The Mets have signed OF Bobby Kielty, RHP Tony Armas Jr., RHP Matt DeSalvo, and LHP Valerio de los Santos to minor league contracts, reports the Associated Press.
Kielty, 32, hit .233 in 49 minor-league games last season, after getting just 33 at bats with the A’s and Red Sox in 2007.
Armas pitched in three games for the Mets last season, during which he allowed seven runs on 11 hits in eight innings.
The 28–year-old DeSalvo is 1–3 with a 7.89 ERA in nine career appearances with the Yankees and Braves.
Santos, 36, has pitched for five teams during nine seasons over the last 11 years – he has struck out 207 batters in 256 innings and he has 18 letters in his name.
Woopdy Doo! Lets waste some more $$
BUFFALO BISONS!
Yay just a little bit closer to that “budget.” Its only a matter of time before we start hearing how Perez is demanding too much, and we cant afford a “front line” starter like OP.
You do realize that the ‘budget’ is driven by the luxury tax threshold, and that minor leaguers don’t count against it, right?
Also, wrong ex-Red Sox outfielder, Omar.
We still need players in the Minors, people. It’s not like they’ll play for free. I’m sure that money is coming from another bucket. Geeeez…relax….
More like The Bucket List.
Anti-Semite!!!!!!!!!!!
just a play off Schindler’s List…..j/k all
i’m so happy we got this done. this is a much better move than trying to getr manny or sheets
you guys are aware that there other people working on talent for the mets outside of omar. I doubt very highly that omar has spent any more than 3 minutes on these 3 people signing.
Omar isn’t doing such a bad job adding depth, maybe he is worried about the Murphy/Tatis platoon.
Umm if he’s worried about the murphy/tatis platoon he should sign Adam Dunn or Abreu. Not sign career AAAA’s.
Precisely.
hit the nail on the head, if he wants a sure thing in the OF i can think of a couple of names.
Oh come on, don’t be silly. We don’t need those guys, they play bad defense, they’re losers, and they obviously hate baseball.
The combination of Murphy and Tatis will blast over 40 HRs, guaranteed!
Who said Omar is worried? I think a poster on a message board insinuates that Omar is worried. They’re two very different things. Wow, I can’t wait for this offseason to be over. It has been the worst ever when it comes to whiners. I live within range to see the Bisons play the Yankees and Phillies Triple-A teams. I hope the Bisons have enough guys to field a team!
Stop whining about the Bisons.
WoW call the Mayor tell him to get ready for a parade
I know this is Mets “news,” but do we really have to read about these moves? Simply reading their names is so depressing.
is’nt Kielty yet ANOTHER lefty? what a waste
Actuall, Kielty is a switch hitter who mashes lefthanded pitchers pretty well: .296 .379 .503
Kielty should have as good a shot to make the bench as Sullivan, Reed or Pagan.
What a waste? This guy is going to the bullpen where we need a lefty.
The New York Metropolitan’s are a GREAT organization!
Hey, does anyone know what Mark Mulder’s current health status is? I note that he’s a free agent, but recall that he had some shoulder issues last year. Is he slated to play this year at all?
switch hitter
WTF! Why did they need to sign Carrot Top?
Scotty – We were right there together on that one!
Thanks for listening to the fans, Omar! We ask for Manny and he signs Carrot Top.
Remember last offseason? When we were all hoping and wishing that the cards would fall right and we would end up with Johan Santana? and then as time went on we all got a little more positive that it could happen. and we kept our heads high that our prospects were good enough to get the job done, and that Ian Kennedy wasnt the next greg maddux and he and Melky wouldnt bring Santana to the Bronx.
Remember how excited we were for the new season to start, so we could prove 07 wasnt a fluke. And how having someone who can pitch deep into games would give our lights out bullpen the proper rest it would need to once again shut the game down after the 6th inning?
Well Wilpon, those optimistic feelings are long gone. The comment section these days are all screaming for Manny, and everyone recognizes that we are not contenders unless something else is done.
So you’re saying we aren’t contenders without Manny?
