Comments on: Opinion: The Basket Solution http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/15/opinion-the-basket-solution/ MetsBlog.com features the latest Mets rumors, player movement, and news circulating around the Internet, as well as Mets related insights and opinions by Matthew Cerrone and his team of guest bloggers. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:10:45 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: ineedhelp http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/15/opinion-the-basket-solution/#comment-432874 ineedhelp Fri, 16 Jan 2009 03:30:05 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/15/opinion-the-basket-solution/#comment-432874 The llama (Lama glama) is a South American camelid, widely used as a pack animal by the Incas[1] and other natives of the Andes mountains. In South America llamas are still used as beasts of burden, as well as for the production of fiber and meat The llama (Lama glama) is a South American camelid, widely used as a pack animal by the Incas[1] and other natives of the Andes mountains. In South America llamas are still used as beasts of burden, as well as for the production of fiber and meat

]]> By: reillys5 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/15/opinion-the-basket-solution/#comment-432873 reillys5 Fri, 16 Jan 2009 03:29:02 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/15/opinion-the-basket-solution/#comment-432873 i dont see the difference in signing sheets and when he gets hurt, slotting in a garland/redding/neise to fill in from brian lawrence filling in for el duque in previous years? sheets 1/12 (club option + incentives) garland 2/16 ty wiggington 2/15 thats only 27.5 million added to the payroll i dont see the difference in signing sheets and when he gets hurt, slotting in a garland/redding/neise to fill in from brian lawrence filling in for el duque in previous years?

sheets 1/12 (club option + incentives)
garland 2/16

ty wiggington 2/15

thats only 27.5 million added to the payroll

]]> By: arul211 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/15/opinion-the-basket-solution/#comment-432871 arul211 Fri, 16 Jan 2009 03:23:31 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/15/opinion-the-basket-solution/#comment-432871 First off, all these injury concerns with the Mets pitchers, I really doubt there will be any lingering effects with Johan. I'm no doctor, but this guy pitched the best game i have ever seen in person (second to last game vs. the marlins) on that knee. I don't think his new and improved knee will make him pitch worse. And it's not like Johnny Maine snapped his elbow ligament. He was still able to pitch with his injury, Jerry and Omar and co. just thought it was smarter not to risk the career of one of their young, up and coming stars. And with Pelfrey, jesus christ, the kid is 25 years old and he's a 6 foot 7 monster. If he can't pitch 190 innings when healthy, then we drafted the wrong guy. Now onto improving the rotation... You gotta go Perez and Sheets on this one. Sadly, you know what your gonna get from Perez. Probably no better than what he's given us the last two years. We're gonna overpay for him but what are you gonna do? (i'd much rather have overpaid for lowe, but thats a whole different argument). If Sheets stays healthy, we have the best rotation in the NL and we'll all be kissing Omars feet... If Sheets goes down, well then we got the same rotation as last year, which is certainly capable with a solid bullpen. The risk is definitely worth it. First off, all these injury concerns with the Mets pitchers, I really doubt there will be any lingering effects with Johan. I’m no doctor, but this guy pitched the best game i have ever seen in person (second to last game vs. the marlins) on that knee. I don’t think his new and improved knee will make him pitch worse. And it’s not like Johnny Maine snapped his elbow ligament. He was still able to pitch with his injury, Jerry and Omar and co. just thought it was smarter not to risk the career of one of their young, up and coming stars. And with Pelfrey, jesus christ, the kid is 25 years old and he’s a 6 foot 7 monster. If he can’t pitch 190 innings when healthy, then we drafted the wrong guy.

Now onto improving the rotation… You gotta go Perez and Sheets on this one. Sadly, you know what your gonna get from Perez. Probably no better than what he’s given us the last two years. We’re gonna overpay for him but what are you gonna do? (i’d much rather have overpaid for lowe, but thats a whole different argument). If Sheets stays healthy, we have the best rotation in the NL and we’ll all be kissing Omars feet… If Sheets goes down, well then we got the same rotation as last year, which is certainly capable with a solid bullpen. The risk is definitely worth it.

