitcher-the-cost-of-oliver-perez/#comment-431262 The more I think about it, the more I see how the Mets are gonna play out the Delgado contract and get picks for him and let Murph or Evans play 1B next year. Personally, an infield of Wright, Reyes, Murphy, and Evans isn't too shabby if Evans can learn to hit better...he already is a decent defensive 1B F-mart - Beltran - (insert LF ) The more I think about it, the more I see how the Mets are gonna play out the Delgado contract and get picks for him and let Murph or Evans play 1B next year.

Personally, an infield of Wright, Reyes, Murphy, and Evans isn’t too shabby if Evans can learn to hit better…he already is a decent defensive 1B

F-mart – Beltran – (insert LF )

]]> By: just-mlb http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/14/starting-pitcher-the-cost-of-oliver-perez/#comment-431209 just-mlb Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:02:34 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/14/starting-pitcher-the-cost-of-oliver-perez/#comment-431209 Sorry that was 1992 Sorry that was 1992

]]> By: Steve from Norfolk http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/14/starting-pitcher-the-cost-of-oliver-perez/#comment-430652 Steve from Norfolk Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:42:20 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/14/starting-pitcher-the-cost-of-oliver-perez/#comment-430652 We need to open negotiations with Sheets NOW! It would be downright stupid to try to lowball Boras without a backup position that's set up and ready to go.Submit a deal to Sheets' agent and I'll bet Ollie's price drops quite a bit. We may find ourselves able to get both of them at a decent price. You may even find Ollie getting the smaller paycheck. We need to open negotiations with Sheets NOW! It would be downright stupid to try to lowball Boras without a backup position that’s set up and ready to go.Submit a deal to Sheets’ agent and I’ll bet Ollie’s price drops quite a bit. We may find ourselves able to get both of them at a decent price. You may even find Ollie getting the smaller paycheck.

]]> By: realmet http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/14/starting-pitcher-the-cost-of-oliver-perez/#comment-430595 realmet Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:20:10 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/14/starting-pitcher-the-cost-of-oliver-perez/#comment-430595 Ollie is worth 3 years for $30 and no more. We're insane to give him a 4 year $48 mil deal when we can sign Manny instead. Manny would make such a huge difference in our team. Way more than Ollie would. We can get another similar starter for way less years and dollars. Ollie is worth 3 years for $30 and no more. We’re insane to give him a 4 year $48 mil deal when we can sign Manny instead. Manny would make such a huge difference in our team. Way more than Ollie would. We can get another similar starter for way less years and dollars.

]]> By: dieselpi http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/14/starting-pitcher-the-cost-of-oliver-perez/#comment-430573 dieselpi Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:09:01 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/14/starting-pitcher-the-cost-of-oliver-perez/#comment-430573 if they dont get perez wrapped up things will get ugly if they dont get perez wrapped up things will get ugly

]]> By: Peter http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/14/starting-pitcher-the-cost-of-oliver-perez/#comment-430570 Peter Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:06:48 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/14/starting-pitcher-the-cost-of-oliver-perez/#comment-430570 Sheets & Garland > OP & Redding Sheets & Garland > OP & Redding

]]> By: Kalihan42 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/14/starting-pitcher-the-cost-of-oliver-perez/#comment-430569 Kalihan42 Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:06:18 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/14/starting-pitcher-the-cost-of-oliver-perez/#comment-430569 Well I am begining to think we were used by Boras to get Lowe the con tract he wanted from Atlanta all along. After all he has family in Florida soother than Rays or marlins who had no interest that is the closest he could get. I think we are going to have to Pony up for Perez and at this point the mets should pay up to 15 a year for 4 years....even if we have to be creative and pay more money later in the contract. We should also start to open negotiations with Sheets just to cover our base. Cora is a good move for stability on the bench...then maybe just one mderate right handed bat... Come on Minaya, get er' done. Well I am begining to think we were used by Boras to get Lowe the con tract he wanted from Atlanta all along. After all he has family in Florida soother than Rays or marlins who had no interest that is the closest he could get.

I think we are going to have to Pony up for Perez and at this point the mets should pay up to 15 a year for 4 years….even if we have to be creative and pay more money later in the contract.

We should also start to open negotiations with Sheets just to cover our base.

Cora is a good move for stability on the bench…then maybe just one mderate right handed bat…

Come on Minaya, get er’ done.

]]> By: RodKanehl http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/14/starting-pitcher-the-cost-of-oliver-perez/#comment-430568 RodKanehl Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:06:04 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/14/starting-pitcher-the-cost-of-oliver-perez/#comment-430568 You need to be banned. Who made you DICTATOR? You need to be banned. Who made you DICTATOR?

]]> By: mike1286 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/14/starting-pitcher-the-cost-of-oliver-perez/#comment-430559 mike1286 Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:59:12 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/14/starting-pitcher-the-cost-of-oliver-perez/#comment-430559 i just looked at the results of the poll....anyone who voted to give oliver perez more than 15 million per year (35 of you) should be immediately banned from posting on this site. Just so everyone knows and im sure most people agree with me, Lowe has been the better pitcher hands down, you DO NOT base your contract offer to perez or any other inconsistent pitcher based on you thinking he will one day "click" and live up to his talents. It doesnt work that way. You base his salary on what he has done in the past, not what you THINK he will do in the future. Thank You i just looked at the results of the poll….anyone who voted to give oliver perez more than 15 million per year (35 of you) should be immediately banned from posting on this site. Just so everyone knows and im sure most people agree with me, Lowe has been the better pitcher hands down, you DO NOT base your contract offer to perez or any other inconsistent pitcher based on you thinking he will one day “click” and live up to his talents. It doesnt work that way. You base his salary on what he has done in the past, not what you THINK he will do in the future. Thank You

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