I think that, if re-signing Perez is the only major-league move left, we’ll fall out of the race sometime in late August/early September. The same team can only get worse, as witnessed by how lucky we were to even be in the position we were in last year.
if the Mets want to keep adding minor leaguers isn’t Mark Mulder still available???
at least he has some upside…
Tabernacle!
which one is the guy in the pic??
and these moves dont matter at all…we need to fill the spots up and none of these guys will play in the mlb….unless one of them proves they can actually play
Damn — guess this means the rally didn’t work.
Everyone wanted a right handed hitting outfielder. Kielty smacks left handed pitchers around pretty good:
.296 .379 .503
I don’t know about anybody else but after tonight can we only hear about Manny when he signs and I know that won’t be with the Mets
I don’t know why so many people here expect the Mets to go to camp with 25 players and an empty clubhouse in Buffalo.
I agree. The Bisons need players, it would be unfair for the Mets to screw their own AAA team and themselves by signing no one to play.
Relax guys, these are non moves, only a few of these guys will be seen anyways.
I think what I love most about this site is that people actually think that by constantly carping for Manny, and even staging Manny rallies, they are actually changing the Mets never-changing position of not being interested in Manny.
If Omar listened to fan opinions, we’d be lucky to compete with the Nationals. Oh, and tickets would probably $150 each to try to pay for it
Right, no one can argue with all the World Series visits the Mets have made with Omar at the helm. He is above reproach.
I actually like these moves. It is important to have veterans ready to play in the minor leagues.
By the way, did anyone see that Juan Uribe was signed to a minor league deal that can net him up to 1 million?
Alex Cora better be worth every penny of the 2 million that Omar game him. Uribe can play all over the infield and has legitimate righty power in his bat. A righty power stick? Sounds like something we can use.
I am still in favor of bringing in Kevin Millar. I’d prefer Wiggington, but Millar hit 20+ homers last year and drove in over 70 runs. He can probably be had for less than a million and he is a gem in the clubhouse.
On any given day he can replace Delgado and be stuck into the middle of the order for a game.
Ladies and gentleman your 2009 New Yortreal Metspos!!
i’m sorry, was there an attempt to be funny there??
Apparently the Expos were the last team to field minor league affiliates.
A little levity fellas. And it was a shot at all the Expo re-treads we keep getting. I sincerely apologize. All business from now on….
Jeez, it’s like they’re trying to corner the market on mediocrity!
Maybe Omar is loading up to make a 14 for 1 deal for a middle reliever.
Maybe these are just bodies for Spring Training with chances to play at Buffalo…?
I read somewhere that Adam Dunn and Ben Sheets were not accepting Spring Training invites or minor league contracts.
LEGRAND ORANGE II
LOL….as a Rusty fan, I resent that!
i’m hoping Ollie signs elsewhere. Not only would we get a 1st rounder but it might force Omar to sign Manny or Sheets…
Not necessarily. If a bottom 15 team signs him, no first rounder. Maybe a second rounder.
And if they sign sheets, then they lose a 2nd round pick.
dont we get a sandwich pick like we did with Wright??
I post once every so often when I feel strongly about certain things or I have a decent opinion.. here is my take on the minor signings…. (Sullivan,Kielty,Mackowiack,etc) I believe it makes us one signing away from truly knowing if any one other than a SP is going to be signed…we have certainly sured up the bench w/ a combo of any :
Catro,Kielty,Marlon,Cora,Tatis&orMurphy,Reed,Sullivan,Mackowiak etc……
Our lineup is set..Our bullpen looks better on paper …if we sign OP or Sheets I expect Omar to say we r ready to go to war with what we have or honestly say if hes keeping his ear to the market for 1 year deals with a slugger or another SP….either way I pray no matter which SP we sign it happens soon..ill be pleased to a degree no matter which guy we sign…I really want to know what the next possible step is after we do sign whichever SP.
Let’s put our hands together and give a rousing round of applause to our 2009 Flushing Expos.
Lame, unoriginal, already posted, already thrashed, and again, lame.
Oops, sorry didn’t see Slim beat me to it. There making me so sick I can’t read anymore.
Somebody else got it!
Omar’s da man. Ya know what I’m sayin’.
GM.Of.The.Year. Forget about where the Mets finish.
LOSER WIMPS:
The Mets will never, EVER, EVER, be able to win the NL East without Manny. He is the single entity that will push us towards greatness. Forget the bullpen, or the rotation, you fools know that we have to ride on Manny’s perfectly curled dreadlocks to the promised land.