]]> By: metsnfinsfan http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/15/opinion-the-basket-solution/#comment-432324 metsnfinsfan Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:59:27 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/15/opinion-the-basket-solution/#comment-432324 i mean signing sheets would make it semi-okay i suppose i mean signing sheets would make it semi-okay i suppose

]]> By: metsnfinsfan http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/15/opinion-the-basket-solution/#comment-432322 metsnfinsfan Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:58:44 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/15/opinion-the-basket-solution/#comment-432322 awful idea. awful i would rather have lowe and none of the others and let niese and parnell fight out the 5th spot. not getting lowe was a crucial mistake. not getting perez either is even worse awful idea. awful

i would rather have lowe and none of the others and let niese and parnell fight out the 5th spot. not getting lowe was a crucial mistake. not getting perez either is even worse

]]> By: LeiterMilnerFasterStronger http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/15/opinion-the-basket-solution/#comment-432280 LeiterMilnerFasterStronger Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:12:31 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/15/opinion-the-basket-solution/#comment-432280 Dude turned down arbitration-- w/ a likely 13-14 million dollar, 1 yr payday-- so he's not going to take a one-year deal for markedly less than that; we'll either need to pony up more cash, or (more likely) at least one more guaranteed year, with some easily-reached vesting options. (His options may not be Burnett-y, but he's been in talks with both Houston and Texas.) Dude turned down arbitration– w/ a likely 13-14 million dollar, 1 yr payday– so he’s not going to take a one-year deal for markedly less than that; we’ll either need to pony up more cash, or (more likely) at least one more guaranteed year, with some easily-reached vesting options. (His options may not be Burnett-y, but he’s been in talks with both Houston and Texas.)

]]> By: LeiterMilnerFasterStronger http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/15/opinion-the-basket-solution/#comment-432273 LeiterMilnerFasterStronger Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:09:50 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/15/opinion-the-basket-solution/#comment-432273 Yes, they did. Yes, they did.

]]> By: VCarver http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/15/opinion-the-basket-solution/#comment-432270 VCarver Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:09:37 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/15/opinion-the-basket-solution/#comment-432270 darth, as I said to alex, it's a vicious cycle when the pen blows so bad ... and the effects are cumulative. I've listened to many players -- not just mets players -- say how devastating it is to have your pen blow leads late in games. There is no way I'll believe there is a serious problem with this offensive group until I see them blow a division lead with a good pen. We'll just have to agree to disagree. darth, as I said to alex, it’s a vicious cycle when the pen blows so bad … and the effects are cumulative.

I’ve listened to many players — not just mets players — say how devastating it is to have your pen blow leads late in games.

There is no way I’ll believe there is a serious problem with this offensive group until I see them blow a division lead with a good pen.

We’ll just have to agree to disagree.

]]> By: fxcarden http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/15/opinion-the-basket-solution/#comment-432104 fxcarden Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:14:37 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/15/opinion-the-basket-solution/#comment-432104 ...just one more..... Maine is 33-27 with a 4.18 ERA lifetime....he is a good pitcher with potential, but he isn't exactly proven.......neither is Perez who probably has more upside if he can ever get his head right......by getting proven guys like Sheets / Garland etc.....even if we don't get 30 starts out of them.........the Mets can only increase their chances.....this is a team built to win now.....not 3 years from now..... I can't take another 3 years of this......Maine can be the stud 3 years from now...... …just one more…..

Maine is 33-27 with a 4.18 ERA lifetime….he is a good pitcher with potential, but he isn’t exactly proven…….neither is Perez who probably has more upside if he can ever get his head right……by getting proven guys like Sheets / Garland etc…..even if we don’t get 30 starts out of them………the Mets can only increase their chances…..this is a team built to win now…..not 3 years from now….. I can’t take another 3 years of this……Maine can be the stud 3 years from now……

]]> By: Darth Manuel http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/15/opinion-the-basket-solution/#comment-432089 Darth Manuel Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:09:42 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/01/15/opinion-the-basket-solution/#comment-432089 I've got to commend you for your persistence on this issue. Cheers mate. The team mentality was off from the start. Down the stretch when everything was on the line, the starting pitching lost its confidence, the offense and the bullpen. It didn't not matter what happened three weeks ago. The Marlins series was a playoff series. Everything was square. All we had to do was win 2 of 3 and we were in a playoff. The bullpen did not blow that series. It was the offense! I’ve got to commend you for your persistence on this issue. Cheers mate.

The team mentality was off from the start. Down the stretch when everything was on the line, the starting pitching lost its confidence, the offense and the bullpen.

It didn’t not matter what happened three weeks ago. The Marlins series was a playoff series. Everything was square. All we had to do was win 2 of 3 and we were in a playoff. The bullpen did not blow that series. It was the offense!

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