Without him, we are weak and frail.
The Marlins are far superior to us. Their offense simply will overwhelm our pitching, and their young staff is comparable to the greats of all time.
The Braves are as well. They have a completely dominant and reliable staff with super aces Derek Lowe, Jair Jurrjens, and of course, Javier Vasquez. Their bullpen is completely healthy and can always be trusted on. The offense which includes the always healthy Chipper Jones and the superstar Jeff Francouer will obliterate us,
And then of course, comes the Phillies. Divine perfection. They have absolutely no blemishes or flaws. Brad Lidge is a god among closers, and he will obviously go perfect in saves again. Madson, just right behind him in awesomeness. Their pen will get better without JC Romero, for they are the Phillies and they breathe perfection. Their rotation is full of demi-gods who will absolutely conquer all pitching. Hamels is the greatest pitcher ever, Blanton’s girth only gives him more strength, Myers is a human flamethrower, and Moyer is like fine wine, only getting better with age. Their offense… is comparable to the 4 Horsemen. It has no flaws, no holes, no weaknesses. They solidified this by replacing incumbent loser Burrell, with the demi-god Ibanez.
As you can all finally see, THERE IS NO HOPE WITHOUT MANNY.
Wilpons, Manny is our guiding light and you cast him away!
YOU BETRAYED US!!!! BETRAYED………
At first I thought that was going to be the most ridiculous post ever, but it got more and more awesome as I read it.
lol you said “girth”.
yeah, before I caught on to the sarcasm, I was like, huh???
LOL, I too thought for a second you were serious and was all ready to reply.
The scary thing is this is what some of the mannyacs(c) really think. (Or at least they say it.)
VC, I think some of the Nattering Nabobs of Negativity who predict a 3rd place finish for us on here probably think Sylar was UNDERestimating how great the Marlins and Phils are!
Sylar, I am really glad you post on here. I pretty much always agree with you.
I’ve tried to communicate essentially this same idea in past threads in a straightforward, serious manner, but I was just banging my head against a wall, and anyway it is WAY FARGING BETTER when expressed this way.
I hereby nominate this for post of the offseason. Kudos, Sylar, well done.
Just spent 2 hours going through the past couple of posts. I, for one, am sick to death of ‘get Manny’. I’m willing to bet the majority posting get Manny with absolutely no logic other than ‘cheap’, ‘who cares how much he costs’, ‘trade half the team if you have to’ blah blah blah ….are mostly under the age of 25.
For those of us who have seen the beloved clowns of the 60s, the god awful teams of the late 70s/early 80, and the worst team money can buy of the nineties, know that no one player guarantees anything.
+1 to Sylar.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
here is my take on the team for 09…
a-s-suming we sign ollie
Our lineup
i think the offense will produce very nicely…id like to see another aquisition…manny would be nice but i really am starting to believe its not gunna happen..i like nady and he would only cost a prospect or two…i think castillo will be much better than ppl think, delgado will have a decent year and reyes and wright will have tremendous years.
the rotation
I love the rotation and think it is 10 times better than last year..johan is johan…pelf is gunna be solid…i dont think hes gunna become bad, im just a little worried about injury which i also think will be fine…maine i am not sure about but i know that he has great stuff when hes not injured…the improved pen should help him too…i really like the depth we have this year, the 5 spot will be garcia, redding, niese or pedro(i think we will sign him) If Garcia can return to his old self then he will be pitching like a #2
the bullpen
we have two amazing closers….i dont know how many times i thought i was guna have a heart attack in the 8th and 9th innings last year but it was waaayyyyy too much…the # of blown saves was rediculous and our two new guys should bbe fantastic…i think one more arm is needed but other wise it should be good
in conclusion………….We do not NEED manny to win..yes he would be a great luxury, but we can defenitely win without him….We had the 2nd most runs in the nl last year, 29 blown saves and only missed the playoffs by a game
Another level headed Met fan. I agree 100%
Aaaaah, Kielty — this year’s reclaim project. Like Tatis.
“THE HAPPY SECOND PLACE FINISHERS”
-We play meaningful games in September!-
Starring Fred “Big Papi” Wilpon,Jeff “Sonny Boy”Wilpon–and Omar”the teflon Don”Minaya.
SIGN MANNY!!!
Agreed.
Manny is a GOD who deserves all the crown jewels of the Wilpon fortune.
Okay,okay.ok, Omar we give. Stop trying to
prove us wrong with ” Los Mets”,Reed,Suillvan,Mackowiak.We got it
.We got it.No mas con los gringos who can’t
play.Now you’re signin’ Ginger Kids?!?
What the freak!—Sign Manny!!!—
Over under on combined HRS from Tatis/Murphy is 20. Over or Under?
I’ll say right at.
I’ll agree with Gina, while adding:
Murphy 400 PA 8 HR
Tatis 200 PA 12 HR
and I’ll hope that I’m wrong and underestimating Murphy’s development.
Here is what fangraphs projects for both based on the various projection formulas available on their site.
Bill James: Murphy 14, Tatis 10
Chone: Murphy 10, Tatis 15
Marcel: Murphy 6, Tatis 11
Oliver: Murphy 15, Tatis 16
They also look to be projecting like 850 some at bats between them. I don’t think thats going to happen.
Perhaps they’re factoring in another Ryan Church concussion? Sorry, that’s in poor taste.
You’re right, it’s virtually impossible for them to get that many at bats. I guess I’ll just have to stand by my original completely random unscientific guesses.
That’s actually a possibility, pecota projected Church to miss basically as many games as he did last season, obviously they probably weren’t expecting a concussion but he’s been injury prone his whole career.
And I just looked only one projection system, bill james who is always incredibly optimistic, expects Church to get more than 400 at bats. It might be a mix of injuries and the fact he struggles against lefties. Maybe they’re expecting Tatis to get some of those starts.
that would be awesome if that manny rally helped
So do you realize that he’s building his AAA team with a bunch of cast-off scrubs?
Seriously, are there going to be any prospects in AAA this season?
According to metsminorleagueblog Fernando Martinez will be starting the season in Buffalo.
1 out of 25, whoooopie.
It’s been my (perhaps incorrect) impression that for the most part, the prospects are in AA and the non-prospects/major league retreads are in AAA. If this impression is correct, I sincerely hope it changes because another level of development for prospects seems reasonable and fans in AAA cities would have more reasons to buy tickets.
It’s true to an extent but most teams don’t have nearly the number of retreads we have in AAA. And they definitely don’t have as many old players as we do in AAA. Guys like Awful Reyes and Anderson Hernandez, and some guys like Nelson Cruz and 24-27 year old fringe prospects/AAAA players are pretty common on AAA teams, not so much the 30 year olds we’re putting out there. And usually teams don’t have to go out and sign a bunch of guys like that.
Basically these signings definitely speak to the terrible depth of our farm system.
I know a lot less about other organization’s minor leagues than the little I know about the Mets minor leagues, so I appreciate the insight Gina.
If it were up to me I would far prefer a AAA team with a few carefully selected prospects, and a lot of mid-20′s aged minor league free agents, instead of the early/mid-30′s aged guys on their way ‘back down,’ although I think a handpicked one or two of those guys that have the proper temperment to perhaps become coaches/managers later on is a good thing, especially at catcher to help the upcoming pitchers.
lets all hope and pray that manny lowers his price….OHHHHH MAN!!!…UTLEY WAS ON HOT STOVE TONIGHT?!?!?!>….YUCK
maybe omar talked to pedro about manny..lol
boooo hooooo yankees…asking for a book protection clause…haha..and it doesnt bother them…hahaha
Just saw that–is that hilarious or what?
What, do they think they are the CIA or something??
lol….seriously…and they are professional athletes?…give me a break…stop crying over a book and play…or just come out and say yeah im upset by the book…they will be made fun of…but at least they would admit it…lol
I just can’t believe some post that I read here, guys we had a problem last year, the BP, if they had blow only half of the games, we could had won by a least 10 games, I think they blew 7 games for santana, that cost him the Cy Young right there plus the playoff , Manny will be terrific is signed for two years, but we don’t need him, we do need Sheets/OP and Marti /Gomez will be a plus. Stop the rally, he ain’t coming to town.
Totally agreed and thank you.
sign manNY
You know, when you type it that way, and the New York stands out like that, suddenly signing manNY makes perfect sense!
Those fools in Cleveland, Boston and Los Angeles thought they had manCL, manBO or manLA, but we’re getting manNY!
Wahooooooooooo KEilty
Man, you beat me to that one.
Dude looks like the bad guy from the Incredibles with that hair……..run it Kielty, run it
Let’s see Manny and the rest of the agents still out there come down to reality and drop their asking price. They’re acting like players are getting top money.
Manny, even at 2/48 is too much.
Let’s see Ollie, Pedro and Manny take a pay cut that the Mets can afford. Maybe they’ll add some incentives to make it lucrative.
Omar — It’s “low risk, high reward,” not “low risk , no reward.”
If you want to take a chance, sign a Smoltz or a Penny, not genuine authentic scrubs.
Or Sheets or Dunn who are still sitting on the market.
I’m kind of split on this but I think I’d rather take a chance on Sheets than Dunn. Sheets might turn out to be the bargain of the year. Chances are we’ll be seeing him on the DL though….
What bothers me about not getting another bat is I think that leaves our bench weak. Tatis on the bench looks a lot better though.
I’d take a chance at both. At this point it looks like they’ll both be signing for pretty cheap deals.
hahahah – great tag name. I will never forget that Seaver trade….
That trade and the Nolan Ryan trade (for Jim Fregosi) still get me ill. And then there was, of course, the Zambrano – Kazmir trade. That one’s up there too.
A-M-A-Z-N-G
14 days till pitchers & catchers
A-M-A-Z-N-G
Bobby Abreu, RF, Adam Dunn, LF, Juan Cruz, RP, Orlando Hudson, 2B, Manny Ramirez, LF, Ben Sheets, SP
Are all still available
A-M-A-Z-N-G
Since the signing of Krod & trade for Putz here is what we have done so for to strengthen the franchise
RHP Rocky Cherry – Rule 5 pickup
RHP Darren O’Day – Rule 5 pickup
RHP Connor Robertson – Acquired via Trade
RHP Tim Redding – Free Agent signing
RHP Freddy Garcia – Minor League signing
RHP Tony Armas Jr. – Minor League signing
RHP Matt DeSalvo – Minor League signing
RHP Dillon Gee – Invited to Spring Traing
RHP Esmailin Caridad – Invited to Spring Traing
LHP Tom Martin – Minor League signing
LHP Casey Fossum – Minor League signing
LHP Valerio de los Santos – Minor League signing
LHP Michael Antonini – Invited to Spring Traing
INF Alex Cora – Free Agent signing
2B Argenis Reyes – Minor League signing
1B Michel Abreu – Invited to Spring Traing
SS Jose Coronado – Invited to Spring Traing
C Omir Santos – Minor League signing
C Josh Thole – Invited to Spring Traing
OF Rob Mackowiak – Minor League signing
OF Bobby Kielty – Minor League signing
OF Fernando Martinez – Invited to Spring Traing
A-M-A-Z-N-G
How it feels like Minaya is back with the Montreal Expos.
A-M-A-Z-N-G
How our best hope is to have the rising stars of F-Mart
Murphy
Pelfrey
Niese
Parnell
Holt
peak in 2009 and start the rebirth of the franchise.
A-M-A-Z-N-G
A-M-A-Z-N-G
A-M-A-Z-N-G
LOL HERE’S THE MISSING I
FOR A-M-A-Z-I-N-G
If you add up all the bums the Mets have signed this offseason you probably have enough money to sign Manny.
The minor league guys don’t count because they don’t get paid unless they make the team. This is just a long, drawn out process that seems like it’ll never end.
Something tells me though Omar is not just looking at Oliver Perez and Omar’s not afraid to go in a different direction if a better option is available.
Just take a look at when he offered Ramon Hernandez and Bengie Molina a contract and traded for Lo Duca. We can all hope, right?
Being a Mets fan is all about having some faith and that’s all we can do at this point. I know the collaspes hurt but it’s all about patience.
We are all left here banging our collective heads against a wall waiting for Oliver Perez and some other guys to sign. It’s not just Scott Boras being an agent because other free agents are having trouble landing a job too.
Orlando Hudson is a very solid player for some ballclubs, Abreu is a very good hitter and Dunn’s not bad to gamble on either.
Stevie, why are you so concerned about those guys? We’ve got Carrot Top now! I bet those between-inning breaks at Citi are gonna be hilarious…
Man, if you combine all the ‘small’ salaries Omar is handing out to various forms of injured or over the hill players we could easily afford Hudson and a year of Adam Dunn.
Why does Omar have a job?
Yeah, because who needs minor league rosters anyway?
It is amazing how some people just do not get it.
I really didn’t want Manny after the end of last season. It was a fresh start in my opinion. A whole off season to rework the team into something better then the horrible let downs we are growing accustom to. The starting rotation will be the same as last year. The eighth and ninth bullpen will be better. Our soft and young, yet old and careless lineup will not even hold up to last years squad. I’m not going to a single game at Chyti field next year if this line up stays the same. As much as I want to see this ballpark in it’s inaugural season, one that I would have wanted to see with my father… an old Brooklyn fan. This lack of action in the off season makes me think I just can’t spend that much money on a franchise that does not care about winning. Maybe Manny isn’t the answer but Hudson and Dye could of been. Either way I would like to thank the Wilpon family for giving up on a “New Met” team and “New Met” stadium before either actually existed.
Every year there are a host of signings such as these. It fills up minor league spots and provides the necessary bodies for ST. Normally we don’t pay attention to them. But the boredom of this off-season has elevated the interest in these signings.
To see my Mets so close and not succeed for a 4th straight year, patience will not be the word how about punishment? A glutton for punishment to be exact.
Pray for once that good fortune is on our side in 2009 and we get all the breaks if this team remains status quo.
How bout come the end of 2009 it looks something like this:
Fernando Martinez – Rookie of the Year
Johan Santana – CY Young
D. Wright – NL MVP
Brad Holt – Rising Star
Jerry Manuel – Manager of the Year
2009 W.S.
Mets vs Yanks
Game 7 Citi-Fields:
Johan 8 shutout innings
Wright doubles in F-Mart & Reyes
K-Rod strikes out the side in 9th,
Mets Win, Mets Win, Mets Win
[ OK you can wake up now =) ]
I wish man.I wish.
Couldn’t have written it any better myself.
Do you really believe the NL will win the All-Star game?
i didnt know brian scalabrine played baseball too! hahaha
Veal!
that was funny. scal is the man! except he got short hair.
is there a big trade rumor warming up?
How great would it be if they actually sign Manny, he has a ridiculous year, leads the Mets to the world series, hits six homers in the series, Mets win it all and Manny becomes a folk hero in New York, and it was all because the fans wanted him so bad and they rallied and made it happen.
reminds me of this dude named mike piazza… but we just didnt make it.
Go-o-o-o Buffalo!
With Jon Garland going to the Diamondbacks, SI.com’s Jon Heyman says the Dodgers are now the heavy favorites to land Randy Wolf.
Minaya told Newsday in an e-mail yesterday that he has been “just keeping in touch” with Martinez and free-agent lefthander Oliver Perez, but that there is nothing new on either player.
Brewers general manager Doug Melvin has reiterated his skepticism that Milwaukee will manage to bring back free-agent right-hander Ben Sheets, recounting that his agent, Casey Close, was not remotely interested in an incentive-laden one-year deal (such as the ones Brad Penny and John Smoltz ultimately nabbed from the Red Sox) for his client when approached about the possibility several weeks; Melvin and Close have reportedly not spoken since.
Scott Boras, who represents the slugger, said this week that he was negotiating with teams other than the Dodgers on Ramirez’s behalf, but Albert Pujols said at a news conference Thursday in the Dominican Republic, “I speak with Manny every three days and he tells me, ‘Man, no one wants to sign me.’ ” . . .
Didn’t want Wolf anyway….
I cringe at adding Ollie & Pedro
Sheets will not get more than two years as the market dwindles
Most GMs know that Manny will eventually blink and take less money if he wants to play. He should sue Boras for getting him out of Boston. Pujols-ManRam would be sick
Had on the morning show on XM on the way to work. They were discussing (Duquette and some other dude) about the slow market.
Pretty much said that pitchers are waiting for Ollie to sign, and hitters for Manny. Had a bunch of scenerios.
Think it was Dunn wants to go to LA, so he needs Manny to S*** or get off the LA pot. And Wolf wants NY, so needs Ollie to decide.
Getting pretty silly at this point, especially since (outside of Manny) none of the remaining FAs are actually very good. At minimum, they all have some serious holes or issues.
The XM guy was reading some of the Pujols quotes (like the one noted above). Actually pretty funny.
What would the “fans” do to Omar if he did make an offer for Manny, but did not get him? Say 2/48, take it or leave it, but the dodgers went 3/70 and he signed there?
Would he get any credit for going after him? Or just grief that he didn’t start at 4/100?
stick guy,
after giving it a long hard thought, i think that what’s best for us is trade delagdo to get manny here, the payroll won’t be that high from before, now, if it’s stay the same, say bye bye to manny, he will not be here..
Ah, you have been channelling your inner TRS again Alex!
I understand the logic (budget wise), but honestly, if people think they don’t have enough offense now (hence the need for Manny), I’m really not sure that the upgrade from Delgado to manny (as-summing Murph slides from LF to 1B) is going to add that much.
You are replacing 1 clean up guy with another, and while Manny is a better hitter, the team isn’t likely to score that many more runs.
I would love to trade delgado if they get something good for him, but not just to dump salary.
And if they did get Manny for say 2 years, I would keep him and bump payroll, and go for it all this year.
stick that’s the best idea i can come up, if it wasn’t about the money we would’ve sign manny by now.. look, i’m not just saying trade delgado to dump salary, there’s a lot of good options out there and maybe our GM is exploring that.. now if u ask me who i rather have in my clubhouse u know the answer to that. manny 10 times 10..
Problem with trading Delgado is that its will likely happen in one of two scenarios.
1) team takes Delgado and all his salary, gives back a few cast offs and low end prospects.
2) Mets pick up significant amount of salary and get a quality starter in return (though I cant think of a match [no, not the Angels])
in 1 they still need to sign Perez, in 2 they still have too high a payroll to sign Manny
Also, saw on MLBTR that Rich Hill may get moved soon to the Orioles for the whopping sum of a PTBNL. The mets have pelnty of guys that could serve that function! So IMO this would be a gerat guy to take a flyer on.
Very low investment, and if he gets back to what he was 2in ’06 and ’07, a fantastic deal.
Like I said yesterday, he could be Ollie for 1/4 the price.
i like rich hill too.. but i don’t think the mets will go that way
Once I saw the original article on mlbtraderumors about 2 weeks ago that he was out of options I have been clamoring for the Mets to get him.
He would be a darkhorse candidate for the #5 spot. IF he is healthy he is a stud.
For the cost, a no brainer.
If is up to me i’d sign manny until pujols is ready to be FA.. 2011..
That would
A) Require him to ever reach FA.
B) Require the Mets to sign him
C) Require the Mets to move future HOF and all around good guy Daniel Murphy.
LMAO (C)
you really think that high of murphy or u just being sarcastic??
A + B are also equally absurd.
I think thats the point
TRS hasn’t had the Muprhy Kool-Aid yet…….but mark my words he will of his own volition or not……………….duhn duhn duhn!
LOL
By the way, I would like to point out that Dunn needs to be brought in. BP gave a little sneak preview of their projections and they wrote that Manny would provide us with 2.7 wins while Adam Dunn would more give us about 3.8 wins not factoring in home ball park adjustments.
More win and at a fraction of the cost. I can understand the budget agrument for Manny, but there is no excuse for not signing Dunn except gross negligence.
oh and another thing………
I really liked the Keilty move. I think he fills Tatis’ role rather nicely if Tatis stinks or gets hurt. He is only a good replacement for Tatis if Tatis is the bench bat.
Oh yeah, baby…….Tony Armas, Jr. !!!!!!
When do playoff tickets go on sale ?
GIMME A BREAK
I’m beginning to think the Mets want Fernando Martinez in AA this year.
Sullivan, Keilty, Jesus Feliciano, Jason Cooper, and one or two of Reed, Pagan, and Evans.
5 or 6 AAA OF’s without counting FMart. Its getting a little weird at this point.
so really this is a depth move
Kielty really could make the team if they don’t get another Righty platoon OF bat
Are they going to get another lefty or just go with this De Los Santos, Fossum or Martin?
I don’t mind Armas Jr in AAA aswell. They have a depleted AAA lineup so they may aswell get some veterans for call ups